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Old 09-29-2008, 10:06 AM   #26
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I am in Oamaru. I suspect that any attempts at bringing together a ground crew in a small community will involve the whole town itself reconnecting and banding together - the whole 'know your neighbour' thing.

The problem is, most of us these days learn about teamwork through such esteemed reality tv shows as 'Celebrity Treasure Island' and 'Castaway'. I am positive that a place like ours would remain relatively self-sustainable when it comes to growing our own food off the grid, as it were.
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:31 AM   #27
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I am in Oamaru. I suspect that any attempts at bringing together a ground crew in a small community will involve the whole town itself reconnecting and banding together - the whole 'know your neighbour' thing.

The problem is, most of us these days learn about teamwork through such esteemed reality tv shows as 'Celebrity Treasure Island' and 'Castaway'. I am positive that a place like ours would remain relatively self-sustainable when it comes to growing our own food off the grid, as it were.
I tend to agree with that. We only need to "take back" the oil being extracted in the deep south and keep it for ourselves instead of sending it overseas and we should be okay.
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Old 10-19-2008, 01:16 AM   #28
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Hi Everyone,

Heres my 10 cents worth...
NZ is a very very good place to be, especially moving into 2009.
Lots of land, water, mild climate and laid back resourceful people.
Like all developed countries, I suspect living in the big cities will prove to be problematic and NZ's big cities are no exception. As I see it the integrated logistics system will possibly break down. This is how your food gets from the manufacturer to your local supermarket. Credit difficulties and fuel supply (peak oil) could accentuate this problem. Iceland have this issue now.
What you need to be doing now is getting your thinking straight. Don't get too caught up with chemtrails, ufos, illuminati, escaping to Uraguay or any of that ****. Don't listen to alot of the blatantly fear based disinformation on the net either e.g. Blossom Goodchild, Bill Deagle and the zetatalk website - I found this stuff just brings you down and gets in the way of YOU coming up with viable solutions. Be discerning, if you focus on it, it becomes real. Particulary important heading into 2009 to 2012.
Don't let other peoples dramas, karma or egos get in your way. Alot of 'new age' types just have big egos and have a bone to grind. Switch it off and go for a walk outdoors, play with the dog, have a coffee, lighten up and get centred.

The solution lies with you, get your thinking straight and the rest falls into place pretty effortlessly.

As for me, I've got a couple of acres in Hawkes Bay, bore water, chooks, vegies and a wood fired oven with a wetback. If the grid goes at least I have hot water and cooked meals. I'm way better off than alot of 'rich' city people. 2012 is all about emotional control, thoughts and manifesting your own reality. Go with the flow and trust your intuition. Turn off the tv and the computer, enjoy nature and be reconnected with the earth.

Good luck everyone,
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Old 10-19-2008, 01:34 AM   #29
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Good thoughts StevenG.

A lot of getting on with life, if there are grid or other issues, will involve the development of strong local communities prepared to assist one another.
In this respect you being out in the country have a more solid base to build from. Here in the 'Big Smoke' we 'Jafas' have to break back into a communication mode. Talking to the neighbours over the fence may be just a traumatic as the event that gives rise to needing to do it.

Well they say challanges are the spice of life and isn't that what we are all here for?
You always have to look on the positive side, no matter how small it may be.
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Old 10-19-2008, 10:21 PM   #30
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Hi IRKOD,
Yes, even in the rural parts of NZ, your community is important. You need to have a sense of contribution and help others. So yes, being prepared to communicate with people and being part of a community is a good start.
Hiding in the hills behind a barb wire fence with guns, eating freeze dried food is a bit too paranoid for me.
Auckland could be a ok if you have a quarter acre with plenty of garden. It'd be pretty easy to get a collective going between neighbours, that way you can specialise in growing a few crops and trade with your excess produce. The climate is humid and warm so you can grow anything up there. My nana lived next to some Samoans and they had a banana tree!
If your're in an apartment, I'd be thinking of an alternative living arangement. It just won't cut it moving forward. Property in NZ has never been more affordable, a good time to get that bit of land, something to consider anyway.
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:29 AM   #31
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when are we all going to get together like the australian guys have ?
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Old 10-22-2008, 02:40 AM   #32
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Hi Linkes,

Whats the goal here?

Get togethers are good but also involve travel, time and committment.
Also, if eveyones goals are different then its setting people up for a big dissapointment as you'll never meet everyones expectations.

Maybe we're just an information and support network for now? Its always good to bounce ideas around and debate. Does that makes sense.

What do you guys think?

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Old 10-22-2008, 04:35 AM   #33
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Hi Linkes & Steveyg.

I tend to agree at this point we should be more an information and support grouping.

In this respect I feel there would be a benefit in establishing a central repository (library) on the net where PDF downloads on Survival, Homesteading, Medical, Living in 3rd world conditions etc can be logged.

I'm not advocating a forum type setup, which are good, but I personally find difficult to 'backtrack on' looking for ideas I recall having seen in the past and would now like clarification on.

While there is a fantastic resource in the net it takes a lot of time to 'surf' for relevant information. A central resource may also stimulate ideas in others about areas they may have overlooked in making their own plans.

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Old 10-28-2008, 06:55 AM   #34
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Hello...?

Is it just me or doesnt it seem like theres much activity on the New Zealand forums, is this because most of our mates are asleep or are we all just waiting for the right time.
Anyway, since we'v got a place to chat specifically for our country why dont we talk about whats generally going on here and start sharing some information.
Now just to start off is it safe to assume im not the only nzer whose watched the project camelot videos? Or maybe seen Zeitgeist and heard of jordan maxwell and michael tsarion, or maybe uv heard of david icke or david wilcock, maybe even had a look at some of the conscious media network interviews.
I know theres heaps more but some of the ideas held by these people can do with some debate right.. anyone got something to add or possibly links to other interesting information? the least we can do is to get on the same page as each other right..

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Old 10-28-2008, 10:29 AM   #35
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Optix,

While there are only a comparative few commenting, at last viewing the stats showed 33 posts with 1,155 visits to this tread, some people are getting the message.

Community wise we certainly don't appear to be strong as last time I looked at the NZ Social listing there were only 2 on it. To my way of thinking that should be the forum for setting up a local information/Resource exchange under the appropriate "survival" threads
Current news and 'alerts' are great on this the main forum, but trying to research it for specific topics becomes difficult and time consuming.

There are a lot of people out there waiting or wanting to be woken up, particularly with the current financial fiasco. I download a lot of the interviews from Camelot and other sites and put them on CD/DVD's. A few friends and a lot of the kids (adult & teenage) friends borrow or copy them.

By the same token there are others that appear to think that we are 'fringe dwellers'

Lets hope we get more 'Life' on the NZ. While it may go against the general NZ conservative nature to express opinion in public, here at least you have the opportunity to do it as anonymously as you wish.



(Have just rechecked the listing and see that you have added yourself to it - Great)

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Old 10-29-2008, 11:51 PM   #36
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Hi folks, I'm still checking in and reading as much as poss on this site, there's so many interesting threads I just don't get time to contribute.
So, I'll throw in a subject thats really bothering me, I believe the 1080 drops and the Setnet ban are simply there to stop us from getting free food and to stop or discourage people from going "bush" when the supermarkets are empty. Also I've been told by a friend that Council workers are being "taught" how to convince coastal land owners to give up their properties with the excuse that a tidal wave is coming. Any thoughts ?.
Keep on keeping on, Peter.
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:58 AM   #37
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Hi Peter,

Be discerning with the information you look at. The internet is like walking into a libray with all the books lying on the floor.

I wouldn't worry about the setnet ban and 1080. In a few years the Government is likely to have no money, you'll be lucky if anyone is there to answer the phones. There are plenty of people currently living off their own land in NZ, no one is stopping you joining them if you want, be prepared to do some work though.

I also doubt council workers are telling coast dwellers to move due to 'tidal waves', more like explaining how storm surges due to rising ocean levels will begin to encroach on our coastal land. These residents would be wanting their councils to do more to protect their way of life. Councils are hip to the diminishing returns of coastal properties. Anyone dumb enough to still be holding onto high-risk coastal property will realise soon enough the limitations of this living arrangement.
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:56 AM   #38
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Hi people, Optix I just hope you are good friends with the Maori up there as that is Ngapuhi country-in other words they are the ones that ate white people, longpork they called us! But they ate each other too! That was a 100 yeras ago to be sure but if things got bad enough they would be quite happy to revert to it I'm sure!
Down here in the SAouth Island there is only 1 million people compared to 3 million for the north island.
There is no methamphetimine freaks here either. A local cop told me that in Dunedin and Invergargill there is no problem with that but in Christchurch there is. I lived in Hamilton for 25 years and have been here 10 yeras. it was the best thing I've ever done,moving here that is. The people are nicer and more intelligent per capita too.
Feel free to look me up (anyone that reads this) if you ever visit or move down this way. And it's not as cold as people think! That's a disinfo thing to keep the idiots away!
Regard,Stephen
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:53 PM   #39
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Hahaha HaveBlue, im well aware that theres a lot of ngapuhi country up here but generally you can talk to them now since they know english so im hoping it doesnt get so bad that i get eaten.....
but then for that to happen they'd have to catch me, and im verry verrry sneaky.
Plus from what i make of this country i think im lookin to move to the south island in the next year or two anyway, i id feel safer in the mountains being higher up. a lot of northland is low lying and would get flooded from any serious storm.
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:25 AM   #40
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Hi KIwis , Kia Ora . w.r.t. chemtrails there are much less chemtrails here than in Europe , so that's great . Probably due to our blue skies they spray at night so you can not see them . If you want to watch the end result look at the sun on a blue sky like now for example on the north shore , you will notice that around the sun the color is a pale whitish blue . Do not fear the chemtrails as for now but fear the coming CODEX ALIMENTARIUS implementation , and the future banning of alternative medicines . the magazine " Uncensored " last issue has a very nice article on the subject , it is imperative to read it to learn how to react and concentrate our efforts .
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:35 PM   #41
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Hiya, Im going to say utopiandreamer has the right idea, i also read that article against natural medicines in the uncensored magazine and i would recommend uncensored and nexus magazines both as excellent alternative and informative reading material that can be purchased from your local super markets or post shops. the problem with these tho is its all good and well to read about it and be aware but its another for us to have anyway for everyone to communicate with each other about these ideas. therefore i propose we either start a new thread based as a discussion group on magazines like these or we utilise the new zealand forum for that purpose as we havent really had much activity so far haha.
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:33 PM   #42
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Hi Optix,

I think the New Zealand Forum (Social Group) would be the appropriate place to use. Likely to be far less threads so easier to locate ideas etc.
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Old 11-24-2008, 06:51 AM   #43
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Hi

I have a network of people and I am putting things into place, our website will be on line in a few weeks, we will be takeing the offensive and also will be acting on developed plans if the worst care senario occurs.

Feel free to e-mail me if you want to know more.

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Old 11-30-2008, 04:48 AM   #44
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Hi

Just a clarification, I am here for people who want to network, communicate and educate other people, also to find solutions for the young people regarding their short and long term survival, as they are the future.

Robert Shariff

Leader O Aotearoa Waka

PS: in the future gold and silver will be meaningless, water and land brings life.
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:04 AM   #45
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My wife and I went to the high commission, and asked about living in NZ. They were really helpful until it got to education of our little kiddie and immunisations.

Cannot educate at home 'unless you can satisfy the education secetary that she will be as well educated and as regulated as she would be at school'.

So in short, we said thanks, and **** you. brain washing? no way - we teach at home because we know how the state wants robots and docile sheep. they were very taken aback, but it made us realise we are in a good place. Oh and about child hood mandatory vaccines.... NZ just got scrubbed from the 'to do' list.

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Old 12-04-2008, 08:20 PM   #46
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Hi Fellow Kiwis.

Delighted to have recently found this web community and this is my first post to say "hi".

I'm a 40 year old male living on the outskirts of Auckland in a beautiful patch of Kauris and Rimus etc and have been on a search for knowledge and truth my whole life - you never stop learning!

For those interested I am active on another great site that is "gathering the ground crew" and it is www.ashtarcommand.net

Blessings to All.
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Old 12-06-2008, 11:28 PM   #47
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I've thought carefully about posting this - and have now decided it is the right move. Sorry for the re-post, I also posted this in the other NZ thread.

I thought I should share with all of you that I contacted Maximise on here, regarding NZ ground crew plans. He was friendly at first, then upon viewing my website which outlines my artist/musician profile of a more spiritual nature - he outright judged me and said he wasn't interested in the kind of work I do, and that I basically wasn't welcome.

He then signed the email he sent me, LEADER, of some Aotearoa group.

I feel it is important that there is transparency, in these early formative stages...and we all need to be careful about who we associate ourselves with to co-create these ground crews & bases.

Personally, anyone calling themselves a leader, who judges others without even finding out about them directly - I would be concerned about their assumed role of "leader".

I am not interested in further fueling this conflict, nor having a public war with anyone. We have enough disharmony already on this planet. I approach people on here, for support, collaboration & co-creation. I don't believe it is acceptable for anyone to judge, exclude, or label THEMSELVES or anyone else. That's just continuing with old dysfunctional behaviours of segregation and EGO.

As I wrote to Maximise : "A united community presents an inpenetrable front against corruption."

I wish you all the best in finding the right leaders, and collaborators to work with - conscious, open, loving, passionate individuals all about working TOGETHER for a better world.

Blessings.
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:46 AM   #48
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Thankx Dakini7, like you I believe we should be open and truthfull on this forum.
I contacted Maximise myself after reading his 1st post but when I saw he signed himself leader the warning lights started flashing, I personally have no desire to be in anyones flock.
Like you my wife Rosie and I are both Artists/musicians and we are also very spiritually inclined, so he won't be wanting us amongst his followers, Baa.
I doubt very much that you, Maximise will find many people here ready to take you on as their leader. The majority here are Free souls thats why they are here, the ones looking for leaders are sitting in front of their televisions or tugging on the priests cassock.
The EGO desires recognition, control and power over others we have to leave our ego's behind and accept to share the responsibility of decision making.
Arguably some people need and want to be guided, like the weak willed the mentally handicapped and of course young children and we all have a responsibility to help those individuals who ask for help. I never imagined that any of the ground crew members would want to follow a leader it seems so strange to me, isn't that where humanity up till now has gone wrong.
Thankx again Dakini7 I hope we meet one day,
Bye for now, Peter.
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Old 12-08-2008, 07:19 AM   #49
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Hi Dakini7 & Peter,

I totally agree we should be here to assist each other and there is no place for EGO's. True 'Leaders' develop and are accepted by their followers for their skills or abilities.

Others can only be Directors; holding power based on the resources they hold or that are made available to them by their patrons.

One of the main function of the Ground Crew, as I see it is to make survival/ quality of life information freely available to those who want it; without endangering their own communities security.

Stay Safe.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:05 AM   #50
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Points of clarification,

1.0 I am Leader O (meaning of) Aotearoa Waka, which is a movement of people, the network of which I speak.

2.0 Its unfortunate that some people propogate negativity, if someone choses not to associate with someone else out of free choice.

3.0 It is disrespectful to sway the purpose of this forum from the building of networks, to creating an atmosphere is distrust amongst people.

4.0 Not all colored people are dishonest, and ignorance of a culture is no excuse not to share unconditional love (aroha) and compassion by leading by a good example.

5.0 Comments like these on this forum makes me dispair at times, I often wonder what happened to respect and compassion in people.
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