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PM Stephen Harper Ties The Knot With 3 Prorogations Since Taking Office
The Canadian Parliament House of Commons has suspended its sessions until March 3rd/2010 which begs the question of whether this Conservative coalition led by Prime Minister Stephen Harper knows what it means to be democratically accountable to the people of Canada. Subversion of parliamentary democracy appears to be "the name of the game" for this holidaying Prime Minister until after the Olympics are over with.... no doubt most Canadians will see him in the movies on the Whistler slopes with "Scambell" Premier Gordon Campbell each of them drinking a "toddy" to ease their supposed woes. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/0...iament_suspend The suspension of parliamentary activity means Conservative cabinet ministers won't face daily questions from their political opponents. It also means all committees will be disbanded, scuttling the hearings into the controversial handling of Afghan detainees, for example. It means the Conservatives will have time to fill five Senate vacancies with their own allies, robbing the Liberals of a majority in the upper house. And it means the Conservatives will have more control over the timing of an election call, by making votes on the budget and the throne speech a confidence issue. __________________________________________________ __________ |
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Starlah - Since the GG consented to this latest prorogation, do you suppose she is doing the Queen's bidding, or is the GG an independent decision-maker about it? For instance, I wrote my MP and the GG, but should I be writing the Queen as Executive? And really, if so, is the Queen ready for a bunch of emails from disgruntled Canadians? What exactly is her function and democratic infrastructure to respond, to act or to even care? What are Her motives anyway?! Are they even stated clearly somewhere... anywhere... ? In a kind of policy statement.... ?
In Stephen Harper's own words ('97): We have an executive, we have two legislative houses, and we have a Supreme Court. However, our executive is the Queen, who doesn't live here. Her representative is the Governor General, who is an appointed buddy of the Prime Minister. I don't want to follow the gossip, statements, photo shoots, history on the 'The official website of the British Monarchy,' fascinating as it may be. I want to click on a link that says Canada - How we govern you and PS don't email me. Please. http://www.royal.gov.uk/ It's all behind the scenes. I chose my Realm (Canada) as a member of the Commonwealth, but the general websites are the same for all the Commonwealth countries. Should I check Media Information? Does the GG pass on Her emails (from disgruntled Canadians) to The Queen? Is there even a protocol? Can Canadians see these reports, if there are any? Or is that too much to ask for the little pisswash public? Stephen Harper has already axed all kinds of Access to Information freedoms. So, who do I complain to about it. Last edited by no caste; 01-01-2010 at 03:08 PM. |
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Also worthy of mention is that a Facebook group called
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Maybe it has to do with a planned attack at the Olympics:
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If you ever want to see the worse of conservatism, Canada still has a Bush crony in office.
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01-05-2010, 05:10 PM | #7 | |
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Starlah - Thanks for all of those great responses. Whew, I was hoping those weren't rhetorical questions! Must admit, still wondering WTF on this $^&*(#%$#. I checked the Facebook site too - awesome!! More stupid news - Obama is back from holidays in Hawai'i to discuss security issues, like the 7 dead CIA agents and 1 dead Jordanian intelligence officer in Afghanistan (the double agent who killed them was let into the facility without a body check). Obama is supposed to make a statement about airport security. So, John Baird will probably do something In Synch, re airport security, since our government appears to have no mind of its own, head up the a** of you-know-who. Wiggle Waggle Walkathon. metaw3 - I've wondered about that too. All this heightened BS. |
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01-05-2010, 05:14 PM | #8 |
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Being from Quebec...Federal politics is always a sore subject.
Mr. Harper is not running a country, he is fulfilling an agenda... The Federal separatists, were willing to team up with the opposition to stop him...didnt work... We canadians can be to nice sometime... it is time to take action... |
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MAYBE WE SHOULD WORK ON A LETTER TO MR. HARPER:
AN OPEN LETTER TO MR. HARPER Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 11:11:11 Dear Mr. Harper, Please find below my suggestion for fixing Canada's economy. Instead of giving billions of dollars to banks and car companies, that THEY will squander and waste the money on lavish parties and unearned bonuses, we suggest you utilsie the following plan: There are about 20 million people over 50 in the work force. Pay everyone who is over 50 $1 million apiece severance for early retirement with the following stipulations: 1) They MUST retire. Twenty million job openings - Unemployment fixed. 2) They MUST buy a new Canadian CAR. Twenty million cars ordered - Auto Industry fixed. 3) They MUST either buy a house or pay off their mortgage - Housing Crisis fixed. 4) They must send their kids to school / college /university - Crime rate fixed 5) They must buy $50 of alcohol / tobacco / petrol a week... there's your money back in duty / tax etc It can NOT get any easier than that! P.S. If more money is needed, have all members of parliament pay back their falsely claimed expenses and second home allowances. If you think this would work, please forward to everyone you know. If not, please disregard |
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Point #5 would "disqualify" many Canadians over 50 who don't indulge in those particular "vices"....even though I enjoy them...and point #4 is obsolete as there are many Canadians over 50 who have no children that would welcome a severance package of $1million for early retirement. The word "retirement" is a wonky word anyways....its meant to reflect a person's level of income......and whether you've been slogging away at the same job for X number of years. How can a person feel truly "retired" or in "retirement mode" if they have had a patchy work history, accumulated minimal income or assets from their work experiences and yet are approaching "retirement age". Unless a person is physically or mentally disabled the word "retirement" becomes obsolete even to the banks. __________________________________________________ __________ Kick at the darkness til it bleeds daylight.............Bruce Cockburn |
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01-10-2010, 07:43 PM | #11 |
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Starlah! By Jove, I think I got it!
For correspondence relating to issues of Canadian concern, Her Majesty defers to the Governor General, in her role as a representative of the Crown, for all other correspondence. For most topics, please address your enquiries to: Correspondence Policy, Program And Protocol Branch Rideau Hall 1 Sussex Drive Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A1 http://www.gg.ca/document.aspx?id=325 Also, re Canada's Governor General - # By Email: info@gg.ca # By Phone: 613-993-8200 # Toll-free in Canada and the United States: 1-800-465-6890 If you wish to write to the Governor General you may address the letter to: Her Excellency the Right Honourable Michaëlle Jean Governor General of Canada Rideau Hall 1 Sussex Drive Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A1 (no postage necessary) The full title of the Governor General is: Her Excellency The Right Honourable Michaëlle Jean, C.C., C.M.M., C.O.M., C.D. Governor General of Canada The title of the Governor General's spouse is: His Excellency Jean-Daniel Lafond, C.C. You can write to His Excellency at the same address. If you want to write to both of them, address the letter to: Their Excellencies The Right Honourable Michaëlle Jean Governor General of Canada and Mr. Jean-Daniel Lafond The salutation is: Excellencies Lots of Excellencies! |
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This is on Democratic Underground - Mon Jan-11-10 07:40 PM
Parliament Prorogued to Shut Down Afghan Inquiry: Flanagan Power & Politics Video: "Everybody knows that the Parliament was prorogued in order to shut down the Afghan inquiry..." http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Politics/ID=1383056826 I don't know what Tom Flanagan is doing lately, but I'll bet you Harper is kicking chairs tonight. |
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Arthur Kent's website:
AFGHAN QUAGMIRE SILENCES CANADA’S HOUSE OF COMMONS Jan 9-10 In truth, there has been an unwritten fatwa maintained by the Prime Minister’s Office against discussion of any and all controversial aspects of the Afghan debacle, as evidenced by the PMO’s consistent refusal to comment on the investigations reported here since Skyreporter went on line in March, 2007. As a result of this information control freakery, Canadians have been treated to a rose-tinted depiction of the crumbling House of Karzai. By concealing the regime’s corruption, the government and its NATO allies hoped to avoid having to do anything about it. http://www.skyreporter.com/ |
01-13-2010, 02:16 AM | #15 |
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I'm sure the PM suffers from Asperger's or some other form of autism, like Bill Gates and many others supposedly "functioning" autists...
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Decloaking during the Olympics? Anyone?
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Clement was sad about not getting email complaints, so I wrote him twice. Interesting about 4x. The MP in my area is Conservative. It's just awful - I swear the party loyalists comb through letters, use it as a platform for marketing instead of ... whatever, twist it up for talking points the following day. This is an interesting table re 'lost days' of work. 28th Parliament - Trudeau (majority) 1969/10/22 - 0 Days 1970/10/7 - 0 Days 1972/2/16 - 0 Days 29th Parliament - Trudeau (majority) 1974/2/26 - 0 Days 30th Parliament - Trudeau (majority) 1976/10/12 - 0 Days 1977/10/17 - 0 Days 1978/10/10 - 0 Days 32nd Parliament - Trudeau (majority) 1983/11/30 - 6 Days *** 39th Parliament - Harper (minority) 2007/9/14 - 31 Days 40th Parliament - Harper (minority) 2008/12/4 - 62 Days 2009/12/30? - ? Days --- AND --- The current PM's objections to prorogation in 2004. September 9, 2004 Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne Clarkson,C.C., C.M.M., C.O.M., C.D.Governor General Rideau Hall 1 Sussex Drive Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A1 Excellency, As leaders of the opposition parties, we are well aware that, given the Liberal minority government, you could be asked by the Prime Minister to dissolve the 38th Parliament at any time should the House of Commons fail to support some part of the government's program. We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation. We believe that, should a request for dissolution arise this should give you cause, as constitutional practicehas determined, to consult the opposition leaders and consider all of your options before exercising your constitutional authority. Your attention to this matter is appreciated. Sincerely, Hon. Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P.Leader of the Opposition Leader of the Conservative Party of Canada Gilles Duceppe, M.P.Leader of the Bloc Quebecois Jack Layton, M.P.Leader of the New Democratic Party It would be great to get more information about the 1-2-3-4- Harper prorogues. Mostly with the Excellencies lol I'm just trying to figure out how this country has gone constitutionally down the bowl. There was something I read about the UK changing things in 2007 (they had a similar situation), where prorogues now have to be voted on in the House of Commons. For me what is going on is clearly an abuse of power and partisanship at its dangerous worst. It's terrible. Last edited by no caste; 01-13-2010 at 06:09 AM. |
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Regardless, I would suggest rallies with signs telling Harper to get his pasty white ass back to work. Can't you guys impeach the ******* or anything? |
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No Caste or anyone who has joined the Facebook Link which I received from my Yukon friends regarding rallies across Canada slated for January 23rd/10 could you give me the date, time and info for the rally in Vancouver, British Columbia?....thanks.....I have an aversion for Facebook and to get any information you have to be a member of Facebook.
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It looks like one inquiry is continuing - could be where everyone is.
CPCCA INQUIRY PANEL TO CONTINUE THROUGH PROROGATION CPCCA Inquiry Panel to hear additional witnesses including Hon. Jason Kenney, Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism (January 11th, 2010) The Canadian Parliamentary Coalition to Combat Antisemitism will continue to hear testimony from professionals throughout the Canadian justice and law enforcement system as it prepares to wrap up its hearings... Once the hearings are completed the Inquiry Panel will write a report to be published and presented to the Government of Canada in the spring of 2010. http://www.cpcca.ca/home.htm IN-DEPTH ARTICLE: "We’re calling on activists around the globe to organize an action between December 27th through December 31st to send Obama, the US State Department and Congress a message to pressure the Israeli government to Lift the Siege on Gaza Now! 'Is it anti-semitic to defend Palestinian human rights?' By Edward C. Corrigan, BA, MA, LL.B. - August 26 2009" http://rainbowwarrior2005.wordpress....dom-of-speech/ No, it's not. Why would it be? Is it criminal to hide behind hate legislation to dehumanize and kill civilians? The timing all coincides with the UN Gaza Report release in March 2010. I've ranted about it: *here < US/UK dismiss findings http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16691 *here < the nightmare business http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16697 *here < Iranian physicist killed - motorbike remote http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19179 *elsewhere re depleted uranium and white phosphorus, attacks during truces, the Israeli soldiers videos re Standard Operating Procedure, ... |
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Obviously Canada is a much different place.
Every single day Congress is NOT in session in the US, means
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