20,000 March on Washington, DC Health Care KILL the BILL 11/5

peaceandlove · 11-05-2009, 10:54 PM

Live Report From Health Care Rally In Washington,

http://www.radioviceonline.com | November 5, 2009 | Steve McGough

Posted on November 5, 2009 3:55:49 PM EST by Biggirl

With the help of Steve McGough's mother, Carol, who was in D.C. today to give a report to Jim Vicevich. Taped report on the blog.

We’ll try to get some pictures posted in the next two days, but for now you can find images over at Gateway Pundit. I’ve also got the audio posted below from Carol’s (mom’s) live report from the capital steps this morning minutes before the health care rally got started.

If you’ve got links to more information and photos, post them in the comments section to share with everyone.

(Excerpt) Read more at http://radioviceonline.com/live-repo...washington-dc/

SOURCE: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2379423/posts

peaceandlove · 11-05-2009, 11:02 PM

Operation Health Freedom Website Launched

Posted by Gary Howard on 11/05/09 2:15 PM

Washington, D.C., November 5, 2009 - Today, House Republicans are holding a press conference in front of a rallying crowd to oppose the Democrat's health reform plan introduced late last week. Campaign for Liberty, which announced its support for an alternative to the Democrat health reform plan last week as well, is also launching a new project and website to promote its proposal.

The project, Operation Health Freedom (http://www.OperationHealthFreedom.com), boasts a site which gives visitors information on the legislation and on how to contact their representatives in Congress to urge them to support this alternative health reform package.

"Campaign for Liberty is proposing that Congress try passing legislation that promotes true health freedom," said John Tate, President of Campaign for Liberty. "The same government that has given us trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities for Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security is not going to fix our health care system with this latest bureaucratic scheme. It's time to vote health freedom."

The Operation Health Freedom package includes legislation introduced by Congressman Ron Paul. The cornerstone of the package is H.R. 1495, the Comprehensive Health Care Reform Act of 2009, which provides all Americans with a tax credit for 100% of health care expenses, a tax credit for premiums for high-deductible insurance policies connected with a Health Savings Account (HSA), and allows seniors to use funds in an HSA to pay for a medigap policy. In addition, it makes all medical expenses tax deductible.

Also included are H.R. 2629, a bill that prevents the government from requiring people to purchase health insurance, and H.R. 3217, introduced by Congressman John Shadegg, which permits the purchase of health insurance across state lines and will ultimately lower costs due to the resulting competition.

SOURCE and COMMENTS: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=27736

HR 1495 http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=27736

HR 2629 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:h2629:

HR 3217 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:h3217:

peaceandlove · 11-05-2009, 11:17 PM

SAY GOODBYE to AARP!!

Obama welcomes AARP backing of health care bill

Obama, House Dems confident on health care vote

Slideshow:Health Care

AP – Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, hold a copy of the health care bill on the West Front of the Capitol in Washington, …

By ERICA WERNER and RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, Associated Press Writers – 56 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Buoyed by two major endorsements, House Democratic leaders on Thursday predicted swift passage of President Barack Obama's historic health overhaul initiative. The president himself declared, "We are closer to passing this reform than ever before."

With a vote set for Saturday, momentum gathered behind the sweeping legislation to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to millions of the uninsured. The American Medical Association and the powerful seniors' lobby AARP both threw their weight behind the bill Thursday. AARP, with its 40 million members, promised to run ads and contact activists to gin up support.

Continues: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/wire.php?view=8541

peaceandlove · 11-06-2009, 04:41 AM

For anyone interested in this information...

Last Chance to Stop PelosiCare

From: Campaign for Liberty <john.f.tate@campaignforliberty.com>

Dear Defender of Liberty,

House Democrat leadership is planning to ram its 1,900-page complete government takeover of health care through Congress with a vote this Saturday at 6 pm eastern.

But many Democrats are hesitant to support the plan after Tuesday’s election results. With every passing day, they are growing more worried about facing the wrath of angry constituents back home.

You and I can take advantage of their doubts to stop the Pelosi Plan in the House, but only if we act quickly and make it clear where we stand.

Click here to get contact information for your representative and urge him to stand up for the American people by opposing the forced insurance mandate, higher taxes, and red tape contained in the Pelosi Plan. SERVER MAY BE BUSY, KEEP TRYING: http://paracom.paramountcommunicatio...874D9B356BB254

And if the vote takes place Saturday night as scheduled, they will be in their offices all that day. So keep the calls going on Saturday!

There is a real alternative to yielding more power over our lives to Washington: implementing a plan centered on freedom, choice, and faith in the American taxpayers that they know how to spend their money better than some unelected bureaucrat.

That’s why Campaign for Liberty has launched www.OperationHealthFreedom.com.

This new website highlights our Health Freedom Plan, features videos from Judge Napolitano, Rand Paul, Peter Schiff, and more, and gives you contact information for your representative, along with a sample letter to Congress.

The same government that has piled up trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities for Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security is not going to fix our health care system with more intervention.

It’s time to send Congress a clear message: get out of our health care!

In Liberty,

John Tate
President

P.S. The Pelosi Plan vote is expected Saturday night, so you and I must turn up the pressure on Congress now! Click here to get contact information for your representative: SEE ABOVE LINK

VIDEOS and EDUCATION RESOURCES: http://www.operationhealthfreedom.com/

Campaign for Liberty: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

peaceandlove · 11-06-2009, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Mark Levin Facebook: Code-Pink clashed with Pro-Life Group and Tea Partiers outside of Nancy Pelosi's office in DC. The Pro-Life group who were protesting were handcuffed whereas the Code-Pink demonstrators were not. Shocking video!

http://www.facebook.com/marklevinshow?ref=share

Nancy Pelosi's Office sit-in and demonstration

VIDEO (7:30): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5eNT...ayer_embedded#

Source: www.youtube.com

Public opposition to Pelosi's Healthcare Bill leads to demonstration in her office building after rally at the Capitol.

SOURCE: http://www.facebook.com/posted.php?i...597&comments=1

peaceandlove · 11-06-2009, 05:05 AM

It’s On and IT’S MASSIVE– “Kill the Bill Rally” In DC! …Update: Mark Levin at Rally (Video)

Thursday, November 5, 2009, 11:55 AM
Jim Hoft

Excerpts:

Ed Schultz sends these photos from the steps of the US Capital

“They’re going to listen,” said Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., who originally called for the rally. “The biggest voice in the United States is your voice.”

FOX News has a report on the rally– So far no official number:

PHOTOS, VIDEO and SOURCE: http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com...l-rally-in-dc/

Humble Janitor · 11-06-2009, 06:06 AM

Do you work for the Republican Party or something?

Do you even realize that both parties are a joke and the Republicans would rather leave it up to the insurance companies to continue to gouge and rip off Americans?

peaceandlove · 11-18-2009, 11:45 PM

Obviously you have not read any of my previous replies to your attacks. And here you are again making the same statement. Are you a socialist or a bully or something? In fact I have a complete file of your attacks on me and other members of this forum saved to my computer, which includes a real hummer I saved before you quickly deleted it!

Unfortunately your hearing disability prevents you from being able to keep up with some things and I'm sorry for that.

Otherwise you may be enjoying the 'live' broadcast streaming now of The Continental Congress. (Actually they are breaking for dinner shortly (7:00), but they will be back.) Oops they did not break at 7:00.

http://freedom.tv/live

A Word to Non-Libertarians

Posted November 11th, 2009 by xntryk1
Albuquerque Libertarian Examiner November 10, 11:48 AM
Kent McManigal

If you are not a libertarian (under my understanding of the concept), it means one of two things-

It could mean that you are not aware of what is going on. The mainstream media works very hard to keep you in the dark. They hide facts that would be embarrassing to their version of authoritarianism, while skewing information to make such authoritarianism seem reasonable or even necessary. They mercilessly attack the "other" authoritarian ideology to distract you from noticing their own inconsistency. Most people don't want to examine their own beliefs too closely anyway. It is uncomfortable to realize you have been supporting policies that are harmful to people, so you might be a willing participant in your own deception.

On the other hand, if you are not a libertarian it might mean that you do know what is going on, and you approve. You probably don't approve of everything, but you approve of enough of the authoritarianism as to compromise with evil in some areas. At least admit what you are supporting. Government is based upon murder. To support its actions when they go along with your own prejudices is to be complicit. No government program or policy is worth killing people over, nor worth destroying lives to finance. Not a single one. Not the "War on (some) Drugs"; not "Social Security". Not the US military; not Medicaid. "Not "national borders"; not "universal health care". Not "gun control"; not "defense of marriage". Those are all simply two sides of the same lie- that government owns you and can dispose of you or "protect" you as it sees fit.

I will let you in on a few little secrets: it is never "necessary" to attack anyone, and "collateral damage" is a euphemism for murder. It may be disconcerting, but "fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" makes you the aggressor and makes you wrong. "Society" is only a collective term for individuals. Harm an individual and you are harming society no matter what you may claim. There is no such thing as "the common good". A "right" can never impose an obligation on another person. Theft is still theft no matter who is doing it. "Laws" that try to regulate or control anything other than theft or aggression are not real laws, and supporting or enforcing them means you are committing evil. This is not about the false divisions of "right/left" or "conservative/progressive"- this is about right and wrong. Period.

SOURCE: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/114258

777 The Great Work · 11-19-2009, 12:08 AM

Gateway Pun 22 911-- Kill Bill = 911-ll -911-ll with twin towers on each word

1111

11-05-2009, 10:54 PM	#1
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	20,000 March on Washington, DC Health Care KILL the BILL 11/5 Live Report From Health Care Rally In Washington, http://www.radioviceonline.com \| November 5, 2009 \| Steve McGough Posted on November 5, 2009 3:55:49 PM EST by Biggirl With the help of Steve McGough's mother, Carol, who was in D.C. today to give a report to Jim Vicevich. Taped report on the blog. We’ll try to get some pictures posted in the next two days, but for now you can find images over at Gateway Pundit. I’ve also got the audio posted below from Carol’s (mom’s) live report from the capital steps this morning minutes before the health care rally got started. If you’ve got links to more information and photos, post them in the comments section to share with everyone. (Excerpt) Read more at http://radioviceonline.com/live-repo...washington-dc/ SOURCE: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2379423/posts

11-05-2009, 11:02 PM	#2
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	Re: 20,000 March on Washington, DC Health Care KILL the BILL 11/5 Operation Health Freedom Website Launched Posted by Gary Howard on 11/05/09 2:15 PM Washington, D.C., November 5, 2009 - Today, House Republicans are holding a press conference in front of a rallying crowd to oppose the Democrat's health reform plan introduced late last week. Campaign for Liberty, which announced its support for an alternative to the Democrat health reform plan last week as well, is also launching a new project and website to promote its proposal. The project, Operation Health Freedom (http://www.OperationHealthFreedom.com), boasts a site which gives visitors information on the legislation and on how to contact their representatives in Congress to urge them to support this alternative health reform package. "Campaign for Liberty is proposing that Congress try passing legislation that promotes true health freedom," said John Tate, President of Campaign for Liberty. "The same government that has given us trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities for Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security is not going to fix our health care system with this latest bureaucratic scheme. It's time to vote health freedom." The Operation Health Freedom package includes legislation introduced by Congressman Ron Paul. The cornerstone of the package is H.R. 1495, the Comprehensive Health Care Reform Act of 2009, which provides all Americans with a tax credit for 100% of health care expenses, a tax credit for premiums for high-deductible insurance policies connected with a Health Savings Account (HSA), and allows seniors to use funds in an HSA to pay for a medigap policy. In addition, it makes all medical expenses tax deductible. Also included are H.R. 2629, a bill that prevents the government from requiring people to purchase health insurance, and H.R. 3217, introduced by Congressman John Shadegg, which permits the purchase of health insurance across state lines and will ultimately lower costs due to the resulting competition. SOURCE and COMMENTS: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=27736 HR 1495 http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=27736 HR 2629 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:h2629: HR 3217 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:h3217:

11-05-2009, 11:17 PM	#3
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	Re: 20,000 March on Washington, DC Health Care KILL the BILL 11/5 SAY GOODBYE to AARP!! Obama welcomes AARP backing of health care bill Obama, House Dems confident on health care vote Slideshow:Health Care AP – Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, hold a copy of the health care bill on the West Front of the Capitol in Washington, … By ERICA WERNER and RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, Associated Press Writers – 56 mins ago WASHINGTON – Buoyed by two major endorsements, House Democratic leaders on Thursday predicted swift passage of President Barack Obama's historic health overhaul initiative. The president himself declared, "We are closer to passing this reform than ever before." With a vote set for Saturday, momentum gathered behind the sweeping legislation to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to millions of the uninsured. The American Medical Association and the powerful seniors' lobby AARP both threw their weight behind the bill Thursday. AARP, with its 40 million members, promised to run ads and contact activists to gin up support. Continues: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/wire.php?view=8541

11-06-2009, 04:41 AM	#4
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	Re: 20,000 March on Washington, DC Health Care KILL the BILL 11/5 For anyone interested in this information... Last Chance to Stop PelosiCare From: Campaign for Liberty <john.f.tate@campaignforliberty.com> Dear Defender of Liberty, House Democrat leadership is planning to ram its 1,900-page complete government takeover of health care through Congress with a vote this Saturday at 6 pm eastern. But many Democrats are hesitant to support the plan after Tuesday’s election results. With every passing day, they are growing more worried about facing the wrath of angry constituents back home. You and I can take advantage of their doubts to stop the Pelosi Plan in the House, but only if we act quickly and make it clear where we stand. Click here to get contact information for your representative and urge him to stand up for the American people by opposing the forced insurance mandate, higher taxes, and red tape contained in the Pelosi Plan. SERVER MAY BE BUSY, KEEP TRYING: http://paracom.paramountcommunicatio...874D9B356BB254 And if the vote takes place Saturday night as scheduled, they will be in their offices all that day. So keep the calls going on Saturday! There is a real alternative to yielding more power over our lives to Washington: implementing a plan centered on freedom, choice, and faith in the American taxpayers that they know how to spend their money better than some unelected bureaucrat. That’s why Campaign for Liberty has launched www.OperationHealthFreedom.com. This new website highlights our Health Freedom Plan, features videos from Judge Napolitano, Rand Paul, Peter Schiff, and more, and gives you contact information for your representative, along with a sample letter to Congress. The same government that has piled up trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities for Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security is not going to fix our health care system with more intervention. It’s time to send Congress a clear message: get out of our health care! In Liberty, John Tate President P.S. The Pelosi Plan vote is expected Saturday night, so you and I must turn up the pressure on Congress now! Click here to get contact information for your representative: SEE ABOVE LINK VIDEOS and EDUCATION RESOURCES: http://www.operationhealthfreedom.com/ Campaign for Liberty: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

11-06-2009, 05:05 AM	#6
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	Re: 20,000 March on Washington, DC Health Care KILL the BILL 11/5 It’s On and IT’S MASSIVE– “Kill the Bill Rally” In DC! …Update: Mark Levin at Rally (Video) Thursday, November 5, 2009, 11:55 AM Jim Hoft Excerpts: Ed Schultz sends these photos from the steps of the US Capital “They’re going to listen,” said Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., who originally called for the rally. “The biggest voice in the United States is your voice.” FOX News has a report on the rally– So far no official number: PHOTOS, VIDEO and SOURCE: http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com...l-rally-in-dc/

11-06-2009, 06:06 AM	#7
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: 20,000 March on Washington, DC Health Care KILL the BILL 11/5 Do you work for the Republican Party or something? Do you even realize that both parties are a joke and the Republicans would rather leave it up to the insurance companies to continue to gouge and rip off Americans?

11-18-2009, 11:45 PM	#8
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	Re: 20,000 March on Washington, DC Health Care KILL the BILL 11/5 Obviously you have not read any of my previous replies to your attacks. And here you are again making the same statement. Are you a socialist or a bully or something? In fact I have a complete file of your attacks on me and other members of this forum saved to my computer, which includes a real hummer I saved before you quickly deleted it! Unfortunately your hearing disability prevents you from being able to keep up with some things and I'm sorry for that. Otherwise you may be enjoying the 'live' broadcast streaming now of The Continental Congress. (Actually they are breaking for dinner shortly (7:00), but they will be back.) Oops they did not break at 7:00. http://freedom.tv/live A Word to Non-Libertarians Posted November 11th, 2009 by xntryk1 Albuquerque Libertarian Examiner November 10, 11:48 AM Kent McManigal If you are not a libertarian (under my understanding of the concept), it means one of two things- It could mean that you are not aware of what is going on. The mainstream media works very hard to keep you in the dark. They hide facts that would be embarrassing to their version of authoritarianism, while skewing information to make such authoritarianism seem reasonable or even necessary. They mercilessly attack the "other" authoritarian ideology to distract you from noticing their own inconsistency. Most people don't want to examine their own beliefs too closely anyway. It is uncomfortable to realize you have been supporting policies that are harmful to people, so you might be a willing participant in your own deception. On the other hand, if you are not a libertarian it might mean that you do know what is going on, and you approve. You probably don't approve of everything, but you approve of enough of the authoritarianism as to compromise with evil in some areas. At least admit what you are supporting. Government is based upon murder. To support its actions when they go along with your own prejudices is to be complicit. No government program or policy is worth killing people over, nor worth destroying lives to finance. Not a single one. Not the "War on (some) Drugs"; not "Social Security". Not the US military; not Medicaid. "Not "national borders"; not "universal health care". Not "gun control"; not "defense of marriage". Those are all simply two sides of the same lie- that government owns you and can dispose of you or "protect" you as it sees fit. I will let you in on a few little secrets: it is never "necessary" to attack anyone, and "collateral damage" is a euphemism for murder. It may be disconcerting, but "fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" makes you the aggressor and makes you wrong. "Society" is only a collective term for individuals. Harm an individual and you are harming society no matter what you may claim. There is no such thing as "the common good". A "right" can never impose an obligation on another person. Theft is still theft no matter who is doing it. "Laws" that try to regulate or control anything other than theft or aggression are not real laws, and supporting or enforcing them means you are committing evil. This is not about the false divisions of "right/left" or "conservative/progressive"- this is about right and wrong. Period. SOURCE: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/114258 Last edited by peaceandlove; 11-19-2009 at 12:26 AM.

11-19-2009, 12:08 AM	#9
777 The Great Work Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: At the doors of perception Posts: 2,135	Re: 20,000 March on Washington, DC Health Care KILL the BILL 11/5 Gateway Pun 22 911-- Kill Bill = 911-ll -911-ll with twin towers on each word 1111 Last edited by 777 The Great Work; 11-19-2009 at 12:26 AM.