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11-24-2008, 03:31 PM | #26 |
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Greg have your coffee first and see you soon I hope. Its dead to you perhaps but not to everyone. Anyway I have seen you have this reaction of 'and that's all I have to say' over and over again and you always come back because you are interested in what is said here......c'mon you are.
But if its your time to step off this stone and leap to another then that is good, all is change and change and then change again. Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go. We shall not cease from our exploration And at the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time --ts elliot |
11-24-2008, 03:36 PM | #27 | |
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I think that's a very valid point, it may well prevent a lot of new people from joining. Perhaps we could have a first month free type of deal, then after that if you want to continue you have to subscribe? [QUOTE=GregorArturo;86051]Ya know, Harper and raulduke I like ya, you guys speak truthfully. But I just woke up, and seriously I just have no energy for this anymore. These 'forums' I just seem to argue about ideologies instead of being constructive with my concepts, like all my experiences with forums have been for years. I'm just gonna be blunt and say it, Avalon is dead." Gregor, I'm sure you are a lovely being and are helping a lot of people which in my opinion is infinitely better than harming, however, you may not realize this but there are A LOT of other people on this planet who are doing the same and are not blowing their trumpets about it I wish you all the best but to say "Avalon is dead" so speaks the great Gregor???.....I'm sorry but please grow up! |
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11-24-2008, 03:47 PM | #28 | |
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You know how many Alex Jones DVDs I've seen? None. Heck, I haven't seen the Iron Man movie - I didn't have the money to go to the theater, and I don't have the twenty bucks to drop on the DVD. If B&K had only this forum, opened it for free, and then without warning sprung the subscription thing on us, I'd be screaming that something stinks in Rotterdam. But the interviews remain free, and I remember seeing on my first day in September a statement about how eventually they would convert the forum to subscription. I think that puts them "on the level" from day one, does it not? I also think that the administrators know there are some good posters who will refuse to pay on principle, and are willing to bend the rules and make a few exceptions here and there to keep em' here. That should say something. And, everything that gets posted remains read only for everyone - seekers will be able to get at what is posted. The only negative that will occur, is that future "good posters," who are not here yet, will refuse to share their insights here because it costs money. They'll click "post," they'll see "this ride is at least a dollar buddy," and being the free spirited enlightened thinkers that they are, will say, "no way" - one dollar or one hundred dollars. My suggestion to cure that would be to make all new sign ups free for one month, with the understanding they have to start kicking a buck at the end of the free trial. |
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11-24-2008, 03:48 PM | #29 | |
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[QUOTE=freekatz;86061]I think that's a very valid point, it may well prevent a lot of new people from joining. Perhaps we could have a first month free type of deal, then after that if you want to continue you have to subscribe?
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Freekatz beat me to the "first month free" idea - it is one that makes a lot of sense. |
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11-24-2008, 03:49 PM | #30 |
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After you say goodbye you are supposed to leave. That is how it works Y'all come back now, y'hear! |
11-24-2008, 03:58 PM | #31 |
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Does anybody know the exact date of the subscription deadline?
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11-24-2008, 04:03 PM | #32 | |
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11-24-2008, 04:07 PM | #33 | |
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People should understand all the money goes into PC interviews and gathering information not the forum. If I owned a florist I wouldn't charge more for the wrapping around the flowers than the flowers themself. I wouldn't charge the wrapping and give the flowers free. It just does not make any sense. It's bad. Real bad. Their choice, But I'm telling you if they are running out of money this isn't the way to solve it spiritually. From the start they should have used their supporters to fund them in a balanced way. |
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11-24-2008, 04:13 PM | #34 | |
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11-24-2008, 04:16 PM | #35 | |
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Many who posted a goodbye, like Gregor and myself, did so before anyone volunteered to sponsor us. And, for those who said goodbye and haven't found sponsors, the forum, up till now, remains free. Tossing a little bait in the water there Baggy? Was that the point? |
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11-24-2008, 04:26 PM | #38 |
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The truth is lots of people don`t post because they are afraid to post because some people here belittle what people have to say you can see it all over the place we should be helping one another not being critical of some one for what they have to say more often than not Ego and Emotion rule what people say.
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11-24-2008, 04:27 PM | #39 |
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Oh I thought Northern boys were tough................
You sound a little cornered, did you hit send then think of something better to say ? hehehehehe. Am I ugly too and is it your ball and are you taking it home now........ I was admiring the funny line someelse wrote, and it was very funny. c'mon ................... |
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11-24-2008, 05:10 PM | #41 | |
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elections which mean nothing. Douche bags and bananas, bring on the brass bands. Anything goes except the boiler plate topic. How about dwarf tossing, I haven't seen that yet at Avalon. You can dish it out, but you can't take it? Am I too subtle? From the very first day the forum went up it was stated and the intent to make it a pay site. You've had a two month reprieve. How do you spend the time? Contribute here, or contribute there, but do make an effort to stay on topic. Or find a forum appropriate for the content. Might I suggest "Flame Wars" http://neilgaimanboard.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/465601826 I still have four slots open for gifted memberships. Any takers? Last edited by Baggywrinkle; 11-24-2008 at 05:34 PM. |
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Baggy, do you even read what I write, or do you see my Avatar and go from there? |
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11-24-2008, 05:40 PM | #43 |
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I tend to not look very closely at off topic threads unless they are extremely interesting. Like Gregor's stonehenge thread or the oak island thread. Both of which should have been over at Camelot. I admit to giving in to temptation and answering both with a submission about John Coleman's work. But they do belong there and not here. |
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11-24-2008, 07:32 PM | #46 | |
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Since the Forum owners seems to have decided to roll in subscriptions, i will decide later and see what happens before taking decision. It's fair though, that we can still lurk in read-only mode... salute. |
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11-24-2008, 07:47 PM | #47 |
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I really enjoyed this forum, lots of information and positive people.
now it's all about money and subscriptions. All the best everyone, byeeee. Hobbit |
11-24-2008, 08:17 PM | #48 | |
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I casually check project Avalon every few days and occasionally make a post. I think my average posting is less than one a day. I havn't even watched half of project camelot's interviews - I hardly wait around for them and act like a sheep who is engaged in groupthink and a mode of docile non free thinking as you imply we all do. Who is we? Who are you even talking to? My only point earlier in this thread was simply that 1 dollar a month is next to nothing and I would gladly pay 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 dollars a month even though I only casually read and engage in this forum. Do you really think that your 400some odd posts have not been worth that? I know that money is absurd and hopefully someday we will transcend it (especially fiat fractional reserve banking notes), but unfortunately our current world still uses it. I work many many hours a week in a god damn mexican kitchen just to get by and I still end up having to spend a bit on a credit card. You aren't even employed - why don't you set up a lemonade stand and run it for an hour every week so that you can make a buck to contribute to the forum? Or you could walk around and collect some bottles. Or smoke one less joint a week. Or search under your couch cushions. There are plenty of options. Again, I mean this all with respect and certainly a sense of comedy. I try to have a very Zen-like attitude and I also think that everything is funny. I have no time for drama. Everyone is the center of their own universe and I think that it is very easy to get caught up in inflated self importance. I know I have. The advice I would give is the advice I give to myself, and that is to take ourselves much less seriously. Last edited by Irving; 11-24-2008 at 09:31 PM. |
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First, you just stereotyped the hell of me thinking I'm a pothead, that I don't have a job, and that I have all the free time in the world. And then also the assumption that I am speaking from purely from my ego, as many of you so think. If that was the case, I would not be speaking to you right now. As my voice is coming from above the ego, on the notion of a fundamental principal. The ego subliminally wants to be seen as separate and to survive. This principal goes beyond survival. Death is but a moment. These ideas live for an eternity. I leave it there, and you will hear no more of me on that regards. Namaste. |
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11-25-2008, 12:25 AM | #50 |
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Bill and Kerry are selfless individules who have spent time and money bringing forth material you would prior to the internet boom have had to go out and by a magazine and a book !
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