Mind blowing speech by Robert Welch in 1958 predicting Insiders plans to destroy Amer

[TruthWillSetUFree]

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Proof that the NEW WORLD ORDER has been planned by the elite. Robert Welch, Founder of The John Birch Society, predicted today's problems with uncanny accuracy back in 1958 and prescribed solutions in 1974 that are very similar to Ron Paul's positions today. This is proof that there are plans in place by the elite to systemically disassemble US sovereignty. I wonder who those elite are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZU0c8DAIU4&NR=1


My question is why didn't we do anything back in the 1950's?

[mntruthseeker]

Did you ever stop and think that they already had this planned at that time?

In fact when I hear these speaches, the first thing I do is check the dates.

I seen a very old video of Hillary Clinton recieving a triangular trophy from walter Cronkite who was also very much involved.


I think about it all the time. How long were we under their spell?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inu9vKXsrFA


NWO was once World Federalist movement and it first started up in 1937

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Federalist_Movement

[Unified Serenity]

Many tried to do things; however, you must realize that the media and education systems were already being taken over. It was move a little forward inch back, move a little forward, inch back for many years by the socialist / communists who set up various foundations and movements.

Those who spoke openly about a "communist plot" now NWO plot were demonized. Capitalists were ridiculed and called Nazi's. As they, the communists, grew in power and funding they protested aggressively and continued to influence the upcoming generation via music, movies, and books. The communists said if they could get one generation then they could take over and complete their NWO plans.

They used the ideals of many (often young and idealistic) for a utopian society where everyone is equal and no one lacks for anything. The facts of what happened in those systems were not focused upon, and many falsely believe that they can do it better. The problem is that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, thus there will always be some more equal than others and the system falls apart. I say "always" because I do not see the true spiritual enlightenment of leaders who are willing to live under the same system and laws they foist upon the population.

That is why they were not stopped. We still have a chance, but many youth are trained in this public education state run system and do not know how to think independently. They do not know real history. They do not know what real freedom is, so now they do not even know what to fight for.

[mntruthseeker]

And who would ever believed that we would be sitting here today talking about the horrific plan that they have planned for us?

I remember everything changing in the school I attended. I couldnt figure out why one day we were being taught Mythogoly and the next day it was taboo.

It does make me wonder how much they knew

I shudder when I hear the john birch society now a days.

[mntruthseeker]

yes, exactly. that is why I question what was really known by these men and I'm positive when they came out with this they were immediately shut up in one way or another.

I have been viewing videos lately, alot are coming out and a person can spend every waking minute and still not see them all!!!

It is speeding up and Im sure it's because so many are awake and willing to work as hard as possible to stop this madness.

What comes over me is the thought that this whole thing just got so far our of hand. They thought they were in control and suddenly find out the rules have changed.

[Unified Serenity]

JFK signed a treaty that has 3 stages to it. It may be read in the State Department publication7277. Each stage is designed to further disarm the United States and give more power to the United Nations. Stage 3 is the complete disarmarment of the people and only police and the military may use firearms.

The idea was to make it so no nation could go to war, and only the United Nations could correct a nation through a world military. It just depends on what the goals of the United Nations are and what they enforce. There would be no independent countries doing as they please.

This web page is interesting.

Excerpt from the page, "Public Law 87-297 is further explained in the State Department Document called Publication 7277. Your librarian can also furnish you a copy. Also ask the librarian to get you a copy of "The Blue Print for the Peace Race." It is a 35-page booklet printed by the United States Arms Control and Disarmament Agency as Publication No. 4 - General Series 3 - Released May of 1962. Publication No. 4 is the unabridged version of State Department Document 7277.

Both of these booklets explain how our military is to be reduced to 2.1 million men. China and the Soviets are to be reduced to that level also. At this point, we are at Stage I at which time we are to transfer (on a permanent basis) one-half of our armed forces to be merged with the Russian and Chinese armies. In Stage II, the remaining one-half of our armed forces is then turned over to this same Security Council of the United Nations. The person in charge of the merged armies must, by agreement, always be a Russian. The world's smaller nations turn 100% of their armies over to the same under-secretary of the Security, Council in Stage II. President George Bush and Admiral Wm. J. Crowe [have referred] to this process as being "in transition."

TURN TO PAGE 655. On this page in Volume 9 of the United States Code, read "Policy Formation." The directives there (written in 1963 to pacify objectors) are supposedly to restrain anyone from disarmament, reducing or limiting our armaments, or taking guns away from the people unless it is pursuant to the treaty-making power of the president, or if it is authorized by further legislation by the Congress. (This is title 22, Section 2573.) "

Also read:

http://unitedstates.fm/UnitedNations.htm

State Department publication 7277

http://www.mikenew.com/pub7277.html

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Is that why so many actors/actresses were blacklisted back then? Because they were standing up against the NWO? Wow! So then they called them Nazi or communist and today they call the patriots terrorists.


They have taken over every religion, new age spirituality teachings, or many of them anyway, T.V. the Media, schools everything.

I just have to ask one thing, what if there is no transformation coming for us to the 5th dimension, what if this was also made up to give us some kind of false hope?

I don't mean to be negative, but it dawned on me since they have fooled us and lied to us on everything else, what if we are being mislead on that as well?


Thanks for all your well thought out comments you are both so right on track!

[mntruthseeker]

amazing read.......we already had bases on mars at this according to some of the videos out there. I know that during this time there were nuclears that were "defused" and our government was already in a world of trouble for the treaty they had agreed upon that was "out of control"

I did see something up there that really blows my mind and my thoughts are swimming now. The one world religion and the worshiping of Gaia


UN plans call for replacing all Christian based religions with a one world religion based on the Gaia hypothesis, the paganistic worship of "mother earth" having its origin and roots in The Temple of Understanding. (Ref: UN Millennium Peace Summit of Religious and Spiritual Leaders, Aug. 28-31, 2000, New York)


I love Jesus and I do believe in him.

[Christo888]

Truth,US, seeker... a great thread and something to really hone in on!!! Ya what to do to interrupt this long planned march that has steamrolled over the mass mind?

Dissecting the 'Handbook' into understanding took me quite awhile but the parts that have held up in the litmus test of solutions has become eyeopening and 'US' hit on it. It is going to be about individual self-empowerment, which stems out of self-awareness, and requires personal responsibility!

What we surely do not need in the future is ANY form of hierarchy or leaderships that desire to lead or have reign over another. Moving as many as possible into the idea of the awareness of sovereignty as a creator being in progress I surmise as KEY.

Understanding the definitions of victimhood, rescuer/hero, and abuser will provide much insight in what not to allow to creep back into society, as well as the definitions of darkside and lightside polarity behavior.

Application, of the 4 laws mentioned in the 'Handbook,' into action takes a lot of practice and trial and error learning but the nuances of how they work together begin to show after some practice to get the hang of it.

A side note- with an apology to all you 'Law of One' believers that STO and STS is a solution... it is not, and this certainly does not pass the litmus test for personal responsibility, self-empowerment, and self-awareness. This campaign is just another form of judging the actions of someone into a category and has the similar traits of belief that the framework of the campaign towards good vs evil... However certainly actions of one may be looked at as self oriented or selfless oriented but that does not mean you or anyone on this planet knows the motive behind the actions of any individual within their own experiences!

Back to the point about insiders trying to destroy America... as long as enough individuals begin to operate from a standpoint of not giving away their power to anyone, anything, or any entity some headway can be gained in removing this dark plan by control STS freaks.

The STO and STS campaigns appear to be quite solidified in those of either side but moving all the STS over to STO will not empower, enrich, and progress individuals into creator beings because the categorizing lacks the personal responsibility of cause/effect of ones own actions!!!

Put the Oxygen mask on your own face first before you help the passenger sitting next to you with theirs. Otherwise they both become needy and panicky and now someone else will have to come and rescue them... and so on!

Maybe we will run out of time before this IDEA becomes instilled in enough people but maybe there really is a 'Quicksilver' in the midst!

[TruthWillSetUFree]

yes I read that too about worshiping Gaia, sounds like new age spirituality, again just like many people thinking they are getting involved with something for the good of humanity, even being compartmentalized, when really they are being programmed to follow the NWO agenda....insidious

[Unified Serenity]

Yes, it is very interesting how so many in the disclosure movement fall in line with the ideology of the Gaia movement. It would make sense to have us so ready to go out of this world into the 5th dimension that we do not do anything constructive to change this ongoing march towards the NWO.

I have struggled with the issue of who was Jesus. I have studied the stories which show how Horus mythology imitates Jesus life and ministry/mystic beliefs as well as others who apparently came before him who have a similar story.

I believe in the message of Jesus. I do not like the Male God patriarchal system that has been used for thousands of years which continues to laud the power of men over women etc.. There are other threads on this topic and I don't want to go further as it might ruin this thread.

As for the problem in the Hollywood set being black listed, a lot of them were into this nwo communist ideal. Many writers were blacklisted because of their memberships in communist organizations. Remember, movies and tv are powerful mediums to indoctrinate people and change perceptions.

I will also say there is a group who claim to be Jews who are not, and it is my firm belief from much study of the ancient texts that they joined the house of Judah a long time ago, and Jesus revealed who they were openly and that is what got him killed. It is well hidden in the bible, but if you know what to look for it is there as plain as day.

[mntruthseeker]

the last three postings in here were extraordinary and mean so much to me.

I appreciate it and I will look for the other threads on all of this.

I do not want to take away from this thread and I think it was an excellent one, thanks for putting it up Truthwillsetyoufree for putting it up here

[Unified Serenity]

Originally Posted by Christo888

Maybe we will run out of time before this IDEA becomes instilled in enough people but maybe there really is a 'Quicksilver' in the midst!

Great post Christo. I really like the idea of radiant zones where everyone works together and has equal say and access to what they need. Maybe in forming these zones we can work in our own way in freedom and not needing the government to do anything for us. For many communities to arise and work together, providing our own needs, and selling to others or trading with others will be part of this work.

I am very interested in leaving the "system" as it were and it's old paradigms. I'm just trying to find out where I am supposed to be. I love TtC's work, and am enjoying sharing in that community. I think he is onto something.

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

Yes, it is very interesting how so many in the disclosure movement fall in line with the ideology of the Gaia movement. It would make sense to have us so ready to go out of this world into the 5th dimension that we do not do anything constructive to change this ongoing march towards the NWO.

I have struggled with the issue of who was Jesus. I have studied the stories which show how Horus mythology imitates Jesus life and ministry/mystic beliefs as well as others who apparently came before him who have a similar story.

I believe in the message of Jesus. I do not like the Male God patriarchal system that has been used for thousands of years which continues to laud the power of men over women etc.. There are other threads on this topic and I don't want to go further as it might ruin this thread.

As for the problem in the Hollywood set being black listed, a lot of them were into this nwo communist ideal. Many writers were blacklisted because of their memberships in communist organizations. Remember, movies and tv are powerful mediums to indoctrinate people and change perceptions.

I will also say there is a group who claim to be Jews who are not, and it is my firm belief from much study of the ancient texts that they joined the house of Judah a long time ago, and Jesus revealed who they were openly and that is what got him killed. It is well hidden in the bible, but if you know what to look for it is there as plain as day.

I believe in Jesus's message too but I think they made him into something he wasn't and glorified him which he did not want I believe he came to speak the Truth about love, karma, reincarnation etc but many of these teachings were taken out of the bible called the apocrapha-that is spelled wrong, wish we had spell check. They took so many of his teachings out or changed them around.

Do you mean the zionist jews Unified Serenity? Could you share what parts of the bible to look for more information? Or even PM me?

This is such a wonderful discussion, unfortunately time for bed as I work early tomorrow.

I will look forward to reading additional posts in the morning.

Much love to all........good night
Truth

[Unified Serenity]

OK, this post can be moved to a new thread in spirituality if needed, but I hope a link is left here.

I know many discount the bible, especially the OT, but I find many gems therein.

This should shine some light:

Genesis 4:10-12

10The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. 11Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.”

So Cain cannot grow food and he is a nomad (tent dweller).

Here is 1chr 2:55

55 and the clans of scribes who lived at Jabez: the Tirathites, Shimeathites and Sucathites. These are the Kenites who came from Hammath, the father of the house of Recab.

Now see Jeremiah 35:1 (read the whole chapter though after reading the curse put upon Cain and look up the meaning of Kenite)

1This is the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord during the reign of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah: 2“Go to the Recabite family and invite them to come to one of the side rooms of the house of the Lord and give them wine to drink.”

Keep reading and see what they do in regards to drinking wine and how they live. Oh, they are VERY obedient to their father. Then note verses 6-11:

6But they replied, “We do not drink wine, because our forefather Jonadab son of Recab gave us this command: ‘Neither you nor your descendants must ever drink wine. 7Also you must never build houses, sow seed or plant vineyards; you must never have any of these things, but must always live in tents. Then you will live a long time in the land where you are nomads.’ 8We have obeyed everything our forefather Jonadab son of Recab commanded us. Neither we nor our wives nor our sons and daughters have ever drunk wine 9or built houses to live in or had vineyards, fields or crops. 10We have lived in tents and have fully obeyed everything our forefather Jonadab commanded us. 11But when Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon invaded this land, we said, ‘Come, we must go to Jerusalem to escape the Babyloniana and Aramean armies.’ So we have remained in Jerusalem.”

HINT: Jerusalem is in Judea. I wonder what they called people who lived in Judea?

Matthew chapter 23:29-36

29“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!

33“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.


Gee, who killed Abel? Cain, the Kenite killed Abel and he is their forefather, and look at his curse again!

John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


If you think that was all figurative, you miss the whole plot. There is a negative side of prophesy and the Kenites fulfill it. Many talk of the NWO trying to bring about the biblical Armageddon, well maybe they have to. Maybe they are driven to it, and in so doing are many lessons to be learned.

There is much more to this study, but these are the basics.

[TruthWillSetUFree]

This is fascinating information unified serenity! When I get home from work I will read the passage you suggested. I'm sure I will have more questions.

Where would I find additional information about this?

[orthodoxymoron]

That speech was amazing! This thread is exceptional. Unified Serenity...you have some very interesting posts!

Here is a video of Norman Dodd which is extremely revealing regarding plans to subvert and even destroy America:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYCBfmIcHM

[Unified Serenity]

Awesome post ODM! Here is an excerpt from the interview:

ED GRIFFIN: Mr. Dodd, you have spoken before about some interesting things that were discovered by Katherine Casey at the Carnegie Endowment. Can you tell us that story, please?

NORMAN DODD: Yes, I’d be glad to, Mr. Griffin. This experience that you just referred to came about in response to a letter that I had written to the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, asking certain questions and gathering certain information. On the arrival of that letter, Dr. Johnson, who was then president of the Carnegie Endowment, telephoned me and said, did I ever come up to New York. I said yes, I did more or less each weekend, and he said, “Well, when you're next here, will you drop in and see us?” Which I did.
On arrival at the office of the endowment I found myself in the presence of Dr. Joseph Johnson, the president – who was the successor to Alger Hiss – two vice presidents, and their own counsel, a partner in the firm of Sullivan and Cromwell. Dr. Johnson said, after again amenities, Mr. Dodd, we have your letter. We can answer all those questions, but it would be a great deal of trouble, and we have a counter suggestion. Our counter suggestion is: If you can spare a member of your staff for two weeks and send that member up to New York, we will give to that member a room in the library and the minute books of this foundation since its inception, and we think that whatever you want to find out or that Congress wants to find out will be obvious from those minutes.
Well, my first reaction was they'd lost their minds. I had a pretty good idea of what those minutes would contain, but I realized that Dr. Johnson had only been in office two years, and the other vice presidents were relatively young men, and counsel seemed to be also a young man, and I guessed that probably they'd never read the minutes themselves. So I said I had somebody; I would accept their offer.
I went back to Washington and I selected a member of my staff who had been a practicing attorney in Washington. She was on my staff to see to it that I didn't break any congressional procedures or rules, in addition to which she was unsympathetic to the purpose of the investigation. She was level-headed and a very reasonably brilliant, capable lady. Her attitude toward the investigation was: What could possibly be wrong with foundations? They do so much good.
Well, in the face of that sincere conviction of Katherine's I went out of my way not to prejudice her in any way, but I did explain to her that she couldn't possibly cover 50 years of written minutes in two weeks, so she would have to do what we call spot reading. I blocked out certain periods of time to concentrate on, and off she went to New York. She came back at the end of two weeks with the following on dictaphone tapes:

We are now at the year 1908, which was the year that the Carnegie Foundation began operations. In that year, the trustees, meeting for the first time, raised a specific question, which they discussed throughout the balance of the year in a very learned fashion. The question is: “Is there any means known more effective than war, assuming you wish to alter the life of an entire people?” And they conclude that no more effective means than war to that end is known to humanity.
So then, in 1909, they raised the second question and discussed it, namely: “How do we involve the United States in a war?”
Well, I doubt at that time if there was any subject more removed from the thinking of most of the people of this country than its involvement in a war. There were intermittent shows in the Balkans, but I doubt very much if many people even knew where the Balkans were. Then, finally, they answered that question as follows: “We must control the State Department.” That very naturally raises the question of how do we do that? And they answer it by saying: “We must take over and control the diplomatic machinery of this country.” And, finally, they resolve to aim at that as an objective.
Then time passes, and we are eventually in a war, which would be World War I. At that time they record on their minutes a shocking report in which they dispatched to President Wilson a telegram, cautioning him to see that the war does not end too quickly.
Finally, of course, the war is over. At that time their interest shifts over to preventing what they call a reversion of life in the United States to what it was prior to 1914 when World War I broke out. At that point they came to the conclusion that, to prevent a reversion, “we must control education in the United States.” They realize that that's a pretty big task. It is too big for them alone, so they approach the Rockefeller Foundation with the suggestion that that portion of education which could be considered domestic be handled by the Rockefeller Foundation and that portion which is international should be handled by the Endowment. They then decide that the key to success of these two operations lay in the alteration of the teaching of American history.
So they approach four of the then-most prominent teachers of American history in the country – people like Charles and Mary Byrd – and their suggestion to them is: will they alter the manner in which they present their subject? And they got turned down flat. So they then decide that it is necessary for them to do as they say, “build our own stable of historians.”
Then they approach the Guggenheim Foundation, which specializes in fellowships, and say: “When we find young men in the process of studying for doctorates in the field of American history and we feel that they are the right caliber, will you grant them fellowships on our say-so?” And the answer is yes. So, under that condition, eventually they assembled assemble twenty, and they take this twenty potential teachers of American history to London, and there they're briefed on what is expected of them when, as, and if they secure appointments in keeping with the doctorates they will have earned. That group of twenty historians ultimately becomes the nucleus of the American Historical Association.
Toward the end of the 1920's, the Endowment grants to the American Historical Association $400,000 for a study of our history in a manner which points to what can this country look forward to in the future. That culminates in a seven-volume study, the last volume of which is, of course, in essence a summary of the contents of the other six. The essence of the last volume is: The future of this country belongs to collectivism administered with characteristic American efficiency. That's the story that ultimately grew out of and, of course, was what could have been presented by the members of this Congressional committee to the congress as a whole for just exactly what it said. They never got to that point.

ED GRIFFIN: This is the story that emerged from the minutes of the Carnegie Endowment?

NORMAN DODD: That's right. It was official to that extent.

ED GRIFFIN: Katherine Casey brought all of these back in the form of dictated notes from a verbatimreading of the minutes?

NORMAN DODD: On dictaphone belts.

ED GRIFFIN: Are those in existence today?

NORMAN DODD: I don't know. If they are, they're somewhere in the Archives under the control of the Congress, House of Representatives.

ED GRIFFIN: How many people actually heard those, or were they typed up, a transcript made of them?

NORMAN DODD: No.

ED GRIFFIN: How many people actually heard those recordings?

NORMAN DODD: Oh, three maybe. Myself, my top assistant, and Katherine. I might tell you, this experience, as far as its impact on Katherine Casey was concerned, was she never was able to return to her law practice. If it hadn't been for Carol Reece's ability to tuck her away into a job in the Federal Trade Commission, I don't know what would have happened to Katherine. Ultimately, she lost her mind as a result of it. It was a terrible shock. It's a very rough experience to encounter proof of these kinds.

Read entire transcript at: http://www.realityzone.com/hiddenagenda2.html

[Unified Serenity]

I like to do reverse speech and check how honest people are. I found this on Mr. Dodd. It appears that he is telling the truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB5wS...eature=related

[orthodoxymoron]

Thank-you for posting the transcription. What a huge mess we have to clean up! I wonder how many people have lost their minds when they uncovered corruption and other disturbing information? First...you would be shocked at what you found. Second...you would be shocked at the reaction of co-workers and superiors...and their efforts to discredit and silence you. Third...you would be shocked at suddenly finding yourself unemployed and blackballed throughout the country...and unable to find work. Fourth...you would be shocked that no one would listen to you or believe you...and would think that you were crazy. At that point...many people would really go insane.

[Christo888]

Well Oxy... you give a pretty clear description... cept for the insane part... there's way's around that!