Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? *READ*

Braydog · 03-20-2009, 10:10 AM

Not sure if this is a repost, but i just found this.

http://www.kansascity.com/116/story/1086524.html

"I was going down the list and thinking, 'Check, that's me,'" he said. "I'm a Ron Paul supporter, check. I talk about the North American union, check. I've got the 'America: Freedom to Fascism' video loaned out to somebody right now. So that means I'm a domestic terrorist? Because I've got a video about the Federal Reserve?"

Pretty intense!!!

BROOK · 03-20-2009, 04:55 PM

Good find Kiddo Interesting coming from a main stream new source

Dantheman62 · 03-20-2009, 05:25 PM

Ah Missouri, the "Show Me" state, all they're doing is showing us what kind of idiots they are! LOL

peaceandlove · 03-21-2009, 12:01 AM

I was just listening to a video interview yesterday with Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party and from what I could tell, it appears as though Ron Paul, Bob Barr of the Libertarian Party and Chuck Baldwin (all indicated as participants) are discussing a lawsuit against the State of Missouri.

If only I could remember which interview that was, as you can tell I watch a lot of them. I will get back to the thread as soon as I find it.

P a L

Ok, here are a couple options for March 19th interviews of Chuck Baldwin regarding the Missouri situation:

http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=883

Oops, those aren't very direct, still checking for audio or video links.

COMPLETE ALEX JONES SHOW 3/19/2009: http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-alex...k-baldwin.html
SEE BELOW for link to Chuck Baldwin PORTION ONLY

peaceandlove · 03-21-2009, 12:25 AM

Oops, posted twice, see below.

peaceandlove · 03-21-2009, 12:27 AM

Direct Link for the Chuck Baldwin portion of the Alex Jones Show.

Chuck Baldwin commends the person who forwarded the information to Alex who was first to break the news.

"We (Ron, Bob and Chuck) have co-signed a letter to the Governor and respective parties demaning that they repudiate this report and apologize to the supporters of those who supported us!" Baldwin reads the letter live in this video, they have given the Governor 3 days to repudiate.

Video Part 1 (10:59): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31lvQJiuPcM

The whole Alex Jones Show link in the thread above is worthwhile listening to also. (Other topics include cutting off health care to the troops.)

peaceandlove · 03-24-2009, 02:55 AM

Ron Paul on Glenn Beck "MIAC" Fox 3/23/2009

Report: Militia members often display libertarian material.

Video (3:56): http://www.campaignforliberty.com/bl...cpg=1#comments

orthodoxymoron · 03-24-2009, 03:16 AM

Ron Paul supporters are constitutionalists. They support the U.S. Constitution. This is the foundation of the United States of America. Those who are in opposition to the Constitution are destroying the foundation of this country. What would be a proper term for those who are attempting to destroy the foundation of the United States and bring about it's controlled demolition? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

peaceandlove · 03-24-2009, 06:52 PM

'Fusion Centers' Expand Criteria to Identify Militia Members

Do you like Ron Paul or oppose abortion? You may be a member of a militia, according to a new report by a government information collection agency.

By Joshua Rhett Miller
FOXNews.com
Monday, March 23, 2009

If you're an anti-abortion activist, or if you display political paraphernalia supporting a third-party candidate or a certain Republican member of Congress, if you possess subversive literature, you very well might be a member of a domestic paramilitary group.

That's according to "The Modern Militia Movement," a report by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC), a government collective that identifies the warning signs of potential domestic terrorists for law enforcement communities.

"Due to the current economical and political situation, a lush environment for militia activity has been created," the Feb. 20 report reads. "Unemployment rates are high, as well as costs of living expenses. Additionally, President Elect Barrack [sic] Obama is seen as tight on gun control and many extremists fear that he will enact firearms confiscations."

MIAC is one of 58 so-called "fusion centers" nationwide that were created by the Department of Homeland Security, in part, to collect local intelligence that authorities can use to combat terrorism and related criminal activities. More than $254 million from fiscal years 2004-2007 went to state and local governments to support the fusion centers, according to the DHS Web site.

Article continues: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...litia-members/

peaceandlove · 03-26-2009, 09:32 PM

Constitution Party Issues Missouri Travel Advisory!

See MIAC REPORT and LETTERS TO AND FROM MISSOURI DEPT. OF PUBLIC SAFETY at bottom of page.

Lancaster, PA (March 25, 2009) The Constitution Party has issued a warning to Americans traveling within the state of Missouri that they might be considered a threat by law enforcement if they display certain bumper stickers on their cars. A recent report issued through the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) titled "The Modern Militia Movement" was released with the approval of Missouri Governor Jay Nixon and the Missouri State Police. It labels Americans with a variety of political beliefs as potential "militia members", "domestic terrorists" and "radicals".

The Constitution Party decries this report as political profiling and strongly suggests those considering a trip to the Show Me state be aware of the possibility they could be pulled over by a Missouri State Police officer simply for displaying a politically oriented sticker on their vehicles.

In the MIAC report, those who support 3rd party candidates like Constitution Party presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin and Libertarian Bob Barr as well as Congressman Ron Paul were labeled "dangerous" and a "threat" to law enforcement.

The Constitution Party’s Chuck Baldwin voiced outrage saying: "This is a classic case of broad-brushed police profiling. Can you imagine the fallout of this preposterous report had the names Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Maxine Waters been used instead of the names Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr?"

According to the MIAC report labeled "law enforcement sensitive" those considered a threat include citizens against:

Gun control
Illegal immigration
Abortion
The United Nations
The North American Union
The Federal Reserve
The IRS
Unconstitutional Mandatory Universal Service Programs

Baldwin went on to say: "...At least 75% of the American people would oppose at least one or more of these... According to the MIAC report that is sufficient to make them potential dangerous "militia members."

In response to the MIAC report, the three candidates wrote a letter to Missouri governor Jay Nixon demanding retraction of defamatory and inaccurate characterizations.

The state issued an "apology" to the three men but made no mention of clearing up the myriad other inaccuracies found in the report. The soft "apology" actually blamed those who were profiled saying they "misinterpreted" the report!

In addition to issuing the Travel Advisory, the Constitution Party is encouraging all liberty-minded Americans to contact Missouri governor Jay Nixon to tell him to remove all MIAC report references which cast political opinion in a negative light.

Governor J. Nixon may be contacted at:

P.O. Box 749
Jefferson, MO 65102
Tel: 573-751-4905
Fax: 573-751-5399

MIAC STRATEGIC REPORT 2/20/2009
THE MODERN MILITIA MOVEMENT
PDF: http://documents.scribd.com/docs/1xd...npsq67kt0c.pdf

LETTER FROM PAUL, BARR AND BALDWIN TO GOVERNOR OF MISSOURI 3/20/2009
PDF: http://www.infowars.com/media/miac_letter.pdf

APOLOGY LETTER FROM THE DIRECTOR OF DEPT. OF PUBLIC SAFETY 3/23/2009
PDF: http://www.news-leader.com/assets/pdf/DO131243323.PDF

peaceandlove · 03-28-2009, 05:33 AM

Well, if this is what happens when people stand up, can you imagine what a wonderful world we would have if more people had less fear!

Missouri Government Backs Down

Posted by Anthony Gregory on 03/26/09 11:30 AM

The state of Missouri has retracted the infamous militia report: This is thanks to the grassroots activists who protested and defended their rights -- a very many active members of the Campaign for Liberty as well as countless others who expressed their concern about this document.

This demonstrates one of the most important constraints on government power: public opinion. A determined minority can shape opinion and a people will retrain the government insofar as they believe strongly in freedom. On this particular invasion of the Constitution, enough voices loudly protested and enough people were outraged that the government pulled back.

Peaceful activism and efforts to change public opinion are what, in the long run, make the most difference. This is why big government often fears the ideas of liberty even more than antisocial, violent agitators.

Source: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/bl...cpg=1#comments

STATE RETRACTS MILITIA REPORT

Nixon withdraws support amid growing backlash.

CHAD LIVENGOOD • NEWS-LEADER • MARCH 26, 2009

Jefferson City -- Gov. Jay Nixon's administration on Wednesday made an about-face on a controversial militia profiling report, retracting the document in the face of growing criticism.

Missouri Highway Patrol Superintendent James F. Keathley ordered the Missouri Information Analysis Center to "permanently cease distribution" of the Feb. 20 report, which labels fundamentalist Christians, members of third-party political movements, strict followers of the U.S. Constitution and people who oppose taxes, abortion and illegal immigration as possible members of militias.

Nixon and officials in his administration have previously defended MIAC's report, which has brought national attention to the secretive intelligence-gathering work of state fusion centers.

Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder spoke out against the report, saying it unfairly maligns "Christians, anti-abortionists and advocates for protecting our borders and supporters of certain political candidates as potential threats to the public safety."

Article continues: http://www.news-leader.com/article/2009903260388

Peaceful Dissent and Government Witch Hunts

By Anthony Gregory

Excerpt:

Quote:

Bush thundered that "you are either with us or with the terrorists." In December, 2001, Attorney General John Ashcroft lashed out at Americans concerned about civil liberties:

"To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this. Your tactics only aid terrorists, for they erode our national unity and diminish our resolve. They give ammunition to America's enemies, and pause to America's friends. They encourage people of good will to remain silent in the face of evil."

As most readers of this are probably aware, the Campaign for Liberty has been singled out, along with a few other political groups, in a leaked Missouri state government report, "The Modern Militia Movement." The document tells state officials to be on the lookout for violent extremists while conflating them with pretty much anyone who criticizes the government. Perhaps most troubling, the information apparently comes from the Department of Homeland Security, meaning that similar documents could be circulating in states other than Missouri.

Complete article: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=28

peaceandlove · 03-28-2009, 08:33 PM

EMAIL received from Campaign for Liberty

MIAC Report Completely Retracted

March 28, 2009

Dear Friend of Liberty,

Although it sometimes seems that freedom is shrinking everywhere we turn, the fact is a powerful grassroots stand can still stop Big Government bureaucrats in their tracks.

That is exactly what happened to the Missouri Highway Patrol this week after being forced by your vocal outrage to retract the incendiary Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) report.

This report identified peaceful, freedom-loving Americans as possible security threats, simply for supporting Ron Paul or opposing tyrannical government.

Faced with an overwhelming public outcry, Missouri officials quickly started backpedaling, removing references to Ron Paul and Campaign for Liberty.

Then, just hours before Dr. Paul’s plane touched down in St. Louis to lead our Celebration of Freedom rally Friday night, the Missouri Highway Patrol officially retracted the entire offending document.

The Missouri Highway Patrol will be performing an investigation into the origin of the report. Lieutenant Governor Peter Kinder has even called for the suspension of the Director of Public Safety until those responsible have been identified.

Click here to read the news report. Missouri retracts report linking militias, 3rd party candidates: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/politics/story/64917.html

It is no surprise that oversight and accountability are in short supply at the MIAC, a Big Government “fusion center” combining federal, state and local agencies into an unconstitutional mess of a bureaucracy. But government disorganization is no excuse for making political profiling and persecution into official policy.

This victory for the grassroots freedom movement, coupled with this weekend’s Campaign for Liberty Regional Conference in St. Louis, marks a great moment for liberty in Missouri and all of America.

This week we saw that politicians still respond to the voices of their constituents.

This week we saw that freedom can triumph over tyranny when we unite to take a stand.

In Liberty,

John Tate
President, Campaign for Liberty

P.S. This week Campaign for Liberty showed that freedom-loving Americans will not be silenced by political persecution. We successfully fought for the retraction of the MIAC report, and we met in St. Louis to celebrate freedom’s victory over tyranny.

Please click here: https://www.campaignforliberty.com/c....php?projid=23 to donate so that Campaign for Liberty can always afford to stand up against tyranny in all its forms.

Campaign for Liberty Website: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

peaceandlove · 04-07-2009, 05:06 AM

Steve Bierfeldt Detained by TSA in St. Louis, Missouri 3/29/2009

Steve Bierfeldt from Campaign for Liberty tries to board airplane after Campaign for Liberty Regional Conference in St. Louis, Missouri detained by TSA for carrying $4700 in cash.

Mr. Bierfeldt happened to be in possession of a new telephone in his pocket that you just tap and the phone becomes a tape recorder and 85 - 90 percent of his encounter was recorded.

Bierfeldt interviewed on Judge Napolitano's Freedom Watch 4/1/2009
Video Part 4 (10:00): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1NJM...eature=channel
Video Part 5 (continues into this video)(10:00): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mX2z...eature=channel

Washington Times Covers TSA Detainment

Posted by Andrew Ward on 04/06/09 12:33 PM

By now, you've undoubtedly heard about Steve Bierfeldt's troubling encounter with St. Louis TSA. If not, be sure to watch his interview with Judge Napolitano on Freedom Watch here.

Word is spreading about the incident. The Washington Times ran a story today covering TSA's harassment of Steve on March 29th, including follow-up comments from the victim on his treatment and what his stand meant to him:

Article continues: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/bl...cpg=1#comments

Braydog · 04-07-2009, 05:44 AM

Awesome input Peaceandlove!

Dominic · 04-07-2009, 09:06 AM

More illusion, Ron Paul is two faced. So, If we have one of his stickers on our car who do we really support?

Machinamentum · 04-07-2009, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

More illusion, Ron Paul is two faced. So, If we have one of his stickers on our car who do we really support?

I've been thinking that maybe Ron Paul has recently been compromised. So lets see the last 40 Bills from the Dr.

Bill Status Last Action
H.R. 1497: Treat Physicians Fairly Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 12, 2009
H.R. 1496: Child Health Care Affordability Act Introduced Mar 12, 2009
H.R. 1498: Freedom From Unnecessary Litigation Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 12, 2009
H.R. 1767: Fair Housing Tax Credit Extension Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 26, 2009
H.R. 1654: Cures Can Be Found Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 19, 2009
H.R. 1420: Thrift Savings Fund Improvement Act Introduced Mar 10, 2009
H.R. 1419: Freedom to Bank Act Introduced Mar 10, 2009
H.R. 1493: Quality Health Care Coalition Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 12, 2009
H.R. 1495: Comprehensive Health Care Reform Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 12, 2009
H.R. 1494: Nursing Home Emergency Assistance Act Introduced Mar 12, 2009
H.R. 1953: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow the Hope Scholarship Credit to be used for elementary and secondary education expenses. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.R. 1952: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow a credit against income tax for amounts contributed to charitable organizations which provide elementary or secondary school scholarships and for contributions of, and for, instructional materials and materials for extracurricular activities. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.R. 1954: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to make higher education more affordable by providing a full tax deduction for higher education expenses and interest on student loans. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.Res. 216: Amending the Rules of the House of Representatives to ensure that Members have a reasonable amount of time to read legislation that will be voted upon. Introduced Mar 5, 2009
H.R. 1955: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exclude from gross income amounts received on the sale of animals which are raised and sold as part of an educational program. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.R. 1866: To amend the Controlled Substances Act to exclude industrial hemp from the definition of marihuana, and for other purposes. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.R. 1768: Energy Efficient and Environmentally Friendly Automobile Tax Credit Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 26, 2009
H.R. 1949: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide a tax credit for elementary and secondary school teachers. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.R. 1951: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow individuals a credit against income tax for tuition and related expenses for public and nonpublic elementary and secondary education. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.R. 1950: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide a tax credit for professional school personnel in prekindergarten, kindergarten, and grades 1 through 12. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.R. 220: Identity Theft Prevention Act of 2009 Introduced Jan 6, 2009
H.R. 219: Social Security Preservation Act of 2009 Introduced Jan 6, 2009
H.R. 539: We the People Act Introduced Jan 14, 2009
H.R. 779: Tax Free Tips Act of 2009 Introduced Jan 28, 2009
H.R. 778: To authorize the interstate traffic of unpasteurized milk and milk products that are packaged for direct human consumption. Introduced Jan 28, 2009
H.R. 161: Social Security Beneficiary Tax Reduction Act Introduced Jan 6, 2009
H.R. 160: Social Security for Americans Only Act of 2009 Introduced Jan 6, 2009
H.R. 162: Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act Introduced Jan 6, 2009
H.R. 164: Seniors' Health Care Freedom Act of 2009 Introduced Jan 6, 2009
H.R. 163: Prescription Drug Affordability Act Introduced Jan 6, 2009
H.R. 1233: Taxpayers' Freedom of Conscience Act of 2009 Introduced Feb 26, 2009
H.R. 1207: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009 Introduced Feb 26, 2009
H.R. 1311: Unemployment Assistance Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 4, 2009
H.R. 1348: Federal Reserve Sunshine Act Introduced Mar 5, 2009
H.R. 1312: Unemployed Tax Relief Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 4, 2009
H.R. 961: To suspend temporarily the duty on phosphoric acid, lanthanum salt, cerium terbium-doped. Introduced Feb 10, 2009
H.R. 833: Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act Introduced Feb 3, 2009
H.R. 962: To suspend temporarily the duty on lutetium oxide. Introduced Feb 10, 2009
H.R. 1146: American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2009 Introduced Feb 24, 2009

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...sponsor=400311

Machinamentum · 04-07-2009, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machinamentum

I've been thinking that maybe Ron Paul has recently been compromised. So lets see the last 40 Bills from the Dr.

Bill Status Last Action
H.R. 1497: Treat Physicians Fairly Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 12, 2009
H.R. 1496: Child Health Care Affordability Act Introduced Mar 12, 2009
H.R. 1498: Freedom From Unnecessary Litigation Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 12, 2009
H.R. 1767: Fair Housing Tax Credit Extension Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 26, 2009
H.R. 1654: Cures Can Be Found Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 19, 2009
H.R. 1420: Thrift Savings Fund Improvement Act Introduced Mar 10, 2009
H.R. 1419: Freedom to Bank Act Introduced Mar 10, 2009
H.R. 1493: Quality Health Care Coalition Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 12, 2009
H.R. 1495: Comprehensive Health Care Reform Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 12, 2009
H.R. 1494: Nursing Home Emergency Assistance Act Introduced Mar 12, 2009
H.R. 1953: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow the Hope Scholarship Credit to be used for elementary and secondary education expenses. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.R. 1952: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow a credit against income tax for amounts contributed to charitable organizations which provide elementary or secondary school scholarships and for contributions of, and for, instructional materials and materials for extracurricular activities. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.R. 1954: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to make higher education more affordable by providing a full tax deduction for higher education expenses and interest on student loans. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.Res. 216: Amending the Rules of the House of Representatives to ensure that Members have a reasonable amount of time to read legislation that will be voted upon. Introduced Mar 5, 2009
H.R. 1955: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exclude from gross income amounts received on the sale of animals which are raised and sold as part of an educational program. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.R. 1866: To amend the Controlled Substances Act to exclude industrial hemp from the definition of marihuana, and for other purposes. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.R. 1768: Energy Efficient and Environmentally Friendly Automobile Tax Credit Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 26, 2009
H.R. 1949: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide a tax credit for elementary and secondary school teachers. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.R. 1951: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow individuals a credit against income tax for tuition and related expenses for public and nonpublic elementary and secondary education. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.R. 1950: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide a tax credit for professional school personnel in prekindergarten, kindergarten, and grades 1 through 12. Introduced Apr 2, 2009
H.R. 220: Identity Theft Prevention Act of 2009 Introduced Jan 6, 2009
H.R. 219: Social Security Preservation Act of 2009 Introduced Jan 6, 2009
H.R. 539: We the People Act Introduced Jan 14, 2009
H.R. 779: Tax Free Tips Act of 2009 Introduced Jan 28, 2009
H.R. 778: To authorize the interstate traffic of unpasteurized milk and milk products that are packaged for direct human consumption. Introduced Jan 28, 2009
H.R. 161: Social Security Beneficiary Tax Reduction Act Introduced Jan 6, 2009
H.R. 160: Social Security for Americans Only Act of 2009 Introduced Jan 6, 2009
H.R. 162: Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act Introduced Jan 6, 2009
H.R. 164: Seniors' Health Care Freedom Act of 2009 Introduced Jan 6, 2009
H.R. 163: Prescription Drug Affordability Act Introduced Jan 6, 2009
H.R. 1233: Taxpayers' Freedom of Conscience Act of 2009 Introduced Feb 26, 2009
H.R. 1207: Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009 Introduced Feb 26, 2009
H.R. 1311: Unemployment Assistance Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 4, 2009
H.R. 1348: Federal Reserve Sunshine Act Introduced Mar 5, 2009
H.R. 1312: Unemployed Tax Relief Act of 2009 Introduced Mar 4, 2009
H.R. 961: To suspend temporarily the duty on phosphoric acid, lanthanum salt, cerium terbium-doped. Introduced Feb 10, 2009
H.R. 833: Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act Introduced Feb 3, 2009
H.R. 962: To suspend temporarily the duty on lutetium oxide. Introduced Feb 10, 2009
H.R. 1146: American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2009 Introduced Feb 24, 2009

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...sponsor=400311

I don't know it look like to me he's a terrorist!

Braydog · 04-07-2009, 10:19 PM

Ron Paul on Real Time w/ Bill Maher 02/20/2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5lb0l3sYBo

*edit* Another great interview on Ron Paul =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYDt7kC3Z0

777 The Great Work · 04-07-2009, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Ah Missouri, the "Show Me" state, all they're doing is showing us what kind of idiots they are! LOL

Show ME MISERY.

Dantheman62 · 04-07-2009, 11:16 PM

Dantheman62 · 04-07-2009, 11:23 PM

I don't support anybody but myself!
I am my own president!
I am my own government!
I make my own laws!
I police myself!
I don't or won't have bumper stickers on my car, just chrome so I can see myself,
because the only truth is within me!
I believe in keeping things simple!

BROOK · 04-07-2009, 11:27 PM

There you have it ...the new improved
enlightened Dantheman

Dantheman62 · 04-08-2009, 01:13 AM

LOL, I save a lot of money on campaigns too!

peaceandlove · 04-12-2009, 02:27 AM

Steve Bierfeldt, TSA detainee, was invited back to Judge Napolitano's "Freedom Watch" this week 4/8/2009 and interviewed live via Satellite or Skype. A fuller version of the conversation between the TSA and Bierfeldt also broadcast this week.

Judge's Napolitano's "Freedom Watch" Guests are Daniel Hannan - British MEP, Campaign for Liberty's Steve Bierfeldt (second guest), Michael German - ACLU, Peter Schiff and Michelle Muccio, as well as Lew Rockwell via phone.

Video Series: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/bl...cpg=1#comments

This video series was also posted under Economy and Currency, on a continuing thread of Judge Napolitano's Weekly Fox News "Freedom Watch" show. (So you may have seen this already.)

peaceandlove · 04-27-2009, 06:11 PM

I was looking for any recent Naomi Wolf videos and ran across this!!!

FEMA in Missouri: Founding Fathers are what?

Back in July, 2001 we have a clip from a FEMA training meeting in Missouri calling our founding fathers Terrorists? Training was for state and local Police.

Video (2:28):

How they can track you.

Echelon Conspiracy (2009 Film Trailer)

Video (6:18):

03-20-2009, 10:10 AM	#1
Braydog Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 42	Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ Not sure if this is a repost, but i just found this. http://www.kansascity.com/116/story/1086524.html "I was going down the list and thinking, 'Check, that's me,'" he said. "I'm a Ron Paul supporter, check. I talk about the North American union, check. I've got the 'America: Freedom to Fascism' video loaned out to somebody right now. So that means I'm a domestic terrorist? Because I've got a video about the Federal Reserve?" Pretty intense!!!

03-20-2009, 04:55 PM	#2
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ *Good find Kiddo Interesting coming from a main stream new source*

03-20-2009, 05:25 PM	#3
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ Ah Missouri, the "Show Me" state, all they're doing is showing us what kind of idiots they are! LOL

03-21-2009, 12:01 AM	#4
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	Re: Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ I was just listening to a video interview yesterday with Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party and from what I could tell, it appears as though Ron Paul, Bob Barr of the Libertarian Party and Chuck Baldwin (all indicated as participants) are discussing a lawsuit against the State of Missouri. If only I could remember which interview that was, as you can tell I watch a lot of them. I will get back to the thread as soon as I find it. P a L Ok, here are a couple options for March 19th interviews of Chuck Baldwin regarding the Missouri situation: http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=883 Oops, those aren't very direct, still checking for audio or video links. COMPLETE ALEX JONES SHOW 3/19/2009: http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-alex...k-baldwin.html SEE BELOW for link to Chuck Baldwin PORTION ONLY Last edited by peaceandlove; 03-21-2009 at 12:41 AM.

03-21-2009, 12:25 AM	#5
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	Re: Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ Oops, posted twice, see below. Last edited by peaceandlove; 03-21-2009 at 12:38 AM. Reason: Posted Twice

03-21-2009, 12:27 AM	#6
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	Re: Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ Direct Link for the Chuck Baldwin portion of the Alex Jones Show. Chuck Baldwin commends the person who forwarded the information to Alex who was first to break the news. "We (Ron, Bob and Chuck) have co-signed a letter to the Governor and respective parties demaning that they repudiate this report and apologize to the supporters of those who supported us!" Baldwin reads the letter live in this video, they have given the Governor 3 days to repudiate. Video Part 1 (10:59): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31lvQJiuPcM The whole Alex Jones Show link in the thread above is worthwhile listening to also. (Other topics include cutting off health care to the troops.) Last edited by peaceandlove; 04-07-2009 at 05:58 AM.

03-24-2009, 02:55 AM	#7
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	Ron Paul on Glenn Beck "MIAC" Fox 3/23/2009 Ron Paul on Glenn Beck "MIAC" Fox 3/23/2009 Report: Militia members often display libertarian material. Video (3:56): http://www.campaignforliberty.com/bl...cpg=1#comments

03-24-2009, 03:16 AM	#8
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ Ron Paul supporters are constitutionalists. They support the U.S. Constitution. This is the foundation of the United States of America. Those who are in opposition to the Constitution are destroying the foundation of this country. What would be a proper term for those who are attempting to destroy the foundation of the United States and bring about it's controlled demolition? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

03-24-2009, 06:52 PM	#9
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	'Fusion Centers' Expand Criteria to Identify Militia Members 'Fusion Centers' Expand Criteria to Identify Militia Members Do you like Ron Paul or oppose abortion? You may be a member of a militia, according to a new report by a government information collection agency. By Joshua Rhett Miller FOXNews.com Monday, March 23, 2009 If you're an anti-abortion activist, or if you display political paraphernalia supporting a third-party candidate or a certain Republican member of Congress, if you possess subversive literature, you very well might be a member of a domestic paramilitary group. That's according to "The Modern Militia Movement," a report by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC), a government collective that identifies the warning signs of potential domestic terrorists for law enforcement communities. "Due to the current economical and political situation, a lush environment for militia activity has been created," the Feb. 20 report reads. "Unemployment rates are high, as well as costs of living expenses. Additionally, President Elect Barrack [sic] Obama is seen as tight on gun control and many extremists fear that he will enact firearms confiscations." MIAC is one of 58 so-called "fusion centers" nationwide that were created by the Department of Homeland Security, in part, to collect local intelligence that authorities can use to combat terrorism and related criminal activities. More than $254 million from fiscal years 2004-2007 went to state and local governments to support the fusion centers, according to the DHS Web site. Article continues: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...litia-members/

03-26-2009, 09:32 PM	#10
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	Constitution Party Issues Missouri Travel Advisory! Constitution Party Issues Missouri Travel Advisory! See MIAC REPORT and LETTERS TO AND FROM MISSOURI DEPT. OF PUBLIC SAFETY at bottom of page. Lancaster, PA (March 25, 2009) The Constitution Party has issued a warning to Americans traveling within the state of Missouri that they might be considered a threat by law enforcement if they display certain bumper stickers on their cars. A recent report issued through the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) titled "The Modern Militia Movement" was released with the approval of Missouri Governor Jay Nixon and the Missouri State Police. It labels Americans with a variety of political beliefs as potential "militia members", "domestic terrorists" and "radicals". The Constitution Party decries this report as political profiling and strongly suggests those considering a trip to the Show Me state be aware of the possibility they could be pulled over by a Missouri State Police officer simply for displaying a politically oriented sticker on their vehicles. In the MIAC report, those who support 3rd party candidates like Constitution Party presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin and Libertarian Bob Barr as well as Congressman Ron Paul were labeled "dangerous" and a "threat" to law enforcement. The Constitution Party’s Chuck Baldwin voiced outrage saying: "This is a classic case of broad-brushed police profiling. Can you imagine the fallout of this preposterous report had the names Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Maxine Waters been used instead of the names Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr?" According to the MIAC report labeled "law enforcement sensitive" those considered a threat include citizens against: Gun control Illegal immigration Abortion The United Nations The North American Union The Federal Reserve The IRS Unconstitutional Mandatory Universal Service Programs Baldwin went on to say: "...At least 75% of the American people would oppose at least one or more of these... According to the MIAC report that is sufficient to make them potential dangerous "militia members." In response to the MIAC report, the three candidates wrote a letter to Missouri governor Jay Nixon demanding retraction of defamatory and inaccurate characterizations. The state issued an "apology" to the three men but made no mention of clearing up the myriad other inaccuracies found in the report. The soft "apology" actually blamed those who were profiled saying they "misinterpreted" the report! In addition to issuing the Travel Advisory, the Constitution Party is encouraging all liberty-minded Americans to contact Missouri governor Jay Nixon to tell him to remove all MIAC report references which cast political opinion in a negative light. Governor J. Nixon may be contacted at: P.O. Box 749 Jefferson, MO 65102 Tel: 573-751-4905 Fax: 573-751-5399 MIAC STRATEGIC REPORT 2/20/2009 THE MODERN MILITIA MOVEMENT PDF: http://documents.scribd.com/docs/1xd...npsq67kt0c.pdf LETTER FROM PAUL, BARR AND BALDWIN TO GOVERNOR OF MISSOURI 3/20/2009 PDF: http://www.infowars.com/media/miac_letter.pdf APOLOGY LETTER FROM THE DIRECTOR OF DEPT. OF PUBLIC SAFETY 3/23/2009 PDF: http://www.news-leader.com/assets/pdf/DO131243323.PDF

03-28-2009, 08:33 PM	#12
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	EMAIL received from Campaign for Liberty EMAIL received from Campaign for Liberty MIAC Report Completely Retracted March 28, 2009 Dear Friend of Liberty, Although it sometimes seems that freedom is shrinking everywhere we turn, the fact is a powerful grassroots stand can still stop Big Government bureaucrats in their tracks. That is exactly what happened to the Missouri Highway Patrol this week after being forced by your vocal outrage to retract the incendiary Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) report. This report identified peaceful, freedom-loving Americans as possible security threats, simply for supporting Ron Paul or opposing tyrannical government. Faced with an overwhelming public outcry, Missouri officials quickly started backpedaling, removing references to Ron Paul and Campaign for Liberty. Then, just hours before Dr. Paul’s plane touched down in St. Louis to lead our Celebration of Freedom rally Friday night, the Missouri Highway Patrol officially retracted the entire offending document. The Missouri Highway Patrol will be performing an investigation into the origin of the report. Lieutenant Governor Peter Kinder has even called for the suspension of the Director of Public Safety until those responsible have been identified. Click here to read the news report. Missouri retracts report linking militias, 3rd party candidates: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/politics/story/64917.html It is no surprise that oversight and accountability are in short supply at the MIAC, a Big Government “fusion center” combining federal, state and local agencies into an unconstitutional mess of a bureaucracy. But government disorganization is no excuse for making political profiling and persecution into official policy. This victory for the grassroots freedom movement, coupled with this weekend’s Campaign for Liberty Regional Conference in St. Louis, marks a great moment for liberty in Missouri and all of America. This week we saw that politicians still respond to the voices of their constituents. This week we saw that freedom can triumph over tyranny when we unite to take a stand. In Liberty, John Tate President, Campaign for Liberty P.S. This week Campaign for Liberty showed that freedom-loving Americans will not be silenced by political persecution. We successfully fought for the retraction of the MIAC report, and we met in St. Louis to celebrate freedom’s victory over tyranny. Please click here: https://www.campaignforliberty.com/c....php?projid=23 to donate so that Campaign for Liberty can always afford to stand up against tyranny in all its forms. Campaign for Liberty Website: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

04-07-2009, 05:06 AM	#13
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	Re: Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ Steve Bierfeldt Detained by TSA in St. Louis, Missouri 3/29/2009 Steve Bierfeldt from Campaign for Liberty tries to board airplane after Campaign for Liberty Regional Conference in St. Louis, Missouri detained by TSA for carrying $4700 in cash. Mr. Bierfeldt happened to be in possession of a new telephone in his pocket that you just tap and the phone becomes a tape recorder and 85 - 90 percent of his encounter was recorded. Bierfeldt interviewed on Judge Napolitano's Freedom Watch 4/1/2009 Video Part 4 (10:00): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1NJM...eature=channel Video Part 5 (continues into this video)(10:00): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mX2z...eature=channel Washington Times Covers TSA Detainment Posted by Andrew Ward on 04/06/09 12:33 PM By now, you've undoubtedly heard about Steve Bierfeldt's troubling encounter with St. Louis TSA. If not, be sure to watch his interview with Judge Napolitano on Freedom Watch here. Word is spreading about the incident. The Washington Times ran a story today covering TSA's harassment of Steve on March 29th, including follow-up comments from the victim on his treatment and what his stand meant to him: Article continues: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/bl...cpg=1#comments Last edited by peaceandlove; 04-12-2009 at 02:09 AM.

04-07-2009, 05:44 AM	#14
Braydog Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 42	Re: Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ Awesome input Peaceandlove!

04-07-2009, 09:06 AM	#15
Dominic Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Edgewood, Wa. Posts: 302	Re: Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ More illusion, Ron Paul is two faced. So, If we have one of his stickers on our car who do we really support?

04-07-2009, 10:19 PM	#18
Braydog Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 42	Re: Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ Ron Paul on Real Time w/ Bill Maher 02/20/2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5lb0l3sYBo edit Another great interview on Ron Paul =) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYDt7kC3Z0 Last edited by Braydog; 04-07-2009 at 10:25 PM.

04-07-2009, 11:16 PM	#20
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ

04-07-2009, 11:23 PM	#21
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ I don't support anybody but myself! I am my own president! I am my own government! I make my own laws! I police myself! I don't or won't have bumper stickers on my car, just chrome so I can see myself, because the only truth is within me! I believe in keeping things simple!

04-07-2009, 11:27 PM	#22
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ There you have it ...the new improved enlightened Dantheman

04-08-2009, 01:13 AM	#23
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Ron Paul supporters are terrorists? READ LOL, I save a lot of money on campaigns too!

04-12-2009, 02:27 AM	#24
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	Steve Bierfeldt, detainee, interviewed live on Freedom Watch Steve Bierfeldt, TSA detainee, was invited back to Judge Napolitano's "Freedom Watch" this week 4/8/2009 and interviewed live via Satellite or Skype. A fuller version of the conversation between the TSA and Bierfeldt also broadcast this week. Judge's Napolitano's "Freedom Watch" Guests are Daniel Hannan - British MEP, Campaign for Liberty's Steve Bierfeldt (second guest), Michael German - ACLU, Peter Schiff and Michelle Muccio, as well as Lew Rockwell via phone. Video Series: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/bl...cpg=1#comments This video series was also posted under Economy and Currency, on a continuing thread of Judge Napolitano's Weekly Fox News "Freedom Watch" show. (So you may have seen this already.)

04-27-2009, 06:11 PM	#25
peaceandlove Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 2,776	FEMA in Missouri: Founding Fathers are what? I was looking for any recent Naomi Wolf videos and ran across this!!! FEMA in Missouri: Founding Fathers are what? Back in July, 2001 we have a clip from a FEMA training meeting in Missouri calling our founding fathers Terrorists? Training was for state and local Police. Video (2:28): How they can track you. Echelon Conspiracy (2009 Film Trailer) Video (6:18): Last edited by peaceandlove; 04-27-2009 at 06:15 PM.