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Old 03-29-2009, 02:05 AM   #26
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This logic doesn't hold for me.

The war on drugs is nonsense and jailing people for use/possession of drugs is stupid, and should just stop, period. We don't need legalization of drugs to accomplish anything that could be accomplished by just knocking off the oppression.

And legalizing drugs so they can be taxed is the same, in my books. Taxes are used mainly to enrich the PTB and deprive the rest of us so we are too busy to notice what the PTB are up to.

The answer is for us to simply "fire" the PTB and then just live naturally, in mutual cooperation and respect.

Then is someone wants to take some drugs, that's there business. No muss...no fuss.
You won't see it while the powers that be are in power
for several reasons.

1. the american drug lords (poppy bush inc) won't tolerate competition.

2. The draconian drug laws have been highly productive
on several fronts.
a. they provided a means to justify the swat team
police state; kicking in doors and shooting
elderly ladies.
b. they desensitized the public to the above police
state tactics
c. they allowed a toe hold for another subset of laws
which have experienced wildfire mission creep into
other areas of law. These are the forfeiture laws
allowing government to seize private property
without recourse.
3. They are now using these laws and the swat model to expand the definition of a drug to commonly
available substances such as stevia, pyridoxine, water, even mothers breast milk are in danger
of being classified as drugs rather than food supplements. Gestapo tactics and stevia are legendary.

4 FDA is radically expanding power and scope intruding into DEA turf in preparation to strike down
the food drug and cosmetic act in favor of codex alimentarius allowing them to rule every aspect
of what you can and cannot put into your bodies. Just imagine a license required for a mother to
breast feed, or forfeiting your home and land for growing a tomato. That is where this is going. All
thanks to the war on drugs.



From a tyrant's perspective, the war on drugs has been
very productive indeed at bringing this society to it's
knees.

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Here is Dr Coleman interviewed about this book, which
was first published (by the way) in 1969.

http://www.archive.org/details/Dr.Jo...RadioInterview

See the library for further information

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Here's a piece I recommend for anyone unsure about the deliberate manipulation of education.

This traces it back almost a century and finds it in "their own words".

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q...q=norman+dodd#

Everyone should watch this interview. It is highly illuminating. I had watched it before...and was trying to find it to post, but couldn't! Thank-you!
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:03 AM   #29
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HAS ANYONE ELSE HERE CHECKED OUT 'THE DAY TAPES' POSTED IN THE AVALON LIBRARY?. ITS ALL THERE AND GIVEN IN A LECTURE BY DR. DAY TO 80 OR SO DOCTORS IN THE 1960's. IF YOUR INTERESTED YOU'LL FIND IT UNDER MISCELLANEOUS (GENERAL). IT MAKES FOR INTERESTING READING FOLKS.

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Does anything in the report ring true? Or is it all wrong because you disagree with some of it?

This is what the exercise of discernment is all about for me. I rarely come across anything that I agree totally with. So I take what I can use, and leave the rest. I found lots of useful info in that report.

For example, I noticed that several of the players mentioned in the 1991 report have now resurfaced in glowing support for Obama. Namely, Kissinger, Bzrezinski, and volker. All 3 act in an advisory capacity for Obama. That interests me intensely.

Especially after watching Alex Jones excellent expose called the Obama Deception, available on Google videos and Youtube.
It may still have truth to it. I'm just saying that I don't buy everything about it.

Though it is true that our society is highly sexualized and I feel that I suffer directly from the effects of TPTB to, as described, destroy the ability of males to develop meaningful relationships and start families. I'm 27 and I've never been in a real relationship. I have a highly flawed view of females that I've struggled to overcome. I don't blame media or anything. But, this part of the report makes me think.

There's definitely an invisible "hurdle" that I need to clear before I can have normal relationships with women (and just about anyone else as well). Or, that could just be my perception and not reality.

So therefore, I do not dismiss it completely.

The rock music and drugs part don't make sense to me. I love rock music. Without The Who or Zeppelin or Black Sabbath, I wouldn't have ANY appreciation for music. I also have an appreciation for the therapeutic effects of smoking marijuana, which actually helps keep my anxiety under control whenever I do experience such feelings.
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It may still have truth to it. I'm just saying that I don't buy everything about it.


The rock music and drugs part don't make sense to me. I love rock music. Without The Who or Zeppelin or Black Sabbath, I wouldn't have ANY appreciation for music. I also have an appreciation for the therapeutic effects of smoking marijuana, which actually helps keep my anxiety under control whenever I do experience such feelings.
Please do take the time to listen to the Coleman interview above. Or look in the library for the material
on Tavistock. Words like teenager and
generation gap started in the sixties with the Beatles.
These were Tavistock constructs to instigate rebellion.
Ed Sullivan was told to find young people to plant in the
audience, especially young girls. They were paid to
be there and bussed in, then told to scream wildly.
They were not fans. The Beatles had never been heard
in the US before that.

The major contribution of R&R was the encouragement
of the drug culture. This came later in Beatles music.
Songs like Lucy in the sky with diamonds and yellow
submarine were coded for "insiders" on the young side
of the generation gap. (LSD). Dr Coleman states that
John Lennon was about to let the cat out of the bag and
that was why he was murdered by a manchurian candidate. His handler, Yoko Ono, was with him when he
died.

I like black sabbeth and pink floyd as much as anyone. But realize the manipulation behind it.

There is more, much more. I shall leave it for you to dig
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The major contribution of R&R was the encouragement
of the drug culture. This came later in Beatles music.
Songs like Lucy in the sky with diamonds and yellow
submarine were coded for "insiders" on the young side
of the generation gap. (LSD). Dr Coleman states that
John Lennon was about to let the cat out of the bag and
that was why he was murdered by a manchurian candidate. His handler, Yoko Ono, was with him when he
died.
What was he going to say? About what?
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What was he going to say? About what?
Guess you will have to read the book..

But following is an essay from Wes Penre's site. There are also several
worthy essays that I will not publish here.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/rock_and_mc.htm

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I am one of those who grew up with The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, Led Zeppelin etc. I thought it was GREAT music and I was totally into it.

I am a musician and a composer myself, influenced from the artists and groups above. At that time, in my teens and twenties, I was not very well educated on the situation on this planet, even though I thought something must be very wrong. Often I thought the rock musicians had the answers...

I know many of you might feel the same and therefore you may get upset about what I'm now going to tell you. But believe me, I've gone through all that myself, and after all - I was a rock musician too. The story, though, that I will tell you makes a whole lot of sense (unfortunately) and the glamour of rock music fades quite a bit.

The following is an excerpt from Dr. John Coleman's excellent book "The Committee of 300", which is very informative on the subject of the Illuminati and is highly recommended. Very much of what he "predicted" in the early 80's happened exactly the way he said it would. The book in itself is from the early 90's.





The Beatles and the Aquarian Conspiracy



An outstanding example of social conditioning to accept change, even when it is recognized as unwelcome change by the large population group in the sights of Stanford Research Institute, was the "advent" of the BEATLES. The Beatles were brought to the United States as part of a social experiment which would subject large population groups to brainwashing of which they were not even aware.

When Tavistock brought the Beatles to the United States nobody could have imagined the cultural disaster that was to follow in their wake. The Beatles were an integral part of "THE AQUARIAN CONSPIRACY," a living organism which sprang From "THE CHANGING IMAGES OF MAN," URH (489)-2150-Policy Research Report No. 4/4/74. Policy Report pre-pared by SRI Center for the study of Social Policy, Director, Professor Willis Harmon.

The phenomenon of the Beatles was not a spontaneous rebellion by youth against the old social system. Instead it was a carefully crafted plot to introduce by a conspiratorial body which could not be identified, a highly destructive and divisive element into a large population group targeted for change against its will. New words and new phrases--prepared by Tavistock(1)-- were introduced to America along with the Beatles. Words such as "rock" in relation to music sounds, "teenager," "cool," "discovered" and "pop music" were a lexicon of disguised code words signifying the acceptance of drugs and arrived with and accompanied the Beatles wherever they went, to be "discovered" by "teenagers." Incidentally, the word "teenagers" was never used until just before the Beatles arrived on the scene, courtesy of the Tavistock Institute for Human Relations.

As in the case of gang wars, nothing could or would have been accomplished without the cooperation of the media, especially the electronic media and, in particular, the scurrilous Ed Sullivan who had been coached by the conspirators as to the role he was to play. Nobody would have paid much attention to the motley crew from Liverpool and the 12-atonal system of "music" that was to follow had it not been for an overabundance of press exposure. The 12-atonal system consisted of heavy, repetitive sounds, taken from the music of the cult of Dionysus and the Baal priesthood by Adorno and given a "modern" flavor by this special friend of the Queen of England and hence the Committee of 300.

Tavistock and its Stanford Research Center created trigger words which then came into general usage around "rock music" and its fans. Trigger words created a distinct new break-away largely young population group which was persuaded by social engineering and conditioning to believe that the Beatles really were their favorite group. All trigger words devised in the context of "rock music" were designed for mass control of the new targeted group, the youth of America.

The Beatles did a perfect job, or perhaps it would be more correct to say that Tavistock and Stanford did a perfect job, the Beatles merely reacting like trained robots "with a little help from their friends"--code words for using drugs and making it "cool." The Beatles became a highly visible "new type"-- more Tavistock jargon--and as such it was not long before the group made new styles (fads in clothing, hairstyles and language usage) which upset the older generation, as was intended. This was part of the "fragmentation-maladaptation" process worked out by Willis Harmon and his team of social scientists and genetic engineering tinkerers and put into action.

The role of the print and electronic media in our society is crucial to the success of brainwashing large population groups. Gang wars ended in Los Angeles in 1966 as the media withdrew its coverage. The same thing will happen with the current wave of gang wars in Los Angeles. Street gangs will wither on the vine once media saturation coverage is toned down and then completely withdrawn. As in 1966, the issue would become "burned out." Street gangs will have served their purpose of creating turbulence and insecurity. Exactly the same pattern will be followed in the case of "rock" music. Deprived of media attention, it will eventually take its place in history.

Following the Beatles, who incidentally were put together by the Tavistock Institute, came other "Made in England" rock groups, who, like the Beatles, had Theo Adorno write their cult lyrics and compose all the music. {...}


Tavistock and Stanford Research then embarked on the second phase of the work commissioned by the Committee of 300. This new phase turned up the heat for social change in America. As quickly as the Beatles had appeared on the American scene, so too did the "beat generation," trigger words designed to separate and fragment society. The media now focused its attention on the "beat generation." Other Tavistock-coined words came seemingly out of nowhere: "beatniks," "hippies," "flower children" became part of the vocabulary of America. It became popular to "drop out" and wear dirty jeans, go about with long unwashed hair. The "beat generation" cut itself off from main-stream America. They became just as infamous as the cleaner Beatles before them.

The newly-created group and its "lifestyle" swept millions of young Americans into the cult. American youth underwent a radical revolution without ever being aware of it, while the older generation stood by helplessly, unable to identify the source of the crisis, and thus reacting in a maladaptive manner against its manifestation, which were drugs of all types, marijuana, and later Lysergic acid, "LSD," so conveniently provided for them by the Swiss pharmaceutical company, SANDOZ, following the discovery by one of its chemists, Albert Hoffman, how to make synthetic ergotamine, a powerful mind-altering drug. The Committee of 300 financed the project through one of their banks, S. C. Warburg, and the drug was carried to America by the philosopher, Aldous Huxley.

The new "wonder drug" was promptly distributed in "sample" size packages, handed out free of charge on college campuses across the United States and at "rock" concerts, which became the leading vehicle for proliferating the use of drugs. The question that cries out for an answer is, what was the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) doing at the time? There is compelling circumstantial evidence that would appear to indicate that the DEA knew what was going on but was ordered not to take any action.

With very substantial numbers of new British "rock" bands arriving in the U.S., rock concerts began to become a fixture on the social calendar of American youth. In tandem with these "concerts," the use of drugs among the youth rose in proportion. The devilish bedlam of discordant heavy beat sounds numbed the minds of listeners so that they were easily persuaded to try the new drug on the basis that "everybody is doing it." Peer pressure is a very strong weapon. The "new culture" received maximum coverage from the jackal media, which cost the conspirators not one single thin dime.

Great anger was felt by a number of civic leaders and churchmen over the new cult but their energies were misdirected against the RESULT of what was going on and not against the CAUSE. Critics of the rock cult made the same mistakes that had been made in the prohibition era, they criticized law enforcement agencies, teachers, parents anybody but the conspirators.





Alan Ginsberg



Because of the anger and resentment I feel toward the great drug plague, I make no apology for using language which is not customary for me to use. One of the worst drug slobs ever to walk the streets of America was Alan Ginsberg. This Ginsberg pushed the use of LSD through advertising which cost him nothing, although under normal circumstances it would have cost millions of dollars in TV advertising revenues. This free advertising for drugs, and LSD in particular, reached a new high in the late 1960's, thanks to the ever-willing cooperation of the media. The effect of Ginsberg's mass advertising campaign was devastating; the American public was subjected to one cultural future shock after another in rapid succession.

We became over-exposed and over stimulated and, again, may I remind you that this is Tavistock jargon, lifted from the Tavistock training manual, overwhelmed by its new development and, when we reached that point, our minds began to lapse into apathy; it was just too much to cope with, that is to say, "long range penetration had taken hold of us." Ginsberg claimed to be a poet but no greater rubbish was ever written by anyone who ever aspired to becoming a poet. Ginsberg's designated task had little to do with poetry; his main function was to push the new subculture and force acceptance of it upon the large targeted population group.

To assist him in his task, Ginsberg cooped the services of Norman Mailer, a writer of sorts who had spent some time in a mental institution. Mailer was a favorite of the leftwing Hollywood crowd and so had no problem with getting maximum television time for Ginsberg. Naturally Mailer had to have a pretext-- not even he could blatantly come out with the true nature of Ginsberg's television appearances. So a charade was adopted: Mailer would talk "seriously" on camera with Ginsberg about poetry and literature.

This method of getting wide television coverage at no cost to themselves was followed by every rock group and concert promoter who followed the example set by Ginsberg. The electronic media moguls had big hearts when it came to giving free time to these dirty verminous creatures and their even dirtier products and filthy ideas. Their promotion of horrible garbage spoke volumes and, without abundant help from the print and electronic media, the drug trade could not have spread as rapidly as it did in the late 1960's-early 197O's, and probably would have been confined to a few small local areas.

Ginsberg was able to give several nationally televised performances extolling the virtues of LSD and marijuana, under the guise of "new ideas" and "new cultures" developing in the art and music world. Not to be outdone by the electronic media, Ginsberg's admirers wrote glowing articles about "this colorful man" in the art and social columns of all of America's largest newspapers and magazines. There had never been such an across-the-media-board free advertising campaign in the history of newspaper, radio and television and it cost the promoters of the Aquarian conspiracy, NATO and the Club of Rome not one red cent. It was all absolutely free advertising for LSD, only thinly disguised as "art" and "culture."

One of Ginsberg's closest friends, Kenny Love, published a Five-page report in the New York Times. This is in accordance with the methodology used by Tavistock and Stanford Research: If something is to be promoted which the public has not yet been fully brainwashed to accept, then have someone write an article, covering all sides of the subject matter. The other method is to have live television talk shows in which a panel of experts promotes the product and or idea under the pretext of "discussing", it. There are point and counter-point, both pro and con participants airing their support or opposition. When it is all over, the subject to be promoted has been dinned into the public mind. While this was new in the early 1970's, today it is standard practice on which talk shows thrive.

Love's Five-page pro LSD pro Ginsberg article was duly printed by the New York Times. Had Ginsberg tried to buy the same amount of space in an advertisement, it would have cost him at least $50,000. But Ginsberg didn't have to worry; thanks to his Friend Kenny Love, Ginsberg got the massive advertising all for free. With newspapers like the New York Times and the Washington Post under the control of the Committee of 300, this kind of free advertising is given to any subject matter, and more especially to those promoting decadent life styles--drugs-hedonism-- anything that will confuse the American people. After the trial run with Ginsberg and LSD, it became standard Club of Rome practice to call upon major newspapers in America to give free advertising on demand to people and ideas they were promoting.

Worse yet--or better yet, depending upon the viewpoint-- United Press (UP) picked up Kenny Love's free advertising for Ginsberg and LSD and telexed it to HUNDREDS of newspapers- and magazines around the country under the guise of a "news" story. Even such highly respectable establishment magazines as "Harpers Bazaar" and "TIME" made Mr. Ginsberg respectable. If a nation-wide campaign of this magnitude were presented to Ginsberg and the promoters of LSD by an advertising agency, the price tag would have run into at least $1 million in terms of 1970 dollars. Today the price tag would be nothing less than $15-$16 million dollars. It is no wonder that I refer to the news media as "jackals."

I suggest that we try to find any media outlet to do an expose on the Federal Reserve Board, which is what I did. I took my article, which was a good expose of the greatest swindle on earth, to every major newspaper, radio and television station, magazine house and several talk-show hosts. A few made promises that sounded good--they would definitely air the article and have me discuss it--give them about a week and they would get back to me. Not one of them ever did, nor did my article ever appear in the pages of their newspapers and journals. It was as if a blanket of silence had been thrown over me and the subject I was endeavoring to promote, and indeed that was precisely what had happened.

Without massive media hype, and without almost around the clock coverage, the hippie-beatnik rock, drug cult would never have gotten off the ground; it would have remained a localized oddity. The Beatles, with their twanging guitars, silly expressions, drug language and weird clothes, would not have amounted to a hill of beans. Instead, because the Beatles were given saturation coverage by the media, the United States has suffered one cultural shock after another.

The men buried in the think tanks and research institutions, whose names and faces are still not known to but a few people, made sure that the press played its part. Conversely, the media's important role in not exposing the power behind the future cultural shocks made certain that the source of the crisis was never identified. Thus was our society driven mad through psychological shocks and stress. "Driven mad" is taken from Tavistock's training manual. From its modest beginnings in 1921, Tavistock was ready in 1966 to launch a major irreversible cultural revolution in America, which has not yet ended. The Aquarian Conspiracy is part of it.

Thus softened up, our nation was now deemed ripe for the introduction of drugs which was to rival the prohibition era in scope and the huge amounts of money to be made. This too was an integral part of the Aquarian Conspiracy. The proliferation of drug usage was one of the subjects under study at the Science Policy Research Unit (SPRU) at Tavistock's Sussex University facility. It was known as the "future shocks" center, a title given to so-called future oriented psychology designed to manipulate whole population groups to induce "future shocks." It was the first of several such institutions set up by Tavistock.

"Future shocks" is described as a series of events which come so fast that the human brain cannot absorb the information. As I said earlier, science has shown that there are clearly marked limits to the amount of changes and the nature of them that the mind can deal with. After continuous shocks, the large targeted population group discovers that it does not want to make choices any more. Apathy takes over, often preceded by mindless violence such as is characteristic of the Los Angeles street gangs, serial killers, rapists and child kidnapers.

Such a group becomes easy to control and will docilely follow orders without rebelling, which is the object of the exercise. "Future shocks," says SPRU, "is defined as physical and psychological distress arising from the excess load on the decision-making mechanism of the human mind." That is Tavistock jargon lifted straight from Tavistock manuals--which they don't know I have.

Just as an overloaded electrical circuit will activate a trip switch, so do humans "trip out," which is a syndrome that medical science is only now beginning to understand, although John Rawlings Reese conducted experiments in this field as far back as the 1920's. As can be appreciated, such a targeted group is ready to "trip out" and take to drugs as a means of escape from the pressures of so many choices having to be made. This is how Drug usage was spread so rapidly through America's "beat generation." What started with the Beatles and sample packages of LSD has grown into a flood-tide of drug usage which is swamping America.

The drug trade is controlled by the Committee of 300 from the Top down. The drug trade started with the British East India Company and was closely followed by the Dutch East India Company. Both were controlled by a "Council of 300." The list of names of members and stockholders of the BEIC read like something out of Debretts Peerage. BEIC established the "China Inland Mission," whose job it was to get The Chinese peasants, or coolies, as they were called, addicted to opium. This created the market for opium which the BEIC then filled.

In much the same way the Committee of 300 used "The "Beatles" to popularize "social drugs" with the youth of America and The Hollywood "in-crowd." Ed Sullivan was sent to England To become acquainted with The first Tavistock Institute "rock group" to hit the shores of the United States. Sullivan then returned to the United States to draft the strategy for the electronic media on how to package and sell the group. Without the full cooperation of the electronic media and Ed Sullivan, in particular, "The Beatles" and their "music" would have died on the vine. Instead, our national life and the character of the United States was forever changed.

Now that we know, it is all too clear how successful the "Beatles" campaign to proliferate the use of drugs became. The fact that "The Beatles" had their music and lyrics written for them by Theo Adorno was concealed from public view. The prime function to "The Beatles" was to be discovered by teenagers, who where then subjected to a non-stop barrage of "Beatle music," until they became convinced that they liked the sound and adopted it, along with all that accompanied it. The Liverpool group performed up to expectations, and with "a little help from their friends," i.e., illegal substances we call drugs created a whole new class to young Americans in the precise mold ordained by the Tavistock Institute.

(1) An Institute in UK where they research in mind control, run by highly trained psychiatrists who answer to the Illuminati. From here Ayatollah Khomeini, Radovan Karadzic and Milosevic among others were all trained for their mission.



So far Dr. John Coleman.

It's not mentioned here, but the Rolling Stones were created from the same source and with the same purpose. Beatles were supposed to be the "good guys" while the Rolling Stones were the "bad guys". Also, Rolling Stones were experts in creating repeating "riffs", meaning a musical phrase that's looping over and over again (like in "Satisfaction", "Jumping Jack Flash" etc.). These repeating riffs trigger the mind and make one receptive to whatever sub-message you want to transfer into the minds of the listener. In the case of the Rolling Stones we have satanic messages in their lyrics, and they have repeated that over and over through the years (a more recent example is the"Bridge To Babylon" album).

Another interesting thing is that The Beatles were knighted by Queen Elisabeth in the 60's for their "good work". Ringo told the press he'd been so nervous he had to smoke pot in the bathroom before he met the Queen. Recently Paul McCartney was knighted again. The question is: is it the same Paul McCartney?
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Please do take the time to listen to the Coleman interview above. Or look in the library for the material
on Tavistock. Words like teenager and
generation gap started in the sixties with the Beatles.
These were Tavistock constructs to instigate rebellion.
Ed Sullivan was told to find young people to plant in the
audience, especially young girls. They were paid to
be there and bussed in, then told to scream wildly.
They were not fans. The Beatles had never been heard
in the US before that.

The major contribution of R&R was the encouragement
of the drug culture. This came later in Beatles music.
Songs like Lucy in the sky with diamonds and yellow
submarine were coded for "insiders" on the young side
of the generation gap. (LSD). Dr Coleman states that
John Lennon was about to let the cat out of the bag and
that was why he was murdered by a manchurian candidate. His handler, Yoko Ono, was with him when he
died.

I like black sabbeth and pink floyd as much as anyone. But realize the manipulation behind it.

There is more, much more. I shall leave it for you to dig
out.
I'm afraid that otver the years, I've never really read much into the meaning of music. I can't hear lyrics and the only way I'd know of them is to look them up, which I have.

I didn't realize that Pink Floyd wrote mainly about drugs and nothing more.

This is all still new to me but again, I like music solely for what it is and don't tend to read too much into it.

By killing off Lennon, TPTB made him a martyr and they still tried to destroy him long after his death by attacking his fathering skills and his wealth. His death hasn't been forgotten and never will be.
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I didn't realize that Pink Floyd wrote mainly about drugs and nothing more.
Actually I think I heard somewhere that nothing has
been discovered in the music of Pink Floyd as it has in
the stones or the beatles.


I mentioned them because I liked them once upon a
time. Dark side of the moon was new when I was
in high school.
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I always thought a lot of their songs were about struggling with depression and I identified with them.
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