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03-21-2010, 06:32 AM | #1 |
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This break up shows why we humans aren't ready to transcend. Or maybe ascend.
This division among the awake people that participate on this forum shows why we humans aren't ready to join the galactic community of beings that are committed to a service to others approach to life.
It's sad, but it's our current reality. I'm not saying that none of us are ready to be part of a compassionate, loving world. I'm just saying that Project Avalon is a well above average example of human activity, and the opposition is clearly here. We have a long way to go to be ready to be a part of the enlightened planets of our galaxy. I hope we become ready before it's too late. |
03-21-2010, 07:25 AM | #2 |
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Re: This break up shows why we humans aren't ready to transcend. Or maybe ascend.
as the division ... the drama of what was occuring within our family here was unfolding ... i too felt such deep sadness ... sadness that we were becoming separated ... i felt it within my heart ... enough that i decided to leave ... couldn't remain where there was such pain occuring ...
after some time ... i realized leaving was not the answer ... leaving no longer resonated with me ... remaining here and once again locating unity with us all was the work we had ahead of us ... free will ... we can choose whatever feels appropriate for us ... and we should ... but isn't this ... a part of our journey ... individual and as a unit? isn't this ... learning towards unification? what learning ... will leaving bring ... that resonated with me even less ... no ... perhaps we as a human race are not ready for our destination right in this moment ... but ... our learning ... our experiences upon our path of truth ... IS indeed ... our process to the new world ... a very different way of life ... i feel ... the time is now to know our truth ... realize what is actual and what is merely illusion ... transcend ego ... ascend to BE with our higher selves ... i feel ... this break up experienced ... initially surfaced our weaknesses as a whole ... but ... since then ... i feel we have realized immensely what we have learned from it ... how we allowed our ego to govern us ... how we allowed the wedge of agenda ... however it arrived ... to divide and separate us ... realize ... learn and move forward once again ... as a whole once more ... i feel this process strengthened us ... in many ways ... i feel this experience by all ... was not a weakness ... not in the big picture of what is unfolding ... perhaps not in this moment ... perhaps not tomorrow ... but ... we WILL ... and we ARE ... BEcoming who we really are once more ... and this ... this was merely a stepping stone ... a big stone for certain ... but i feel ... we have learned and are navigating our path as a whole to one that is even more truer ... than what was ... i truly do ... we are learning ... to disintigrate our fears ... we are learning ... to live within truth ... and we are ... BEcoming stronger for it ... avalon ... certainly is a well above average example of human activity ... remembering ... there are NO coincidences ... if we can't figure this out here ... seeking and coming to know our truth by way of integration with others ... how in the world will others figure it out ... whatever happens here is quick ... boom boom boom ... learn it ... live it ... continue moving forward ... CONTINUE ... moving forward within love and wisdom and strength gained ... on this journey ... no sadness ... just happiness that we are transcending ... within our own selves ... within our beloved forum ... within this world ... it takes time ... and experiences ... we are strong ... we WILL ... arrive ... carpe diem ... |
03-21-2010, 07:46 AM | #3 |
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03-21-2010, 09:15 AM | #4 |
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Re: This break up shows why we humans aren't ready to transcend. Or maybe ascend.
"Division has started at third-dimensional level, and the groups of frequencies present in your plane of existence are being regrouped.
From now on, you will be seeing many signs of division and regrouping manifesting in your reality. Companies will split, friends will stop seeing each other, families will separate, groups will be divided, etc. And at the same time you will be witnessing the absolute opposite; you will join new groups, you will feel closer than ever to your loved ones, family and friends. This change is neither positive nor negative. It is existential. This is a natural step in the mass-ascension process." source: http://www.emmanuelmessages.com/?p=668 . |
03-21-2010, 09:31 AM | #5 |
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Re: This break up shows why we humans aren't ready to transcend. Or maybe ascend.
Birth Pains thats all.
Not be-littling the process. We are in the crucible, all in purities are being burnt off. Why worry God knows what he is doing. Only ego can feel this type of pain. We are seeing the dying thros of the lower state of consciouses. Not pleasant but necessary. We made it through this stage, dident we? Love to all. Ch |
03-22-2010, 08:43 AM | #6 | |
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Re: This break up shows why we humans aren't ready to transcend. Or maybe ascend.
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i do not see division here...as one of my favorite poets says.. "Stop trying to calculate the difference between people, people dont need division" The hurt that some speak of (or dont speak of) is also something we have in common.. "we will only find equality in our number of tears" Misunderstandings are both ways. Some ,in this thread, this forum , other forums, are still holding onto truths that are Un true..this breaks my heart. I spent time trying to figure out why, no matter how much it is repeated some still prefer to believe these un-truths...The conclusion i came to was that they wish to believe it.I cannot change this, realizing that has given me a freedom from responsibility...but it greatly saddens my heart. No matter what, my love never falter..through all the name calling....the talking beyind my back.... The satan poll.... Though i must say that one gave me a laugh...(who knew satan is a florist?? lol)..but the other ones did not may m laugh.. Most of the time, i am very used to being a target...But to see the name calling and schoolyard tactics that were aimed at my husband (both public and private)...REALLy got to me...still does somewhat...picking on me is easy, i am reactionary and emotionally based, no big skill there...but what was said about him, was truly beyond my understanding of how enlightened and loving people behave. "Justice isn't Justice.. It Just... IS" ellie..in the name of moving on.. i offer some clarity... The invite process is mostly random. As the MODS have stated more the once , YES some are NOT getting invited because they have been trouble makers.. I think Karen said she had about 12 people that she saw as "toublemakers" (not sure if she used that term or not ).... Perhaps instead of holding onto the pain of this consequence...working on healing and growing would be best. I am sorry for any pain, anger or confusion my words and actions may have created. All was done in the name of love and my only desire through all of this was to help. My mistakes are a part of who i am, i can only grow stronger by accepting them I am honored to be amongst some of the most enlightened and loving people on the Internet . I listen and learn very well and am always seeking opportunity to add to my growth. So i must disagree withe the OP's statement and say that this is a natural path to ascension... |
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03-22-2010, 09:31 AM | #7 |
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Re: This break up shows why we humans aren't ready to transcend. Or maybe ascend.
Individual paths yes, but right now 'the' task at hand is the 'collective' ascension of humanity to a higher level.. and I have to agree with droid56.
There is a technique in marketing called focus groups, they gather 100 people from a target demographics and see how well they fare.. then they use this to extrapolate to the entire demographics. One could say that this forum is a focus group of behavior of people who have reached a great part of the consciousness that will be the norm in the world of tomorrow. It is funny how synchronicity works.. just few days ago in an article I wrote I gave this forum (and what happened) as an example of why even those that have advanced considerably in awareness are not ready to function in a self-sustaining society run by them. Its good many are starting to realise the problem here (which is collaboration). Perhaps the solution will follow.. many are watching and waiting |
03-22-2010, 11:20 AM | #8 |
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Re: This break up shows why we humans aren't ready to transcend. Or maybe ascend.
I spend considerably more time reading these threads than talking on them and by doing so eventually a pattern can be seen for different members.
I am not commenting on any particular member, but Some think that being spiritual means constantly saying love and peace in every post and having fancy dreamy avatars and names. Some think it means pouncing on posters and telling them how they should think and behave. Some of those who claim to be the most spiritual and loving shout the loudest and complain the most. I said it before in another thread, You are not judged by what you tell people you are or by what you want people to think you are, but by what can clearly be seen you are, in your behavior on the forum. The True you will always shine out when the going gets tough, or someone upsets you or has a go at your friend. Everyone likes to think they are kind and loving and spiritual, but for many it is just an act of what they would like to be, and so is just on the surface, not a way of life and deep in their soul and everyday life. The genuine ones will know exactly what I am talking about, and with that inner peace comes a very important trait, Patience, there doesn't seem to be much of that about. |
03-22-2010, 01:27 PM | #9 |
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Re: This break up shows why we humans aren't ready to transcend. Or maybe ascend.
I feel that overcoming this so-called division is necessary, but cannot be done through the limitations of the medium (this forum) we use. It can help us in that direction, but in my opinion this needs to be done in 3-D.
I didn't get involved too much with the Avolonian struggling pains. Yes, on one level it's a pity we (let ourselves be) divide(d), though I agree it's all part of the process and we have the potential to rise out of its ashes. I followed the different threads, witnessed Bill and Kerry splitting / dividing core focus, etc... Three words kept bouncing back to me in my brainuter (brain & computer :-): 'all that jive'... Last weekend I attended a workshop on how to built a sweat lodge in the Dakota tradition. We didn't speak much, but were in a same vibe! We made a fire and spoke out our intentions, after we sweat it out for 2 hours. In the sweat lodge there was room for more talk. We let go of old inner and outer connections which didn't work anymore. When it was my turn, I spoke out that there was too much story, after which I decided to speak jibberish. I invited the others to speak their jibber. We all jibbered after which everything became relaxed. I felt like we were in a broader vibe where story evaporated and our hearts got in tune. In Avalon most of us try to look at our own thoughts, judgements, emotions and have decided to walk our inner path, listened to 'the call'. We became more sensitive to what's out there (the different stories) and how we are being manipulated, but more important we see how we keep ourselves in this mental and physical state (ego clutching on to a story for its survival). Yup! It's a process of breaking free from that and I think by getting together on this forum we can get feedback from likeminded / likehearted people. It's my opinion, however, to try to incorporate this in real life after which you can give back what you've learned. I hope one day some of us can get in contact with each other to get to that 'next level', free of (too much) story! Anyway, that's how I see it. Getting to know the bigger picture is important. I don't believe everything that's out there, but by wanting to deal with the possibilies, we have the oppurtunity to explore our potential and to change our relationship with the world, how to let (ego) go and at the same time be aware and take 3-D action from the heart. Pz, light and 1Love! xxdA. Last edited by dAkapacity; 03-22-2010 at 01:54 PM. |
03-22-2010, 04:03 PM | #10 |
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Re: This break up shows why we humans aren't ready to transcend. Or maybe ascend.
If you only speak of complete truth, than you will have nothing to hide. If your beliefs are real and strong for you than you can handle any form of criticism.
If you lie, or are not sure of your beliefs than you might feel threaten and nervous that your plans/agenda will be exposed with some tough questions. I want us all to live in a better future…I’m just not so sure if everyone else here wants the same. Restrictions and favoritism has always caused more harm than good. The truth haves a way of making itself known. Thru all the talking and typing, action always speaks louder than words, just watch what happens... Peace |
03-22-2010, 10:56 PM | #11 | |
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It occurs to me that your perception of what truth & un-truth is, has been coloured & clouded as it suits you. Lying has become second nature to you. You want me to believe that this whole PA2 operation, has been set in motion to get rid of 12 'troublemakers'? Celine, I believe you! You are sorry for the pain, anger & confusion you have created? Good for you, Celine! Your mistakes are part of who you are? Whatever, Celine. You want to be loved & you don't care by whom. That is so sad! I also want to be loved. But only by people I highly respect &/or admire. Your love, Richard's love, Bill's love, the pope's love; it means absolutely nothing to me. Never has, never will. Listen & learn very well, Celine: One is master over that what hasn't been said, & a slave of the words which came out of your mouth, & have been heard. Think before you speak, Celine. And learn when to listen & when to talk. You can't do both at the same time. The above is not meant to insult you Celine, although you have been insulting my intelligence more than once. Last edited by TRANCOSO; 03-23-2010 at 12:27 AM. |
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03-23-2010, 11:24 PM | #12 |
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Re: This break up shows why we humans aren't ready to transcend. Or maybe ascend.
Why couldn't certain posting and moderating guidelines have been applied to the current Avalon...making Avalon 2 unnecessary? I can understand refining the forum to make it more pastoral and user friendly...but I still have a problem with the move and with other happenings over the past several weeks. It seems as though something was deemed to be too hot to handle within this forum...and that it had to be shut-down. I still haven't heard an explanation as to why 'Thuban Thoughts' was removed...and not returned in even a read-only form. I fully understand reasonable censorship and the calm revelation of new information and concepts. I fully support evolutionary change over revolutionary change. But really...the number of people who view this forum is very, very small...and most of them are already unconventional thinkers. People who are upset by the material discussed...probably go elsewhere...rather than becoming upset day after day. Having said all of the above...I would like to see a more scholarly forum. Not necessarily populated by arrogant PhD's...but rather along the lines of a class of eager graduate students. Even when Avalon goes to read-only...I plan to spend a lot of time reviewing the information within this site. I've been brain-storming up to this point...and I suspect that the real learning will occur during the review process. A university should offer a graduate degree in Avalon Studies!
I think we humans have a long way to go before we are genuinely responsible. But I'm really mad about the alien intervention and manipulation. If it was just about reigning in a renegade human race...I might be a lot more understanding. But it seems to go way beyond that...into the realm of unspeakable cruelty and corruption. I still want that Solar System Exorcism. Who knows...it might be well underway. I suspect as much. I'm beginning to think that the rest of the universe is more screwed-up than we are. Correct me if I'm wrong. To me...the biggest part of 'ascension' would be for the human race to be sovereign and responsibly free throughout this solar system. I'm not into all of the dimensional, density, holographic, and vibrational new age mumbo jumbo. With me...it's very down to earth physical and spiritual development...which is highly ethical and psychologically well-balanced. We need to all be the new elites...instead of being treated like children or even cattle. Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 03-23-2010 at 11:35 PM. |
03-24-2010, 06:36 AM | #13 | |
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The Thuban issue was complex. Here is just one facet of it. I heard of 12 reports like this. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...&postcount=353 http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...&postcount=355 I've never in the history of the forum seen a topic divide us like this one did. Here is a copy of a post to another thread: Project Avalon 2.0 has been being worked on for several months and is to be a bit more focused in the direction of the original intent of Bill Ryan. It was planned long before the recent forum descent into chaos - which has nothing to do with the move to the new forum. This current forum will be closed, but remain online as an archive. Any favorite threads can be moved to PA2, but most will stay here. Just send a PM to Gareth or GaiaLove if you want a thread moved. 99.9% of the people - those in a constructive frame of mind (vs destructive) - will be invited to the new version of the forum. If you would like to hurry up and be invited, I know this sounds really strange, send me a PM with the email address you want to use and that will speed up your invite. Plus I'll add: 1) A new version of vBulletin became available, version 4.0, and piqued the interest of the admins. 2) They started playing around with it and noted the forum skins, (colors) of Avalon Electric and Minty used here would not work with 4.0. So they worked to pick two similar theme skins for those who like the light background, and those who like the dark background. 3) Bill started showing up and noticed the mods spending a whole lot of time talking about just a few members and what actions to take - if any. He began to share more about his original vision for the forum why couldn't the mods be talking about being an inspiration to the forum members rather than acting like police. ( All my own choice of words as I don't remember his exact words.) And he talked about rolling out a new refined vision for Avalon with a new look. Bill also talked about developing the orphaned site http://projectavalon.net. So 1 + 2 + 3 = Avalon 2.0. 4) A poll was taken of the mod team and we decided by a vast majority vote to just get a fresh start with PA2. Leave PA1 as a closed archive. We will close PA1 in a month or two. And that 's my story, my perspective of where PA2 originated. The guidelines are the same basic common forum guidelines that were developed 20 years ago - there are very few limits on free speech - as long as you can do it respectfully without flinging insults, flaming, name-calling, etc. You can make critical posts, just keep it in balance with constructive, edifying posts. Last edited by Karen; 03-24-2010 at 07:30 AM. |
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03-24-2010, 10:47 AM | #14 | |
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Something else that amazes me. We all have eyes to see but some choose to look at something else. Thuban did not divide the community .... mismanagement and paranoid arrogance did. Karen you gosta keep em peeled. |
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03-24-2010, 11:48 AM | #15 | |
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As for keeping posts "in balance, with constructive edifying posts", there are several people already in PA2 who are mainly negative and dismissive of other people's ideas. One of them has rubbished at least 5 different threads covering all kinds of things that most people here would consider normal and in one thread he even suggested he may not belong on that forum. But he's still there. I don't understand why some people complain about these forums being too strict. As far as I can see PA1 allowed people to violate the guidelines pretty much at will until eventually things got out of hand and the mods had to do something about it. Now I see the same thing starting at PA2 also. Maybe it's just me. Sorry for being negative but I'm trying to help create a forum that will be beneficial to us all. Why can't there be a rule that says anyone can report a violation to the mods and they will be given a reply as to the action the mods will take? At the moment I would feel guilty about "snitching" but on the other hand I don't like seeing perfectly good threads being stopped by negative posts and I don't want to get into a flame war with the negative posters. |
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03-24-2010, 01:51 PM | #16 | |
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ditto ortho ... this is what i have been feeling ever since the birth of PA2 was announced ... with rapid haste ... what were we getting too close too .... hmm ... thuban i feel ... the drama evoked from that thread ... a distraction ... i feel ... whatever was becoming potentially 'too hot to handle' ... stemmed beyond ... so ... the gap ... between here and there ... PA and PA2 ... within that gap ... i feel a void ... a loss ... of something that was once BEcoming ... flourishing ... but like a beautiful rose ... had to be snipped from its growth ... just as it was blooming ... in its prime ... snip snip ... a seed ... for yet another flower ... planted ... not a rose this time ... but a similar flower ... with promises of similar beauty ... as it grows ... know what i think? know what i feel? i feel the new flower ... will be allowed to grow ... but will it ... ever be 'permitted' ... to bloom ... to maturity ... or ... will that flower too ... be 'too hot to handle' ... its truth ... too beautiful to actually be exposed ... this saddens me tremendously ... not so much the obvious loss of our original avalon ... the surface of that ... but the loss ... of something much deeper than that ... i have swam these oceans for such a long time ... not just this life experience ... but oh so many others ... the ocean waters ... they never change ... they are ... what has been ... what is and what can BE ... they are ... potentiality ... no definition of past ... present and future ... in our ocean waters ... all is one ... and i have come across the stench of rottenn fish ... many times before ... not 'rotting' fish ... for they have not died ... their agendas though ... are what smell terribly so ... history ... repeating itself ... once again ... once again ... re-direction ... ask yourselves ... why ... this gap ... transition from here to there ... the void and the loss of something very significant i feel ... is what is making it difficult for me ... to pack my bags ... and leave ... as i know i have done ... compliantly ... at times reluctantly ... many times prior ... in many lives ... within many scenarios ... but ... what is different now ... is that i am feeling it ... for what it is ... once again ... re-direction ... from truth ... and you can think ... that this turtle ... has travelled in the salt waters much too long for its own good ... and that is fine ... i am elated by these times now ... the energy of this shift ... shift to something new that i feel must and will come to BE ... and yet i am saddened ... to smell that fishy smell once again ... having said that ... i feel it to be less and less pungent ... in this ocean ... the shift to the new i feel is definately in process ... this is good ... most beneficial ... damn ... i just feel so sad of what has happened here ... beneath the surface ... namaste ... |
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03-21-2010, 01:20 PM | #18 |
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03-21-2010, 01:29 PM | #20 |
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Dr. David Hawkins There is too much "You are either with me or against me" mentality in this world in general. I just wish everyone could just get along. The ego won't let many do this. Anyone who has studied sociology will know that there are different personality traits out there in the world going from Dominant downwards to being just a follower. Certain personalities do not work well together. |
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03-21-2010, 05:01 PM | #22 |
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the division of avalon has nothing to do with humanity and it's ability to transcend, ascend whatever. I look at this drama as a play... Entertainment etc. We are human therefore display human behaviors like competition and drives to succeed. One just needs to keep one foot in both worlds per say. Enjoy the experience, learn from the avalon drama. I sure hope most don't look at avalon and it's leaders as humans hope.
take it for what it is...a wonderful information freeway. Last edited by sammytray; 03-21-2010 at 05:16 PM. |
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03-21-2010, 05:26 PM | #24 |
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The site going down really only means as much as you make it.
I'm still going to network with you fine folks. Like I keep saying in all these threads my contact info is in my profile. the people are still people and they're still HERE regardless of what forum they type their words on. |
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