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Old 12-26-2008, 01:41 PM   #1
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Hi guys

This is the best 8 minutes of wildlife footage you are ever likely to see. Think of it as an allegory and I promise you won't be disappointed. It proves that nature can teach us all we need to know about the world...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM

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Old 12-26-2008, 01:52 PM   #2
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AWESOME!

Wilderbeast for the win Now see that video? thats why the powers that be fear us little folk - they might snarl and growl and think they are the top dog, but should we gang up our weight of numbers will win the day every time.
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Old 12-26-2008, 02:14 PM   #3
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Hi guys

This is the best 8 minutes of wildlife footage you are ever likely to see. Think of it as an allegory and I promise you won't be disappointed. It proves that nature can teach us all we need to know about the world...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM

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Thank you very much for this very interesting video, Steve_G.
We humans, have to learn from these buffalos, how to handle a “superior enemy”.
I think we should do the same with the “power elite” in our “human world”.

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Old 12-26-2008, 03:01 PM   #4
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This is the best 8 minutes of wildlife footage you are ever likely to see. Think of it as an allegory and I promise you won't be disappointed. It proves that nature can teach us all we need to know about the world...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM

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Great video Do you think there is a lesson here to be learned for us as a human race ? I would say so! The trouble times ahead isnt going to go away, but banning together against those who want to harm us, control us or distroy us as a free human race needs to see this force coming at them. Group together as ONE big force and we have a chance. Coward away and be eaten one at a time.

No membership fees required, Just a change in heart and stand up for your fellow man The choice is only with one, yourself.
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Old 12-26-2008, 04:27 PM   #5
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to bad this ground crew thing isn't taking off. I for one am interested. so far I have learned that were out numbered. not enough people awake. and the few that are are spread all around the world. its going to have to take something massive to wake the masses in this country. way bigger that 911. most are not even aware of the suspicious activity on that. I'm growing pessimistic. and hope just doesn't seem to cut the mustard. if you know what I mean. everybody I know is just fine with the way things are. and to busy just tuning it all out and staying positive. don't want to hear it. think about it. get involved in it. ect. ect.
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Old 12-26-2008, 05:11 PM   #6
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Thanks Steve G
i really didn't think it was possible for that wee calf to have survived let alone get up and move!
To Dagon - I don't know where you were on 15th Feb 2003 but I know 10 people who couldn't join the anti-war march because they had to work, look after their kids or were too ill to leave home. same with Avalon among the people i know. they may not come to this site but they are preparing. ie there are far more ground crew numbers than subscribers to Avalon (good as it is)
also with the coming rise in unemployment. it may well backfire on PTB as lots of people will now have the time to be and do what they have long dreamed of being and doing but were too hooked in to having to do a job they didn't enjoy to dare to live the dream.
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i really didn't think it was possible for that wee calf to have survived let alone get up and move!
To Dagon - I don't know where you were on 15th Feb 2003 but I know 10 people who couldn't join the anti-war march because they had to work, look after their kids or were too ill to leave home. same with Avalon among the people i know. they may not come to this site but they are preparing. ie there are far more ground crew numbers than subscribers to Avalon (good as it is)
also with the coming rise in unemployment. it may well backfire on PTB as lots of people will now have the time to be and do what they have long dreamed of being and doing but were too hooked in to having to do a job they didn't enjoy to dare to live the dream.
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we here in the states had a few protests during the war. I went to 2 of them. one in the city. SF and one here in town. it didn't work like the buffalo movie darn it. I think it will take something bigger. much bigger. the numbers were small compared to the opposition..
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to bad this ground crew thing isn't taking off. I for one am interested. so far I have learned that were out numbered. not enough people awake. and the few that are are spread all around the world. its going to have to take something massive to wake the masses in this country. way bigger that 911. most are not even aware of the suspicious activity on that. I'm growing pessimistic. and hope just doesn't seem to cut the mustard. if you know what I mean. everybody I know is just fine with the way things are. and to busy just tuning it all out and staying positive. don't want to hear it. think about it. get involved in it. ect. ect.
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Don't loose heart. You have already done so much to help. It is all good and it is all making a difference - please keep going till the end.
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Old 12-27-2008, 02:03 AM   #9
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to bad this ground crew thing isn't taking off. I for one am interested. so far I have learned that were out numbered. not enough people awake. and the few that are are spread all around the world. its going to have to take something massive to wake the masses in this country. way bigger that 911. most are not even aware of the suspicious activity on that. I'm growing pessimistic. and hope just doesn't seem to cut the mustard. if you know what I mean. everybody I know is just fine with the way things are. and to busy just tuning it all out and staying positive. don't want to hear it. think about it. get involved in it. ect. ect.
I would have to agree with you, it will take a something massive but as long as they are in power they will turn it to their advantage. Stealth and Secretcy should be a first line of defense. Deny everything and acknowledge nothing. And keep no records and trust no one, but the ones that have proven them selves. Im sure I've put myself on the line just implying any of this.
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Old 12-27-2008, 03:44 AM   #10
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Damn, don't mess with wildbeest!
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Old 12-27-2008, 04:19 AM   #11
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when viewing the video. this comes to mind.



but I guess this is how we got to ware we are today.

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I would have to agree with you, it will take a something massive but as long as they are in power they will turn it to their advantage. Stealth and Secretcy should be a first line of defense. Deny everything and acknowledge nothing. And keep no records and trust no one, but the ones that have proven them selves. Im sure I've put myself on the line just implying any of this.
Sometimes I think the opposite. I know people that think that if they don't have a “registered mobile phone”, they think they are “safe”, i.e. not known.
I tell them, that even I could create a program that finds out what address the mobile phone is.
If a certain mobile phone exists on a specific address, you could assume that owner is on this address.
So, what I want to say, is that probably the lackeys of the “power elite” knows much more about us, than we can believe, with all their “fancy equipment”.
As I understand, the “power elite” use keywords, for us, like:
fear, lie, ignorance, selfishness, hierarchy, competition, hate, secrecy (compartmentalisation, need to know(probably lies)) and so on “negative words” according to me.
That means cooperating with the “power elite”.
What do you think about creating a new paradigm for ourselves, using the opposite to their keywords?
We should not cooperate with the “power elite”.
Instead we use for example: love (agape), courage, fortitude, truth, freedom, knowledge, cooperation, openness, sincerity, harmony and so on “positive words”, according to me.
So my suggestion is, openness instead, because you can't keep a secret from the power elite, according to my opinion.
I believe in the solution for the individual is:
Ignite the spark within us.
Encourage others.
Get rid of fears (“emotional scale climbing”)
Make plans for new societies, with a new paradigm.
Communicate, with people.
Develop spirituality.
Learn about things, that has been hidden to us.
Spread Light and Love.
This is what I think, and the “power elite” is only the “power elite”, as long as we consider them to be the “power elite”.
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Old 12-27-2008, 05:18 PM   #13
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Sometimes I think the opposite. I know people that think that if they don't have a “registered mobile phone”, they think they are “safe”, i.e. not known.
I tell them, that even I could create a program that finds out what address the mobile phone is.
If a certain mobile phone exists on a specific address, you could assume that owner is on this address.
So, what I want to say, is that probably the lackeys of the “power elite” knows much more about us, than we can believe, with all their “fancy equipment”.
As I understand, the “power elite” use keywords, for us, like:
fear, lie, ignorance, selfishness, hierarchy, competition, hate, secrecy (compartmentalisation, need to know(probably lies)) and so on “negative words” according to me.
That means cooperating with the “power elite”.
What do you think about creating a new paradigm for ourselves, using the opposite to their keywords?
We should not cooperate with the “power elite”.
Instead we use for example: love (agape), courage, fortitude, truth, freedom, knowledge, cooperation, openness, sincerity, harmony and so on “positive words”, according to me.
So my suggestion is, openness instead, because you can't keep a secret from the power elite, according to my opinion.
I believe in the solution for the individual is:
Ignite the spark within us.
Encourage others.
Get rid of fears (“emotional scale climbing”)
Make plans for new societies, with a new paradigm.
Communicate, with people.
Develop spirituality.
Learn about things, that has been hidden to us.
Spread Light and Love.
This is what I think, and the “power elite” is only the “power elite”, as long as we consider them to be the “power elite”.
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Great vid,
Stiros i have never feared the elite, that's the best way to go about it show them no fear it really riles them.
We are far superior, they can not touch us!
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Old 12-27-2008, 05:38 PM   #14
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Stiros i have never feared the elite, that's the best way to go about it show them no fear it really riles them.
We are far superior, they can not touch us!
That is really good, Jacqui D.
Look at all these new laws they are “pouring over” the citizen, in every country all over the world.
In fact I don't understand this behaviour.
Maybe this means that, they are really weak, IN REALITY.
If they were strong, they should attack us directly with force, but they really don't have this force to do it.
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That is really good, Jacqui D.
Look at all these new laws they are “pouring over” the citizen, in every country all over the world.
In fact I don't understand this behaviour.
Maybe this means that, they are really weak, IN REALITY.
If they were strong, they should attack us directly with force, but they really don't have this force to do it.
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Hi Stiros,
I have no real wisdom of what we as humans have as a force to protect us from the elite, but something i do know if they had any force over me after all the years of attacks be it, financially, mentally, emotionally i would be a dead person now.
Funny thing though with every attack i am re- invigored, re-energised-more stronger.
I just wish they would stop trying to drag me down, shows you how stupid they are because they never learn.
And the replication is becoming tedious to say the least.so that's what i say to the elite; up yours!!!!
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Hi Stiros,
I have no real wisdom of what we as humans have as a force to protect us from the elite, but something i do know if they had any force over me after all the years of attacks be it, financially, mentally, emotionally i would be a dead person now.
Funny thing though with every attack i am re- invigored, re-energised-more stronger.
I just wish they would stop trying to drag me down, shows you how stupid they are because they never learn.
And the replication is becoming tedious to say the least.so that's what i say to the elite; up yours!!!!
I agree, I have that life experience too.
Sometimes I think, our life here on this planet, is a form of school and that we are sent here, probably voluntarily!?, to evolve.
Because of this ongoing test of ones endurance, all the time.
My dream is to have a life with mechanisms, which is high up on the “emotional ladder”.
But it doesn't seem to happen, so far.
Anyhow, keep on struggling.
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I Am water. The rocks of the so called elite I flow easily around. They make me swirl and churn a bit but then Im back to calm again, and on I flow-----eternity Ahhh
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I'd just like to add my two cents worth, if I may. The video was very cool, by the way. Nice share.
The replies that followed were talking about anti-war rallys.... For your consideration, the universe doesn't hear the words that proceed the object of attention (in this case 'war') - it only hears the object of focus and delivers more of it accordingly.

I think it was Mother Theresa who said she'd never attend an 'anti-war' rally, but that she'd be all over a Peace Rally. Ever hear the expression 'What you resist persists'? It's true. To affect a change we cannot focus upon what we don't like, for that attention gives it more fuel for further growth. Rather, we should focus upon what we DO want, with unwavering expectation and gratitude that it is (or will be, if you need to think of it in terms of psychological time) coming, or even happening NOW.

People who endlessly recite the mantra of 'I wish I wasn't always so sick' - are ironically sick more often than anybody else. The same applies with people who harp on and on about their money troubles...and the money troubles continue. We need to completely revamp the way our minds work to effectively wield the power that we've always had, but have been so adroitly misguided away from.

Instead of bitching about the manufactured (false) energy crisis, I praise the free energy pioneers who are leading the way and making the technology available to everyone. I choose to not focus upon the lies that our government ordinarily issues to us, but celebrate the bravery of those intent on sharing the truth - no matter the danger. And some of them are rolling the dice BIG TIME. We can choose the way we look at things, the way we feel as a result of that information, and what we're going to focus on in our resolve to change them.

We change the world when we change ourselves. It begins with deconstructing the programmed systems of thought that we've been taught to adhere to as absolute. Remember who and what you are. Infinite. Powerful.

Something I'd like to share in closing; a portion of a song I wrote a few years ago...

...Recall – All meaning & reason
Return what was learned to your present day season
Of change, rearrange your thoughts and perception
Direction, conception, action, reaction
No more excuses – distance the shame
Trappings are Maya get ready, take aim
Get out of your own way, shoot for the stars
Your potential is infinite, take it - it's yours


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....... For your consideration, the universe doesn't hear the words that proceed the object of attention (in this case 'war') - it only hears the object of focus and delivers more of it accordingly. ........... The same applies with people who harp on and on about their money troubles...and the money troubles continue. ............ I praise the free energy pioneers who are leading the way and making the technology available to everyone. ..........., but celebrate the bravery of those intent on sharing the truth - no matter the danger. ................. We can choose the way we look at things, the way we feel as a result of that information, and what we're going to focus on in our resolve to change them. ............. We change the world when we change ourselves. It begins with deconstructing the programmed systems of thought that we've been taught to adhere to as absolute. Remember who and what you are. Infinite. Powerful.
Thank you recallone, for your insights.
I agree to that our thoughts seems to create, because it seems to work, SOMETIMES.

About the money, and the money systems behind it, I do not agree.
It is created to give the bank-owners all the money and we the people will be trapped in a debt-trap, owning nothing, but debts.

About brave and creative people, I totally agree.

It seems to me, that we are missing some important piece of information.
It is said that you create your own future, as an individual.
I don't think this is the only part in creating a future.
For example, from a book I read, explaining this:
The nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, probably none of the people had thought of being blown into “atoms and sub-particles”.
It is to me obvious, that we are missing something or we have the wrong model (thoughts).
Personally, I use to think my life here on planet Earth is more like a school or something, it seems to fit better.
And of course if we put the blame on our collective thought, to causing all the negative.
The solution is very easy.
We have to start immediately, with global meditations and be LOVE ourselves.
One bad consequence of this “think only positive thoughts”, is if the person in question don't help people in the surrounding, because it will give them negative vibes.
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Thank you recallone, for your insights.
I agree to that our thoughts seems to create, because it seems to work, SOMETIMES.

About the money, and the money systems behind it, I do not agree.
It is created to give the bank-owners all the money and we the people will be trapped in a debt-trap, owning nothing, but debts.
I think you misunderstood my statement, stiros. Your above statement is accurate, and I concur. My statement using money as an example was to demonstrate the relationship between our thoughts and the reality we create as a result of those thoughts. It's no great piece of information (especially for the members of this forum) that we are an enslaved people and that a total dissolution of the federal reserve is really the only way out of this economic prison. A resource based economy is the only one that's fair to the people and able to sustain itself. I was merely pointing out that our thoughts sculpt the circumstances and details that effect us personally, within the constructs of this greater beast that is our economic system.


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About brave and creative people, I totally agree.

It seems to me, that we are missing some important piece of information.
It is said that you create your own future, as an individual.
I don't think this is the only part in creating a future.
For example, from a book I read, explaining this:
The nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, probably none of the people had thought of being blown into “atoms and sub-particles”.
It is to me obvious, that we are missing something or we have the wrong model (thoughts).
Personally, I use to think my life here on planet Earth is more like a school or something, it seems to fit better.
And of course if we put the blame on our collective thought, to causing all the negative.
The solution is very easy.
We have to start immediately, with global meditations and be LOVE ourselves.
One bad consequence of this “think only positive thoughts”, is if the person in question don't help people in the surrounding, because it will give them negative vibes.
Comments very appreciated
Controlling the ego is much more than a pollyanish stance of “think only positive thoughts”. I know there are a lot of people in here that immediately have their guard up when they hear statements that seem to resemble a New Age approach, so I think it's important that I explain myself a little bit better (if I can).

While I'm all for group meditations, the responsibility is to the individual - and this responsibility goes way beyond good and bad vibes. This idea that something can't be right unless there is also a wrong - is part of the maya that keeps us locked into this paradigm. Religions have fostered this idea with concepts of good and evil, right and wrong, yin and yang, etc. We are Humans, Being, another example of the polarity. Our soul is infinite, while this flesh suit is not. This is a tug-of-war between our egos (our thinking minds) that fears death and our higher selves that knows no death. You see what I'm talking about? The hang up is that we're trying to figure out the true relationship between ourselves and the universe around us by employing the parameters of ONE DIMENSION - this dimension where polarity is king. We're attached to the notion of right and wrong so that we may judge someone for being wrong, while feeling a greater sense of self in being right. This is one of many ego trips that serves to keep us anchored in 3d.

If we distance ourselves from the system-perpetuated fallacy of division and polarity (of right and wrong, good and evil, life and death) and remain in a non-attached place of neutrality, then we transcend the parameters of this limited experience. Step outside of the box, so to speak. And here's where the ego steps back in, in an attempt to maintain control. If you're neutral about the victimization of thousands of innocents, then you must be a monster! Right? It's a moral judgment that's rooted in polarity. The same applies to figuring out who is right and who is wrong in a conflict. Your ego can't wait to announce to the world that its' figured things out, and here are the reasons why it is so...then it goes on to recite books and lessons and documentation as to why the reasoning is sound. But every bit of it is argued from the limitations of a polarized dimension.

I haven't embraced the whole school-house-earth idea for a while now, and I'll explain why. In a school, you learn great things from those who are more educated, smarter, and more capable than you. What's being established is much more than a relationship of information relaying, but a relationship that endorses the idea that a force outside of you is where you'll find the knowledge you seek.
Enter the concept of an all-knowing, benevolent God, separate from you - that lives in the clouds.... Again with the polarity and division. This idea that answers are to be found outside of oneself affects our ability to transcend the maya. A true teacher, spiritual mentor, guru, whatever - won't tell you the answers, but rather ask you the right questions so that you may find the answers yourself, from within.

I was recently stumbling through this very same explanation with a new friend when the most recent interview with Michael St.Clair dropped into my lap. He was on Coast to Coast just recently and in part 5 and part 6 he explains ever so eloquently (gotta love the way that man communicates) pretty much what I've been trying to explain here, and in other threads.

The playlist for the entire interview is HERE.

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Thank you recallone,
Thank you for your clarifications.

The “school” I was talking about is more like this: I will be submitted to circumstances and I have to find the answers myself, from within.

Personally I think, In a way that everyone is forcing the type of school onto themselves, from a spiritual level.
For example: I want to experience true love, this sounds easy, some simple words, and it is my inner wish.
If we use “the emotional scale” I find out for example, that I am jealous.
To get rid of the jealousy, I have to make it conscious to me, and then the jealousy disappears, but I have to substitute it with love instead.
And “my experience world” is giving me the possibilities to solve this problem.

About “If you're neutral about the victimization of thousands of innocents, then you must be a monster!”:
If neutral means the same as, to observe without fear feelings, I agree.

But in a situation, that I can change to something positive, by being brave.
And if I don't act, then I think it is cowardice and it is not “something pure higher”.
For example:
I come to a place and three people are handle, a kind and innocent person that you know, very roughly.
There are some possibilities of action:
Look the other way and silent move away from this place.
Shout to them: “Shame on you”, in a strong voice, and see if that works.
Shout to them, and tell the attackers, to leave, of course they attack you instead, and then you tell them: “You will probably kill me, but I will probably kill one of you.” in a strong voice.

So, I have a question to everybody: What is the right thing to do?

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You see, the very act of asking the question 'What is the right thing to do?' is endorsing the polarity of it - that there is a right and wrong action to take. That's the point I've been trying to make. I can tell you what I would do in a situation like the one you described, which would be right for me - but maybe not so right for someone else. There is no right and wrong thing to do.

If I saw three guys beating the **** out of someone I knew, I can tell you without reservation that I would jump in and deal as much damage to those three individuals as needed to protect the one being attacked. But I'm a big guy, and I'm dangerous in a physical confrontation. A 100 lb woman, on the other hand wouldn't likely take the same approach for obvious reasons. And the three people, for all you know - could have just caught that one person doing something that absolutely justified a beat-down. Too much is unknown.

Absolutes of wrong and right are about as plausible as saying that everybody fits one of twelve personality types on the astrological wheel. There are far too many variables to make that argument viable.

So, what's right for you? Go inside and get your answer.
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Thank you recallone,
I know about these things you mention, I am “the-testing-of-mechanisms-type-of-person”.
It seems to be an honest answer of a good person (I am aware).
I will also follow my heart, “because it is right”.
I will go for “the interfere way” of handling in this situation.
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Suffering is part of the path to enlightement. We should bless our "enemies" because they give us an opportunity to bounce back on the good that we are and express our soul qualities. Those counter forces they will hit us again again and manifest around us until we realize that if there is one " real " enemy it lays within ourselves and that the fastest way to have peace in the world is by finding peace within and demonstrating it without.

What striked me in Steve's video is that no blood was shed and no killing took place. Did these wild animals gather for the occasion of having humans watching them and make this scenario to teach them something? The lions they rescued the small buffalo from the water and gave him a chance by sitting next to him rather then devore him straight away.And they then allowed the pack to come back as a group and chase them away. In the beginning the pack of buffalos ran away in fear and a baby was lost..In the end the pack came back in strengh and the baby was saved..No signs of rage or ferocity but just strengh and dignity in both camps.

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Old 01-11-2009, 12:42 AM   #25
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Suffering is part of the path to enlightement. We should bless our "enemies" because they give us an opportunity to bounce back on the good that we are and express our soul qualities. Those counter forces they will hit us again again and manifest around us until we realize that if there is one " real " enemy it lays within ourselves and that the fastest way to have peace in the world is by finding peace within and demonstrating it without.

What striked me in Steve's video is that no blood was shed and no killing took place. Did these wild animals gather for the occasion of having humans watching them and make this scenario to teach them something? The lions they rescued the small buffalo from the water and gave him a chance by sitting next to him rather then devore him straight away.And they then allowed the pack to come back as a group and chase them away. In the beginning the pack of buffalos ran away in fear and a baby was lost..In the end the pack came back in strengh and the baby was saved..No signs of rage or ferocity but just strengh and dignity in both camps.

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Thank you mudra for your insights,
We have everybody here in Avalon, more or less, similar thoughts.
But we describe it in different ways, don't you agree?
But it is good, because it is easier for an individual to grasp, they have all different backgrounds and consequently differences in their paradigms.

The animal behaviour that you described and thoughts about that:
I consider animals in a similar way, as I do with a human (body, soul and spirit).
We don't know very much about how different animals think, we don't know about their paradigms.
Maybe the lions were very impressed of the small buffalo-calf.
Maybe the calf was sending strong positive vibes, so they helped the calf in the water instead.
Maybe because they liked this small fighter, it was something adorable in the lions paradigm.
Then to show the other buffalo that lions are no cowardices, they made this kind of proper exit.
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