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Old 03-14-2009, 11:40 PM   #1
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Default I have no wish to offend anyone, but...

I mean no disrespect with this thread, just a thought i wish for you all to answer..

I have heard so many times, "peace and love" along with so many other nice greetings and scentiments. It is really nice to hear people say it, especially to me a non spiritual person.

I have to ask the question of:, what if this love in the world is actually being exploited, used to make a weakness within us, seeing as it seems to be such a strong force. Being used to bring down the human race for whatever reasons.

Lets be honest here, if you were special forces looking for a weakness in someone to " bring them down" and we all spoke of love and peace here, then, surely they would use it as a tool to take s down??

Who is it that named a tree a tree?, a plate a plate and love as love : as a good thing?. what if love was really hatred and hatred was really love? Think about it before you answer me in a i dont know sort of way or even call me a crack head. By the way i do no drugs what so ever. Answer me in an honest way not a way as you think i were an agent or something. just think first...

I am not looking for an argument, neither am i trying to disrespect peoples belief`s but, i have often wondered and thought it a good idea to ask you guys and gals. I need to hear your wisdom as this obviously pops up in my head.

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Old 03-15-2009, 12:07 AM   #2
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OK, seems a taboo question, appologies if i have offended anyone but, for me its just a question.

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Old 03-15-2009, 12:08 AM   #3
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if special forces come in to play you can forget about all the love and peace thing because they will not be bringing any with them . If they show up you have a choice if they say get on the truck then you make your choice.. Do it or not . I saw last week for the first time in a canadian newspaper where the commander in chief of our military said that he could see a possible need to intern Canadian citizens on military bases in the event of a nuke or bioterrorism event . The paper was the National Post What difference does it make if we stay in our homes and face exposure or get corralled in a pen to face it ?

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1353971

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Old 03-15-2009, 12:13 AM   #4
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Love is a hard word to come to terms with and understand. We have love for our wives and husbands, girlfriends and boyfriends, then there is love for our relatives which is somewhat different. There is love we have for pets and then love for friends. Then there is another kind of love we have for our fellow humans. An individual who has each of these types of love, is aware of their subtle differences.

Love is not necessarily the same for each of us, but one thing that sets it apart from other emotions is that it is good, positive and uplifting. To love someone, gives one a warm and contented feeling. To be loved by someone is the most precious thing imaginable. No other emotion has the power of healing that love has.

To give it and receive it, is our reason for living. The more we give, the more we receive. With love, comes peace. The two can't be separated.
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Old 03-15-2009, 12:19 AM   #5
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If there was a comprehension of love, there would be no reason to question.
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Old 03-15-2009, 12:19 AM   #6
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Ammit you are a wiseman
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Old 03-15-2009, 12:22 AM   #7
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It's a little confusing what you're asking but
Love is a feel good word that makes you and others feel good, and
hatred is a feel bad word that makes you and others feel bad, but
in order to evolve spiritually we're supposed to learn and live unconditional love.
There's also different levels of enemies, will I love a mortal enemy? no!
As far as one meaning one thing and another meaning something different, we would have to go back to the very beginning of speech and word formation to change that.

The only way that love can win is if the whole world embraces unconditional love, as long as there is hatred around love could be looked upon as a weakness I guess. I'm not there yet and if that means I have to go through the 3D world again, so be it, I like it here anyway! LOL!
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Old 03-15-2009, 12:25 AM   #8
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Ammit you are a wiseman
Dont take the mikky, its a serious question for me. but thanks for all the replies so far. Believe me, if you knew me personnally you would know i meant no harm and loved all of life.

I just needed to ask the question to simply answer some of mine.

Love you all

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Old 03-15-2009, 12:31 AM   #9
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If there was a comprehension of love, there would be no reason to question.
Inot only have a comprehension of love but also respect for your answers my friend, but as i say, its just a question i need to have answers to making helping me understand things.
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Old 03-15-2009, 12:49 AM   #10
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Ok, maybe i need to be honest here. I work in care. i look after old folk who`s families have long forgotten that they even exist. I do things most would not but hey, if it helps them and makes this one day better because of me then yeah i will ask the question...


When i get multiple requests per day to end a life i need to ask, when a person believes no one in there family cares, yep, i need to ask.

I am a trained surface mount techy and have designed a pure silver surfacemount pasting system to build pace makers, so if a loved one you know uses one of these then, maybe i helped a little to keep them going.

I left the industry on a whim, sort of, to help directly in the care sector thinking i could do some good, alas i must be **** as i am one in 3 blokes in a system of 40+ girls that cannot even take a more responsible position in the day to day care of these folk. Th girls however do fine?
If i dont care then who cares

sorry i digressed.

Jesus, I cant say more

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Old 03-15-2009, 01:00 AM   #11
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Sorry guys and gals, i do hope i have not offended anyone with my questions, as that is not my wish.

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Old 03-15-2009, 01:09 AM   #12
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Stop worrying about offending anybody!, if anybody is offended by you asking a couple questions then it's their fault, not yours! I can't possibly imagine that anybody would be offended by this, and if so then they have a lot more to work on in life!
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:11 AM   #13
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Thankyou..
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:44 AM   #14
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Love us not a con. Love is real.

Love can not be exploited. Only the idea of love can be.

Love is the key to our near future around these parts. If we get love, and choose it, all will be ok. Hate will dissolve in it's presence.

Love is your best protection, in that it eliminates the need to think in terms of protection.
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:49 AM   #15
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Love is an emotiona/feeling state of mind or it might just be who we are. love.
Hate is an emotion, a feeling, a though, a state of mind. It might just be who we are, hate.
They just are. we can go from one to the other in 2 second. which one will we choose. which one feels better. I guess that depends on the feeler.
There's not one right answer.
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:51 AM   #16
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Questioning is good.
We are all here to learn.
We love - we learn
We hate - we learn.
it's so simple, yet so complex
God Bless
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:52 AM   #17
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Thankyou..
Love is what it feels like to be a contious state of bestowal, without expecting anything in return. No matter how you are treated,you are always bestowing. look at nature, bestowing and nurturing unconditionally.

When mankind's every thought and action is for the whole of life ,then he will experience love.

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Old 03-15-2009, 01:54 AM   #18
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"how you weave your energy,
as your light
in the highest expression of your truth, with integrity,
is love"
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:55 AM   #19
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i once ran into someone,
who though they were channeling,
The Father God, and, The Mother God
turns out they were channeling
The Imposter God
and, The Goddess of Lies !!!
(which, was quite a can of worms)
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:58 AM   #20
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Worry not Ammit, I am sure not one of us here takes this as an attack of any sort.

However, I think I know where you were coming from...

In a day and age where we have police and fbi infiltrating protest groups and supporters of liberties and rights, why not could one of them infiltrate a site such as this and lead people astray with their message of "love and peace"?

AS well being as we are, we must always be cautious of who we are associating ourselves with and examine in detail the message and purpose of those whomcome into our lives each and every day.
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Old 03-15-2009, 02:18 AM   #21
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Hands that help are holier than lips that pray

Many are doing lip service - some mean it some dont

If someone says he loves and cares for his old mother in the care center but never visits he obviously is doing lip service

Characters are built by action in this case by frequently coming to visit and bringing some flowers and snacks to his old mother

The Soul will leave the body when its time
Dont worry about it or try to hasten this process

Maybe this time you are called to care - for the good of the old and also yourself

Seems to me you are doing good work : )
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Old 03-15-2009, 02:18 AM   #22
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Ammit, even our understanding of the word love comes from what WE bring to it. Our perceptions of what it means. Can we be led astray? Only if we don't know what we bring to the table, whether it's love, hate, or whatever.

Blessings - sounds like you might be in a difficult space right now.
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Old 03-15-2009, 04:02 AM   #23
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I don't see a danger in love being used to create weakness. The "dark plan", as I see it, is to divide people in as many ways as possible - by country, by religion, by politics, by sports, by isolation in homes in front of TVs, etc., etc. Anything that brings people together for positive reasons, to help in any way, is a good thing. Anyone who is committed to unselfish love cannot be taken advantage of - all is freely given.

I think there is some potential for people on the positive path to be sidetracked into inaction. We each need to find our own way of making the world a better place, and that must start within, but it does not end within. Ammit, you have found a place helping the elderly. I have adopted a teen. I'm sure most people here are doing something.

So don't worry about semantics. Love is not weakness and hatred is not strength. We can't fight our way to peace, but that doesn't mean we are free to do nothing.

Don't know if this makes much sense ... just have confidence in your own intuition.
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Old 03-15-2009, 06:48 AM   #24
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In light of Camelots latest post, I lifted this from "The golden tread - News Thread.
Is the message getting through?

TO ALL OUR WONDERFUL MEMBERS and THE PUBLIC
WHO READ HERE ..


While I have direct access to Dr Dan and Dr Marcia,
I will not disturb them at this crucial time.

Dan has told me in the past that ANY INFORMATION regarding the
safety and well being of the denizens of this beautiful planet,
no matter how earthshaking, he will stand on his HONOR and
let us KNOW .

If you have seen the recent image of Dan you will understand the
weight of this responsibility.

ROCK STEADY everyone .. STAY CENTERED, and most of all
be aware of the living breathing sentience of our MOTHER EARTH.

We are in unprecedented times, and of course will occasionally
be experiencing bumps, jolts, and heart fluttering moments .

How we think .. so we make the world.

With this in mind ..Prayers and Meditations for the well being of ALL beings
and safe passage for our Mother Earth contribute in the MOST POSITIVE
fashion to the continuum that we live in.

This kind of action is something that EVERYONE CAN DO in the silences of
our souls ..

LOVE IS THE GLUE OF THE UNIVERSE !!

UPDATES CAN BE FOUND AT OUR FLAGSHIP FORUM

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Old 03-15-2009, 09:20 AM   #25
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Lets be honest here, if you were special forces looking for a weakness in someone to " bring them down" and we all spoke of love and peace here, then, surely they would use it as a tool to take s down??



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