Comment on Bill Deagle credibility

[Rebel4Life]

one word. EGO.

[Truth voice 2012]

Well said pineal-pilot. Bills interview for me, was just another confirmation of the main issues that we face.

ETs are controlling every aspect of our lives (Religion, Military, Politics, Education and the Media) except for our free will.

These ETs are higher dimensional reptilian buggers!

They feed off negative energy and interact with this dimention through the "blue bloods" via their unique DNA.

Apperently the only way to defeat these fiends is to boycot ALL of their institutions and drop our egos. Im hopeful but, I find it very hard to believe that this will occur.

Bill for me wasnt fearmongering, he has made the same logical conclusion of our current situation, that I have made myself. I hate to say it but he was right on the money about a lot off things in this vid.

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[granny]

Historycircus post:

"The real trick with these Camelot interviews and other sources, is to take something of value away from them - or else you will have just wasted your time. Why do anything that does not enrich your existence? Besides, I think that is why Kerry and Bill do the videos - to educate. "


My approach exactly and thanks for bringing it to mind.

There was one word Deagle used repeatedly ... discernment ... and that is what we need to bring to this party.
Gran

There are many reasons why I believe Bill Deagle is the real deal. He confirmed the vision I had years ago about what was going on underground as far as the chimero/human manipulations experimentations. I was glad I relayed my vision to a Camelot whistleblower by a PM, telling them what I saw before I saw BW's recent interview which confirmed mine.

Fear mongering, ego, well you have to have some sort of ego to live on the planet and speak up, it helps you know, but having said that, don't blame anyone but yourselves if the shtf and you have not prepared because he tried to tell you what to do to prepare, and is not that what we came to Project Avalon to do, - ground crews to prepare - yes it was a strong interview but what did you expect - fluffy warm hugs - look whats going on around you - and that is just the tip of the iceberg - the general public on the whole has not got an iota of what is realling going on. This guy knows people, has been confided to - been to places and knows secrets - all he is trying to do is wake people up for God' sake - meaning our sake.

If we just sit around and talk to each other and do nothing then we have no one to blame but ourselves when it is over and we are in spirit and we did nothing. I have a poll on another thread - I am prepared now to go over and talk in front of the bad guys - and there are some bad ones out there - okay so they might be playing this game - well I will put myself in the game and play it - my move - if only they will let me speak somewhere to some important people - eventhough I am just an uneducated housewife, mum and grandmum. at least I tried.

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Everyone on here is at a different consciousness level and why not everyone "got" the context of Deagle's spiritual message.

Jesus said, "Those who have eyes to see and ears to hear" I believe his message long ago was the same as the spiritual messages of today as he was a master of quantum physics. This was depicted in the story of the mustard seed.
He came to tell us that, "Ye are Gods" and we can do as he does and more if we believe.

It's funny how the people who do not understand the messages get so angry about them but then have a quote underneath speaking about love. I guess it is not so easy to love those we don't agree with!

Unconditional love is not about making other people wrong for their beliefs or accusing them of a big ego. To speak out these days you do need a strong ego with all the criticism and threats one gets, not only from forums but government groups who want to shut you up or kill you.

One person even said how he should be more humble as a man of God. This is of the old paradigm. Because the world is changing at such a rapid pace the spiritual teachers of today do not sit under a bodhi tree in meditation, they are more likely to kick ass get the job done.

Any man who stuck by having his daughter knowing she was down syndrome AND had a heart defect with so much love..........geez what are some of you thinking?

"By their fruits you shall know them" The only fruit I saw of the person who began this thread is condemnation, judgment, misunderstanding and ridicule.
It sounds like he is the disinfomation specialist.

I sincerely hope we can get it together here folks. Again, if you see a fault in another it is a fault you have but do not want to see about yourself. This is how we change the world, by looking at ourselves before we condemn another, then unconditionally loving them.

Peace & Love to you all.

Exacto mundo as the Fonz used to say to the last post. I agree totally, don't say no one told you okay. Don't say you were not told by anyone. A few times the dark side actually tried to recruite Bill Deagle and he told them where to go - would you have been that strong - think about it for a minute, just a wee minute - go on - would you have had the guts to say no.

[HaveBlue]

I agree with David wilcocks assessment of Dr Deagle. I note this interview being the latest 3 part one was done back in September. His previous doomsday visions have not come true.
However he does have some valid things to say and we are wise to heed the warnings.
I had to smile right at the end of Pt3 where he said 'you won't even be safe in the south island of New Zealand'- That's where I am, and right next to the sea at 6ft above sea level. I am happy and comfortable here and have many times had my own gut feeling on things. I have no intention of moving.
Stocking up for a month or two on food and water and gas,being as self reliant as you are when camping is common sense.
Dr Deagle has filled us in on some black ops that go on,most of which is not new. His nightmares are not our reality. He should have mentioned in his many quotes of bible scripture that there will be many false prophets! Why does he neglect to mention this we must ask ourselves?

[micjer]

Originally Posted by BooBear

After listening to Dr Deagle and his quite staggering stories and predictions, I am now convinced he is playing a part in the "BlueBeam Project". Part truth-part disinfo.
Did he say he was a related to Moses ? Deagle is a doom and gloom merchant. Stay well clear. As for David Wilcock, he is clearly a new age Guru wannabe. Ironically ,DW doesnt rate Deagle either.
The more I research 2012 and its significance, the more I see NWO.

excuse my ignorance but are you saying that you think the 2012 event is being staged by the NWO?

[NOWIAM]

Would it be possible that Dr. Deagle has been conditioned by covert mind control experiments (e.g.: MK-ULTRA, etc)?

Does anyone have any detailed information of various tell-tale signs of mind control victims?

[Myplanet2]

I finally got the time to listen to all three segments, and I found I got a lot out of them. There was lots I could agree with. I can personally do without the insistence upon impending doom that is unconfrontable by practically anyone, but I understand his sense of urgency.

His experiences are real to him, or he's an actor in a league of his own. I'd say he must believe what he says. Just an intuition.

I am now kind of surprised at how easily some simply dismiss him. That's interesting.

But as said so often now, just take what you find useful, and leave the rest. If you really don't think there is anything of value in Deagle's work, then ignore him from now on.

[MargueriteBee]

Originally Posted by Greg10036

I cannot comment on Dr. Deagles credibility but please allow me to say:

"Harry Truman is my seventh cousin. By direct lineage, I am president of the United States. I have been empowered by this lineage to be president of the United States. People may say, 'how can Greg be president? He does not look like a president.' To this I respond, I did not choose this job. I am president. I have direct lineage to the presidency. This is not easy, but somebody has to do it. Ask me any question and I will give you very long answers. You will see how much I know about being president. Thank you for your support in this noble burden.
BTW a three book deal has been signed and a movie is in the works. You can read more about this at website:
ofcoursegregispresidentitisobvious.com
for further information on how bad it is, see the doom blog at:
nobodygetsoutofitalive.com"

g.

Thank you very much, I could not have said it better myself.

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[raulduke]

Originally Posted by Tuza

If we just sit around and talk to each other and do nothing then we have no one to blame but ourselves when it is over and we are in spirit and we did nothing.....at least I tried.

Amen sister.

We'll try hard....

[Accipiter_Phi]

I believe Deagle believes what he says. Obviously, people are responding intuitively to his message in many different ways.

In counseling, we sometimes use an exercise to understand one's point of view...

So, please Indulge this hypothetical construct:

It requires you to engage in a little bit of ROLE PLAY. Here is your character's motivation:

YOU are a prophet whose bloodline descends to "thee" hero of old: MOSES; the messenger of the Torah whom is known to be more humble than any other man... (and a probable Annunaki crossbreed).

YOU are 1 of the 24 most important men in the history of the Planet Earth since YOU have been personally hand selected as a representative by "the Galactic Grand Council" to establish rather or not the planet earth (and its infinite bio diversity potential) shall be extinguished like so much athlete's foot upon the sole (soul) of the Universe. Just think about that for a second ... YOU are LITERALLY 1 of the 24 most important hu-mans out of the trillions upon trillions of souls that have existed since the beginning of life here upon Gaia, "the cleaved one.".

YOU woke up one day and had a French Nobleman and CEO of Earth materialize out of thin air... and his name was "Dragon Penis" (translation of "PinDar"). "Dragon Penis" then told YOU that YOU have been slated to be the new "Dragon Penis"; i.e.: the new CEO of Earth. (I don't know about you, but the CEO of Earth sounds like a dick).

YOU can talk to GOD... via a direct link...

Through this link with the Infinite Creator of all that is, YOU were told that ALL religions are fraudulent... especially Buddhism (those damn war mongering Buddhists with their stupid infinite compassion FOOLs!.. Every last emotionally balanced one of them!...)

YOU have always "been in the right place at the right time" and you have more "hands on" experience than fictional characters like "MacGyver, James Bond, Dr. Who, House M.D., and Vinzinni the Sicilian (from the Princess Bride) all rolled into one massive, intelligence singularity.

The Infinite Creator, THEE I AM PRESENCE, has charged YOU with a task to save Humanity... not JUST from "Physical Death" but from the DEATH of humanity's VERY SOUL... (I never knew the Universe was so wasteful with timeless and eternal beings; wasteful with fragments of the "I AM" attempting to experience itself through freewill, but I digress).

OK... now that YOU have your character's motivation.... lets start the hypothetical role play:

WHAT DO YOU DO?

Well, you probably want to get interviewed and spread the word... this is a "no brainer."

HOW DO YOU ACT?

Well, given the extreme experiential nature of your current incarnation, YOU would surely be as humble as Moses, no?

You would teach by example, since your 3rd dimensional experience is seemingly unparalleled by any other, no?

You would have no need to spend upwards of 60% of your interview dropping your proverbial "props" since you would KNOW that the truths that YOU espouse are self evident.

You, as 1 of the 24 most important men in the history of Planet Earth and one with GOD's home phone number, would convince the "lost ones" to furnish themselves with firearms... RIGHT?

You would give the populace the benefit of the doubt that they CAN handle the TRUTH (after all, YOU COULD). YOU WOULD NOT speak to them in a didactic and pedantic manner? Ofcourse.

YOU would be an instrument of GOD's peace,
Where there is hatred, YOU would sow love;
where there is injury, YOU would pardon;
where there is doubt, YOU would shine faith;
where there is despair, YOU would offer hope;
where there is darkness, YOU would radiate light;
where there is sadness, YOU would foster joy;
YOU would not so much seek to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love.

YOU, as 1 of the 24 most important men in the history of the planet would have inner peace, focus, patience, humility... HOPE.

The GOD I know wouldn't want me to do HER work any other way...

But I guess it all depends on just WHO YOUR GOD IS.

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After watching the recent Deagle interview, I just can't stop thinking about this one movie quote by Vizinni the Sicilian from The Princess Bride:

"Ever heard of PLATO, ARISTOTLE, SOCRATES?..."
"yes"
"MORONS!"

(please view this post in the spirit in which it is intended: a humorous look at some redflags of a "lightworkers" messsage).

[Norval]

huh?

[clarkkent]

mr PHI as usual points out very good things that the few discerning folks on the forum would see as well.

someone posted this link and its actually one of the better level headed articles ive read on this whole field of thought.
here it is, i highly recommend clickin' it.

http://montalk.net/alien/145/discern...rmation-part-1

im not posting much these days but i still check from time to time. i watched the bob dean and now deagle's interview. i concur with all mr PHI said, its too bad bill asked for the other "90%" deagle left out of the grenada forum and instead of more information about black ops/alien/other dimensional info we got a lot of "me me me, prophet, jesus, yeshuwah, me, me," and some spirituality, which is all fine and dandy but i have to say he seems stuck in the same paradigm that has enslaved us (the guns stuff) also he's the first person ive heard who believes an "infinite soul" can be destroyed, that doesnt sound too infinite to me.

i really resonate MORE with people that can divorce themselves from whatever religious pov they grew up with-clearly he hasnt despite the fact that he says how terrible religion is he's dropping bible quotes left and right
and his bloodline lineage.....turns me off bigtime (sidenote-- the video editing...what happened? sound problems bad lighting etc etc-did someone else shoot/edit it? also i know kerry is trying to keep focus for the interview but too often doesnt let an interview complete a thought and confuses the interviewee and jumbles the flow)

anyhow...yeah my 2 cents

[FoxForceFive]

Originally Posted by Tuza

Don't say you were not told by anyone. A few times the dark side actually tried to recruite Bill Deagle and he told them where to go

That 'story' was the one that broke the camel's back for me. Until then, I was somewhat frustrated that Kerry was not getting the answers she was demanding as he would go off on another track.. but I was nevertheless open-minded and attentive.

Then, he goes into this story about how this Rothschild Pindar dude in a $5000 suit woke him up and then vanishes into the ether in a puff of smoke, through a vortex of some kind. I'm like 'okkkkaaaay what a load of...' - it smacked very much of Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol and being visited by the ghost of Christmas past.

Something didn't ring true there for me, felt more like storytelling.. spinning a yarn..

[Hypnotize]

it seemed to me that he was sorta putting himself on a pedistole and kept talking about how much power he has.

He states that we are all spirit extensions of the great I am. Or we are all a part of God. Sorry but I never was, I am Not Now, Nor will I ever be the great I Am or Yahweh Or yahvah if you will. I am a Child of the Most high. I am a creation of the Most High but I AM NOT THE MOST HIGH. I can work as an agent for him. I can be filled with him. I can commune with him as well if He wills it. But NO Where in the Scriptures does it say such a thing and it's as good as Blasphemy to say so. Only Jesus and the Holy Spirit are a part of God. His stating so make me throw away all the rest of what he says. Period. The Bible says that we are to be the Bride of Christ so does that mean God will marry his self? I could make several more statements like this but I don't even want to waste my time. Deagle is a Money whore. The end is near!! But my cures for disease and protect yourself with them against pandemics. plllease. He also gets guests like the crazy nut that runs Vatican assassin's. Who , that is a true believer could even entertain someone like that on their show? Sorry but thats just how I feel about him. Please don't hate me, well if you want to I guess you can hate me for it.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Scooby

He states that we are all spirit extensions of the great I am. Or we are all a part of God. Sorry but I never was, I am Not Now, Nor will I ever be the great I Am or Yahweh Or yahvah if you will. I am a Child of the Most high. I am a creation of the Most High but I AM NOT THE MOST HIGH. I can work as an agent for him. I can be filled with him. I can commune with him as well if He wills it. But NO Where in the Scriptures does it say such a thing and it's as good as Blasphemy to say so. Only Jesus and the Holy Spirit are a part of God. His stating so make me throw away all the rest of what he says. Period. The Bible says that we are to be the Bride of Christ so does that mean God will marry his self? I could make several more statements like this but I don't even want to waste my time. Deagle is a Money whore. The end is near!! But my cures for disease and protect yourself with them against pandemics. plllease. He also gets guests like the crazy nut that runs Vatican assassin's. Who , that is a true believer could even entertain someone like that on their show? Sorry but thats just how I feel about him. Please don't hate me, well if you want to I guess you can hate me for it.

I can see from your comments and viewpoint how Deagles comments might not have sat well with you.

But this needn't come down to "right" and "wrong". It could be different instead.

When a person views from a point, (has a viewpoint) other points appear as different, or "over there". Many religions, including yours, instill and then strengthen this tendency. This is how it is. That way is the wrong way. They are this, or that. Unbelievers. Misguided. Controlled by dark forces. If you don't agree with our view, then you are wrong and doomed. And ad infinitum.

The challenge is in avoiding the automatic rejection of other viewpoints.

Learning is done by comparing. If you can't look at other viewpoints, then what do you have to compare to?

[Average Joe]

I agree with the OP.

[Richard T]

Originally Posted by Vorian's Revenge

Are you saying he needs to connect his physical world as well?

Not just his spirit.

Is it his love for the invisible that causes his vision's to be misunderstood?

What I am saying is that prophecy is from the invisible and a prophet speaks the voice of the invisible.

Prophets of the past did not possess their psychic territory, like the average joe. But they had enough internal strength to support the energy. Then there are those other 'prophets' who are partly given information they don't control and who partly extrapolate from what they believe they know. It is not even a question of goodwill, it is a question of trusting the invisible to be 'truthful'.

A real prophet is the direct manifestation of the verb of his own infinity and does not speak in the name of an entity or in the name of a book. That is what tomorrow's prophets will be.

Giving credibility to the invisible, regardless of what we want to call the intelligences that work in those domains, is a bit like trusting your banker 'who only wants your welfare'.

It is not because they say so that it is so. Like it is not because a certain intelligence hiding behind a show of light claims to be the Nazarene that it is the case.

Another example, the problem with anthropomorphism, where people rationalize that 'god' is a being, therefore exposing themselves to being told by any intelligence that they are contacted by 'god', or even more subtly being captivated by a vibration that conveys a sense of godhood.

Visions are not understood because they are examined intellectually.

When we dream at night, the ego is in suspension. The astral forms that are the archetypes and those that are other types of symbols are interacted with solely at the psychic level. They work at the level of the vibration and appear psychically obvious during the dream state. If the ego keeps the memory of his dreams or visions, he will seek to interpret them using the intellectual categories he uses when awake to try and make sense of his life. But the forms are not understandable psychologically, they are understandable psychically. This should help understand the deep differences between the laws of certain invisible spheres and those of the material sphere. But the ego is too much captivated by the form and ditches the vibration, which is the information carried by the form.

The ego always seeks to understand when in reality there is nothing to understand. All is to be known, and knowing is by vibration and never by intellectual evaluation of the form itself. Understanding is giving a value to an error.

[suchanawesomekid]

Originally Posted by Anticomuna

who is this guy?

dude...

if you don't know who Dr. Deagle is, if you've never heard of him before, then that's your situation to address.

the guy has a radio show called "the nutrimedical report", and is widely regarded as a person with credibility, quite far from someone like billy meier, for example. i assume a lot of people write him off because of his style of speaking out, but i don't care about what those people have to say.

it seems to me you just don't know what you are talking about

anyway... look.... if you don't like the guy, that's fine. i don't agree with everything he says, and that's ok, it's all part of being a civilized human, you should be able to accept people's flaws, ALLOW them to be individuals.

in any event, what's important here is the MESSAGE he brings, not his background.

how on earth is his background important, when his message is so powerful in itself? that's one of the problems with humanity, the inability to prioritize. just listen to your heart. and if your heart keeps telling you it's all bullcrap, then get your heart checked out .... that's easy to do tho, but i'm not going to tell you how to do it, you have to do research.

look.. sometimes dr. deagle pisses me off. sometimes i think he's waaaay too paranoid. but then again, sometimes he says stuff that is so true and powerful i just decide to keep listening. he knows a bunch of stuff and it's cool to learn stuff