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View Poll Results: Is Death a Bad Thing? | |||
Very bad: avoid at all cost | 0 | 0% | |
Bad: avoid at all cost | 0 | 0% | |
Undesired: avoid if possible | 3 | 6.12% | |
Undesired: not so bad | 1 | 2.04% | |
It dose't matter: we all go sometime | 6 | 12.24% | |
Unavoidable: accept it | 10 | 20.41% | |
Unavoidable: warm up to it | 4 | 8.16% | |
Desired: at the appoionted time | 22 | 44.90% | |
Desired: at any time | 5 | 10.20% | |
Wanted: right now | 1 | 2.04% | |
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll |
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01-04-2010, 04:24 AM | #1 |
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Is Death Really A Bad Thing? I want your opinion
With all the disturbing things and wonderful things we have been researching over the years, it seems at times there are more questions than answers.
For me it was learning about how the banking system works that started my journey about 3 years ago. From there it all began to unravel as I discovered that planet Earth is ruled by a small number of psychopaths who despise humanity and are ravenous to consume everything in site for the feeding of desires and extreme self indulgence. They have total control over the Earth and have had for thousands, if not millions, of years; and all attempts to stop them have failed. The desire to look outside our visible reality for freedom is strong...so...we think...and..we look and we ponder and we reason... There must be another form of reality that is reachable to us. Maybe we are in it already. Maybe it is in us. Maybe that's where we came from. Maybe thats where we are going. Maybe we are dreaming it all. Which leads us to the question.... Is Death Really a Bad Thing? Comments please! |
01-04-2010, 04:27 AM | #2 |
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01-04-2010, 04:43 AM | #3 |
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Re: Is Death Really A Bad Thing? I want your opinion
I think that would depend on the person, and whether they had lived a full and satisfying life, or have left things unfinished, as to whether they feel the parting of their soul and body is a good thing at that time or not.
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01-04-2010, 05:04 AM | #4 |
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Re: Is Death Really A Bad Thing? I want your opinion
death is a part of life ... in life there is death ...
is life a bad thing? death is not a bad thing either ... for the ones left grieving for their loved ones ... death is sad ... then equated to being a bad thing ... because it causes 'us' pain ... for the ones who have passed on ... death is but a walkway ... to yet another adventure ... what did buzz light year say ... to infinity and beyond ... life and death are circular ... no beginning and no end ... only changes ... within ... there is as much beauty in death as there is in life ... there is as much life in death as there is is in life ... we have not as yet opened up to this realization ... we "think" in terms of limitations ... we don't quite yet fully "feel" ... within expansion ... of what really is ... but we're getting there ... we're plodding along ... stepping out of our narrowness and into full expansion of knowing and experiencing all that is ... death is not bad ... it is though very sad ... when a life is taken ... by another human being or beings ... for self serving agendas ... that is sad as well as bad ... and this will have to change ... but death in itself ... is simply but a walkway ... to infinite exploration ... and experiences ... |
01-04-2010, 05:23 AM | #5 |
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its as natural as anything in existence, and plenty of evidence supports that you've done it a bazillion times.
heres a link to my blog about this subject http://superstrangeland.blogspot.com...soul_3953.html -clark |
01-04-2010, 05:26 AM | #6 |
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Re: Is Death Really A Bad Thing? I want your opinion
My tendency is to think that it is not bad.
It is a part of the natural life that we have given ourselves. In my studys of death like NDE's, OBE's, Astral travel, ETC... I think death gets a general rating of positive. |
01-04-2010, 05:35 AM | #7 |
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I think that death is unnecessary, and why it exists is "beyond" me!
I want God to apologize for it and stop the madness! I also think that it is rather strange that while we have to eat, something has to die. I think that God ought to apologize to all and stop the madness. I don't find a suitable box to check in the multiple choice question. |
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Why would God make us in his image and then kill us off? Why did God produce a planet where the inhabitance eat each other, then say that he loves us? Maybe God is something other than what we have been told. |
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01-04-2010, 05:43 AM | #9 |
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You can choose more than one option in the poll.
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01-04-2010, 05:45 AM | #10 | |
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There is a 'higher agenda' and which relates to what clark has said (I'm rather impressed with him and his holistic perspectives on his site). The key is consciousness and selfawareness in EVOLVEMENT. There will be a 'time' as written:
This planet earth is 'alive' just as you are. It has a consciousness distributed on many interwoven levels. There is a 'root consciousness' due to its spacial volume and its mass and there are trillions of feedback loops with all the lifeforms residing on this planet. So when an alligator eats a fish for example, the 'consciousness' of all participants, earth, alligator and fish (only to name the three majors there is also atmosphere, other fish and alligators etc. etc interacting) - changes via frequency modulations changing energy selfstates definable by 'experience factors'. Physically, the 'fish consciousness' becomes part of the alligator - remember the saying you are what you eat; and metaphysically the fish 'becomes alligator conscious'. Somewhat poetically, the 'dead' fish becomes superconscious from the subconsciousness after becoming unconscious from its waking consciousness'. You can call this a 'spiritual transformation' or collapse/emergence of particle-and wavefunctions in quantum mechanical terms. Now this might 'blow your mind' (however less so than most others not so weird as ourselves) - the alligator's consciousness is root-coupled in physicality to the planetary consciousness {the alligator grew from an egg using planetary resources say} BUT is also coupled to a 'missing part' of 'alien intelligence'. Iow PHYSICALLY the alligator is an earth creature, but in terms of its NONHUMAN being (defined in the evolutionary decoupling in say mitochondrial DNA), the alligator is an ET. This is why the earth is quarantined and remains isolated from the rest of the sentient universe. The so called GENETIC EXPERIMENT of Man, associated with the 'seeding of the earth' is much more profound, than either the 'New Agers, i.e. Annunaki of Mesopotamian lores' or the 'Theosophists' or name it yourself have discerned so far. Overall in the planetary perspective; Gaia EXPERIENCES the evolution of its creatures as the evolution of herself as a Gaian Family of Living Consciousness interacting with itself. So the food-chains of the interdependencies serve as a RAW ENFORCEMENT for the evolution of consciousness. Only in eating each other, can the root consciousness grow into its eventual 'self-realisation' of being more than itself ('I am just a self sovereign body' is caveated by: But I cannot live if I do not CONSUME the air (itself alive in consciousness) around and if I do not CONSUME water and food. Ergo, the construction of the biological body is temporary and designed to CONSUME consciousnesses to further the Gaian planetary self evolution. Then of course, Gaia is in constant feedback with the host star RahSol and through the sun to the Solar System and through the Star System to the Galactic Systerm and so forth until the Universal Consciousness is reached in the feedback mechanisms (all frequency defined). The quarantine of Gaia is a cosequence of its harbouring MAN, the grand genetic experiment by a timeless and spaceless 'program' instigated before and through the Quantum Big Bang. MAN is destined to assume the role of the 'Cosmic Steward'; the Mirror of SuperConsciousness for all other Mirrors, including 'alien intelligences' technologically far superior to the manmade and invented technology. BUT, the 'uniqueness' of Gaia (actually playing 'God's Harlot Wife' or the DOG who 'ran away' and gnostically the Barbelo of the Afterthought [Secret Book of John] and the 'Woman' in Revelation12) required a planetary environment of superdiversification and a multitude of interacting lifeforms to 'build up the consciousness' in an environment of survival instincts and self-preservation. I could go on, but due to the 'delicacy' of this information, I shall only answer questions and not just monologue about it - as is usually the case on these forums. Your question about the 1 in 10,000 is almost right. The critical mass of (human) consciouness carriers actually incarnated in bodyforms on Gaia is 7,200,000,000 or 7.2 Billion inhabitants. This is then 1 in 50,000. Now remember the Mayan superlong count is 5x13x144,000 kin-days or 9,360,000 for 25,626.8 civil years and so the proportion is 0.0013. Iow the present precessional cycle of Cro Magnon Homo Sapiens Sapiens 'cocoonisation' for its metamorphosis into StarMan following the 2012/2013 transition nexus; was preceded by a 20 Million year period of 1/0.0013=769.3 such 'precession cycles' (which were of course different in duration due to a changing planetary rotation rate). So what happened at the geological time of 20 Million years ago? The GENETIC EXPERIMENT called MAN began in the consciousness of the planet interacting with 'alien' intelligence to SEED the human consciousness for its grand programmed destiny to BRING the alien consciousness (physically on Gaia in the form of alligators, but metaphysically in 'ET-land' in 'outer space') and theGain consciousness together in CONTACT. 20 Million years ago, the Primate Evolution leading to Modern Man began in the oldest MONKEY found in the Miocene. So in terms of fossil evidence, MonkeyMan entered the Gaian theatres and a new lineage, deviating from the primate 'tree of life' began. In the Ogliocene about 30 Million years ago all primates (lineages going back to about 65 Million years ago to the extinction of the Dinosaurs and the end of the Mesozoic Era) became extinct except in Africa and Southern-Asia, due to the changing climate (sounds familiar?) and the formation of the Antarctic Ice. Your 'wonderful world' is even more profound than the most daring of utopian futurists have hitherto imagined. But yes, for any cosmic civilisation to travel intergalactically and extragalactically requires not only a wormhole technology; but demands a planetary consciousness as holographic fractal of itself to 'energize' this technology. I'll end here, but shall answer questions, if so asked. John Shadow |
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01-04-2010, 05:54 AM | #12 |
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you might want to add, another option
~a timeless spark of energy, that knows NOT iTs beginning, NOR iTs end~iT just iS what iT iS |
01-04-2010, 06:02 AM | #13 |
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Yes, the "Death does not exist" option.
Very true. Maybe " It doesn't matter" comes close. |
01-04-2010, 06:09 AM | #14 |
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to every beginning there must be an end and with that end starts another journey . another journey into the heart of your imagination, so you are spinning round and round. i do not believe in one god as i think we are all gods playing a very complex game that is within another game. when death comes for you that just means you are needed somewhere else. you dont have to like it but YOU created it.
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01-04-2010, 06:12 AM | #15 |
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When death comes I think I will be filled with anticipation. Maybe that's not the right word.... There's almost a feeling of excitement, but I also want to enjoy my time here. I mean, what's the rush? This time we live in is off the wall, CRAZY, scary, exciting, and maybe the way things are is exactly the way they are supposed to be? After all, if everything was perfect, what would be the point in coming here? We could just stay where we were. Part of this experience, I believe, is trying to make it better for others. Learning to cope with hardships, learning to react with dignity, and the obvious... learning to love and forgive. And have as much fun as you can doing it!!
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01-04-2010, 06:20 AM | #16 |
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01-04-2010, 06:51 AM | #17 |
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I'm so excited knowing I'm immortal with this endless adventure in front of me. This is how I see it.... I use to be kind of an atheist but had some events happened in my life and damn! It turned me around! So death is great, it's BIRTH that sucks! haha
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01-04-2010, 07:15 AM | #19 |
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Most people consider me strange because I look forward to the moment of death when I cross over again because I know it's a transition into another form of existence, much better than this. Our human body is just a shell we exist in while our soul is here on Earth learning what we came to learn, teaching what we came to teach. When we serve our purpose and learn our lessons here, we shed our human skin and our soul moves on...we've incarnated many times before and we lose our memory of other lives each time we are born.
For me, this lifetime has felt more like I'm here to do a job, or serve a purpose to help others because I've never particularly liked being here this time around. I love the Earth, but hate whats being done to destroy it, I love people but it pains me to see so much poverty, war and hatred. There is so much waste, pollution and environmental destruction its painful to watch the planet deteriorate.... I'm a very spiritual person caught up in a materialistic world and have never had a lot of money, so it's been difficult to say I enjoy life when it's always been a struggle surviving...it's hard watching the planet and civilizations crumble and not have the power to change anything. There are many times I've wondered if death would be a better alternative, because I know life on the other side is a good thing. Now don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean I'm suicidal....it's a perspective I have on death. I also believe that life is sacred and it's not my choice to take my own life, regardless of good the alternative might seem. I'm here for a reason and it's not my decision to decide when my purpose has been served. So no, I don't believe death is a bad thing at all.... |
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Unavoidable.
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