Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for fraud - Page 2

Ashatav · 12-13-2008, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by munkey

If you can make something seem logical, you can get people to do what you want.
Surely you have heard of witch burning! there was no correct science behind it, but it sounded logical to burn them.
Those who don't believe in the Co2 scam are the new witch's.

just out of curiosity, what do the 30.000 Scientists have to gain by debunking Global warming?

Amen to that!

Please.

Search in THIS PAGE, the GREEN AGENDA

It have a TON of Very, Very good information to look the big picture about the subjet.

Cheers!

Lotus · 12-13-2008, 05:56 PM

Al Gore is NOT being sued by 30,000 scientists!!!!!

This post is complete B.S.

It's the claim of a wacky, right wing TV weatherman, who ran the Weather Channel for one year. Even in the video he claims they've SIGNED a petition - NOT SUING. And that number is not even true.

In 1998, the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine began circulating a deceptive "scientists" petition" on global warming.

Their website enables people to add their names to the petition over the Internet, and by June 2000 it claimed to have recruited more than 19,000 scientists. The institute is so lax about screening names, however, that virtually anyone can sign, including for example Al Caruba, a pesticide-industry PR man and conservative ideologue who runs his own website called the "National Anxiety Center."

When questioned in 1998, the OISM's founder Arthur Robinson admitted that only 2,100 signers of the Oregon Petition had identified themselves as physicists, geophysicists, climatologists, or meteorologists, "and of those the greatest number are physicists." This grouping of fields concealed the fact that only a few dozen, at most, of the signatories were drawn from the core disciplines of climate science - such as meteorology, oceanography, and glaciology - and almost none were climate specialists.

Even in 2003, the list was loaded with misspellings, duplications, name and title fragments, and names of non-persons, such as company names.

The NAS issued a blunt formal response to the the petition drive. "The NAS Council would like to make it clear that this petition has nothing to do with the National Academy of Sciences and that the manuscript was not published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences or in any other peer-reviewed journal," it stated in a news release. "The petition does not reflect the conclusions of expert reports of the Academy."

In fact, it pointed out, its own prior published study had shown that, "even given the considerable uncertainties in our knowledge of the relevant phenomena, greenhouse warming poses a potential threat sufficient to merit prompt responses. Investment in mitigation measures acts as insurance protection against the great uncertainties and the possibility of dramatic surprises."

AND - The OISM markets a home-schooling kit for "parents concerned about socialism in the public schools" and publishes books on how to survive nuclear war, including Nuclear War Survival Skills (foreword by H-bomb inventor Edward Teller), which argues that "the dangers from nuclear weapons have been distorted and exaggerated" into "demoralizing myths." Arthur Robinson also co-authored Fighting Chance: Ten Feet to Survival, in collaboration with Gary North, who like Robinson is a conservative Christian. North is also a prolific author of doomsday books with titles such as None Dare Call It Witchcraft, Conspiracy: A Biblical View, and Rapture Fever.

alyscat · 12-13-2008, 09:58 PM

Once again we find "conservative Christians" a little lax with the truth when trying to push their political agenda, while at the same time accusing others of doing the exact same thing they're doing.

tsk, tsk

Hard to build credibility that way, y'know. At some point thinking people will start to discount everything that is said in the old "cry wolf" syndrome.

alys

Ashatav · 12-14-2008, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

This post is complete B.S.

Amen to that.

I think your post is totally B.S. to. Enjoy, we are agree in something!

See the link to the green-agenda.

See this cientific Documentary and then make your informed oppinion:

The Global Warming Swindle

Other great documentary about the POLITICAL AGENDA behind the scam of man made global warming.

In the middle age, when the temperature of earth was higher than now... The horses should has been very busy making all that CO2 emitions!

Global Warming or Global Gobernance?

Cheers!

Carmen · 12-14-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashatav

Yeah...

Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for fraud

It's time to expose the Club of Rome liar

see this GREAT web page about the Green Agenda

Is a political agenda.

Beacuse that agenda the people will satarve to death! waaaaahhh

The rise of temperature comes 700 years BEFORE the rise in CO2.

Here the link about the the sue: LINK!

Cheers... ?

I consider Al Gore as a statesman of the highest order. The film/documentary he presented to this sleeping world was a fabulous wakeup call. Those who put themselves out there are often vilified for some reason. At least they have the guts to do it . So many people just love to sit in the background and critisize. This planet is crying out for us to help her heal. Can you not feel her pain? Al Gore helped to bring to the world the imediacy of her predicament. I salute that man from the bottom of my heart!!!

Lotus · 12-15-2008, 01:13 AM

Ashatav

You can believe what ever you like about global warming, I don't care, I'm just pointing out your headline about 30,000 scientists suing Al Gore is a total fabrication.

Ashatav · 12-15-2008, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotus

Ashatav

You can believe what ever you like about global warming, I don't care, I'm just pointing out your headline about 30,000 scientists suing Al Gore is a total fabrication.

Maybe you can see these links, some have links inside to.

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ETC. ETC.

Might be less fabrication and more reality after all.

30000 cientists signed for the petiton.

2000 + - cientists are the people not against the global warming scam.

Cheers

Ashatav · 12-15-2008, 09:03 PM

7 Cientific graphics to end the Global WArming Hype

Eight reasons to end the global warming scam

Moore likely Ice Age than Global "magic" Warming

Financial ties of Al Gore in the Global Warming scam

The Green AGENDA (top web site with all the ties)

Global climate scam web page

Cheers

12-13-2008, 05:56 PM	#27
Lotus Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hawaii Posts: 90	Re: Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for fraud Al Gore is NOT being sued by 30,000 scientists!!!!! This post is complete B.S. It's the claim of a wacky, right wing TV weatherman, who ran the Weather Channel for one year. Even in the video he claims they've SIGNED a petition - NOT SUING. And that number is not even true. In 1998, the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine began circulating a deceptive "scientists" petition" on global warming. Their website enables people to add their names to the petition over the Internet, and by June 2000 it claimed to have recruited more than 19,000 scientists. The institute is so lax about screening names, however, that virtually anyone can sign, including for example Al Caruba, a pesticide-industry PR man and conservative ideologue who runs his own website called the "National Anxiety Center." When questioned in 1998, the OISM's founder Arthur Robinson admitted that only 2,100 signers of the Oregon Petition had identified themselves as physicists, geophysicists, climatologists, or meteorologists, "and of those the greatest number are physicists." This grouping of fields concealed the fact that only a few dozen, at most, of the signatories were drawn from the core disciplines of climate science - such as meteorology, oceanography, and glaciology - and almost none were climate specialists. Even in 2003, the list was loaded with misspellings, duplications, name and title fragments, and names of non-persons, such as company names. The NAS issued a blunt formal response to the the petition drive. "The NAS Council would like to make it clear that this petition has nothing to do with the National Academy of Sciences and that the manuscript was not published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences or in any other peer-reviewed journal," it stated in a news release. "The petition does not reflect the conclusions of expert reports of the Academy." In fact, it pointed out, its own prior published study had shown that, "even given the considerable uncertainties in our knowledge of the relevant phenomena, greenhouse warming poses a potential threat sufficient to merit prompt responses. Investment in mitigation measures acts as insurance protection against the great uncertainties and the possibility of dramatic surprises." AND - The OISM markets a home-schooling kit for "parents concerned about socialism in the public schools" and publishes books on how to survive nuclear war, including Nuclear War Survival Skills (foreword by H-bomb inventor Edward Teller), which argues that "the dangers from nuclear weapons have been distorted and exaggerated" into "demoralizing myths." Arthur Robinson also co-authored Fighting Chance: Ten Feet to Survival, in collaboration with Gary North, who like Robinson is a conservative Christian. North is also a prolific author of doomsday books with titles such as None Dare Call It Witchcraft, Conspiracy: A Biblical View, and Rapture Fever.

12-13-2008, 09:58 PM	#28
alyscat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Washington state Posts: 743	Re: Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for fraud Once again we find "conservative Christians" a little lax with the truth when trying to push their political agenda, while at the same time accusing others of doing the exact same thing they're doing. tsk, tsk Hard to build credibility that way, y'know. At some point thinking people will start to discount everything that is said in the old "cry wolf" syndrome. alys

12-15-2008, 01:13 AM	#31
Lotus Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hawaii Posts: 90	Re: Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for fraud Ashatav You can believe what ever you like about global warming, I don't care, I'm just pointing out your headline about 30,000 scientists suing Al Gore is a total fabrication.

12-15-2008, 09:03 PM	#33
Ashatav Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 603	Re: Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for fraud 7 Cientific graphics to end the Global WArming Hype Eight reasons to end the global warming scam Moore likely Ice Age than Global "magic" Warming Financial ties of Al Gore in the Global Warming scam The Green AGENDA (top web site with all the ties) Global climate scam web page Cheers