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Old 06-27-2009, 05:00 AM   #76
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Amazing.....so many dismissals on the various cases.......that alone points the figure squarely at Obama......if he was legit.....he wouldn't hesitate to come up with his papers.

No date for next hearing?
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Old 06-27-2009, 05:27 AM   #77
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Amazing.....so many dismissals on the various cases.......that alone points the figure squarely at Obama......if he was legit.....he wouldn't hesitate to come up with his papers.

No date for next hearing?
So far it looks like the judge is going to let the defendants get council and agrees it will take some time due to the number involved and their various positions. So, not sure on the dates, I just hope he does not allow too much time. He appears to want to get this case heard. We'll see.
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Old 06-27-2009, 05:31 AM   #78
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So far it looks like the judge is going to let the defendants get council and agrees it will take some time due to the number involved and their various positions. So, not sure on the dates, I just hope he does not allow too much time. He appears to want to get this case heard. We'll see.
For the sake of the American people & even the world thats watching closely, I hope it gets resolved very soon....enough time has been wasted & enough roadblocks put up.
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Old 06-27-2009, 05:35 AM   #79
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For the sake of the American people & even the world thats watching closely, I hope it gets resolved very soon....enough time has been wasted & enough roadblocks put up.
I found this:

CAMDEN, N.J. – Despite Attorney Mario Apuzzo’s objection to additional time being granted for defendants to respond to the complaint filed on behalf of Charles F. Kerchner questioning President Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility, U.S. District Magistrate Judge Joel Schneider, for the District of New Jersey, granted an extension until no later than June 29.

read more at: Sonoran News
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Old 06-27-2009, 05:47 AM   #80
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We have a man in the White House who refuses to disclose the very documents that would legitimize his Presidency."

As he awaits the responses to his clients’ complaint, Apuzzo has raised what he calls a “Himalayan Mountain” of contradictory evidence surrounding Obama’s birth and eligibility.
...from: Sonoran News


and a lot of people along the way have been paid off handsomely with taxpayers money to keep the public in the dark..........how can so many Americans still believe in Obama and trust him, when he can't even offer up the truth of who he really is.....boggles the mind
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:17 AM   #81
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wow these guys are real adamant upon this issue! im shocked nobody did the same when bush n co. stole the elections to moneyetc. plus left us a ****ed up economy!!!

well here is an interesting story from "The Voice of the White House" to further bring light to what these guys were up to:
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2954.htm

The Voice of the White House



Washington, D.C., June 23, 2009: “With the appearance, though not the public appearance, of a scorching confidential Russian government report about incredible theft and corruption in Russia, starting with Yeltsin, whom they claim was a paid CIA agent, and running up to the present day, we also learn that the Blessed Bernie Madoff took billions of his looted money and stashed it in Israeli banks and businesses. Many of us knew this but the wonderful media carefully looked the other way. The basis thesis of the long Russian report is that a gang of Russian street thugs, all Jewish, got together with the CIA and the Mossad and looted Russia of hundreds of billions of dollars in gold, precious stones, oil and other worthwhile items. And they gleefully stashed all of this loot in US, European and Israeli banks. Now, Putin wants it back and I suspect he is going to clean house in Russia very soon…before he gets the Ukraine back that is. It is really amazing about the total lack of integrity among our bankers. They took in billions in what were obviously looted Russian assets and they took in, and quickly sold off, billions of dollars worth of what the top bankers knew very well were worthless mortgages. And then, when a subservient Paulson gave them billions, they took it all and stuffed it into their pockets, bought more private jets and had million dollar private bathrooms installed in their executive suites. Iof course the public pays for this. I heard a far-right Republican yesterday say that Obama was a socialist and was grabbing up all kinds of important businesses. He went on about free trade until I pointed out that under the Bush/Cheney reign, business was given a completely free hand and as a result, they looted everything in sight but the Lincoln Memorial and totally ruined out economy. Never mind, all of them took their loot and ran off and hid it in a safe place. For sure not in an American bank, however. They know a fellow crook when they see him.”

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Old 12-27-2009, 05:24 AM   #82
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This thread, is like a walk down memory lane ~

now, did he, or did he NOT

get caught with his pants down

and, a birth certificate that is a lie ???
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:15 PM   #83
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OK, well, here it is!!!

Hey mntruthseeker, have you ever heard about this?



I was looking for a recent Joel Skousen/Rense interview on youtube, and when I could not find it, opted to listen to this Skousen speech given at the 2009 Constitution Party National Committee Meeting.

Posted to Youtube 11/20/2009.

At minute 8:59 of Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzR4Y...eature=channel

Skousen mentions that Alan Keyes said to Obama in a 2004 'Open' Debate: "You know you're not even a natural born citizen." (AP was there recording it)

Obama quickly retorted:

"So what, I'm running for the Illinois Senate not the Presidency."



Skousen (Constitutional Scholar, Political Commentator) states: "It's an admission he knew he was not natural born. He knew that there was a prohibition against his running for President. How in the world would he ever dare to run for President when this was public knowledge, when it was published in the AP. When you google that story you cannot find it!!!"

He continues and expounds upon the statement in the following Part 3 Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqPnX...eature=channel


GREAT INFORMATION REGARDING THE PAST AND SUSPECTED FUTURE OF OUR CONTROLLING GOVERN(to control)MENT(mind) IN THIS SPEECH! 7 PARTS





STILL LISTENING TO SPEECH and he mentions again in this part, about Obama knowing he was an illegal alien and Skousen talks about how easy it is to get a certification of live birth:

Minute 8:59 again (that's interesting)

Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W4IY...eature=channel

In Part 6 he explains that there's not going to be a collapse precipitously of the dollar, it's going to continue to go downhill slowly. What's really in store for you is another world war. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpKgB...eature=channel

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Old 12-28-2009, 01:37 AM   #84
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question is now do they act on this or just ignore it . Once again the lie has gotten too big to deny it will not only bring down Obama but discredit all behind and along side him .
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Old 12-28-2009, 01:44 AM   #85
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OK, well, here it is!!!

Hey mntruthseeker, have you ever heard about this?



I was looking for a recent Joel Skousen/Rense interview on youtube, and when I could not find it, opted to listen to this Skousen speech given at the 2009 Constitution Party National Committee Meeting.

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Posted to Youtube 11/20/2009.

At minute 8:59 of Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzR4Y...eature=channel

Skousen mentions that Alan Keyes said to Obama in a 2004 'Open' Debate: "You know you're not even a natural born citizen." (AP was there recording it)

Obama quickly retorted:

"So what, I'm running for the Illinois Senate not the Presidency."



Skousen (Constitutional Scholar, Political Commentator) states: "It's an admission he knew he was not natural born. He knew that there was a prohibition against his running for President. How in the world would he ever dare to run for President when this was public knowledge, when it was published in the AP. When you google that story you cannot find it!!!"

He continues and expounds upon the statement in the following Part 3 Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqPnX...eature=channel


GREAT INFORMATION REGARDING THE PAST AND SUSPECTED FUTURE OF OUR CONTROLLING GOVERN(to control)MENT(mind) IN THIS SPEECH! 7 PARTS





STILL LISTENING TO SPEECH and he mentions again in this part, about Obama knowing he was an illegal alien and talks about certification of birth:

Minute 8:59 again (that's interesting)

Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W4IY...eature=channel

In Part 6 he explains that there's not going to be a collapse precipitously of the dollar, it's going to continue to go downhill slowly. What's really in store for you is another world war. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpKgB...eature=channel




Yes, I knew that had happened and he cheated so bad to win that election too. If people printed their name versus writing it out, they didnt count the vote. So as far as I am concern he never won the senate seat either.

He truly stinks to the core. The full year he was running I studied so hard into his background that it burned my butt how much of a free ride he got. Well we all know now WHY that happened. Can we spell FACIST

I also know in my heart that to know is power but to handle it correctly is brilliants...............I am smiling as I think of our world coming together right now in Love and blowing their plan right out of the water. Its not at all what they want, is it ? I refuse to be angry over this as I once was



January 26th 2010 is supposely his day in court..............we shall see
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:56 AM   #86
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Some of you are going to be a bit uncomfortable with this posting, but making people feel uncomfortable can be of no concern for now. I've ignored this particular threads long enough.

As some of you know from previous threads, I do not support the Republican or Democratic Hoax. I believe that you can't despise a fraudulent government and countless revealings of political corruption with one cheek, but support your favorite political party/politician that represents it, with the other. Sure you have a few Ron Paul types, but where was Ron's current ferber a decade ago, when the ground work for what's happening today was being laid? How about an even better question, where were you and your voice? Chances are, supporting whatever political affiliation you have or had. Therefore, continuing the cycle...wash, rinse, and wear it again.

There are many of our presidents whom had a poor background in terms of intelligence (critical thinking), education, and writing policy, but yet went into the White House and came out of the White House unabated. Even a couple of good hollywood actors auditioned for the role. That must of been their best performance yet. Hell, George Bush's racquet was exposed significantly in the state of Florida on voter fraud, but where was the national outcry? Well, maybe a whimper from the Democrats whom historically have been viewed as soft. Yet, many of us are clawing at the heels of the current president on the premise of a "birth certificate", when you've seen worse. Now, allow me to be clear, if he is not eligible, then he is not eligible for the position. Period. Boy, I sure hope Obama is not the closet white hat some think he is, otherwise, we sure are getting in our own way...again.

Hmmm...Let's see, do you prefer Biden? Hillary, McCain? The goal is to remove the existence of Washington and the game that is played there, not the players. Always, always, always remember that. Please tell all of the pundits and divisive political spewers to start "that" movement, for that is one I and millions of others will surely join.

Now, let's inject some more of the reality that exist here. We have a country that has never had to vote for and now have, a president who does not look like them, or to be more forthright...same skin tone. This and the Mantra of Palin and McCain's campaign, moved these particular humans in America to become the now "wide awake" and ready to take action. Afraid of socialism, when socialism infiltrated our borders decades ago. It's just trying to get an official seal placed on it now.
No, they're not going to say "it's his skin tone" and in some cases that is the truth, but the bottom line is...The presidents that looked like these Americanse are the one's that took their jobs away, true freedom and civil liberties, allowed drugs and organized crime to prosper in this country (along with them), supported cover ups, lies, and made the rich richer and the middle class and poor poorer. Now, some of them were voted right back into office, so again, where were those voices? Supporting that same ol' political dogma that has handcuffed some of you now.

Hypocrits wearing a cape. Now, that's a super deed, indeed (please forgive my sticks and stones).

The day ALL OF US can tell the Republican and Democratic politicians, radio personalites, and websites to submit their resignations and dismantle their tools of deception, hate, and self promotion, is the day you will know what "change" is all about.
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Old 01-05-2010, 07:11 AM   #87
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I dont agree with all that you just wrote gscraig

I do not believe that we have had a "true elected president" for many many years.

I have gotten kicked out of forums for my true opinion of Bush/Cheney. I was not aware of the true steps to become president in the USA.

When I seen Obama come and say he was running I loved him dearly. He captured my heart and I thought, wow, finally. Then I started researching him. I didnt just go to the Chicago papers / National media or papers.....I went further. I had nothing but time on my hands and I got in way over my head in my researchings.

I knew he was being accused of having gay affairds, I wasnt there so instead I went to the gay chat rooms coming right out of the Chicago Area to get the jist of it. I wanted to know what his connection was of the murder of three gay men that he had affairs with that were also affiliated with the Trinity Church. OH YES, did I get the stories. I also looked up all the information I could involved in other churches in the Chicago area just to see what was mentioned.............PLENTY.

I also checked the trial that was going on in Chicago.......lots of info, then I checked out the hospitals that the Obamas were on the board. Also another company that Mischelle worked with. Amazing stuff.

Oh and BTW, I also researched the Clintons and was dumbfounded at how many murders they were involved with prior to just Bill being "selected". Close to 45.

No, I think to be honest, I do not like the way the world is heading but I dont see just removing Obama from office helping. WE NEED TO FIRE THEM ALL

So please do not mention skin color to me. In my familiy, I have blacks, Koreans, Native American and a bunch of hot tempered Italians.......So unless you actually know that the skin color is a factor, I would not bring it up.

I have come to the point that the only way out of all of this is us coming together.

No, I dont hate you nor do I expect to be hated for my views.

I get very confused on what I want done so I just pray for two things

Peace and Brotherhood
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Old 01-05-2010, 07:29 AM   #88
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Nice to see that hatred towards Obama is alive and well in 2010.

Me? I'd rather forget about Obama and focus on more important matters. He is but one cog in the machine and a cog that isn't worth talking about at this point.

Not to dismiss anything. It's just irrevelant to think to place blame squarely upon ONE person.

I subscribe more to Wilcock's school of thought but regard Obama as generally irrevelant.
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:08 PM   #89
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Agreed, HJ. Though observation mode is best in many situations, sometimes action is required for molding futures.

Hello mntruthseeker,

I appreciate very much your energy, many of your posts and being upfront with expressing yourself. I would like to share some perspectives with you.

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I do not believe that we have had a "true elected president" for many many years.
I agree, it is why I stopped voting 15 yrs ago.

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When I seen Obama come and say he was running I loved him dearly. He captured my heart and I thought, wow, finally.
Yes, but it wasn't just the heart, it was the emerging consciousness of the country. Obama was saying the very things many people was feeling in this stage of our experiences on this planet. The people of all walks were rejuvenated for a better day, and removal of the old dogma. This was the brilliance of his campaign, rather genuine, deception, or both. Many still believe a better day will come from the peoples electing officials (or believing they did), not from them, the people.

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Yes, I was someone intrigued by this during the primaries. However, he would not be the first president in office with bisexual accounts (research it). It's interesting, when you look at all the things that has "leaked" out about Obama, but those before him maintained a bit of a tight lid.

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So please do not mention skin color to me. In my familiy, I have blacks, Koreans, Native American and a bunch of hot tempered Italians.......So unless you actually know that the skin color is a factor, I would not bring it up.
Bring it up, indeed! For decades, we've been feeding the Elephant in our living rooms/country peanuts, instead of removing the Elephant. We are at the stage of our existence where we should and can talk about whatever sits on the heart for clarity. Not just talk about what's safe, or being careful of the Elephants feelings. This is how we remove barriers and falsehoods. I also indicated in my post that skin tone truly is not the motivator for some people.

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Agreed. Once we all come together, we can take back our power, take back our planet. When all of these political tv/radio/web figures realize that they are only a part of the divide and use their platform to help formulate macro solutions, the stranglehold of the hoax will begin to loosen. This is achieved when they and we can begin to move those thinking first about "their" representation/views, instead of thinking first about "our" representation/views all into the one positive direction. This also applies to all of the so called Disclosure movements, including PC. When those that are legitimate (which merging would eventually weed out) unite to form one cohesive mass entity, and not their separate venues for truth...Again, power is gained and real solutions are born.

As Obama cleverly repeated during his campaign; "I'm not going to Washington to play the game, but to remove it". People don't realize, how often he shared the blueprint for what we the people as a collective and individually need for..."Change".
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This thread, is like a walk down memory lane ~

now, did he, or did he NOT

get caught with his pants down

and, a birth certificate that is a lie ???
This is the reason I say Obama is a false flag event. The short certificate released as his BC is also given to citizens not born in HW. The long certificate with detail info...such as mother, father, hospital, doctor...not released as well as a number of other papers normally released...like college thesis.


When you look around Obama and see who is surrounding him you will find a very strong connection to people with dual citizenship or questionable loyalties to another country. Israel has the most powerful lobby in Washington, has their citizens in our government jobs, and for a state the size of NH they have the 3rd most powerful military in the world.

Some people jokingly refer to this foreign fraction as the 51st state. I find any foreign government that can have that much influence in our government disturbing. Especially now that Israel is constantly threatening to destroy nuclear reactors in Iran. Which could lead us into ww3.

Then you look at the opposition to Obama. Dr. Oly Tiaz, who is leading this, is viola...an Israeli citizen. She has dual dual citizenship and goes to the middle east often.

I think something fishy is happening. Obama is probably not qualified to be president and everyone in DC knows this. Spies for Israel helped get him elected and are also using the BC issue to stir up controversy. They are playing 2 sides of the same coin.

Obama is a false flag event. He is there to shock and awe us. The CIA uses many mind control programs to get us to go along with this. IMHO they also use people we like to refer to as "whistle blowers" to further their agenda.

How many "professional" psychics have gone on the record and stated Obama is a godsend? Many have. But none of these "professionals" predicted 9/11.

I also believe some of the whistle blowers are genuine and have some inside knowledge but I've also seen very likable people who believe what they are saying draw up theories of their own in response to questions. And when you propose a theory it's very easy to believe it's fact...for in the proposer's mind it is fact.

So, I do take the whistle blowers testimony with a grain of salt, I also realize this is their livelihood and I see nothing wrong with what they are doing. I find much of it rather entertaining.

And the CIA probably does give false info through contacts to these "whistle blowers" to further distract people from real agendas. Spending a large amount of time researching ET's means the person will spend far less time researching what will actually affect them...like false wars, oil pipelines and ethnic cleansing in Gaza and the West Bank using US tax dollars and weapons.

Anyone noticed the skyrocketing price of olives lately? It's not inflation. As Israel expands in the west bank with their segregation wall, they are ripping out ancient olive trees and destroying farms. I expect olives, and olive products to go even higher. This affects us, we get products from there but no one understands or even seems to care.

Instead our media focuses on junk food news, like how many kids some lady had. What stars are getting divorced or arrested. Non existent terrorist, dead terrorist, sanitized unemployment records, false economic news, who crashed the white house party, and sex scandals.

Obama and his birth certificate will be brought out only when it is needed. And of course, it will be speculation, never actually addressed and brushed under the rug the moment another celebrity gets caught with their pants down.
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Old 01-05-2010, 03:46 PM   #91
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Does anyone know what the latest is on this case? Is there not a hearing, or court date this month, the 26th of Jan. where BO needs to produce his long form BC?
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Alan Keys (just after minute 2)says in this video that Obama will stage terrorist attacks so that martial law can be implimented. This is the first time I've heard anyone in government make this actual statement - but it was in kind of an off the record type setting. He's in fear of our constitution being abolished because we are asleep and the regular guy has got to step up or we're going to lose it.

The problem I see is that many want to do something but don't have a point man or organizaiton to get involved with. Right now it seems to be a lot of different people doing a lot of different things with no one real focal point. Then you've got to weed out all the ones who are just in it for the power it gives having people following. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUE2ApL-Fpo
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:04 PM   #93
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I have to agree with you gscraig.

As far as the elephant in the livingroom...............yes, I imagine it is many livingrooms across the world.

Oh I only brought up the gay part as I wanted to show where most of my information arrived from which forums.

I worked hard all of my life and raised 3 kids. Not looking for a pat on the back, just writing that, gone 10 to 10 1/2 hours a day, cooking meals, cleaning house and washing clothes kept me very busy. I never went past the 8th grade although I had many outside classes to progress with my employment. So I never got into the history/political scene.

It wasnt until I was bedridden that I actually took an interest. But, I have a freeling that I am not alone in my path. Many just didnt care same as I.

Yep Yep Yep...........the world is not what I thought.

So Obama got my full attention and when I would say something about him, others pointed me into other directions on other past presidents..........which I checked into and it was a never ending road. I am disgusted with what I have discovered on all the presidents going back to George Washington.

I appreciate you answering me and I truly believe your words.

I have to agree with HJ that it is time to move on......expecting the outcome of any hearing is not going to be the saving factor in anything.

I will not hold my breath as some may want but instead I will continue to pray for peace.
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