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Old 11-27-2008, 04:24 PM   #1
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This Documentary goes through Jordan Maxwell's life, influences, and research from the perspective of a former fan of Maxwell' s who after "doing his homework" found that Maxwell often is totally making it up, and doesnt even try back up a majority of the things he says.
At the end the director tell us why he made the movie. discussing the research and claims of so-called 'Godfather of Secret Societies' Jordan Maxwell aka Russell Pine

If you want to know why this movie is called Water of Grace and in turn why maxwell calls himself by that term stemming from "Jordanus Maximus" you may also enjoy this movie:
Debunking Jordan Maxwell The Movie:
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Debunking Jordan Maxwell, The Movie Jordanus Maximus From http://nowheretorun.podomatic.com This is a film detailing the many mistakes and outright lies of Jordan Maxwell. After months of research and checking Jordan Maxwell’s “facts” I found him to be a very deceptive and manipulative teacher. In addition to debunking many of his claims this films looks at his motivations and associations and shows that his philosophy is exactly that of the So called New World Order although its very cleverly hidden. You will find his devotion to Theosophy includes naming Himself “Jordanus Maximus” I used to believe everything this man said. Not anymore. Does the sun die on the cross of the zodiac? Is the compass rose an acronym for “NEWS” Does Christ mean “oil”? Does anoint mean “sex”? Is God merely a volcano? Does the ark of the covenant represent the feminine ability to give life? Did King Solomon exist? Is the name Solomon derived from Sol OM On Does OM mean The Sun? Do we call turning on lights “on” because of Heliopolis? Does Solomons temple represent sex? Was Manna in the bible psychedelic mushrooms? Where is the mushroom painting? Does mushroom art in the 1200 speak for Christianity? Does Judaism come from Saturn Worship? Did the Egyptians say the sun was setting because of their god Set? Does Yahweh or YHWH mean the building up and releasing of dynamic energy? And is it associated with sex? Did Jordan Maxwell get His name from Blavatskys “Jordanus Maximus” and why is he lying about it? Jordan Maxwell calls for a new world order He says God communicates with us only through symbols He says the non-human/human hybrids are here and that they have a “divine right” to rule over us and that he is smart enough to accept it. He also says that these hybrids are going to reward him for understanding their symbols Some history about the Nephilim and the sons of god Jordan Maxwell describes his encounter with aliens Jordan Maxwell explains how he told these entities that he would do their will as long as the didn’t come to him in his room or “abduct him” And he explains how this deal was later confirmed and they would “channel” through him. He describes his uncle and family in the Vatican and the mob and says they are one in the same«
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Old 11-28-2008, 05:10 AM   #2
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Alan Watt comments about Jordan Maxwell
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(this show is refered to in the clip)
Aug. 6, 2008
Alan Watt on "Outside The Box" with Alex Ansary
(Originally Aired Live: Aug. 6, 2008 on "We The People Radio Network")
Aerial Spraying, Storm Creation, Chemical Clouds, HAARP - War on Farmers, Breadbasket, Floods, Droughts. "2012" Legend - Prophecies - 2010, Integration of Americas - 2012, World Government. Transhumanist Agenda - Hinduism, "Waves of Time" - Eugenics - Warfare Strategy - Totalitarian Society, Individual Isolation. Aleister Crowley, Creation of Mysticism and Confusion, Hopis, Scottish Rite, Freemasonry. New Age Movement, "Grand Delusion", "Becoming Gods", Heroes to Follow - Fascination - Gorbachev, New Religion based on Earth Worship - "Higher Consciousness". Corruption of Truth - American Revolution - System of "Civilization", Control - Illusion and Hallucination.
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http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.c...2008_Hour1.mp3

Dogma of Christianity, Churches, Organized Religions - Following Dictates of Government or Your God - Looking at the Negative - Rockefeller Foundation, UFO "Threat". Wiccanism, Books "Appeared" on the Shelves - Use of Power - Joining a Group vs. Individuality. Scottish Rite, "New Age" Journal - Heaven's Gate Cult Suicides - Forms of Mind Control, Manipulation. Marketing, Behaviour Alteration, Promiscuity - Media - Gender War - Victim Mentality, Fake History. United Nations, Sadomasochism, Psychopathic-Led System - Agenda 21, Habitat Supercities - Portland, Oregon - Restricting Freedom of Travel - Rural Property Taxation. CFR, RIIA - China as World Policeman - Marriage Agencies, Emigrating Women - Next "Boat People" Leaving U.S. Eternal Solutions, "Hurt No One" - Every Action has a Reaction - Cause and Effect - Fighting Evil Here in the World of Matter. Zbigniew Brzezinski "Between Two Ages" book, Technetronic Weaponry - Carroll Quigley books. Sitchin, "Interpretation" of Sumerian Tablets - Annunaki, Nature Spirits - Total Confusion. 30 Years of War and Strife - Kissinger - U.N. Weather Warfare Treaty - Pandemics.
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Links to Debunking Modern Mythology and Well-Financed Disinformation regarding Sumerian "Gods":

" SitchinIsWrong.com "
http://sitchiniswrong.com/sitchiniswrongcontentpage.htm

"Zecharia Sitchin's ancient astronaut theories - a skeptical archive"
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I have just watched the documentary Jordan Maxwell - Water of Grace, Water of Life and my feeling is that the
person or person's who have made this docu are religious and is therefore criticising Jordan Maxwell.
One thing Jordan is right about is the so called god's, they ARE EXSTRATERESTRIAL.
One other thing he's right about is the official history, most of it is falsified and corrupted, the true history is often written in the mystery-teachings.
Having said that I must say that I think that Jordan Maxwell sometimes misinterprets the mystery-teachings and wery often in a negative manner.
As usual you have to use discernment when listening to Maxwell.
Most of Jordan's work have had a positive impact on peoples awakening therefor,
I AM STILL A JORDAN FAN.

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Old 12-01-2008, 07:13 AM   #4
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One thing Jordan is right about is the so called god's, they ARE EXSTRATERESTRIAL.
this is not right at all and one of the main reasons he's a liar/disinfo specialist

That being said, i do not think this documentary by chris white is that good. his religious beliefs distort his understanding almost as much as jordan maxwell distorts his information. while maxwell needs to be exposed, some of the exposer done by chris white here is false and misleading.

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Old 12-01-2008, 11:28 AM   #5
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this is not right at all and one of the main reasons he's a liar/disinfo specialist

So Doom, are you saying that the God's our creators are fluffy old bearded men who are shooting bolts of lightning out of their right index-finger, and who created the entire world in SIX DAYS and then slept for one day because they were so pooped from all their creating.
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Old 12-01-2008, 12:20 PM   #6
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For goodness sakes people...
We are living under the biggest lie ever propagated in the existence of life anywhere at anytime! It IS almost over. The debunkers are out in full force!

Religion IS a Lie!

Government IS a Lie!

Commerce IS a Lie!

Debunking those that uncover lies and get to the truth IS a way of life of the
planners and controllers.

Anyone embedded in the lie does not want to admit that their life has been stolen from them by liars and thieves and murderers.

That is pretty heavy company to be in if you admit you are a part of it by non-knowing submission through vile coercion!

People that debunk the real truth simply do not want to take self-responsibility for their lives in front of them and turn from everything that has anything to do with deceit.

People that continue to lie in these times are going to be "infected" by exactly what they put forth...right in front of them in the now!

People that distort and distract others by intending to keep them from their own inner and natural connection to creation and the creator are about to come upon their own intents and actions right in front of them nowso more than ever in time as we have ever known of time.

It IS Over...the liars, thieves, and murderers are about to come upon their own makings in real time. The dissolution IS now taking place!

Anyone and everyone that has been deceived by them will get more than one opportunity in the time right ahead to turn from the vileness they were coerced and deceived to live by.

Time to listen to our own hearts and act accordingly!
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So Doom, are you saying that the God's our creators are fluffy old bearded men who are shooting bolts of lightning out of their right index-finger, and who created the entire world in SIX DAYS and then slept for one day because they were so pooped from all their creating.
uh no, not at all . you need to do some serious research into ancient history my friend . Make sure to look into not only the exoteric but the esoteric meanings. of course religions are mythologies but it goes a lot deeper than any of maxwell or zeitgiest or these types of characters will tell you, as they are cons themselves. Oppositions are set up and lead you see. They know some people will find the truth so they try to be the first to put it out, but then spin it in such a way that it supports their agenda. Give out some truths but then lead it in the wrong direction.

The 'aliens are gods' disinfo... I've made many posts about this in other threads, you should go back and check them out. It's a simple counter-intelligence technique. Make people beleive the fantastic. Attatch truth to it, and spin it into outer-space to discredit it. You can never bring your compliants to aliens. Instead of looking at the real causes of things people are have literally gone mad believing aliens rule the world and all sorts of outrageous lies to disable the victims minds. It even goes back to ancient history, it's nothing new, scaring people into thinking demons were in some sort of control, etc.

That doesn't mean there's no such thing as alien life forms, but all of this conspiracy garbage to do with aliens is ALL a major psyops.
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I agree with u eagle spirit. Those debunkers cant look at the truth cause they cant face and DONT want to face reality.

This guy Chris White who debunked Jordan Maxwell red only 4 books of those that JM mentionned. Took some info from wikipedia and the bible.

This guy didnt even read the bible from begining to the end.

He believes that the ones behind NWO and secret societies are the aliens.
What a joke.

Altough MAYBE he has found a few imperfections in JM speaches doesnt meen that all his work is BS.

JM red more then 4books in his 40years experience and even more in his lifetime.

He didnt expose the facts on wich JM was right cause if he would the general picure that JM is trying to make us understand would have made his debunking research meanless.

Remember that in JM speaches he says that he doesnt have all the truth and that u should never believe somebody who tells you he has the whole truth but to believe in the one who searches for it.

Chris white is the perfect example in wich our society is in wich is not exepting and facing the facts and putting the blame on someone else like the aliens.

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Chris White can Eat My Shorts.

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uh no, not at all . you need to do some serious research into ancient history my friend . Make sure to look into not only the exoteric but the esoteric meanings. of course religions are mythologies but it goes a lot deeper than any of maxwell or zeitgiest or these types of characters will tell you, as they are cons themselves. Oppositions are set up and lead you see. They know some people will find the truth so they try to be the first to put it out, but then spin it in such a way that it supports their agenda. Give out some truths but then lead it in the wrong direction.

The 'aliens are gods' disinfo... I've made many posts about this in other threads, you should go back and check them out. It's a simple counter-intelligence technique. Make people beleive the fantastic. Attatch truth to it, and spin it into outer-space to discredit it. You can never bring your compliants to aliens. Instead of looking at the real causes of things people are have literally gone mad believing aliens rule the world and all sorts of outrageous lies to disable the victims minds. It even goes back to ancient history, it's nothing new, scaring people into thinking demons were in some sort of control, etc.

That doesn't mean there's no such thing as alien life forms, but all of this conspiracy garbage to do with aliens is ALL a major psyops.
I'm so sorry for you Doom and all the other religious dogmatist's, your religious-reality is going to crumble and that is in a near future . All most all of the religious teaching's are falsified and corrupted and the only reason for that is to incarcerate and control humanity. If you want to come close to the real history of mankind you should read the history and teaching's of ancient Egypt , ancient Babylon and ancient India, the Torah the old Testament and Mahābhārata and other Hindu text's is also recommended there is a connection in all of this (ET's), the rest of the religious dogmas are only designed to control and deceive humanity.
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He believes that the ones behind NWO and secret societies are the aliens.
What a joke.

Not to defend Chris White, as I have stated before he is misguided, but Jordan Maxwell is not saint. You do relize that Jordan Maxwell believes aliens are involved in all of this stuff too? He's in cahoots with sitchin, tsarion, icke, and others. they all are pushing the reptilian alien agenda in some way shape or form. Pure disinformation. Hell, Jordan Maxwell even said on Jeff Rense that him and his family shot and killed a baby t-rex in their backyard, absolutely ridiculous, Ha.

Part of waking up is exposing these fake 'truth' movement leaders set up by the PTB to mislead us, who give some truths then spin it into outterspace. We'll never get anywhere if we follow the pied pipers. It is absolutely crucial to indentify counter-intellgience/disinfo.

This documentary is very poor, although Chris White seems more genuine than Maxwell and the like, he is misguided by his religious beliefs. So here you have a someone who is wrong, showing incorrectly how someone who is wrong, is wrong. (that last sentence sounds a little funny but it makes sense lol)
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Part of waking up is exposing these fake 'truth' movement leaders set up by the PTB to mislead us, who give some truths then spin it into outterspace. We'll never get anywhere if we follow the pied pipers. It is absolutely crucial to indentify counter-intellgience/disinfo.

On what grounds do you stand when you say that the "truth-movement leaders" are set up buy the PTB's, that my friend is fare reaching.
If it hadn't been for the likes of Maxwell Icke Tsarion Sitchin and MANY others we would still be living in the medieval dark-ages, thees are the kind of people that got burned at the stakes and the people that burned them were RELIGOUS FANATICS.
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Listen Doom first in NOWAY is sitchin inplying or pushing a reptilian agenda READ his books cause i have. I no way shape or form is sitchin talking about reptilians. He mentionned the annunaki.

Ickes is not pushing for the reptilian agenda just a believer because of the witness who came foreward to him. He admits that he has no such proof regarding the reptilians.

As for you finding chris white more genuine then maxwell well i dont and reading helps.

Im seeing people debunking steven greer this guy has 400 military witness and people believe the debunkers they just dont wanna face the facts.

As for the global picture who u belive or not doesnt make such importance as long as you see that the situation humanity is in is because of us the earths people and it is us who must change NOW before its to late.
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Listen Doom first in NOWAY is sitchin inplying or pushing a reptilian agenda READ his books cause i have. I no way shape or form is sitchin talking about reptilians. He mentionned the annunaki.

Ickes is not pushing for the reptilian agenda just a believer because of the witness who came foreward to him. He admits that he has no such proof regarding the reptilians.

As for you finding chris white more genuine then maxwell well i dont and reading helps.

Im seeing people debunking steven greer this guy has 400 military witness and people believe the debunkers they just dont wanna face the facts.

As for the global picture who u belive or not doesnt make such importance as long as you see that the situation humanity is in is because of us the earths people and it is us who must change NOW before its to late.

Steven Greer is debunked. I've checked it all out, for many years in fact. And Steven's info is not facts, like you say it is. You really believe all these ex-military men who have taken secret oaths? His witnessess are liars, or perhaps even believe the lies they are telling because of compartmentization of the operations they worked in. it's a major pyschology warfare program, a huge counter-intellgience operation by the CIA. It's all the new age agenda my friend, which has been exposed, for those who wish to as you say 'face the facts'. Most people don't want to believe the truth cause the truth hurts. They'd rather believe in fantasy.

For one such thing - the witness that have seen 'UFO's', well BBC has documented in the 70's that they are built here by us, and have nothing to do with aliens, it's just hidden technology. Eventually everything like this can be explained and is not other wordly. It's just psyops to spin people's mind off into fantasy.

And of course Icke, maxwell and sitchin push the reptilian agenda, are you kidding me?? seriously? you do relize that many of these new agers say the annunaki ARE reptilian aliens?

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On what grounds do you stand when you say that the "truth-movement leaders" are set up buy the PTB's, that my friend is fare reaching.
If it hadn't been for the likes of Maxwell Icke Tsarion Sitchin and MANY others we would still be living in the medieval dark-ages, thees are the kind of people that got burned at the stakes and the people that burned them were RELIGOUS FANATICS.
Oh it is far reaching indeed. It's time to take a dive farther down the rabbit hole my friend. I have many grounds to say this. It is the new age agenda which there is so much information about it is staggering. The PTB set up our leaders. They control all oppositions. The CIA set up entire the patriot movement, that is a fact and easily researchable with declassified CIA documents. tsarion, Sitchin, etc. aren't waking anyone up because they aren't telling anyone the truth. They tell you SOME truth(well not sitchin much, but others such as icke and tsarion do), but then spin it into lies so that you chase your imagination in circles and never find the truth. You see the PTB know there will be people that will not want to accept this new world order and who will figure things out, so they set out leaders to prevent that from happening by given us people who we think are acting as a voice for us. They make you think you wake up, while you waste your time in fantasy land.

Also it makes it so that when ppl put out REAL truth, they are discredited by association, since the PTB set up leaders to put out some of the same truth but spun in into outterspace. And that's where 'being burned at the stake' comes in.

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When u say this about greer and his witnesses is like not believing a single word for what project camelot and avalon stand for.

Anyways im done with this topic.
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Oh it is far reaching indeed. It's time to take a dive farther down the rabbit hole my friend. I have many grounds to say this. It is the new age agenda which there is so much information about it is staggering. The PTB set up our leaders. They control all oppositions. The CIA set up entire the patriot movement, that is a fact and easily researchable with declassified CIA documents. tsarion, Sitchin, etc. aren't waking anyone up because they aren't telling anyone the truth. They tell you SOME truth(well not sitchin much, but others such as icke and tsarion do), but then spin it into lies so that you chase your imagination in circles and never find the truth. You see the PTB know there will be people that will not want to accept this new world order and who will figure things out, so they set out leaders to prevent that from happening by given us people who we think are acting as a voice for us.

So what you are saying is that Maxwell Icke Tsarion Sitchin and MANY others are all knowingly misleading the rest of us and that they are doing this under direct orders from the PTB's, is that what you are saying.

It is absolutely clear to me that you are one of the religious people that is scared to death of the possibility that there religious beliefs are built on a pack of lies and therefor your entire reality is coming apart.
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Not to defend Chris White, as I have stated before he is misguided, but Jordan Maxwell is not saint.
I haven't read these Chris White articles, but a first glance that tells me what kind of job he does.
I admit i am a respectful 'fan' of the work of Tsarion and Maxwell.
If i'm not mistaken, Maxwell is on social security and doesn't have a round.
For a 'supposedly' disinformant, his standard of living does't seems to be very high...

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Hell, Jordan Maxwell even said on Jeff Rense that him and his family shot and killed a baby t-rex in their backyard, absolutely ridiculous, Ha.
We could give him the benefice of the doubt and say he is making a bit things up to get attention...?

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He's in cahoots with sitchin, tsarion, icke, and others. they all are pushing the reptilian alien agenda in some way shape or form. Pure disinformation.
That's a bold and misguiding statement to say.
Personally, i feel it's dangerous to dismiss this possibilty without proper evaluation.

These are not the only researchers talking about this. They offer us a wider perspective of the situation IMHO, and their work to me sounds honest, backed and fully referenced.

Also, they bring solutions, and gives us hints on how to dodge our way out of this mess.


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This documentary is very poor, although Chris White seems more genuine than Maxwell and the like, he is misguided by his religious beliefs. So here you have a someone who is wrong, showing incorrectly how someone who is wrong, is wrong. (that last sentence sounds a little funny but it makes sense lol
I know what you mean.
But like eaglespirit said in the previous post, Religion is a Lie
and this Chris White guy is trying to mix things up: Religion as 'truth' against 'conspiracy research'....

So we could then say:

1- Chris White spills his Religious frustration on the first guy around; here, Jordan Maxwell...

OR

2- He is a Disinformant, trying to gain profit from weaknesses of the 'messenger'.

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but others such as icke and tsarion do), but then spin it into lies so that you chase your imagination in circles and never find the truth.
Well, my friend i am sorry to say you should go back and 'Do your homework' !

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I haven't read these Chris White articles, but a first glance that tells me what kind of job he does.
I admit i am a respectful 'fan' of the work of Tsarion and Maxwell.
If i'm not mistaken, Maxwell is on social security and doesn't have a round.
For a 'supposedly' disinformant, his standard of living does't seems to be very high...



We could give him the benefice of the doubt and say is makiing a bit things up to get attention...?



That's a bold and misguiding statement to say.
Personally, i feel it's dangerous to dismiss this possibilty without proper evaluation.

These are not the only researchers talking about this. They offer us a wider perspective of the situation IMHO, and their work to me sounds honest, backed and fully referenced.

Also, they bring solutions, and gives us hints on how to dodge our way out of this mess.




I know what you mean.
But like eaglespirit said in the previous post, Religion is a Lie
and this Chris White guy is trying to mix things up: Religion as 'truth' against 'conspiracy research'....

So we could then say:

1- Chris White spills his Religious frustration on the first guy around; here, Jordan Maxwell...

OR

2- He is a Disinformant, trying to gain profit from weaknesses of the 'messenger'.



Well, my friend i am sorry to say you should go back and 'Do your homework' !

salute.
it's not just 1. or 2., there's always more than just black and white.

Chris white is wrong, but so is maxwell.
As for maxwell's standard of living, he didn't exactly live a hard life, he travelled the world, seen alot, hung with a lot of big boys, but screwed himself over by scamming ppl(he commited fraud), his is a legit criminal. And also, these 'disinformants' are really left in the dust. They are often not taking care of. often they think they are correct but have been lead to believe and spread the disinformation that they themselves think is truth. even high beaurocrats, they are just being used and usually don't even know it themselves.

i've done my homework, i'm afriad it's you haven't done yours. You have to get all sides fo the story, not just the black and white. i've ressearched Maxwell's info extensively for years, along with sitchin, icke, tsarion, and the like. It's all apart of the new age agenda. Please research that. The New Age Agenda. Also look into counter-intelligence. Look at the definition of it, and look what Icke, tsarion, etc. are doing. They give some truth, gain followers, then spin it into outterspace and lies. That's how counter-intelligence works. (for starters u coudl try the Alan Watt talks i posted in the 2nd post)

Maxwell, tsarion, etc. aren't offering hints or solutions, they give you a little truth and then spin it so you focus your attention and solutions on something that has nothing to do with stopping the new world order (even though u think it will). They love confused new world order combants that are busy chasing aliens and jews etc, and all of this made up conspiracy junk.

Also Maxwell has publicly stated his affection for masonry and that alone is one of the biggest red flags on his name. He is an actual disinfo agent imo. that why i say Chris White seems more genuine. Chris just seems completely off target because of his religious beliefs not allowing him from seeing the real picture. that doesn't make his info any better though.

And really how can you so easily write off what Maxwell said as "making up things to get attention" and not think that matters?

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What do you mean by this: 'little truth' ???

What's your definition of this.....and bring me an example in Tsarion's work that corroborate what you say.

I'll see then.

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Thees are the fact's.

1. Mankind are a hybrid-creation of our ET-god's. Deal with it.

2. All religions created ANNO DOMINI are falsifications, they are created to enslave and control humanity.

3. Religion are the PTB's BEST WEAPON when it comes to controlling us, why would they destroy that.

4. When you are saying that the Maxwells Ickes Tsarions and many others are agents of the PTB's, you yourself are an Agent of the PTB's.

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What do you mean by this: 'little truth' ???

What's your definition of this.....and bring me an example in Tsarion's work that corroborate what you say.

I'll see then.

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simply things like when icke will talk about how there is the ruling elite, which is true, but then they spin it and say they are controlled by reptilian aliens and what not. Tsarion isn't as pronounced about reptilians, but the still pushes it, and helped Icke with a lot of his books. But they'll use sitchin's falsified info as evidence, and all sorts of misinterpretations to push this kinda stuff. Mainstream media even helps it along with series such as V. Predictive programming to defeat your mind. When you accept aliens as gods or rulers you become defeated, you'll never find an alien to blame or to complain to, and most will accept that as gods they are supeirior, and we are inferior, and therefor nothing can be done - or anythnig they think can be done, is useless cause they have their focus on something imaginary and any solution they put forth will not help anything. Please search previous posts by myself on this board, as I have many posts about more of this same information, and links to where to get more, etc.

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Thees are the fact's.

1. Mankind are a hybrid-creation of our ET-god's. Deal with it.

2. All religions created ANNO DOMINI are falsifications, they are created to enslave and control humanity.

3. Religion are the PTB's BEST WEAPON when it comes to controlling us, why would they destroy that.

4. When you are saying that the Maxwells Ickes Tsarions and many others are agents of the PTB's, you yourself are an Agent of the PTB's.
I'll agree with you about religions for the most part, but that's it. ACtually not really, you only got 1/4. Because they are planning to destroy the old religions to bring in a new one. A better one to better control the public. Yes the old religions were tools to control us, but still they must be destroyed by the PTB to bring in their new religion. Which has basically already happened, it's called the new age.

I know it's hard for you to accept that there are no ETs involved here, many people believe this new age stuff like a religion. It's so fantastic they want to believe it. Behaviorists know this, humans are so attracted to fantastic. As Albert Pike said, "Oh, foolish man, what can you not be made to believe?"
Believing we are created by ET gods is EXACTLY what the new world order want us to believe. We are already defeated if thats what we think. Look into the new age agenda, this is EXACTLY what they want. There is an unseen element of pyschological defeat, when you accept aliens as our gods.

And no, using factual information to show how the PTB uses counter-intellgence does not make me "an agent of the PTB". that quote is practically Fear of knoweldge. And you can't say that I just haven't done my resaerch - Some may not believe in the alien agenda stuff etc. because they haven't looked into or w/e, but I have, extensively, so you can't say i haven't done my research. I have and more, and have come to what i see as now being obvious conclusions, that it is pure counter-intelligence.

Now I ask you, have you checked out all sides of the story, have you extensively researched the new age and counter intelligence?

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Whenever there comes along a person who claims that we are created by other living beings they always get severely attacked by the religious right-wing of ALL DOMINATIONS, that in it's self tells you something doesn't it.
Remember Erich Von Däniken, any one?
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Why is there suddenly a bout of recriminations on Jordan Maxwell?
I have just looked at youtube and there are uploaded another set of anti maxwell vids?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=03kx7-qiYjU
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I'll agree with you about religions for the most part, but that's it. ACtually not really, because they are planning to destroy the old religions to bring in a new one. A better one to better control the public. Yes the old religions were tools to control us, but still they must be destroyed by the PTB to bring in their new religion. Which has basically already happened, it's called the new age.

I know it's hard for you to accept that there are no ETs involved here, many people believe this new age stuff like a religion. It's so fantastic they want to believe it. Behaviorists know this, humans are so attracted to fantastic. As Albert Pike said, "Oh, foolish man, what can you not be made to believe?"
Believing we are created by ET gods is EXACTLY what the new world order want us to believe. We are already defeated if thats what we think. Look into the new age agenda, this is EXACTLY what they want.

And no, using factual information to show how the PTB uses counter-intellgence does not make me "an agent of the PTB". that quote is practically Fear of knoweldge. And you can't say that I just haven't done my resaerch - Some may not believe in the alien agenda stuff etc. because they haven't looked into or w/e, but I have, extensively, so you can't say i haven't done my research. I have and more, and have come to what i see as now being obvious conclusions, that it is pure counter-intelligence.

Now I ask you, have you checked out all sides of the story, have you extensively researched the new age and counter intelligence?
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