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Old 03-25-2010, 11:09 PM   #1
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MANIFESTO
(Ferry/Manzanera)

I’m for a life around the corner
That takes you by surprise
That comes leaves all you need
And more besides

I am for a life and time by numbers
Blast in fast 'n' low
Add ’m up, account for luck
You never know

I am into friendship and plain sailing
Through frenzied ports o' call
O shake the hand to beat the band
With love is all

Or nothing to the man who wants tomorrow
There's one in every town
A crazy guy, he'd rather die
Than be tied down

I am for the man who drives the hammer
To rock you 'til the grave
His power drill shocks
A million miles away

I am for the revolution's coming
I don't know where she's been
For those who dare because it's there
I know I've seen

Now and then I've suffered imperfection
I've studied marble flaws
And faces drawn pale and worn
By many tears

I am that I am from out of nowhere
to fight without a cause
Roots strain against the grain
With brute force you'd better

Hold out when you're in doubt
Question what you see
And when you find an answer
Bring it home to me.

(As I have no idea from when on PA1 will switch on 'read only', I take the opportunity to say "So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, goodbye!")
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Old 03-25-2010, 11:33 PM   #2
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Tranco,
i think av1 will be left to run on for another month or so.
Good luck to you anyway, must get a trip to the dam soon, before it floats away
one love
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Old 03-25-2010, 11:41 PM   #3
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Ahhh

Safe travels Troncoso, it will be different, but everything is a little bit different everyday, we just fail to notice it sometimes.

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Old 03-26-2010, 12:53 AM   #4
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Don't hold your breath, they still need to send out 98% of invitations before they will close it...
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:54 AM   #5
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I keep hoping that Avalon will remain pretty much as is...with the exception of some minor changes in posting standards and moderating guidelines. I always take your posts seriously TRANCOSO. I still haven't finished with the remote viewing material. It was too much for me to take in...so I had to stop. I'll start again after I calm down following the Thuban meltdown. I'll miss you. It doesn't sound like you're going to AV2. I'm not going either. This whole thing is stupid. This doesn't have to be happening. Anyway...goodbye...and may whoever be with you!
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Old 03-26-2010, 11:54 AM   #6
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I would also like to say my farewells to all, as this forum is about to be closed in a dozen days for posting at least, and soon after everything will be lost! Because I don't think the fees will be kept up for long to vBulletin® Version 3.8.4, for a static forum, as they are not free or cheap$$$$.So all these posts will be lost most likely for good when its closed down for none payment of fees.All this information then be lost forever sadly!

I've been in a self imposed exile for a while because my critical expose and warning posts regarding some of the fraudsters and phony whistle-blowers Bill & Kerry interviewed, whom they believed,which were not welcome. Especially since I called them naive and gullible!

Even though some of them were exposed a decade before B&K came on the scene! They were given a new lease of lying life!

I tried to warn them in private first to no avail, as did others who had done real investigations on these frauds.

Even after presenting irrefutable evidence that they were frauds and not to promote or get involved with them for their own sake protecting their reputation and neutrality.

FrancieJones: was another who could not understand why Bill & Kerry would promote these frauds even after warning them. I understand that FranceJones got banned because she posted a private email from Bill, yet Bill posted a private email from Cliff High. A little bit of hypocrisy here I think? The pot calling the kettle black.

The only reason for being critical of Bill & kerry was so they did not get stung, it only takes a few fraudsters to break things up, and we only have to look what's happened.

So that's me out of ever being invited to the new forum2! LOL.

Oh before I go I will just remind you all even though my old posts will say much the same I will name the main frauds, so called whistle-blowers NOT.

Why oh why Bill do you believe this repeater of other peoples work, who is a liar and a fraud to boot, and who is NOT an MD aka Medical Doctor as he claims! The one license he did manage to wrangle that gave him the right to administer pharmaceuticals was revoked, and he was struck off years ago, after the death of young man and injuries to others! He was lucky not to have got 20 years minimum.Now a snake oil salesman using conspiracy to sell his wares via his radio show to those he scares to near death if not via pharmaceuticals.

His name? Bill Deagle! Yet he has been befriended by Bill so Bill sees neither his BS , lies or his history. Or the hypocrisy of his morbidly obese body of a man who sells people his health wares and lectures people on their health!
Why because he has cleverly welcomed you into his home and fed you?!!!And given you his BS answers that the powers that be set him up yadda yadda yadda! Yeah and I'm Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann who went to the MOON with my secret gov passport!

One of the reasons Michael St Clair became disillusioned with Bill was because of his reluctance to see through fear monger fraud Bll Deagle.The same for Cliff High sometime later.

I wonder why Richard Sauder of the underground bases had a beef with Bill & Kerry? Who wrote a scathing so called autonomous post at rense.com?


Dan Burisch: Another fraud and liar oh I almost forgot Dan Burisch is now against Project Camelot and he now hates Bill with a vengeance! Don't worry Bill he's nothing more than a lab assistant of one week, whose mentally a fantasist and thinks he's another professor of everything! The ultimate family and wife frauds who believe their own fantasies.

True Ott: Another phony who wont come on the conference scene anymore just in case his lack of credentials and BS is brought up another fear mongering snake oil salesman via radio! He thinks Jane Burgermeister (as did Deagle) stole his bird flu expose! Since he had the conspiracy copyright on it.A none Doctor a Chinese cookie paper diploma.WORTHLESS.

Jordan Maxwell: Aka real name Russell Pine! What can we say this man thinks he's a symbologist of the highest order yet for one elementary example he described the reason with conviction why Vikings had horns on their helmets? Vikings never ever had horns on their helmets its just a modern myth something Monty Python would play on! He repeats lots of nonsense mixed with some truths to sell his wares books to feed his ego and stomach!
A real Symbologist would know that!

Now for the piste de la resistance!

Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann: Well this man claims to have been to the moon works on black projects and has a secret passport which he has showed everybody and been to conferences overseas all paid for, and on video for all to see, all while still working on top secret projects for a secret government agency! Wow what a brave whistle blower! (This will explain his disappearance from the scene of late, the government has locked him up!) As confirmed and checked out by Bill & kerry! It never dawned on Bill & Kerry that he set them up to give himself some credibility? He got somebody he knew who called him Dr or Professor when he's neither and that was the legitimacy! LOL

Since he knows his cover is now blown I doubt we will hear from him again in public at least! I know that a sting is in place to expose him if he dares set foot on any podium or conference. His real occupation and who he really is will make him turn purple as well as those who believed this fraud, all for 15 minutes of fame!

Pete Peterson: Oh how we know who this guy is? Well this guy is a home tinker inventor of useless gadgets who has a work shop! But he is neither a whistle-blower scientist or works on black projects, unless you count him getting black in his workshop, nor does he hold an accredited doctorate what he has is something you buy off the internet worthless to make him look like somebody, the same as some of the above. He use to be seen at fairs trying to sell his gadgets and other rubbish, wonder why the secret government lets him do that?

Now one of these above has an occupation which is closer to a "janitor" than anything else, anybody guess who? Yet Bill & Kerry investigated him? Black opps janitor perhaps?

The group of truth seekers who decided to trace them and expose these phony's are waiting to pounce with their evidence,but only when it will make an impact.

Why because they are sick of these frauds fooling those who want to find the real truth about real conspiracies! Not fantasy they have picked up from books the internet and TV!

Yet they like others have tried to warn Bill & Kerry but they would not have it! These exposes are not meant to embarrass them, but they will sadly.

There are others who are similar but most of them are not trying to sell stuff or have an agenda.There just mostly telling their story.But these have to be exposed, far to many people are believing these frauds.

Bill & Kerry what you had was something great and those of us who have been critical have mostly been because of your lack of discernment not what you set out to do, which we all appreciated, but you blew it you got close to the wrong people and believed BS.

I hope you wake up or discover these frauds really are frauds and you have been hoodwinked, because these are no better than the Ron L Hubbard's of this world. Though the latter was much worse he was a pornographer and paedophile as well as a fraud with his criminal brainwashing Scientology BS.

Bill & Kerry if you get back to what you set out to do in a discerning manor you would have virtually no criticism and you would have grateful followers of your work,because you do have a talent for interviewing and asking good questions that engrosses the viewer or listener.

The truth shall set you free, avoid braggarts fantasists and loud aggressive persons for they are vexations to the soul.

Best Regards
Baron
PS: Moderator notice as usual no fowl language. I once got a warning here from one mod for using the swear word "obsequious"! LOL,that's Really true!

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Old 03-26-2010, 12:02 PM   #7
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.So all these posts will be lost most likly for good when its closed down for none payment of fees.All this information lost forever sad!
Where do you get your information?... I was told that the admins and bill expect to keep the archives up...permenently...
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:38 PM   #8
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Where do you get your information?... I was told that the admins and bill expect to keep the archives up...permenently...
Hi Celine,

I'm only presuming that it will be closed permanently in the not to distant future, and from past experience of forums that stop all posting, and then close completely, and because of the way the notice was worded, that when its closed for posting then it will be up for awhile? Of course it costs $$$$$$ to keep it running! Why would Bill keep paying for it since he wants to get away from it?

He wants a site with no critic he can control from top to bottom...That's his prerogative of course.

Its powered by vbulletin and its not cheap.

Take a look at their website.
http://www.vbulletin.com/
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:44 PM   #9
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Money is far less an issue then the value of those threads IMO.
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Old 03-26-2010, 01:03 PM   #10
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Money is far less an issue then the value of those threads IMO.
Celene,

I agree with you.

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Old 03-26-2010, 01:13 PM   #11
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Hmm, Baron maybe you are right, but I'm surprised that you expect to find The Truth, The Whole Truth, and Nothing But The Truth on the internet?! Well, at least your post sounds so...

Anyway, all those people that you mentioned are at least more interesting for me than people from the mass media that I am bombarded with on a daily basis...

Can you expose some whistle-blower's names that you respect and trust? I hope that are not all whistle-blowers on your phony list...
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Old 03-26-2010, 01:19 PM   #12
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He wants a site with no critic he can control from top to bottom...That's his prerogative of course.
..and people who are willing to follow his orders and do whatever he tells them? (just asking)
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Old 03-26-2010, 01:25 PM   #13
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Hmm, Baron maybe you are right, but I'm surprised that you expect to find The Truth, The Whole Truth, and Nothing But The Truth on the internet?! Well, at least your post sounds so...

Anyway, all those people that you mentioned are at least more interesting for me than people from the mass media that I am bombarded with on a daily basis...
..
I would say that Hans Chrisian Andersen's stories are also very interesting, but it doesn't change the fact that these are all fairy-tales. I really wouldn't like to listen to whistleblowers' BS only because it sounds interesting... At least when it comes to mass media we know where they stand and we know what to expect. With whistleblowers it is different..any disinfo here is potentially dangerous too...
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Old 03-26-2010, 01:29 PM   #14
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Fantasy teaches as well.


Seeking truth imo is never a worthless endeavor , even online.

A wise and loving man once said to me..and i never let him forget it

Expectations, lead to disappointments
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Old 03-26-2010, 02:25 PM   #15
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I don't have a problem with listening to people without credentials...who may be partly crazy...and who are merely speculating...but they need to be honest about who they are and what they are doing. They should not misrepresent themselves...so as to be big-shots for a few months or years. I continue to think that most of the real insiders are so mind-controlled, and have such short leashes, that there is little chance of them revealing all of the secrets of the secret government and the secret space program. I still like the idea of having a rating system for lecturers and whistle-blowers...which properly identifies who they really are, and what they are really doing...with an accuracy and credibility score. The mainstream lies to us...and the fringe lies to us. I just want the truth...whether it makes me happy or not.

To the Avalon PTB: Is there any chance that this forum could be taken over by someone who would agree to keep it operational and safe...and who would assume all financial and legal liabilities, etc? Perhaps with a name change, $5/mo subscription, tightened posting and moderating standards...and perhaps a statement which all viewers and posters must agree to which releases the owner(s) of the forum from all liabilty...wherein viewers and posters understand the potentially upsetting nature of the material under consideration? I'm still sensing that all is not well at Avalon. This whole thing feels very tense, strained, and unnatural. This sort of a venture is really like dancing at the end of a very thin limb of a very high tree. It has huge risks and downsides. A big thank-you to all those who have sacrificed for the truth and humanity. I hope that all of the Camelot and Avalon material is being backed-up by multiple parties throughout the world...and even off-world...to preserve what I think is of great historical value.

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Old 03-26-2010, 02:35 PM   #16
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... At least when it comes to mass media we know where they stand and we know what to expect...
Hmm, "we"? You know, even a few years ago I went to vote for a democracy... Imagine that! Yes, that stupid I was... but now I know at least that.

I don't know, maybe you were born with all that knowledge and you can now instantly see who is a phony and who's not.
I'm still learning... but I think that is my 'sight' much better now, also because of whistle-blowers, phony or not...

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Old 03-26-2010, 02:55 PM   #17
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Hmm, Baron maybe you are right, but I'm surprised that you expect to find The Truth, The Whole Truth, and Nothing But The Truth on the internet?! Well, at least your post sounds so...

Anyway, all those people that you mentioned are at least more interesting for me than people from the mass media that I am bombarded with on a daily basis...

Can you expose some whistle-blower's names that you respect and trust? I hope that are not all whistle-blowers on your phony list...
Hi Oxiigen,

No I don't expect to find the truth The Whole Truth on the net.

But I would like to hear more truth from honest people, would that not be great?

I have a very tuned BS detector and a very good network of friends in this field who also loath these liars and frauds and repeaters of other peoples work, which they gain off the net and media and repeat with their special twist, presented with fear.

You see many years ago even before the internet and during its early inception, I was doing something similar to what Bill & Kerry are doing, and I got to know some of these fraudsters.

In fact some of them are so blatant they will talk amongst each other on who they can make a buck out of i.e. the gullible whoever they are, the public or anybody who will listen to them, and even other truth seekers interviewing them! Without the slightest hint of guilt something you would only normally associate with socio-paths.

Why am I a whistle blower on so called whistle blowers? Not for my benefit I do it so people who are none the wiser don't have to go through a long winded winding road only to discover they have been had!

I hate to see liars fooling innocent people.

I dare say you may find some of these people I mentioned more interesting than the main stream media.(Best to keep your main stream media down to the bare minimum anyway). That's fine as long as you know they are frauds liars and snake oil salesmen and you are using them only as entertainment for that's all they are entertainers.They are like actors they interpret the work of others add some spice since they are not creative enough like an author to produce original work, other than BS.That's then what one gets BS.

That's why you will often hear them say I said that first,I saw the bird flu coming first,the swine flu I discovered it first like little school kids or we predicted it using our black opps crystal ball and you can also have one for for only $299.00 with free nutrimedical vitamins that turn grey hair blue and then to your original colour! or they stand up and declare I went to the moon and I totally agree with that other liar that said he went to the moon too!

Though there are plenty of people out there sharing good information knowledge who are genuine, you just have to have your BS detector on at all times.

If their selling something be very, very careful.

If you are seeking knowledge and truth, you have to be discerning and sort the wheat from the chaff.

Those mentioned are the chaff and some of them were exposed years ago before B&K came on the scene.

Remember the old saying: If you cannot trust somebody with small matters, how can you trust them with large ones?

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PS:There are some very interesting people out there who have a story and who are genuine.Often though they get overlooked because of these parasites such as I mention.
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Good gad, you're right! Don't pay the bill the sight disappears. I suggest everyone who wants data already posted here to save it onto their hard drive, ask Richard or Gareth to transfer cherished threads over to PA2 or you can C&P them over at the Mists http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&act=SF&s=&f=3.

I'm already transferring my own personal threads I started way back at the beginning and are archived over to Mists as I didn't want to lose them.

Thanks Baron for the extra wake-up call.
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Old 03-26-2010, 03:09 PM   #19
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Have you ever considered joining the Misfits of Avalon? There are many who think like you. There are a bunch of free thinkers who are not afraid to question everything and who are not followers. If I had known this forum earlier, I would have misbehaved to get there.
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Have you ever considered joining the Misfits of Avalon? There are many who think like you. There are a bunch of free thinkers who are not afraid to question everything and who are not followers. If I had known this forum earlier, I would have misbehaved to get there.
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T&I,

No I have not heard of the forum "Misfits of Avalon" before. What is the full address? As the only thing that comes up in a search is for a facebook and a forum for a pop group!

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Baron,

This is the web. They call the Mists of Avalon. But I prefer to call the Misfits of Avalon. I can dance and sing there with freedom!

http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...mistsofavalon&

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Old 03-26-2010, 06:48 PM   #23
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Baron,

This is the web. They call the Mists of Avalon. But I prefer to call the Misfits of Avalon. I can dance and sing there with freedom!

http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...mistsofavalon&

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T%I

Thanks for the link...Unfortunately it did not work for some reason!!

Can you help?

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This one will work. http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...avalon&act=idx
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Hi Baron. And Hello To Everyone!

I have been a member of PA for quite some time, usually logging on several times a day, and this is my first post ever. And y'all have Baron to thank for that! LOL!

Baron, I just wanted to say thank you for making this comment. I think it's important to remind everyone of facts such as this. With all of the turmoil and drama going on here recently at PA, it is easy to draw people away from the real reasons that they are here. Obviously some of this was by design. Once drama has begun it takes on a life of it's own, consuming some people and taking them down a path which is totally irrelevant.

There are probably more than a few people on here that have a genuine story to tell that choose to remain silent for their own reasons. If there's a bunch of drama and in-fighting going on do you think they're ever going to want to say anything? I think not! And the same goes with the illegit whistleblowers (see Baron's post). Most of these people are dug in so deep and have such a financial following that why would the little guy, the ones that have something REAL to say and want NOTHING in return, ever want to come forward? Personally, I will never again allow myself to be squashed by these big-mouthed, self-important individuals again. They can have all the fame and fortune they want, and I'm sure they'll continue to do well because a lot of people are attracted to outspoken bigmouths, and I could care less. Besides...I don't at all mind being overlooked. Actually I kind of prefer it. The only thing I seek is GOOD FRIENDS WITH COMMON INTERESTS! For me, for awhile anyway, I will be doing what Ash said to Ripley: "I'm still collating".

Thank you for your posts Baron, and I wish you not to leave. You are important here.

And thank you all for allowing my two cents worth on here. Well, maybe four cents (inflation)!

Greetings to all!

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