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Old 02-09-2009, 02:20 AM   #1
JesterTerrestrial
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Default 9+ States have now declared sovereignty

9+ States have now declared sovereignty, now add Washington to the
list.

In case you didn't hear about it on the mainstream media (which you
haven't because they want to keep us asleep), numerous states are
currently declaring or have already declared sovereignty, including:

Washington
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summ...2009&bill=4009

New Hampshire
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legi...9/HCR0006.html

Arizona
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?
inDoc=/legtext/49leg/1r/bills/hcr2024p.htm

Montana
http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2009/billhtml/HB0246.htm

Michigan
http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?2009-HCR-0004

Missouri
http://www.house.mo.gov/content.aspx...ills/HR212.HTM

Oklahoma
http://axiomamuse.wordpress.com/2009...lator-charles-
key-wants-to-limit-federal-power

California
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/93-94/bill/sen/sb_0001-
0050/sjr_44_bill_940829_chaptered

Georgia
http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/1...text/sr308.htm

Possibly: Colorado, Hawaii, Pennsylvania, Montana, Arkansas, Idaho,
Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine, Illinois

It is interesting to note that Arizona explicitly speaks about
continuity of government and the role of servicemen.

.."if the President or any other federal entity attempts to institute
martial law or its equivalent without an official declaration in one
or more of the states without the consent of that state ...
individual members of the military return to their respective states
and report to the Governor until a new President is elected;..."

Full text: http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?
inDoc=/legtext/49leg/1r/bills/hcr2024p.htm

"The Tenth Amendment was intended to confirm the understanding of the
people at the time the Constitution was adopted, that powers not
granted to the United States were reserved to the States or to the
people. It added nothing to the instrument as originally ratified." --
United States v. Sprague, 282 U.S. 716, 733 (1931).

Audio/Video Clip: Ron Paul on the Obama's probable future for US
sovereignty:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?
q=sovereignty&hl=en&emb=1&aq=f#q=sovereignty+obama &hl=en&emb=1

The American Form of Government DVD/Video - JBS Oldie but goody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE

For those unaware, the GOP and the Democrats are playing good cop -
bad cop on the American people. The two political parties work
direcly for the international banking cartel currently working very
hard to destroy the dollar, bring about a collapse of the economy,
then offering a solution to the crisis to the American people by
erasing our soveriegnty, creating a regional (multi-country) currency
and signing on to robust international treaties which undermine and
render the US Constitution dead.

They use terrorism and economic crisis to prompt the American people
to acquiesce to demands. By creating fear and a general sense of
helplessness the public curls up and takes it. Sometimes the truth
comes out in humor, the public laughs and continues to take it.
Sometimes it comes out in public but the corporate news media refuses
to investigate the truth and the media no longer serves the public
interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSk4SUpWVuY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJZw9psqbBw

The cure will be seen by the masses as a 'lesser of two evil'
solution to the crisis they themselves engineered. The Council on
Foreign Relations, the United Nations, the World Bank, Federal
Reserve, Internal Revenue Service, the Department of Homeland
Security, the Conservative Underground, NeoConservatives (NeoCons),
the CIA and countless other think tanks, corporate powers/laws,
standing armies, etc are the enemies of liberty. They are you
guaranteed oppressors who enslave you by incremental alterations in
the fabric of law, society and culture.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?
docid=6632255652046262625&ei=7XiKSfSkCoL8rgLXuIHGC w&q=cfr&hl=en

Do not forget, security of the nation does not equal patriotism,
rather defending freedom and an individuals liberty is patriotism.
The Redcoats and many of the first colonists were loyal to King
George. They were known as Loyalists. Those that espoused liberty,
taxation with representation and the formation of a new Republic, the
signers of the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution
were not Loyalists, they were known as Patriots..

And so it is today that we find ourselves at the same juncture, a
continuation of the revolution that began so long ago. Be you Loyal
to the Government or be you a defender of the Constitution, for they
are not synonymous. There is no left and right, there is no longer a
difference between the actions a Democrat and a Republican and
absolutely there is not such thing as a liberal or a conservative.

There are only Loyalists or Patriots. Choose.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:57 AM   #2
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Default Re: 9+ States have now declared sovereignty

Please can you explain to a non-American with gaps in this area of education what this actually means.

Thanks

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Old 02-09-2009, 08:42 AM   #3
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Default Re: 9+ States have now declared sovereignty

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kathleen View Post
Hello JT~

This link's not working...


"Audio/Video Clip: Ron Paul on the Obama's probable future for US
sovereignty:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?
q=sovereignty&hl=en&emb=1&aq=f#q=sovereignty+obama &hl=en&emb=1"
Try this one.

There were a few bad links in there. The link for California doesn't work, and a couple others too. This is indeed interesting. Beginning of the end, Anchor.
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:53 AM   #4
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Default Re: 9+ States have now declared sovereignty

The way I understand it is that it provides checks and balances in the execution of power between the individual states and the federal government.

Were martial law to be declared by the president of the USA without the consent of individual states, there is a provision in the US Constitution that allows an individual state to declare its independence from the federal government and to withdraw its own military back within its own borders and use them to defend their own citizens against arbitrary use of force by the federal government. They may demand the election of a new president.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:01 AM   #5
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Default Re: 9+ States have now declared sovereignty

Or the US splits up into different 'countries', each with autonomous economies.
Seems to me I recall someone saying something about that...don't remember who it was.
Anyone?
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:06 AM   #6
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Default Re: 9+ States have now declared sovereignty

That would be all fine and dandy only if the Feds actually recognized the Constitution (which they don't seem to).
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:10 AM   #7
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Default Re: 9+ States have now declared sovereignty

There are several sources predicting that an end result will be a USA split in 5 different parts. At least one map has been published on Avalon showing the new divisions and explaining the political affiliation each of these parts will have.
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:06 PM   #8
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Default Re: 9+ States have now declared sovereignty

The states are sending smoke signals to Washington. But, our governor just asked for 40 billion from the latest bailout heist. I have seen the map where they divided the states into 5 parts.

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Old 02-10-2009, 02:09 AM   #9
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That would be all fine and dandy only if the Feds actually recognized the Constitution (which they don't seem to).
Humble,

You took the words right out of my fingertips!
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Old 02-10-2009, 02:23 AM   #10
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Default Re: 9+ States have now declared sovereignty

I'm surprised that Vermont hasn't joined up with the other states.

Also, I saw the map where the US is split up and now I think that it wouldn't be such a bad thing because this country can never agree on anything. Too much partisan ********. I also think that the entire South should split up into their own country, Jesusland, where they can have their little country run by religious law (much like the countries that are under Islamic Law).
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