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11-04-2008, 03:09 PM | #1 |
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Discerning Alien Disinformation
This will be my last posting here,
If anybody is interested to read this: http://montalk.net/alien/145/discern...rmation-part-1 http://montalk.net/alien/146/discern...rmation-part-2 http://montalk.net/alien/147/discern...rmation-part-3 http://montalk.net/alien/148/discern...rmation-part-4 From my point of view people here (that includes Bill and Kerry) are far too gullible. It costs too much energy to separate the wheat from the chaff that is posted here. Many of the Project Camelot whistleblowers are scam artists and/or (knowingly or not) disinfo agents. Time is too precious to waste it. Good bye ! |
11-04-2008, 06:17 PM | #2 |
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already read this
and the conclusion that this leaves you with is that nothing... none of it, is real it debunks every source or type of information out there and anyone who doesn't get their news from CNN is a fool it has no positive information at all, it debunks everything and doesn't do a thing to help you figure out the truth from the lies because it paints it ALL as lies it is as if someone studied every bit of alien conspiracy and then wrote an essay on how none of it could be real as it does not talk at all on what to believe, only what NOT to believe So I disagree, this isn't a lesson in discernment, this is a lesson in being close minded I found it poor and unbalanced and does nothing but create doubt and it is no wonder you feel that everyone is a fool yet....I always accept the fact that I could be wrong as well as the fact that others might find this info useful because truth is subjective |
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--- People SHOULD take a look at the above links = VERY GOOD info. ---- salute. |
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The very first sentence states that in less than ten years we will meet the aliens. Nobody knows this. It could be true or it could not be true, but the fact is that for all the intriguing evidence there is no proof anywhere that they actually exist. Therefore I think that to spend much time listening to people talk about them is absurd. |
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Don't get me wrong he doesn't come out and attack anything overtly. You can simply tell by the language he uses that he is firmly a non believer and was not very balanced at all. I am not saying this site is "for sure" designed to lead you down a wrong path because I dont believe in wrong paths, but I did want to post a warning that I felt should be made. His methods could be unintentional or a deliberate subtleness in his choice of words that steer the mind towards a mindset. It alarmed me is all. To see my point on this go and read every "Strength of Vector" and "Strength of Source" (the only two positive potentials) alone without reading any of the other stuff and you will see a bias towards unbelievability. And these are supposed to be the positive "strengths". it is no surprise that realist posted these links as an accompaniment to his statement: "From my point of view people here (that includes Bill and Kerry) are far too gullible." To me these links he gave were meant to be supportive of this statement and that should tell you something of the material in a Freudian way at least. The worst part of it was "Deciphering the Core Deception", this is where most of the (my own perceived) manipulation occurred. Example: Quote:
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The problem here is that we are attemting to feel secure in our world. The leaders of the world started out not telling us anything to keep us at peace. As long as our world made sence and the troubles that we face are knowable we are content and happy people.
The moment we know that the whole universe is at our door step and anything could land here and take away our peace of mind, all the towns people would march in the streets and jump off buildings and cats and dogs would live together and you get the idea. Here is the new problem, most of us know that something is out there and visiting us and now the unknowen is making us nervouse. People tend to hate the unknowen, and fear it... We see it here everyday, the earth is going to suck us all in and swallow us up, or George is going to bomb everyone into a nuclear winter or something else. The truth is until "we the PEOPLE" take control of our Gov. and come clean with all the dirty little secrets and put into place safeguards to keep us feeling safe, this will go on and on. We need to know that we are part of a community that will keep us free and safe to live and explore who we are and what that means. We all know that something has been kept from us for a long time and we must know what it is, I mean a full accounting of every event and the lies surrounding it. Until this happens The people will be on edge and think up all sorts of things. Be at peace |
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Hmm, probably from the sound of it. The article never named any names but only goes after ideas, which is good I guess. Like it didn't say, "Dan Burisch is a disinformer, and that's all you need to know" but instead took the route of "here is what's being said about Grays and Nordics, and here are my reasons for why I think this is false" and if Dan Burisch happens to be the one who said those things, then if the shoe fits... |
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11-05-2008, 03:28 AM | #9 |
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you make good points and I fully respect that even though I think you misinterpreted some of my statements, that is probably my fault for not expressing them with clarity, as I was in a rush I still do not think this is a good site to go and learn real discernment from due to a lack of balance as some of the material is not displayed in a neutral stance and to me, seems to have a spin yet after thinking on it, I still believe people should go and read it and decide for themselves and I am sure that either way, knowledge will be gained I also admit I am taking an alarmist position on this, so I will back off as I feel I have already made my point and any further criticism would simply be argumentative at best I found the site interesting and provocative and a little mis-leading in some places but that is entirely subjective peace |
11-05-2008, 03:39 AM | #10 |
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Okay cool, sorry if I misunderstood anything you were saying. Yeah it's best that everyone make up their own mind when they read it. So far it's been a "love it or hate it" kind of piece. Some really enjoy it, others have gotten a bit turned off. Which makes reading the article itself an exercise in discernment
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11-05-2008, 03:44 AM | #11 |
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So the gist of this whole argument is that someone wrote an article stating that they have read all this material and came to the conclusion that it all must be fake?
I have several problems with this, I wont list them all, in fact I will only list 1. Out of the trillions of galaxies in all of the universe, life only exists on our planet? you have to be kidding me! Sure some things are disinformation, yes not everyone agrees but we are all learning. we never stop learning. I totally disagree with the premise of this thread, it is all based upon someone's conclusion after digesting all information. -34 |
11-05-2008, 04:41 AM | #12 |
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from what little i know about tom montalk, he is certainly not a non-believer as such, and has had first-hand experience with et/ut. hes not saying there are no et/ut's or there is no disinfo. imo hes saying that perhaps we should all look at our own experiences, and the things we read and take for granted because they gel with our own ideas, a little more carefully.
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Well said. Thank you. and Montalk is one of the select few that ppl should take seriously. He does know his stuff. Very well. Last edited by Orion11; 11-05-2008 at 04:49 AM. |
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11-05-2008, 01:31 PM | #14 |
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This is a great lecture about ehhhh mmmmm
Teutonics nights, Financiers of the second world war, Satanists, NAZI technologies including UFOS and how it comes to America!, etc. etc. http://video.google.es/videoplay?doc...Martin+chldren Cheers! |
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montalk has some good points, some bad points, etc. You know. In this life there is none to be trusted about issues like this one, but perspectives to be aware of.
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When will people learn that ET are in charge of this planet and no one else there are renegade ET and good ET the good ET have been trying to rid this planet of bad ET for thousands of years the very same ones that have kept us in ignorance for millenia they dont want us to know who we really are?The roswell crashes where staged by friendly ET to give man the technology so that we can advance, dont let the scare-mongering worry you that's the idea, fear is there greatest weapon they dont wish to destroy us, just control us with religion and a dummbed down **** education so that we can stay stupid for ever in this life.Well not me bud because i'am onto them.Look at all them craters on the moon there was a clean-up war going on,I also believe that we did land on the moon.But because of what was seen by the astronaut's they then had to create a phony landing in a studio,How else could they explain those big ships sitting there watch the interview with the three astronauts Aldri Armstrong cooper it is the most awkward interview that you are likely to see about three men who should have been excited but i think you will agree they are anything but.
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In 1972 my first wife and I had a very bizarre experience while camping in a remote area of desert in southern CA. Neither of us remembered much about it afterward, which was strange. It involved a very bright light shining down on the tent in the middle of the night, and it wasn't a helicopter. All these years later, if it wasn't a UFO then I have no explanation. I can't think of anything BUT a UFO that would explain what happened that night. So I do believe they exist, and I may even have seen them, I don't know. I guess it would take a hypnotist to bring back that memory. However, just because I can't offer an explanation doesn't mean that no explanation exists. I do not have proof. This is a topic I've researched for many years, and I have not yet seen PROOF. I have seen and photographed flying objects that I could not identify...but that does not make them alien craft. I have seen assertions galore. I have seen hundreds of photos that may or may not have been phony. Everyone seems to have an axe to grind here; I do not. I'd love to see the UFOs land. But in the absence of proof, I prefer to deal with real problems. The aliens - if they exist - are irrelevant to the problems we face in the here and now. |
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