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Old 12-22-2009, 01:13 PM   #1
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Tehran, Dec. 22, 09 (Hamsayeh.Net) - The US government says it is now ready to expand wars to other nations and regions around the world.



US Admiral Michael Mullen said yesterday, the military under his command is fully ready to attack Iran militarily upon the presidential order. Mullen said it was necessary that in this case the threat of launching a military attack to run alongside any negotiations with Tehran.

http://hamsayeh.net/hamsayehnet_iran...%20news681.htm
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:22 PM   #2
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If you have the biggest weapon industry in the world it is inevitable that you always are ready for war, you need another one to get the economy going.

A dutch comedian once said that warfare is paid by taxes and disaster relief by donations. Why don't we swap these things for a change ....
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:30 PM   #3
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I read somewhere " MOre money is made by the bankers in one day of war than in one year of peace". With many of our military on 4th,5th,and 6th deployments to Iraq and Afganistan the only way there is going to be another war is if the draft gets instituted. Suicide rates are at an all time high in the army. Economies are hemmoraging around the world, I don't see a war, there are just to many other problems governments are dealing with within their own countries besides were better than this as a people in the developed countries.

It's the elected leaders that follow the path of arrogancy and corruption around the world that really are the problems, I'd say we should throw the big bankers into this too, people of the world are genuine and good. We need to follow that path.
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:31 PM   #4
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USA..that's enough!! Don't even think about it!!!
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:33 PM   #5
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US Admiral Michael Mullen said yesterday, the military under his command is fully ready to attack Iran militarily upon the presidential order.
Under the Constitution of the United States, only Congress has the authority to declare war.

US Admiral Michael Mullen needs to consider his duty under the US Constitution and behave accordingly.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:10 PM   #6
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i'm sure it's all about that disputed oil well that the Iranians just threatened by sending some troops to guard it. we got in Iraq over oil .... and we sure haven't conquered our addiction to it yet! of course, war always helps an economy, and since the high unemployment rate is such a serious political problem right now, another war would probably alleviate that. but SERIOUSLY .... are we really that crazy?!? to open-up a third front in this mid-east war??? could Armageddon really be that far behind, if we're actually that stupid?! surely there's some better way to solve our energy and economic problems .... like disclosing the free energy program perhaps?!! let's at least HOPE so!
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:24 PM   #7
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what i believe could happen is a surgical war. Basically we go in there bomb the

**** out of them and let Israel clean up the mess. The last thing Obama needs

on his plate is a new war in Iran. You have to realize a lot of his liberal base,

is already furious that he sent 30'000 troops to Afganistan. The last thing he's

gonna want know is a third war. It would be political suicide in his case. Unless

they whip out another shock and awe trick at the united states, chances are

we'll just lend air support thats it.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:30 PM   #8
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I agree that there will have to be a false flag event to get approval from the masses. Not just a dispute over an oil well. Any chance the "Iranians" were not actually Iranian?


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Old 12-22-2009, 03:34 PM   #9
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The article below was posted on the Telegraph.uk.com in 2006. I would also recommend for those interested the book "Atomic Iran" by Jerome A Corsi.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ew-leader.html



As Iran rushes towards confrontation with the world over its nuclear programme, the question uppermost in the mind of western leaders is "What is moving its President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to such recklessness?"

Political analysts point to the fact that Iran feels strong because of high oil prices, while America has been weakened by the insurgency in Iraq.


But listen carefully to the utterances of Mr Ahmadinejad - recently described by President George W Bush as an "odd man" - and there is another dimension, a religious messianism that, some suspect, is giving the Iranian leader a dangerous sense of divine mission.

In November, the country was startled by a video showing Mr Ahmadinejad telling a cleric that he had felt the hand of God entrancing world leaders as he delivered a speech to the UN General Assembly last September.

When an aircraft crashed in Teheran last month, killing 108 people, Mr Ahmadinejad promised an investigation. But he also thanked the dead, saying: "What is important is that they have shown the way to martyrdom which we must follow."

The most remarkable aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's piety is his devotion to the Hidden Imam, the Messiah-like figure of Shia Islam, and the president's belief that his government must prepare the country for his return.

One of the first acts of Mr Ahmadinejad's government was to donate about £10 million to the Jamkaran mosque, a popular pilgrimage site where the pious come to drop messages to the Hidden Imam into a holy well.

All streams of Islam believe in a divine saviour, known as the Mahdi, who will appear at the End of Days. A common rumour - denied by the government but widely believed - is that Mr Ahmadinejad and his cabinet have signed a "contract" pledging themselves to work for the return of the Mahdi and sent it to Jamkaran.

Iran's dominant "Twelver" sect believes this will be Mohammed ibn Hasan, regarded as the 12th Imam, or righteous descendant of the Prophet Mohammad.

He is said to have gone into "occlusion" in the ninth century, at the age of five. His return will be preceded by cosmic chaos, war and bloodshed. After a cataclysmic confrontation with evil and darkness, the Mahdi will lead the world to an era of universal peace.

This is similar to the Christian vision of the Apocalypse. Indeed, the Hidden Imam is expected to return in the company of Jesus.

Mr Ahmadinejad appears to believe that these events are close at hand and that ordinary mortals can influence the divine timetable.

The prospect of such a man obtaining nuclear weapons is worrying. The unspoken question is this: is Mr Ahmadinejad now tempting a clash with the West because he feels safe in the belief of the imminent return of the Hidden Imam? Worse, might he be trying to provoke chaos in the hope of hastening his reappearance?

The 49-year-old Mr Ahmadinejad, a former top engineering student, member of the Revolutionary Guards and mayor of Teheran, overturned Iranian politics after unexpectedly winning last June's presidential elections.

The main rift is no longer between "reformists" and "hardliners", but between the clerical establishment and Mr Ahmadinejad's brand of revolutionary populism and superstition.

Its most remarkable manifestation came with Mr Ahmadinejad's international debut, his speech to the United Nations.

World leaders had expected a conciliatory proposal to defuse the nuclear crisis after Teheran had restarted another part of its nuclear programme in August.

Instead, they heard the president speak in apocalyptic terms of Iran struggling against an evil West that sought to promote "state terrorism", impose "the logic of the dark ages" and divide the world into "light and dark countries".

The speech ended with the messianic appeal to God to "hasten the emergence of your last repository, the Promised One, that perfect and pure human being, the one that will fill this world with justice and peace".

In a video distributed by an Iranian web site in November, Mr Ahmadinejad described how one of his Iranian colleagues had claimed to have seen a glow of light around the president as he began his speech to the UN.

"I felt it myself too," Mr Ahmadinejad recounts. "I felt that all of a sudden the atmosphere changed there. And for 27-28 minutes all the leaders did not blink…It's not an exaggeration, because I was looking.

"They were astonished, as if a hand held them there and made them sit. It had opened their eyes and ears for the message of the Islamic Republic."

Western officials said the real reason for any open-eyed stares from delegates was that "they couldn't believe what they were hearing from Ahmadinejad".

Their sneaking suspicion is that Iran's president actually relishes a clash with the West in the conviction that it would rekindle the spirit of the Islamic revolution and - who knows - speed up the arrival of the Hidden Imam.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:38 PM   #10
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Our own CIA says there is no evidence of nuclear weapons being developed. Iran froze the program in 2003 and has since gone towards nuclear energy. If Iran started the program today it would still take 6 to 8 years to develop a nuclear weapon.

Iran also has signed a few oil deals with Russia and China. China has a number of their state owned companies in Iran, and wouldn't be very happy if we bombed them. Going into Iran will trigger retaliation but economically and military wise.

Iran is no threat to the USA, they are no threat to anyone. The propganda coming out about nuclear weapons is admittedly false, people do not want another war...especially under Obama.

Honestly, in order for the PTB to get us into Iran there would have to be another false flag attack. And this time...it won't fool as many people.

The empires days are numbered. Thank god! This false economy, these false wars, can finally end and America will once again rise from the ashes that is till smoldering.

Doesn't matter ho much propaganda they put on the web or TV about Iran. It doesn't matter how badly Israel wants us to attack Iran. It doesn't matter how badly Exxon Mobil and BP want us to attack Iran either.

It's over! They lost. The moment people on a massive scale woke up and realized 9/11 was a false flag attack they lost. Obama was "appointed" to make it seem like things were changing, that the wars were ending and the evil Bush empire was ending. In fact Obama is a false flag. He's exactly like Bush.

But even their golden boy cannot stop the awakening that is happening. Rockerfeller wants to stop the internet, thinking that would stop the awakening. He doesn't get it. None of them do. I'm an "empathic." I cannot tell you what day it is half the time and I cannot balance my own checking account but I can tell the mood of the people.

The people are waking up on a grand scale. The tea parties are just the tip of the ice berg. Climategate is just the tip of the ice berg. We are waking up and seeing the real enemy is in DC.

The next false flag attack will make people re-examine 9/11 again. Not shock and awe us. Obama failed to sooth the awakening. Another false flag attack will only accelerate the movement. Marching into Iran will accelerate the movement.

The mass awakening is the realization that both republican and dems are corrupt and the only real change can happen through people like Ron Paul and the 3rd party. The mass awakening is political in nature. It's economic in nature. It's truth in nature.

I'm looking forward to the return of the homemaker, return of main street and good paying jobs. That will come under this awakening that I am sensing.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:51 PM   #11
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Our own CIA says there is no evidence of nuclear weapons being developed. Iran froze the program in 2003 and has since gone towards nuclear energy. If Iran started the program today it would still take 6 to 8 years to develop a nuclear weapon.

Iran also has signed a few oil deals with Russia and China. China has a number of their state owned companies in Iran, and wouldn't be very happy if we bombed them. Going into Iran will trigger retaliation but economically and military wise.

Iran is no threat to the USA, they are no threat to anyone. The propganda coming out about nuclear weapons is admittedly false, people do not want another war...especially under Obama.

Honestly, in order for the PTB to get us into Iran there would have to be another false flag attack. And this time...it won't fool as many people.

The empires days are numbered. Thank god! This false economy, these false wars, can finally end and America will once again rise from the ashes that is till smoldering.

Doesn't matter ho much propaganda they put on the web or TV about Iran. It doesn't matter how badly Israel wants us to attack Iran. It doesn't matter how badly Exxon Mobil and BP want us to attack Iran either.

It's over! They lost. The moment people on a massive scale woke up and realized 9/11 was a false flag attack they lost. Obama was "appointed" to make it seem like things were changing, that the wars were ending and the evil Bush empire was ending. In fact Obama is a false flag. He's exactly like Bush.

But even their golden boy cannot stop the awakening that is happening. Rockerfeller wants to stop the internet, thinking that would stop the awakening. He doesn't get it. None of them do. I'm an "empathic." I cannot tell you what day it is half the time and I cannot balance my own checking account but I can tell the mood of the people.

The people are waking up on a grand scale. The tea parties are just the tip of the ice berg. Climategate is just the tip of the ice berg. We are waking up and seeing the real enemy is in DC.

The next false flag attack will make people re-examine 9/11 again. Not shock and awe us. Obama failed to sooth the awakening. Another false flag attack will only accelerate the movement. Marching into Iran will accelerate the movement.

The mass awakening is the realization that both republican and dems are corrupt and the only real change can happen through people like Ron Paul and the 3rd party. The mass awakening is political in nature. It's economic in nature. It's truth in nature.

I'm looking forward to the return of the homemaker, return of main street and good paying jobs. That will come under this awakening that I am sensing.
I believe your right on about this. It's not a matter of preventing the

awakening, that's gonna happen no matter what. It is know about trying

to prolong the awakening from happening as long as possible, because they

know once this movement picks up speed there's no stopping it. That is also

why i have trouble believing there gonna disclose anything major. It would

just add fuel to the fire.
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:01 PM   #12
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I believe your right on about this. It's not a matter of preventing the

awakening, that's gonna happen no matter what. It is know about trying

to prolong the awakening from happening as long as possible, because they

know once this movement picks up speed there's no stopping it. That is also

why i have trouble believing there gonna disclose anything major. It would

just add fuel to the fire.

I agree with you but I also think war is all they know and want.


The war is to get there to open the portals and saving their own butts.

its all part of their "big plan" . They screwed up and we are winning and they will be gone and powerless. Send them off to another planet to play their war games
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I agree with you but I also think war is all they know and want.


The war is to get there to open the portals and saving their own butts.

its all part of their "big plan" . They screwed up and we are winning and they will be gone and powerless. Send them off to another planet to play their war games
Haha it's funny you say send them to there own planet, because that's

exactly what so many ascension teachers are saying will happen, because

a part of the human race are ready to evolve and those who aren't will

continue school here while the others ascend to higher levels.
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:30 PM   #14
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So....are they palnning to orchestrate another 9/11 to justify their move? Nobody will buy it....so i guess they have to come out with a more clever reason....
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So....are they palnning to orchestrate another 9/11 to justify their move? Nobody will buy it....so i guess they have to come out with a more clever reason....
Oh.. You'll be surprised how many will still buy it. SOOOO many "patriots" out there.
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Oh.. You'll be surprised how many will still buy it. SOOOO many "patriots" out there.
it looks like I am overestimating....
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:37 PM   #17
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Yea there may be a large number of people who buy it, but at the

same time theres a large number who don't. Either way it's gonna take some

thing more than another 9/11 to get us up in arms, to go invading every control

were told hates us. Remember were in two wars and right know the mood is

F^&* war. At a similar note these people are smart, so i am sure they are

more than capable of concocting something, If they became desperate enough.
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Any Iranians, Iraqi's or Afghanistan civilians in the forum that may be so kind as to enlighten us Americans as to what is REALLY going on in your country?

Is there a open source website that we can go to and see your home videos of the lies we are being told?

Let's circumvent our governments propaganda filled news 'entertainers' like CNN and Fox and get the REAL story. Hmmm?
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To be honest,

There are huge masses that doubt the official 9/11 story, more and more every day. Yet it seems to me that it's business as usual.

There are loads of people that know in their heart that the global warming business is a fraud business. A political moneymaker. Still, there is not really much going on there either. Business as usual.

So even though large amounts would not buy a new false flag attack on the USA, I see no reason for a large amount of people trying to stop the madness once and for all.
People know, but don't care. Most of the ones I know believes 9/11 was orchestrated, they do not believe in the climate change version we are being served and a number of other things...but the common reply is: We don't care

I believe people have been numbed down and lost the will to care about these things. It will only happen in pure desperation when it happens to them directly.
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US Admiral Michael Mullen needs to consider his duty under the US Constitution and behave accordingly.
These such Men have much to balance...sigh

IMHO..

War is a symptom of a far darker disease that any other.

War is never welcome...but often called upon.

One might be surprised to know that Love..is not the key component to "healing " War.


The disease is unbalance...the only way to regain balance...is through chaos first.

War...tries to do this.

Either side, using a variety of strategies... can only ever, reach balance..or face failure...

Any side that has tried to use War to create unbalance (power struggles) is doomed to failure in the end.


Love is a tool in that balance...but... War...like Anger... is an integral part of the human equation...


On a grand scale.....

We as humans are failing at restoring balance...till then...children will suffer... mothers will cry ..and soldiers will die.
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To be honest,

There are huge masses that doubt the official 9/11 story, more and more every day. Yet it seems to me that it's business as usual.

There are loads of people that know in their heart that the global warming business is a fraud business. A political moneymaker. Still, there is not really much going on there either. Business as usual.

So even though large amounts would not buy a new false flag attack on the USA, I see no reason for a large amount of people trying to stop the madness once and for all.
People know, but don't care. Most of the ones I know believes 9/11 was orchestrated, they do not believe in the climate change version we are being served and a number of other things...but the common reply is: We don't care

I believe people have been numbed down and lost the will to care about these things. It will only happen in pure desperation when it happens to them directly.
I still believe it is a lack of that "100th monkey". Not enough of aware people. Many of those that do believe that WTC demolition was done by various secret services don't care about going deeper into the "rabbit hole" and looking for possible real reasons for such terrible events, or taking the blinds off and looking in the grey sky with many airplanes in it leaving those interesting trails behind them. They are in pursuit of happiness- Legal Tender. So as many on this forum said this financial meltdown is actually a blessing for humanity. The desperation could very well be a medicine (a very bitter with bad side effects) that will get many people out of coma and they will start caring about what they are being manipulated into by some very clever but loveless entities. All we can do is pretty much talk to others and make them aware and maybe one of us here will find that 100th monkey somewhere.
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Tehran, Dec. 22, 09 (Hamsayeh.Net) - The US government says it is now ready to expand wars to other nations and regions around the world.



US Admiral Michael Mullen said yesterday, the military under his command is fully ready to attack Iran militarily upon the presidential order. Mullen said it was necessary that in this case the threat of launching a military attack to run alongside any negotiations with Tehran.

http://hamsayeh.net/hamsayehnet_iran...%20news681.htm

Just found this report of a suspected false flag operation to start war with Iran

Israel Mossad False Flag Operation to frame Iran

http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=6735
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