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Old 11-18-2008, 07:47 AM   #1
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I will give to all who want proof of God the creator or to any that want proof of Lucifer a challenge. If you truly seek Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding then I encourage you to get on your face to the Great Creator with true earnestness and ask him to give it to you. But first you must be honest with Him and yourself. You must ask forgiveness for Sin(literally sin means falling short of his purpose for you) and iniquities that exist in all of us mankind.
If you seek him with and open, honest heart I guarantee you you will not be let down. It may not be an earth shattering experience but if you give Him and yourself time and seek him day and evening with your face to the ground in true reverence I can assure you he will lead you to truth and true inner love. Just ask him to show you truth and start searching. look to Enoch, Torah, ancient writings of all kinds and ask Him to guide you and give you revelation if you are steadfast it will come. Ask him to give you discernment of what is truth and what is BS. If you are just a lazy ass smart alec you wont find squat but, if like I said, you are truly honest about your your flesh and realize theres nothing about you he doesn't see or know and confess it then the transformation will begin and it will be more powerful than any black majik or so called enlightenment you can get from the Great lier. I know I did a couple years ago and my journey has been the most exciting and truly remarkable one I have ever had.
The thing is you have to really be ready and Honest. My Spirit has been awakened to truth and love as never before. I am now an Immortal spirit being and creation of the most high in a container not a container that thinks she is God. It took me 48 years to get to the place where I quit playing games and thinking I was OK because I believe but never really sought with a contrite and open heart as a child that knows nothing before the Great PAPA before I really found Him. I was religious and looked to leader figures in religion and was just lukewarm as is the whole Idea of religion. It keeps you lukewarm and unpalatable to the Heavenly PAPA. OK so there go, you can go on thinking you know it all and have all the truth you need and can get what you need on your own but I guarantee you that until you start to believe you are just a child compared to the Creator and know nothing you can't gain any real wisdom. Be reverent, be real, be open and humble and see what happens. His love is for everyone. Even the most decrepit evil persons in the world. God's richest Blessings ~~
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:47 AM   #2
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Yes take 1 step towards God and He will take 10 steps towards you...

There is a path from each heart to God...Everyone dabbles along this path in his own manner and in his own good time he will reach there...

God doesnt burst into ones life and demands surrender and worship...He comes gently as a breeze gently tapping at the door waiting for the invitation...and often find His loved ones preoccupied with His Creation...they say we dont have time for You now besides Your Light is to Strong...and God says OK Ill wait...

God has the Heart of a Thousand Mothers...

God is Everything Everywhere Ever!


A man died and came to Heaven and met God...
"Aha so you do exist...?!"
"Yes and I always been with you!"
God showed him a vision of a beach with 2 pairs of footsteps...and the man followed the steps with his eyes til he came to a desperate point in his life and there at that point were only 1 pair of steps...
"But why did you leave me there where i thought i just couldnt go on...?"
"There I carried you on My back!"


In this day and age of rampant materialism and moral decline...Remembrance of the Name of God is the lantern that will guide you through the wordly wilderness...

Choose any Name of God you want you feel most comfortable with you cherish the most...They All are Ablaze with Divinity and will Take you All The Way!

Dedicate each Act to God and act as best you can and let God worry about the process and the result...throw the burden of Karma on God...Surly He can carry it!

God wil conform to the image you have of Him and Act accordingly!

Prayer is Communion with God and He responds in accordance to the depth and intensity of the Prayer!

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Old 11-18-2008, 10:27 AM   #3
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Sorry, BUT is this the same as posting Porn on the forum?

What is the difference?
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Old 11-18-2008, 10:34 AM   #4
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What is the difference?
Porn is harder to ignore.

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Old 11-18-2008, 10:38 AM   #5
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:15 AM   #6
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Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you.

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hehehehehehe................
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:15 AM   #7
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[QUOTE=TranceAm;82225]Sorry, BUT is this the same as posting Porn on the forum?

What is the difference?[/QUOTE
Vague and ambiguos at least. Sorry but I don't get your statement. Perhaps you could elaborate. If you don't agree or believe in a God than why try and ***** in the thread with dribble? Does the concept threaten you? If you don't believe than why are even in the spirituality Forum? If you don't have any self respect than possibly you could at least try to pretend to have some for others.
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:16 AM   #8
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Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you.

George Carlin

hehehehehehe................
Again nothing of value. Just dribble.
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:44 AM   #9
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I think there is value there.

God appears to hold grudges and punish people.
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:49 AM   #10
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I will give to all who want proof of God the creator or to any that want proof of Lucifer a challenge. If you truly seek Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding then I encourage you to get on your face to the Great Creator with true earnestness and ask him to give it to you. But first you must be honest with Him and yourself. You must ask forgiveness for Sin(literally sin means falling short of his purpose for you) and iniquities that exist in all of us mankind.
If you seek him with and open, honest heart I guarantee you you will not be let down. It may not be an earth shattering experience but if you give Him and yourself time and seek him day and evening with your face to the ground in true reverence I can assure you he will lead you to truth and true inner love. Just ask him to show you truth and start searching. look to Enoch, Torah, ancient writings of all kinds and ask Him to guide you and give you revelation if you are steadfast it will come. Ask him to give you discernment of what is truth and what is BS. If you are just a lazy ass smart alec you wont find squat but, if like I said, you are truly honest about your your flesh and realize theres nothing about you he doesn't see or know and confess it then the transformation will begin and it will be more powerful than any black majik or so called enlightenment you can get from the Great lier. I know I did a couple years ago and my journey has been the most exciting and truly remarkable one I have ever had.
The thing is you have to really be ready and Honest. My Spirit has been awakened to truth and love as never before. I am now an Immortal spirit being and creation of the most high in a container not a container that thinks she is God. It took me 48 years to get to the place where I quit playing games and thinking I was OK because I believe but never really sought with a contrite and open heart as a child that knows nothing before the Great PAPA before I really found Him. I was religious and looked to leader figures in religion and was just lukewarm as is the whole Idea of religion. It keeps you lukewarm and unpalatable to the Heavenly PAPA. OK so there go, you can go on thinking you know it all and have all the truth you need and can get what you need on your own but I guarantee you that until you start to believe you are just a child compared to the Creator and know nothing you can't gain any real wisdom. Be reverent, be real, be open and humble and see what happens. His love is for everyone. Even the most decrepit evil persons in the world. God's richest Blessings ~~
Who are you to tell people to "get on your face"?
This is religous BS.

I'll pass. Thanks anyway.

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Old 11-18-2008, 01:41 PM   #11
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Monsieur or Madame Scooby,

The thread is called spirituality not religion to answer a previous question. Its a place where people come to, among other things, investigate the myths and lies propagated by a religion gone awry. Its a place where people like to openly discuss the totally unethical history of religion(s) and where to go from here. There are certainly people on this site who believe in god and good luck to them, everyone is on their own path. However if you begin a new thread to tell people to effectively prostrate themselves in the name of your God then there is a small chance you may have been misled about what we are all at here.

In general we are trying to get people UP, take them out of their fear, get up and wake up. Gods not driving our cars around here.

To put the spirituality back into our lives that has been so robbed from us by religions that spread hell and damnation and the governments who use religion to spread fear for their grand plan of permanent war.

AND as a general note you are on an open forum which is being accessed by people from all over the world at different times of their or our day or night, in other words some of em could be drunk :-) joke joke just a little humour to keep the boat afloat. Cheer up and expect to be taken to task when you post anything here, its a place where people can question mock or even be mean, its kinda like the real world.

No offense to you at all, I hope you have a great time doing what you are doing but you will find that others don't agree and if you post you have to be able to give as good as you get.
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:15 PM   #12
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Religion and spirituality are close terms, like egg and chicken haha.

The religion is the logic first step to a "personal religion" and that's what YOU understand for spirituality.

I suport you totally Scooby. You are really ahead of many, many men in therms of spiritual realization, keep searching what you think is the best.

Let's see this.

Zeitgeist par 1 DEBUNKED!

All the sources in this part of zeitgeist are theosophical ones, and that's satanism (really, I don't making it up! see what Elena Blavasky, the founder of theosophy say in his book "The secret doctrine"!).

Other thing to look at is the Alberto Rivera history. It's a disclosure!

Of course in the topic of spiritual knowledge you must believe before see so it's only life timing.

The skeptics are good people who thinks by Themselves so I don't have nothing against them either.


Really I think if we ask G O D a little proof he will answerd the challenge. Do it, it's nice hehehe

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Old 11-18-2008, 04:04 PM   #13
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GOD????

what GOD, biblical? allah? thor...RA......

we cant embrace god when god is not GOD, the GOD of creation is not the god in the scripture....

even god pounders if there is a ultimate creator....

and plz differ between GOD and god....

but freely praise god in the bible but your not getting what you think...

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Old 11-18-2008, 05:28 PM   #14
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Who are you to tell people to "get on your face"?
This is religous BS.

I'll pass. Thanks anyway.
Again, someone that doesnt understand the difference between religion and spirituality. What I am advocating is a relationship with the greatest spirit of all. Of course you don't get it. The Bible says that the Wisdom of God is foolishness to man. Thats because man is full of ego and thinks himself a god or godlike. No One told you to do anything bud it was a challenge. Learn to read than you might start to discover what you think you already grasp. You might want to check yourself and why you feel or are projecting offense over the suggestion. btw like others you may want to learn respect of others views whether you believe them or not its how you will get along when the times really do get tuff here in Amerika.
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:33 PM   #15
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:36 PM   #16
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I think there is value there.

God appears to hold grudges and punish people.
So many read the bible and think that God is punishing people in general but if in fact it is the Fallen Sons of God that are the ones he is punishing. In the times of the OT there were these fallen ones that came and took physical form and taught mankind the ways of war, money, etc. They enter bred and created a giant race of man called the nephilim and ther rephaim that were bastards and a desoloation of his purpose for you his greatest creation. His rath was and is still burning against those ones and those that follow them. It's a simple choice really, chose to be a part of the creator and his purpose or the creation that has fallen, been judged and hates you with every fiber of thier being and will do everything in thier power to mislead you and destroy you and the immortal soul that dwells within you. God does love you but you must first show him that you want his love.
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:42 PM   #17
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_Immanetises Eschaton by mistake_

damn.

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Old 11-18-2008, 05:46 PM   #18
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Many post about religion. You should take time to really look up the word and what it means. I don't propose religion here. I propose a relationship with your creator if you do not wish to do that I respect that and no one says you have to. If you are offended by that then you should probably check yourself as to why you can live in a so called free country and allow others the right to believe as they may and express their beliefs without attacking in such limited and narrow terms. When you do it truly shows your ignorance. What I have proposed sets aside any religious practice accept to approach the great Spirit Creator or God if you will and see if you don't have an awakening. Of course there is going to be those that are so full of themselves and their self worth and ideas, and , ideas of the ages that have been planted by the masters of religion. The Fallen sons of God. Trust me, how you treat others will carry on when times are tuff and if, and how you fair in a community should you survive the troubling times to come will depend on how you treat others with different views. You can be offended and show offense or say simply, this is not for me. But to try and be offensive shows your maturity and spiritual maturity.
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:00 PM   #19
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I will give to all who want proof of God the creator or to any that want proof of Lucifer a challenge. If you truly seek Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding then I encourage you to get on your face to the Great Creator with true earnestness and ask him to give it to you. But first you must be honest with Him and yourself. You must ask forgiveness for Sin(literally sin means falling short of his purpose for you) and iniquities that exist in all of us mankind.
I think that your challenge here is misplaced. The very fact that we are all here in the this part of the forum is proof that we are seeking. People worship God in many ways, so I personally don't believe you have to get on your face to communicate a desire or request wisdom from God. You can ask for this standing on your feet with your hands raised to the sky, or sit in a meditative position. As long as your heart is sincere and pure in what you ask for from the Creator. I believe He sees your heart and your desire for a closer walk, and will draw you near. Sin is a whole other subject I believe. The very fact that we grow old and die is proof of the sin nature in mankind. Not to mention the desires of the flesh are always working against us to do what we would not, is continually working in us and separating us from God. Asking for forgiveness, well now... That is really an issue that an individual and the Creator should work out between each other.
Blessings to all.
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:02 PM   #20
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Don't encourage him!
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Old 11-18-2008, 08:59 PM   #21
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Don't encourage him!
DayZero

You're killing me with laughter

Religions exclude people. I have friends who cry for me with worry. Stating that I will be going to hell if I don't come to Jesus. Finally to get them to shut up, I told them as I take my last breath I will take Jesus into my heart as my savior, but in the meantime, I want to know all I can about this ever expanding universe, including Jesus. Love to all.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:39 PM   #22
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I hear ya Scooby.

Your challenge will be brought to them one way or another.
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Old 11-18-2008, 10:16 PM   #23
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mmm i love nag champa!!

you ppls like nag champa?
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Old 11-18-2008, 10:17 PM   #24
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hmmmm, I'll stick with Ampgod!

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Old 11-18-2008, 10:24 PM   #25
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lol, yeah..

ampgod is solid on this one boiii. lol
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