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Old 12-03-2009, 06:13 AM   #1
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All Men Watch PORN, Scientists Find...LOL

Scientists at the University of Montreal launched a search for men who had never looked at pornography - but couldn't find any.

By Jonathan Liew
Published: 1:22PM GMT 02 Dec 2009

Researchers were conducting a study comparing the views of men in their 20s who had never been exposed to pornography with regular users.

But their project stumbled at the first hurdle when they failed to find a single man who had not been seen it.

“We started our research seeking men in their 20s who had never consumed pornography,” said Professor Simon Louis Lajeunesse. “We couldn't find any.”

Continues: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/relations...ists-find.html

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Old 12-03-2009, 06:26 AM   #2
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:19 PM   #3
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Several years ago in New Zealand, 'the internet police' did a search on computors from schools to offices, government depts ect.

They found 300 police computors through out the country where porn had been viewed...


My take is this...TPTB have been using sex, manipulatiing sex for eons, Its one of the largest marketing platforms known to man/woman. It is no coincidence that (some researches say) 70% of internet use is for porn. A trillion dollar industry, and of course we can guess who is behind all this?

Men have been specifically targeted as 'they' understand the visual aspect of men which trigger amourous emotions, more so than woman, tho not immune.

Sadley, these days, the internet has provided direct access to the most explicit form of porn to our children, mind-programming at its worst.

Example: When I was 13yrs, many years ago...entering into puberty, I discovered my Fathers Penthouse magazine under the seat of his truck. Of course I was naturally curious and looked. My point is this, That was my introduction to this form of sexual interest, as well as playground chat at school. These days our kids, through school, their mates, girls and boys are veiwing the most outrageously expilcit material that is just disturbingly sickening, at a very young age!!! Those parents who do not monitor there childrens computor use and think they are not 'looking' at porn are deluded and niave.

The whole sex education at school is a complete joke and does nothing to illustrate the beauty and profound enjoyment that couples can experience together sexually and emotionally, as in service to others(together/sharing) Self gratification of course has its place but the whole sexual energy/practice/education/porn industry is manipulated and rammed down our throats at every turn... and our childrens. It is truely a sad state of affairs...

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Old 12-06-2009, 02:27 PM   #4
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PORN is Like going to your like most favorite place to eat !
Pressing your nose against the Window, watching someone
else, eat your favorite meal... As every forkfull goes in...
You can see the pleasure on their face as they consume Your Meal...
Drinking your most Favorite beverage.... As they swallow and take another
Forkfull... And smile as they enjoy the Real flavor on their tongue. As it melts
and is swallowed slowly with enjoyment... And, the worst would be if you saw
MMMMMMmmmmmmmm.... Oh, I would go NUTS....




Yeah... Cause THAT sounds like real FUN to me... NOT
[looking down at my empty hand] Where's My fork.
Where My plate... I want some...

Trooly,



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Old 12-07-2009, 08:17 AM   #5
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All Men Watch PORN, Scientists Find...LOL

Scientists at the University of Montreal launched a search for men who had never looked at pornography - but couldn't find any.

By Jonathan Liew
Published: 1:22PM GMT 02 Dec 2009

Researchers were conducting a study comparing the views of men in their 20s who had never been exposed to pornography with regular users.

But their project stumbled at the first hurdle when they failed to find a single man who had not been seen it.

“We started our research seeking men in their 20s who had never consumed pornography,” said Professor Simon Louis Lajeunesse. “We couldn't find any.”

Continues: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/relations...ists-find.html
What does this have to do with PA/PC?
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:22 AM   #6
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What does this have to do with PA/PC?
The connection is with the ulterior motive of pornography - mind manipulation of the masses.

Speaking from personal experience, it is a tough one to get past.

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Old 12-07-2009, 08:28 AM   #7
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What does this have to do with PA/PC?
well lets see.... Porn is one of the biggest scourges of our society today, and one of the least talked about. Its funny, I was contemplating on starting a thread on porn just yesterday as it is one of the most ignored yet devastating tools used by the ptw..
It is everywhere in the western world. It is a horrific attack on the masculine senses and a degradation of the female mind and body.
It is all about pleasure with no love. Satisfying the animal not the wight.

It is being used as a massive brainwashing tool. I cannot search google images for anything without some sort of porn coming up. Banners, mainstream much music ****, tv, everywhere. It is becoming mainstream, there are shows glorifying porn stars. It is an abomination that everyone is in denial of because we are told subliminaly (and now out in the open) that is it not cool to talk down on porn. Nothing good comes out of it and nothing will.
It feeds the emotions concerning rape, child abuse, degradation of the feminine and masculine aspects, domination and so forth. It used to market everything from coke to movies to health products to you name it

It is not love, it is not sex, it is a fleeting pleasure that will never be fullfilled, a black hole, it is an addicting filth that needs to be confronted.

Ok, got it off my chest I feel better now.
But really, it is hard on us males are we are being bombarded with it at unpresidented levels. It is good practice to over come strong desires though.
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:34 AM   #8
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You do not have to go to porn to see It is a horrific attack on the masculine senses and a degradation of the female mind and body.
It is all about pleasure with no love. Satisfying the animal not the wight.

Just look at the adverts on billboards or some TV commercials..
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:38 AM   #9
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Well, as someone who feels that sexuality should not be repressed, I'm really not sure what to think.

As long as people have free will, some will choose to act in porn films, male and female.

They might meet an untimely end (AIDS, STDs, etc) or they even reform (though that's rare).

Thanks for making me think. One more avenue of repression that just hasn't been examined enough.
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:58 AM   #10
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Yes I know this is why porn is so deadly.
I love sex and nakedness and the female body, but these guys have surpressed true sexuality and replaced it with filth. It's a thin red line in lots of ways. But porn is extremely harmful to humanity and is ALWAYS present in the SHIVA (destruction) stage of 'civilized' cultures.

Sexuality is completely lost today in the west in general, the sexual freedom, the wholeness of mind and body, the completness of our in-divide-dual selves. The only output they give us in this sexually surpressed society is porn. This is why it is so prevelent in my mind. People want to express themselves sexually and in general they do not know how else to do it.






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Old 12-07-2009, 09:03 AM   #11
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Masturbation is as old as humanity if not older. Erotica goes way back as well.
A simple head shot can be all you need if you find the face pleasing enough.
And don't forget simple imagination!
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:47 AM   #12
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What does this have to do with PA/PC?
it doesnt really does it? but maybe the whole topic of pornography could be seen as a means of contol.....in terms of how it is used in modern society.
it is as they say as old as the hills and is something that both sexes take part in (some 'womens' novels for instance).
i have no problem with porn as such, but i hate they way it is used to boost consumerism, it permiates into every day life and something i really dont want the children to see (dont mind a bit of nudity). i also dont like the effect it has on younger minds......body image, unreasonable expectations on relationships between people and so on.

i ask this why is porn sooooooo availiable and visible?
there has been a pushing of bounderies with regards to this in terms of net, tv, etc etc and i really hated the pop ups when i was researching for my psychotherapy training a few years back.......couldnt look up stuff (psychosexual stages of developement for instance) without some porn popping up grrrrrrrr
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:59 AM   #13
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I think to understand porn you need to compare the state we are in now to what you internally know the natural state should be.

It is all about distortion from the natural flow.

We have taken a natural act and function - sexual reproduction, where its harmonious expression is a balance, in love, between all our bodies - spiritual, mental, physical and emotional bodies - into a distorted and disharmonious expression, one which, in the case of porn, is largely mental.

All manner of other sexual perversions - (perversions away from the purely natural harmony) are similar distortions.

We were given the freewill to experience these things, and it presents an easy target for the dark forces to tempt people into distraction and distortion that will impede thier spiritual awakenings.

You have a choice - you alone make it, and you alone are responsible for the outcome. It is as simple as that.

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Go to this site and check the ads. I have nothing against naked human body, but look how they use it...
http://inventorspot.com/articles/ads...sex_sells_5576
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:31 PM   #15
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That's a very accurate and right on target research. Congrats to the researchers..

After all, we all are animals with basic insticts right?....Intelligence doesn't really make a big difference here does it?....Yeah, Darwin was right all from the beginning....we're just monkeys on mind expanding drugs.....
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:31 PM   #16
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Got my soda and popcorn What time does the movie start and who`s in it ?
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Ok. So, porn is toxic.

How do you propose that people express their sexual urges? By repressing them? Is masturbation evil? Are people able to separate the human part of pornography from their animalistic urges and desires?

And what about women that willingly go along with exploiting themselves in pornographic films? How is it possible that they're being used if you can't use the willing?
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:52 PM   #18
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Its all in our genes guys and gals no big deal, we are programed this way... women have to show off to be popular and men are like studs...
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Oh My!!

The Internet is for porn avenue Q original - Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-TA57L0kuc
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Oh My!!

The Internet is for porn avenue Q original - Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-TA57L0kuc
i was in stitches, and welcome
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So... once again...what was the purpose of this thread?
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So... once again...what was the purpose of this thread?
Not sure but at least it made me think. I think that's enough of a purpose.
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Anchor: The connection is with the ulterior motive of pornography - mind manipulation of the masses.


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"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a women lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell." Matthew 5:31,32 RSV

Wow! Strong words! Too strong? Is this one of the hard sayings that Dr. F.F. Bruce wrote about? I think so! This is actually a new covenant teaching which is tougher than the old covenant teaching! The teachings of Jesus have veto power over the Old Testament! The teachings of Jesus have veto power over the New Testament! The teachings of Jesus have veto power over all Christian leaders in all of Christian history! If a Christian leader thinks they have veto power over the teachings of Christ...they are not Christian leaders! They are simply the bland leading the bland!

It is always helpful to look for the underlying principles and concepts, especially if you like being able to see with two eyes! I was wondering...if you took this text literally and your heart was filled with burning desire for the married girl next door, and you gouged your right eye out...what should you do if your heart is still filled with burning desire for the married girl next door?! Thank God Jesus didn't say anything about the left eye!

Seriously! How do we know when to take a text literally, and when to start rationalizing! Use your brain! It should be obvious that Jesus is using the technique of exaggeration to make a point! He is telling us to take sin very seriously, and to understand how destructive sin is if it is followed to its logical, or actually illogical, conclusion! Obviously, Jesus does not want people to gouge their eyes out! But think about it...if an affair with the married girl next door led to lying, jealousy, anger, and even murder...perhaps a missing eye would be the least destructive option!

So...if we see an extremely sexually attractive married member of the opposite sex in a tiny swimsuit with a nice dark tan...what are we supposed to do?! Darned if I know! WWJD? OK...the general rule is to think through who would get hurt, and how badly, if you actually did what you are thinking! This requires more than a simplistic, "what's wrong with it?" It requires reasoning from cause to effect, and asking, "what's right with it?" This requires a lot of effort, and I'm afraid that most of us are moral wimps! Myself included!

Thinking sexual thoughts is a part of life! For those that have a life, that is! If you don't think lustful thoughts, you are probably one screwed-up human being! The secret is to constructively redirect one's thoughts when they become destructive! And be honest about what constructive and destructive thoughts are! Do they teach this sort of thing in school? Are you kidding?!

And what about hell? Is hell still a burning question? If gouging out your eye is not to be taken literally...well hell...maybe hell, especially an eternally burning hell, should not be taken literally either! Hell? No!! And the Devil...well he's a helluva guy (or gal)!
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Why is there so much agony and ecstasy connected with reproduction? Most people want sex, straight or otherwise, and find it supremely enjoyable, but why are there so many problems? Is the fact that sex feels good responsible for overpopulation? Why is conception pleasurable, while child-birth is painful? What if it was the other way around? Should sex be used only for procreation, and not for recreation? Why are there so many sexually transmitted diseases? Is AIDS man-made? Recreational drugs are illegal! Should recreational sex also be illegal? Why are various sexual behaviors considered sinful and/or illegal? Who decides which sexual behaviors are sinful and/or illegal?

Christians are encouraged to think pure thoughts! But what is a pure thought? What is an impure thought? Can God read our minds? If so, does God sometimes blush? Did God invent sex? Is God sexy? Does God have sex? If so, with whom? Is sexual desire a part of original sin? Why do we wear clothes? Why is it illegal to not wear clothes in public? As if the above questions weren't enough, there are more! There are several cans of worms!

Did Jesus have sexual thoughts? Was Jesus a hunk? Did Jesus have a girlfriend? Did Jesus have a wife? Did Jesus have sex? Did Jesus have children? Are these inappropriate questions? Do any of these questions really matter? If so, why so? If not, why not?

Is a lustful thought sinful? Is masturbation sinful? Is pre-marital sex sinful? Is sexless dating realistic? Is extra-marital sex sinful? Is it sinful to be sexy? Is pornography sinful? Why is pornography mostly slam-bam and degrading!? And how do I know that!? How do you know if I'm right or wrong?! There's more! A lot more!

Is homosexuality sinful? Does Jesus say it's sinful? If it is sinful, why is it sinful? Because isolated Biblical passages say so? Is it inherently immoral, with or without Biblical condemnation? Is it genetic? Is it a pre-disposition? Is it a choice? Should homosexuals become teachers and preachers? Should they become soldiers? Should they become the Bishop of New Hampshire? What about gay marriage? What about polygamy?

Is birth control sinful? Is abstinence realistic or healthy? Is having too many children sinful? How many is too many? Does life begin at conception? Why doesn't it begin before conception? If life ends when the brain and heart stop working, why doesn't life begin when the brain and heart start working? Why is causing a woman to miscarry considered murder, when abortion is not considered murder? Why is aborting a 9 month old unborn baby not considered murder, when killing a 9 month old newborn baby is considered murder?

Is procreation a created phenomenon, or merely the creation of evolution? Is procreation a marriage of creation and evolution? Is sex a spiritual as well as a physical phenomenon?

Is extra-marital online sex and phone sex as sinful as extra-marital physical sex? If variety is the spice of life, does that make having multiple partners OK? Is it OK to experiment sexually before marriage as long as you are faithful to the one you marry? Should you be jealous if your partner or spouse is cheating? Should you be happy if they are happy cheaters?

Should good abstaining teens grind their teeth while the bad kids have all the good times? Should businessmen screw their secretaries as well as their competition? And then go home to their mansions and kiss their beautiful wives and children, and read the scripture in church on Sunday?

Does the church use irrational, impossible sexual rules and the resulting sexual guilt as a means of controlling the masses? And as a means of fund raising when the guilty flock comes to church each week to obtain the forgiveness of their sins, mostly sexual? Should clergy be celebate? Is celebacy a set-up for abuse?

Why is making love considered shameful? Why is making war considered honorable?

There was a young maiden named Wyld!
She kept herself quite undefiled!
By thinking of Jesus and social diseases!
And the fear of having a child!

Thinking of Jesus...He didn't touch 99% of the above questions with a 10 foot pole...smart Man!

As for me...I prefer to talk softly...and carry a big stick...

The fact that there are so many controversial sex questions may help explain why our world is so screwed-up...
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