Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? - Page 2

BROOK · 01-27-2009, 01:23 AM

A lesson in Loving you enemy...

Two young fellas at work were trying to get me fired, so they could split my work and make more money.
I knew what was happening... so I protected my work, and did the best job I could do. I did not retaliate, I did not lash back in anger.
I was hurt, but I just kept doing the best job I could do.
A week later, My general manager came to me and offered me a position a a Director for not only the store I worked at, but another store, with a big fat raise.
These guys now work under me, and I praise them daily when they do a good job. And I protect them like my children, because what they do reflects on me.
Yes..Love your enemys...good things happen when you do!!

futureyes · 01-27-2009, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK

A lesson in Loving you enemy...

Two young fellas at work were trying to get me fired, so they could split my work and make more money.
I knew what was happening... so I protected my work, and did the best job I could do. I did not retaliate, I did not lash back in anger.
I was hurt, but I just kept doing the best job I could do.
A week later, My general manager came to me and offered me a position a a Director for not only the store I worked at, but another store, with a big fat raise.
These guys now work under me, and I praise them daily when they do a good job. And I protect them like my children, because what they do reflects on me.
Yes..Love your enemys...good things happen when you do!!

indeed brook ...

this is the way of the universe ... it is just how it is ... we just have to realize it is so ...

BROOK · 01-27-2009, 02:29 AM

You should have seen the look on their faces when it was announced.
And they still don't know I knew about their plan. I never said a word

futureyes · 01-27-2009, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

You should have seen the look on their faces when it was announced.
And they still don't know I knew about their plan. I never said a word

ain't life grand ...

BROOK · 01-27-2009, 02:44 AM

Priceless

orthodoxymoron · 01-27-2009, 04:00 AM

I'm trying to put myself in other people's shoes...especially people who I disagree with or dislike. For example, I am very, very opposed to the New World Order(or my perception of what it is)...yet I try to think of what it might be like to be a CFR member, or to attend a Bilderberg Group meeting. What if I had been born into an elite family such as the Rockefellers or Rothschilds? If that had been the case...then everyone would probably hate me! What would I do if I were the Pope? That's a really, really scary thing to contemplate! I really genuinely love the proponents of the New World Order. I just want to dismantle the bloody(literally) thing! My conclusion is that the elites we love to hate...are in deeper do-do than us peons. The view from the top of the pyramid must be horrifying. They are very, very deep into some very, very evil and dangerous things. Further, we need to make it much easier for these people to turn against the NWO. How about amnesty in exchange for disclosure and cooperation? Jesus told us to love our enemies so that the cycle of oppression/rebellion/revenge/oppression would be broken. I envision the salvation of the entire human race(and aliens?)...not just some special people.

futureyes · 01-27-2009, 04:41 AM

orthodoxymoron ...

i like how you placed this on the chopping block and dissected it to come to your conclusions ...

I envision the salvation of the entire human race(and aliens?)...not just some special people.

this is about the collective ... if we can live life in this moment loving our enemies ... we can trust the result in the end will be of benefit to all ...

BROOK · 01-27-2009, 04:47 AM

What happens to the evil an darkness when you shine a light on it...it rears it's ugly head, but eventually disappears. The bad guy gets it in the end..
You have to wonder where it goes...where ever it goes...it can't be good.
That being said...you don't have to associate with the darkness because you send "love to the enemy"...but you should send blessings because it can't be a good place....no matter how deserving.
And in the end you will reap the rewards of that blessing.

futureyes · 01-27-2009, 04:56 AM

i love that brook ...

and wherever the dark dissolves to ... ain't our business ... we only move onward and allow the universe to take care of what remains ...

Seashore · 01-27-2009, 09:01 AM

I like the phrase "protection field"!

Thanks, susan/the eXchanger.

Dominic · 01-27-2009, 10:33 AM

What a great thread seashore!

I like the no enemies way of thinking that is getting to the bottom of a age old problem.

Sending love never felt so good. I am sure they are feeling it too.

2009 is going to be a great year!

Peace

Seashore · 01-27-2009, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK

A lesson in Loving you enemy...

Two young fellas at work were trying to get me fired, so they could split my work and make more money.
I knew what was happening... so I protected my work, and did the best job I could do. I did not retaliate, I did not lash back in anger.
I was hurt, but I just kept doing the best job I could do.
A week later, My general manager came to me and offered me a position a a Director for not only the store I worked at, but another store, with a big fat raise.
These guys now work under me, and I praise them daily when they do a good job. And I protect them like my children, because what they do reflects on me.
Yes..Love your enemys...good things happen when you do!!

BROOK,

I missed this when it was first posted...

This is a beautiful story!!

Thanks!

Seashore · 01-27-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

I'm trying to put myself in other people's shoes...especially people who I disagree with or dislike. For example, I am very, very opposed to the New World Order(or my perception of what it is)...yet I try to think of what it might be like to be a CFR member, or to attend a Bilderberg Group meeting. What if I had been born into an elite family such as the Rockefellers or Rothschilds? If that had been the case...then everyone would probably hate me! What would I do if I were the Pope? That's a really, really scary thing to contemplate! I really genuinely love the proponents of the New World Order. I just want to dismantle the bloody(literally) thing! My conclusion is that the elites we love to hate...are in deeper do-do than us peons. The view from the top of the pyramid must be horrifying. They are very, very deep into some very, very evil and dangerous things. Further, we need to make it much easier for these people to turn against the NWO. How about amnesty in exchange for disclosure and cooperation? Jesus told us to love our enemies so that the cycle of oppression/rebellion/revenge/oppression would be broken. I envision the salvation of the entire human race(and aliens?)...not just some special people.

Wow!!

What a post.

Stewart Swerdlow has said that the Illuminati are 100% mind controlled. I believe this would be specific mind control. Also trauma based mind control.

I think you're making a very good point.

Thank you.

Seashore · 01-27-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by futureyes

I envision the salvation of the entire human race(and aliens?)...not just some special people.

I like this vision!!

Seashore · 01-27-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dominic

What a great thread seashore!

I like the no enemies way of thinking that is getting to the bottom of a age old problem.

Sending love never felt so good. I am sure they are feeling it too.

2009 is going to be a great year!

Peace

Thanks, Dominic! I am enjoying it immensely and I'm gaining insight.

I'm not used to thinking that 2009 is going to be a great year. But you've planted a seed...

Humble Janitor · 01-27-2009, 11:24 AM

I'm a believer in not viewing people as enemies.

More like friendly rivals but never any concrete hatred.

Seashore · 01-27-2009, 11:31 AM

Thanks, Humble Janitor.

Josefine · 01-27-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by eXchanger

to them, love is a poison

and, yet, to us, those who are on the right road

love is, all there really is

love/susan
the eXchanger

Love is always love, never a poison, but THEY may be disappointed that their little plots to catch us off guard did not work.

Every one is on a road that is right for them at the time, since they did choose it, but anyone may decide any time that 'Hmm, this road is a little bit too harsh, even for me, maybe there is another way?'.

This is how the book "A Course in Miracles' found two people who had just posed this question. The source, being Jesus Christ, said: 'You are not really ready for this, yet, but time is short. You won't understand all of it until later, but if you take it down, it will help a lot of people'.

And it did.

Seashore · 01-27-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Josefine

Love is always love, never a poison...

Good point...

01-27-2009, 05:06 PM

This "love your enemy"... the word "your" is important... as Pogo said "we have met the enemy and he is us"... thus, if God is everything or nothing at all... and "he" is the source of all.. then the enemy is within if we only admit (let in) this truth. Light makes darkness disappear, but so does the darkness overcome light as when night time comes... the world is a pictorial illustration of truth. Perhaps it's not about one aspect vs the other.

Seashore · 01-27-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EpiphaMe

This "love your enemy"... the word "your" is important... as Pogo said "we have met the enemy and he is us"... thus, if God is everything or nothing at all... and "he" is the source of all.. then the enemy is within if we only admit (let in) this truth. Light makes darkness disappear, but so does the darkness overcome light as when night time comes... the world is a pictorial illustration of truth. Perhaps it's not about one aspect vs the other.

Awesome!

I had to read your post three times to assimilate it.

Thanks!

Dakini · 01-27-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EpiphaMe

This "love your enemy"... the word "your" is important... as Pogo said "we have met the enemy and he is us"... thus, if God is everything or nothing at all... and "he" is the source of all.. then the enemy is within if we only admit (let in) this truth. Light makes darkness disappear, but so does the darkness overcome light as when night time comes... the world is a pictorial illustration of truth. Perhaps it's not about one aspect vs the other.

Yes, since we are all one, we are each of us reflected in one another. When I encounter those who can trigger me, for instance, those who are cruel to animals (this will def. do it), I immediately ask myself, "where inside of me has there been ignorance?" And I know in my past, when I was asleep I had my ignorant moments. This small act brings in the light, the love, the space for understanding and awareness. When we bring this in, offer it to ourselves, we can then choose to reflect it back to others. Take action when it's warranted.

Once when my nephew was about 8, I noticed him in the yard with a golf club, striking over and over a colony of ants. I went to him and said,
"Stop! Why are you killing them?"
"I don't know," he said.
"Do you think those ants have lives?"
"Yes."
"Would it be kind if someone came to your house and destroyed it and killed you and your friends?"
"No."
"It's something to think about, yes?"
"Yes. But they are just ants."
"Just ants? Everything living has a life - the trees, the grass, the flowers, the insects, everything. I don't know if our lives are better or worth more to them. Their lives mean something, too."
I have never seen him destroy another living thing.

Seashore · 01-27-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dakini

Yes, since we are all one, we are each of us reflected in one another.

This is going to stick with me...

Thanks!

macrostheblack · 03-05-2009, 05:59 PM

We must always be aware that a person who wishes ill will upon you or another is still a human being, but i believe that you should only love your enemy if they want this - otherwise it is a waste of your energy and another anchor point they can play upon.

They are the ones who dug their own hole and to climb out they must shout for our help first.

Macros

TheChosen · 03-05-2009, 07:19 PM

Sure I love everyone at the highest level where we are all one.. but if I am in the middle of a chess or soccer game then I may do my best to win the game and maybe even put a drop or two of some hatred and anger to make things more spicy

.. (since this 3d planet is also a game, albeit on a bit higher level than playing chess, I tend to use the same game principles)... the tricky part is the game rules change for every situation and every individual.. so it is never the same.

01-27-2009, 01:23 AM	#26
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? *A lesson in Loving you enemy...* *Two young fellas at work were trying to get me fired, so they could split my work and make more money.* *I knew what was happening... so I protected my work, and did the best job I could do. I did not retaliate, I did not lash back in anger.* *I was hurt, but I just kept doing the best job I could do.* *A week later, My general manager came to me and offered me a position a a Director for not only the store I worked at, but another store, with a big fat raise.* *These guys now work under me, and I praise them daily when they do a good job. And I protect them like my children, because what they do reflects on me.* *Yes..Love your enemys...good things happen when you do!!*

01-27-2009, 02:29 AM	#28
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? You should have seen the look on their faces when it was announced. And they still don't know I knew about their plan. I never said a word

01-27-2009, 02:44 AM	#30
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? Priceless

01-27-2009, 04:00 AM	#31
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? I'm trying to put myself in other people's shoes...especially people who I disagree with or dislike. For example, I am very, very opposed to the New World Order(or my perception of what it is)...yet I try to think of what it might be like to be a CFR member, or to attend a Bilderberg Group meeting. What if I had been born into an elite family such as the Rockefellers or Rothschilds? If that had been the case...then everyone would probably hate me! What would I do if I were the Pope? That's a really, really scary thing to contemplate! I really genuinely love the proponents of the New World Order. I just want to dismantle the bloody(literally) thing! My conclusion is that the elites we love to hate...are in deeper do-do than us peons. The view from the top of the pyramid must be horrifying. They are very, very deep into some very, very evil and dangerous things. Further, we need to make it much easier for these people to turn against the NWO. How about amnesty in exchange for disclosure and cooperation? Jesus told us to love our enemies so that the cycle of oppression/rebellion/revenge/oppression would be broken. I envision the salvation of the entire human race(and aliens?)...not just some special people. Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 01-27-2009 at 04:13 AM.

01-27-2009, 04:41 AM	#32
futureyes Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: heart central Posts: 798	Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? orthodoxymoron ... i like how you placed this on the chopping block and dissected it to come to your conclusions ... I envision the salvation of the entire human race(and aliens?)...not just some special people. this is about the collective ... if we can live life in this moment loving our enemies ... we can trust the result in the end will be of benefit to all ...

01-27-2009, 04:47 AM	#33
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? What happens to the evil an darkness when you shine a light on it...it rears it's ugly head, but eventually disappears. The bad guy gets it in the end.. You have to wonder where it goes...where ever it goes...it can't be good. That being said...you don't have to associate with the darkness because you send "love to the enemy"...but you should send blessings because it can't be a good place....no matter how deserving. And in the end you will reap the rewards of that blessing.

01-27-2009, 04:56 AM	#34
futureyes Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: heart central Posts: 798	Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? i love that brook ... and wherever the dark dissolves to ... ain't our business ... we only move onward and allow the universe to take care of what remains ...

01-27-2009, 09:01 AM	#35
Seashore Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,564	Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? I like the phrase "protection field"! Thanks, susan/the eXchanger.

01-27-2009, 10:33 AM	#36
Dominic Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Edgewood, Wa. Posts: 302	Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? What a great thread seashore! I like the no enemies way of thinking that is getting to the bottom of a age old problem. Sending love never felt so good. I am sure they are feeling it too. 2009 is going to be a great year! Peace

01-27-2009, 11:24 AM	#41
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? I'm a believer in not viewing people as enemies. More like friendly rivals but never any concrete hatred.

01-27-2009, 11:31 AM	#42
Seashore Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,564	Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? Thanks, Humble Janitor.

01-27-2009, 05:06 PM	#45
EpiphaMe Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? This "love your enemy"... the word "your" is important... as Pogo said "we have met the enemy and he is us"... thus, if God is everything or nothing at all... and "he" is the source of all.. then the enemy is within if we only admit (let in) this truth. Light makes darkness disappear, but so does the darkness overcome light as when night time comes... the world is a pictorial illustration of truth. Perhaps it's not about one aspect vs the other.

03-05-2009, 05:59 PM	#49
macrostheblack Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 386	Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? We must always be aware that a person who wishes ill will upon you or another is still a human being, but i believe that you should only love your enemy if they want this - otherwise it is a waste of your energy and another anchor point they can play upon. They are the ones who dug their own hole and to climb out they must shout for our help first. Macros

03-05-2009, 07:19 PM	#50
TheChosen Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Light Posts: 239	Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"? Sure I love everyone at the highest level where we are all one.. but if I am in the middle of a chess or soccer game then I may do my best to win the game and maybe even put a drop or two of some hatred and anger to make things more spicy .. (since this 3d planet is also a game, albeit on a bit higher level than playing chess, I tend to use the same game principles)... the tricky part is the game rules change for every situation and every individual.. so it is never the same.