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Old 10-03-2008, 10:46 PM   #101
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Astraeliais is very good with the meditation, sacre ceremonies. We'll connect our energies at the sacre site, so stay tuned to be energized.

Olam, hope the weather holds out. Should be good. I think the latest news on the bank freeze s that it is a hoax.

/Wayne
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Old 10-05-2008, 06:05 AM   #102
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THE AVALON FAMILY TREE
from Astraelia

May we all share in the joy
of the birth of the family of Avalon
Where like minded seekers of Truth
Can meet in the circle of brotherhood.

Like a first spark of fire in the bush
This fire will not stop growing
And soon will light the night
Like the dawn of a new day.

We were alone facing the unknown,
We are not alone anymore, we are a family,
And this can make a great difference.

It is the same with our beloved Celestrial brothers and sisters,
We are not alone anymore
Facing the unknow.
Now we know we are family
And this makes also a great difference.

It is true that all this is expanding the Horizon
of our sense of reality in an exponential way.
We are all learning on the way
to these new dimensions we are all discovering.

All we can do is to be honest truth seekers
and be faitfull to the Truth
wherever it's blinding Light leads.
And have faith in the great family tree
we all make together.

May we all send our eternal gratitude
to our noble friends and Spiritual Elders the Celestrials
for Lighting the way as we now await
to be reunited in their blessed arms.

Together we are a mountain of Light

It is time to break the dark spell
That made us believe we were
But the shadow of the montain
Cast on the ground

Together we are a mountain of Light


May the Great Spirit Light shine in our hearts.

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Old 10-07-2008, 05:34 PM   #103
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so everyone is ready for tomorrow. things are happening very fast, see just today we lost the Formula 1 Grand-Prix in Montreal.
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Old 10-08-2008, 02:13 AM   #104
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hello all

I'm in Brazil for a month contacting friends and inviting them to this forum, so once again I won't be with u tomorrow, snif.
I just saw this video of Naomi Wolf oct 4th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI

and the half past human web bot in rense today

http://www.youtube.com/results?uploa...ch_query=rense

very important

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Old 10-08-2008, 02:20 AM   #105
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well; i got escorted up to The Serpent Mounds burial site
by 3 sets of 4 eagles, and, 1 lone eagle
(13 eagles) then, when going to The Petroglyphs, another 9 eagles showed up, in 3 sets of 3
and, then, when coming back down to the city,
another 1 eagle escorted us out to the highway,
and, we saw, 3 sets of 3, and, 1 more eagle
for a total of 33 eagles. (which was amazing)
going up; we also saw 5 swallows;
and, a big black dot of 10,000 swallows;
that split in 2, and, in 2, and, in 2 another
to where we saw 5 solo + 6 groups = 11
and, then, the 6 groups exploded like fireworks
then, i saw a field with 13 cows,
and, groups of 4 huge ravens, appeared,
over and over again...i also had one eagle drop a feather,
and, also one raven drop a feather, and, a friend gave me a macaw(?) feather -- it was quite interesting--
what occured ... how was the event in PQ ?
and, just prior to entering the park,
we saw 3 deer
love/susan
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Old 10-08-2008, 03:53 AM   #106
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You certainly got a lot of nature supporting you. Sounds like a very interesting trip; it must have been very invirgorating. That's the way I feel when I spend time with nature.

Our event got postponed because of the weather, so will have to wait and see... you seem to get a lot of birds to follow you. Maybe the the helicopter would have taken off if you were here.
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Old 10-08-2008, 04:32 AM   #107
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Originally Posted by Fred View Post
Meeting !!!


Salut tout le monde!
Hi everybody!

Ok 2 news

- First

Sadly I have been really busy this week, school/exam/work/girlfriend etc...
I havent found the time to do a reservation for the next meeting for this week

-Second

I have found a local (semi private) up too 50 persons capacity, smoke allowed and also beer:P (also it's near PIX IX metro station)

I havent got all the information, but maybe we will have to pay a little fee to rent the room (MAX 5$ each) or if we manage to buy some beer we may have the room free . Ill give/get more info about that.

Next meeting should/will be on Wenesday October 8th at 19:00

From all the messages that i have received we should be around 20+ ppl
even ppl from quebec will come to see us

Cant wait to see you all guys

See you soon

Fred



Keep up the good work, try to awake ppl

quote as a reminder
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Old 10-08-2008, 03:08 PM   #108
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hi thx for the reminder but i had some in real life problems
(car, economy chrisis, and school is killing me, and the local)

All right, im realy sry but there will not be any meeting this week
(organised by me)

What if we look for next week instead?

Ill give some news on the forum again.

(and if you read closely my previous post said should/will )

I know those reunion are really important if we wanna build a self suffisant community.I think there is alot to do on our own.

Education is most important. they are many Ebooks or just books talking about, plants, agriculture, meditation, and more. More we know seperatly more we will be stronger as a community.

Im still working on the local, because the other is not fully private.
(bamboo is your house still avalable?)

Anyone has an idea? (thx for the wifi post btw)

All right

Plz all take care.

Fred
(still sry for the meeting)
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Old 10-08-2008, 06:00 PM   #109
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Hi all,

These face to face mtgs should not be meant as times to get work done. If we only did work when we meet, it would be too slow. The type of work needs to be identified, this we can do at a meeting or prepared for a mtg. Volunteers then need to come forward to form a team to work on it. Then the regular mtgs can be used to syn up, give status/ progress of the work, socialise a bit. To accomplish any work requires a certain amount of discipline, especially a volunteer organisation.

I myself would be interested in a group to look into the ZPE area. There's a lot of web data, but the challenge is to duplicated it for ourselves. Being able to have a fueless source of energy for power generation would really change the prospect of surviving any scenario.

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Old 10-08-2008, 09:55 PM   #110
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Fred

My house is available but only when I'll be back from Brazil, November 4th.

As soon as I come back I'll contact you either via PM in this forum or directly by phone. Which do u prefer?

I can accommodate 10 people very comfortably or 20 a bit less, meaning some would have to sit on cushions or chairs instead of sofas. 25 would be the very maximum to be reasonably at ease.

Great! I'll be looking forward to come back into the freezing rain just for the pleasure of meeting u guys.

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Old 10-08-2008, 10:15 PM   #111
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By the way, yes you may smoke in my house as long as it doesn't bother any of the participants present. But do not worry, I do have a area adjacent to the living room where it will be possible without bothering the non smokers and still watch what may be going on.

Hope this will calm some of you, I know it would calm me if it weren't my house.

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Old 10-09-2008, 02:27 PM   #112
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Thanks for the offer mate I would love to be there in Gaspé or New-brunswick area.
By the way something of interrest is that New-bruswick gouvernment seems to be putting out good vibes by inviting people there to become self sufficient and are exploring ways to achieve it.
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:24 AM   #113
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Hi guys,

I'm from Montreal too. Not originaly though. I moved here 2 weeks ago to be closer to my son.

I too started to work on some plan. I've started to collect douments from the internet (surival guide military style, how to dry food, how to make jerky beef, etc.).

I've also begun to write a document mainly intended for my family. I've been reading that paranormal stuff for well over 20 years now. So I'm quite familiar with all the theories going around. The document I'm writing is intended for those who did not read all that I've read. I guess you could call it "The end of times for dummies!"

I do not know how long we have left. Glad to see I'm not alone in Montreal.


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Old 10-14-2008, 06:41 PM   #114
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This text has been written as an overall introduction to the existence of Celestrial civilisations, intended for initiating newcomers in the field, with an emphasis on the spiritual aspect of the phenomenon. I give permission to use it for this purpose. (You are welcomed to further it to your friends list)

by Astraelia
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THE CELESTRIALS ARE HERE.

INTRODUCTION TO SPIRITUALLY ADVANCED
EXTRATERRESTRIAL CIVILISATIONS:


We are not alone in this Universe, we never were and we never will be.
This is the new Paradigm !

SOME VERY GOOD NEWS !
I have some really good news to share with you. And we are in need of good news in our time. This very good news is that we are not alone anymore in this Universe. There is help being offered to us to solve the energy and ecological problems our beautifull planet is facing. But, this help doesn’t come from here, it comes from many different human extraterrestrial civilisations that have come to visit our planet since the 1945 era, in hope of establishing open, peacefull official diplomatic contact with our Earth civilisation. They are still around at this very moment and this generous and priceless help is still being offered to us now !

But, you are being prevented to know about this.

Be ready for great discoveries. These civilisations are not only very advanced scientifically as you might expect, but also, very advanced on a spiritual level. They live in what we could call compare to us, higher spiritual dimensions of evolution, while at the same time living on one of the many thousands inhabitated planets that exist in our galaxy. These extraterrestrial civilisations have come in good faith visit us, to offer their help but also to give us a clear warning that we have mismanaged our planet resources and ecosystem to the point that we are putting the survival of mankind and of our planet itself in peril.

The Bad News, is that these Extraterrestrial Civilisations who for the immense majority are from the Light and are benevolent toward us, have been met with a total refusal of cooperation from those behind the scene global powers that covertly control our planet institutionnal network.

Another bad news is that the vast majority of the population on Earth does not even suspect the existence of this covert power mafia on Earth, that supercedes and is the real power that control behind the scene our political, economic, scientific, military & mass media institutions. It is this secret power structure that is maintaining a global blocus on all information on this subject, under the fabricated pretense of National Security, because they know it will be the end of their hidden seizure on the power centers of Earth, the day we will discover that there are great, benevolent and wise civilisations that are willing to start a brand new era of cooperative contact and exchange between earth humans and all other human civilisations that exist on other life bearing planets. This global information blocus on the very real existence of benevolent extraterrestrial civilisations has been put in place so the population is maintained in complete ignorance of these important and vital informations, and on all that have been developping in secret scientific and military joint ventures established with certains extraterrestrial races.

We can all agree that these matters can be considered as matters of great importance for humanity and for our planet. I believe we can also agree that any institution, secret or not, legal or not, that attempt to hide such important and vital opportunities from us, is creating us a very great prejudice and should be dealt with with expediency.

But how can you defend yourself against things that you don’t even suspect exist, things that are purposefully kept hidden from you ? This imposed secrecy insure that the population of Earth will have no idea that all the ecological and energy crisis we are in now, could have been completely avoided. We have had the opportunity offered to us around 1947 to freely make use of the same energy generation technology that is used all over the many extraterrestrial civilised worlds that exist. All the terrible devastation of Earth that occurred since, was purposefully perpetrated against our beloved planet by these power crased super elites that both owns the oil industries and covertly control all the major levers of political, scientific and military power. Do you begin to understand the vital importance of ending this blocus of secrecy.

By the way, do you want another real great news ? It is only because of the tireless monitoring and neutralising of our nuclear arsenal by the positive extraterrestrials, that we are still alive now. Because many attempts at launching nuclear wars on Earth have been aborted only by the Godsent intervention of the positive extraterrestrials who have on many occasions neutralise in time the electronic firing mecanism of the nuclear balistic missiles.

So are we talking about some great news !


THE END OF THE GREATEST SECRET ON EARTH !
We live in a time when every one that have a substancial understanding of what is really going on in this world behind the scene is expected to do what he can to inform others so they can have a true understanding of the facts and of what is coming toward us from here to 2012. This is my contribution,

To tell you the truth, this is not a simple task considering the complete void of information into which the general population have been artificially maintained concerning many important matters.

I can only do my best to try to simplify something that is not simple, and to try to resume matters that requires many years of dedicated study. So I will go to the essential. I only ask you to simply listen with an open mind because what I am going to say, is true, and is based on the testimony of many credible expert witnesses that had first hand knowledge of these matters during their carreer assignation to secret scientific and military ventures. It concerns matters that are of great importance for the future of humanity.


THE TRUTH ABOUT UFO’S EXISTENCE:
Most people manifest a sincere interest in the question of UFO's and believe in the common sense of the possibility of existence of extraterrestrial civilisations.

Actually, many polls have shown, that a substancial majority of the
population believe UFO are real, despite the silence and secrecy
maintained on the subject. Most like you probably don’t have any difficulty in believing that Earth humans may not be the only intelligent civilisation in this universe, and a majority believe that UFO are real and that our governments are hiding the truth about them and are mistaken in their belief that we are not able or ready to handle the truth!

But since the mass media and the scientific community are equally
silent on the subject, people have stricly no substancial information
that would unable them to develop their own informed judgment on the
subject.

In the actual situation, with the wall to wall truth embargo and
psychological warfare of ridicule strategy that is imposed to impede
any possibility of valuable information reaching the public, most
people who take their information from the mass media are left with an
absence of any cogent information, and have been maintained out of the
loop of what have been happening and developping in this domain far
from the scrutiny of the public.

Due to the global information embargo existing in the media on
anything related to this subject, most of our legitimate questions
remain for the most part unanswered.

I myself corresponded perfectly with this profile only a few years ago.
Even if I am a person of vast culture and multiple fiels of interests, I can honestly say that like everyone else I never never had been exposed to any serious substancial information on the sublect. I thought that this state of affair was due to the fact that no one actually knew anything about this subject period.


IT ALL STARTED AT ROSWELL:
Like everyone else the only thing I had vaguely heard about was the
famous 1947 Roswell case where a flying saucer supposedly had crashed, and bodies of extraterrestrials, some dead and possibly some still alive had been
found. In the newspapers of the epoch the army and the government
had indeed initially confirmed the authenticity of the event.

But, due to the obvious national security strategic importance of this paramont event, and the scientific importance of the technology that could be reverse
engineered from such an advanced interstellar craft, there followed rapidly a
**** of position of the army and the government. After having realised
the implications of an event of such magnitude, the US army classified
it as above top secret. They then developped a strategy of official
denial of this capture of an extraterrestrial vehicule and the whole
matter of UFO's where highly classified and known only to a selected
elite within the army and government, and within the circle of highly secret military operations of advanced scientfic nature. It is easy to understand that
this astonishing technological treasure could potentially push the US
army light years ahead of all other nations on Earth.

One reason why positive Celestrial civilisations are relatively discrete, is that the US military has now acquired advanced pulse beam weapons from the hightech transfer deal they signed with negative exter races, and that they now have the military capacitiy to shoot at positive Celestrial space crafts. The US military also possess high energy radars that they can lock on UFOs, and that produce perturbations in the magnetic field the UFOs use to travel, inducing them to loose control and crash, in order for the US military to access the very advanced technology of the extraterrestrials by reverse-engineering the technology recuperated from these crashed UFOs. So no wonder they are very carefull.


THE ERUDITE SIDE OF THE INTERNET:
But one day in my research on the internet, I was somehow quided to
discover some very serious web site on the subject:

www.disclosureproject.com
www.exopolitics.com
www.projectcamelot.org

What I discovered, no one on Earth suspect exist. The global
population on Earth is completely kept out of the loop of the
magnitude of what has developped in top secret ventures put in place
to study and reverse engineer this advance extraterrestrial technology.

From that day on, I knew that what I thought and everybody thought:
That no one knows anything on the subject. Is very, very far from
the truth, and I also found out why? Why we are made to believe this
and remain prisonners of this artificially imposed collective ignorance.

I could see that this was real serious stuff. And I believe every one
can see for himself the far reaching consequences, the revelation of
such reality may imply. Credible high ranking officials of the
scientific and the military that were part of secret scientific
programs dealing with UFO's and extraterrestrial civilisations from
other planets, where now reaching the age of their retreat, and where
ready to divulge what they had witness during their career while in
assignation within these secret ventures. These top ranking experts in
diverse fields were willing to make these divulgations because of the
paramount importance it represent for humanity to know that UFO's are
real and that there are advanced extraterrestrial civilisation that
are ready and willing to help humanity while at the same time
acknowledging that there are also some extraterrestrial races that are
power and control oriented just like our actual Earth elite and that
these negative one's have entered into a secret treaty to ally
themselves with our own Earth power elite institutionnal mafia in order to maintain and amplify this illigitimate secret seizure of power over our planet's destiny.

There is really a lot that has been going on in this field behind the convenient veil of secrecy. These expert witnesses that are courageous enough to talk, also want to see an end to the actual policy of secrecy that is maintained, because they are of the opinion that there are things of such importance for the whole future of humanity that we are not being told about that it far outweights all the other considerations that are used to justify the
truth embargo that is applied at the moment on this paramount subject.

Since this whole subject have been willfully treated with denial and
secrecy by the media and the elite scientific circles of our societies,
most do not dare discuss the subject ever, fearing understandably the stigmate of official ridicule that is used as a psychological deterrent strategy to hinder any attempt of divulgation.

Yet this is a very serious and certainly legitimate matter of concern
for all of us. After only a few hundred years of technical evolution,
we can all see that we are ourselves already interplanetary
travellers. What would it then be, for other intelligent civilisations
that might have had hundreds of thousand if not millions of years of
advanced technical and spiritual evolution?

It is not to difficult to foresee the magnitude of the historic implications of the public revelation of the existence of advanced extraterrestrial civilisation
currently orbiting and visiting our planet with a relative discretion

That is why, that behind the fabricated silence of official denial,
and the psychological war of reprobation and ridicule, you better
believe that all top levels insiders in the armed forces of our world
take the reality of extraterrestrial presence very, very seriously. It
is actually THE number one top secret military priority in all
countries, while at the same time a subterfuge of official denial and
secrecy is maintained as an official public policy.


THE GREAT MIRACLE CALLED THE INTERNET :
But for the first time in the history of humanity, there is now a
means to circumvene the official institutionnal censorship on this
subject and many other serious subjects.

This great miracle is called the Internet. The internet has become an
immense encyclopedia of the vast knowledge that has been acquired on
the subject from the revelations made by numerous high ranking
officials of the scientific and military reaching the age of retreat
from their active carreer.

The very first step to turning around this informational vacuum, may
be to become aware that the information now available on the internet
provides us with an important key to solving this overall mystery.
Some very competent and well informed experts and witnesses have taken
the initiative of breaking this bound of silence on the subject by
using the communication network provided by the Internet to circumvene the global information blackout maintained by the controlled mass media.

We have now a free internet, but that may not last forever, for the very reason that it has proven to be a serious and able vehicule to educate us on all these numerous subjects that are being willfully eluded by the highly controlled outlets of the pretend mass medias.

The problem is that the average person beginning in these matters,
once they have discovered that the internet provides very serious
alternative information, will rapidly also find out that the amount of
information on the subject, is immense and quite complex. A beginner
will easely get confused and would be unable to create for himself a
practical understanding enabling him to achieve some fair conclusions
and judgment on this important subject.

May you allow me to share with you some of the understanding you would
yourself achieve if you were ready or able to invest the thousands of
hours of research and reading on this unsuspectedly vast and important
subject.

This brief introduction can only attempt to provide an essential
positive overview of the known key issues partaining to these
understandably complex issues. I will also concentrate on the
positive and spiritual aspects of the phenomenon, the highly advanced
spiritual extraterrestrial civilisations that are on the side of the
Light and are trying to help humanity in the difficult situation we have been lead into.
There are many issues concerning the negative one's, many
competent studies available on the internet cover these matters in depth.

May you be advised that the truth requires it's equivalence in courage and hope.

UFOs ARE VERY REAL:
First thing first, UFO's are very, very real. They come from very
advanced civilisations from other planets in our galaxy, or other
galaxies, who possess highly advanced technologies as is easely
conceivable based on the incredible performances of their interstellar crafts.

What is important to know, is the reason they are here, who they are,
what are their intentions and mission, and what is going to happen in
the future of humanity on this Earth. Any normally intelligent person
is able to grasp the vast implications of a possibly nearby point of
our history, where open official interaction with extraterrestrial
civilisations will have occurred, forever changing the very course of
history, life and culture on our planet through the access to
highly evolved technology and wisdom.

What is not suspected about these ambassadors of the galactic
civilisations, is that they are not only advanced technologically, but
they are also highly advanced ethically and spiritually. Before being
a scientific phenomenon of great importance, this is before all, a
subject of spiritual nature of very great importance. It's just that we
on Earth have been successfully brainwashed to oppose science and
spirituality as mutually exclusive, when this is not the case elsewhere in other
inhabited planets that are not subdued by a dissimulated manipulative elite
like it is our case here.


THE SPIRITUAL DIMENSION OF CELESTRIAL CIVILISATIONS:
And this is of a paramount importance. This hidden spiritual dimension
is one of the main reason that there is so much secrecy about them from
the part of the covert elite that controls the levers of power on our planet.

Because, if you haven't notice yet, it doesn't really seem to be the
good guys who are currently in control of the political, financial and
military institutions on Earth. But how could you really know, since
all the medias and all your available sources of informations are
silenced on all these important but well hidden matters.

Understandably, faced with this pervading global silence on this
issue, people are lead to think that there is very little reliable
information and answers available to our obvious questions arising on
the subject of extraterrestrial intelligences visiting our planet.

The truth is quite the opposite. Much is known and is to be said
indeed on this already very deep subject, revealing immensely
important new informations that will once received forever change the
notion we have of our world, our true potential and the true potential
of life. But, most important, is that we can now have a new confidence in the future, because we, the defenseless civil population of Earth, we are not alone anymore. We now know that we have powerfull allies that are sent here in this difficult mission in a spirit of service of the Creator of this Universe, offering their help and guidance in order to free humanity from the covert tyranny that have manipulated humanity into countless artificially created wars through history, and that is preparing another world war right at this very moment.

Not only much is already known about the many different extraterrestrial races,
and their respective agendas, but it has now become a field of
knowledge so substancial, that just having an overall practical grasp
of the subject has become quite a challenging endeavour. So let me
attempt to initiate you to the essence of the matter, and you can
judge for yourself if this is an important and key central issue of
our time, worth your time and consideration.


SPIRITUALLY ADVANCED CELESTRIAL CIVILISATIONS:
One of the first secret that should be clarified, is that these
civilisations are not only advanced technologically, but also
spiritually, and that the immense majority of these civilisations are
of the Light and are benevolent toward us. The scare campaings
undertaken by the negative portrayal of extraterrestrials,
consistently presented by the Hollywood film industry, is a campaing
to attempt to hide this quite important fact.

An important aspect to recognize, is that they are not only
extraterrestrial beings, but also interdimensionnal beings and so are
their crafts. They come from what we would conceive as higher
spiritual dimensions, as far as their spiritual level is involved, while at the same time being embedded into physical bodies like us. They come from planets in this universe from our galaxy and also other galaxies. Some even come from the future in an attempt to help us avoid serious problems that may occur around 2012, because they master time travel technology also, I know this seems fantastic for our very primitive earthly scientific minds, but this is true.

Many of them are humanoids very similar to us. The human form is quite common throught the numerous life bearing planets like ours. ( The Pleiadians, the Andromedans, Nordic Arians, Arcturians.)

These advanced civilisations are comparable in degree of evolution and wisdom, to what we know on earth as Boudhas, Great Spiritual Teachers. Try to imagine a whole civilisation composed of beings sharing this degree of evolution, for hundreds of thousands or millions of years! In fact, it may very well be that some of the great spiritual figures that have appeared on earth in the past may have simply be such extraterrestrials that had accepted to come to assist earth in it's spiritual evolution. It is possible for the very reason that they are civilisations that have achieved this level of spiritual evolution, and that they have themselves alluded to this being true. Great beings like that is the norm in their societies, as it is the exception in ours. We will all eventually evolve to this level of mastery and spirituality if we are ever able to free ourself from the occult boundage imposed by our destructive power elite.

OUR EMERGENCE TO GALACTIC CITISENSHIP:
Likewise on a planetary scale of history, in the path of evolution of any planet, there comes a time when the indigenous civilisations of a planet are made aware of the reality of existence of more advanced civilisations from other planets. After an initial cultural chock that is predictable, comes a new era of fruitfull exchanges. We are part of an extended family that has been purposefully hidden from us all throught our history and culture until now. This is our inheritance and we have a right to know about it.

We are not alone in this Universe, we never were and we never will be.
This is the new Paradigm that will be revealed to everyone around 2012 !


ANGELS OR SPIRITUALLY ADVANCED EXTRATERRESTRIALS:
We have had in the far past of our history, before the actual cycle
of civilisation our official hystory present us, a fair number of occurences
of interactions with these high spiritual beings. But, the rare times
that these occurences have been mentioned in our historical or
religious traditions, their existence was always been refered to us
throught a substancially correct, but very incomplete and therefore
somehow misleading notion, the notion of Angels.

This notion of Angels acting as spiritual gardians sent by the Creator
to assist, inspire and guide us, have always find a previleged place
in our heart, even if few of us have ever seen one themselves.
Angels were described as Heavenly Light Beings of a great
spiritual might and wisdom, who come from higher celestial spheres,
and that were able to communicate with humans by appearing to us in
what is often described in paintings as a radiant halo of spiritual
light and power. Those outworldly beings refered to as angels, are,
so we are told non-physical beings, they come from higher spiritual
dimensions, are of a purely spiritual nature and have no physical
bodies like us and don't need any vehicules to come in our
dimensions, they just fly in with what is shown in paintings to be
wings. This is what we are familiar with, and is about all we know of
the subject.

Again, that may very well describe acurately Angels and all this may
perfectly be true. But what is new and important for us and
our future, is that these notions, qualities and potentialities, also
happen to describe with bewildering similarity the essence of what
extraterrestrial beings coming here in UFO's are, and what their role
and purpose is toward humanity !


UFO’S COME FROM HIGHER SPIRITUAL DIMENSIONS:
What is nevertheless quite new in this old story, is that these
spiritual beings we are told are Angels, might also actually be
endowed of physicality like us even if their physicality might be at
a higher vibrationnal frequency level. They are technically able to adjust
and manifest on our Earth vibrational frequency and dimension that we call
physicality. Instead of being able to just fly in like our religious fairy tales would have us believe, they actually require insterstellar and interdimensional vehicules that we know of and refer to as being UFO's.

The great secret of UFO's is that there is a major spiritual dimension
to it. The great secret about extraterrestrial advanced civilisations,
is that the purpose of their presence and of their role toward us is
essentially the one we have attributed to what we have been teached to
call and believe to be Angels.

The ancient story that is related in all ancient cultures about a great war that happened between Angels of the Light and Angels of the Darkness, also exist in the ancient hystory of all Extraterrestrial races.

Except that the extraterrestrials know something about this story that we don’t ! Because they have lived it first hand and they were the actual actors of this story. This ancient war that have been turn into a angel fairy tale in our own Earth record, was a war between extraterrestrial forces on the side of the Light against a very negative predatory intruder extraterrestrial civilisation in our Universe. And this war was fought using UFO’s and advanced pulse beam weapons, it was not fought using swords and wings to fly around.

So you see that all these elements add up to a lot more than mere resemblances or coincidences. Whether by ignorance or manipulation, our ancestors have been lead to believe Angels where spiritual only beings. But we are now entering a time where the truth is becoming apparent and clear because we have access to serious and well documented alternative sources of information available on the erudite side of the Internet.

So when there may very well be stricly spiritual angels that have
interacted with humanity throught history, it is also true, that real
physical extraterrestrial beings coming from other planets, have
interacted with humanity in the far past, but have been always
purposefully been assimilated or made believe to be angels of a non
physical nature. This assimilation has been easy to establish and
maintain, because they both displayed altogether similar qualities of
being Light bearers, highly spiritual, endowed with great wisdom and
have accepted to play a role of custodial gardians of humanity,
bestowed to them by the Prime Creator.

So, the Creator in his great bountifull generosity and mercy, have
given us not only the gracefull and blessed protection of spiritual
only angels, but also, that of highly evolved ethical spiritual beings
that possess full physicality like us, and that unlike their purely
spiritual conterparts, are technically equipped to manifest and
intervene on the same frequency level as our third dimension physical
universe.

You can all see easely by yourself, what a great difference these
qualifications makes.

Some like spiritual only angels can intervene only in wishes, and can only
wish they could intervene.

But others, as in the case of these technologically and
spiritually advanced Celestrial civilisations, can actually materialise at
will in our own dimensionnal frequency and intervene with great
military might if so asked by the Prime Creator that they serve out of
pure love for him and all his creation.

It seems obvious that many in our so called governing institutions,
seem to wish that these positive exter civilisations did not come mingle
in the affairs of Earth, because they know they have the power and full
capability to intervene a lot more than just in wishes.

A NEW CIVILISATION ON EARTH:
There is a new civilisation arising now on Earth. Hundreds of millions of people around the world who knows what is going on behind the fabricated surface of the mass media and politically correct official censorship, because they are taking their source of information from very serious studies and documentation available on very serious sites that are now present on the internet. This is the real reason they want to take control and censor the internet. Because the truth is all up there available for free.

There is a new civilisation of those who know and understand the truth, and don’t believe anymore in the fairy tales our manipulated religions and mass medias have used to dumb us down.

That is the situation for NOW, but it is rapidly changing, and wether
you are ready or not, great things are in incubation, that will
forever change the actual paradigm of isolation of earth humanity from
knowing the truth about the existence of friendly advanced
extraterrestrial civilisations from other inhabited planetary systems.

We have been and are currently being manipulated into not knowing the
true reality and structure of the make up of our Universe and the
great highly evolved spiritual civilisations that inhabit it.

These are highly ethical civilisations, and their technology is not
only very advance, it is also holistic, respectfull and one with the
spiritual dimension of life. Everything in their civilisation is in
line with the spirit of the Prime Creator. They are the bearers of
it's Light and the ambassadors of it's presence.
They are part of the Great Brotherhood of Light
and the Spiritual Hierachy.

And this is what is being hidden from all of us. This is the paramount
importance and substance of what is being hidden from us.
This is the hope that is being hidden from us!

Because some of them have been given gardianship duties concerning the
evolution of our emerging Earth civilisation, these Celestrial beings know
well our hidden ancient history, and the history of the manipulation
of our civilisation by the elite that have attained seizure of
the levers of governance of our social institutions.

We are now approaching the non-return point where Earth civilisation
will openly discover the nature and existence of extraterrestrial
ethical civilisations.

THE MISSING LINK IN OUR HISTORY IS EXTRATERRESTRIAL:
But this is not all we will discover. We will eventually discover that they are
also our family. They are our cosmic and genetic ancestors, the archaic genetic fathers of the different races existing on Earth.

Contrarely to the evolution theory of man descending directly from the ape we have been made to believe, the missing link in our evolution that we have always looked for in our planet, this missing link is not to be found here, but is
extraterrestrial in origin. Humanking descend from an hybrid genetic
encounter between early earth man and about 21 different advanced
extraterrestrial races that have come here in a far past of our
history that has been completely erased from all our recordings.
This is why there is still today 21 different racial types on Earth.

So we are all from the stars, nobody is really strictly speaking from
here. We are ourselves partly extraterrestrials, and extraterrestrials
are partly us. We are brothers. We are family. We are all One !

We will also eventually discover that these elder brothers and
fathers of humanity are also on a spiritual level, our protectors and
have been given by the spiritual hierarchy, a role of Watchers of
earth civilisation evolution. They are the Angels we have believe existed and assumed this very role. It is they who deserve our gratefullness for this selfless mission they have accepted.

All through our history, this extraterrestrial reality has always been
purposefully hidden and purposefully presented as spiritual only
realities and beings. There has been many time periods in the far
past, where exter civilisations were predominantly present in the
affairs of our world. Some of these periods goes as far back as 100 of
million years ago, others around 450.000 years ago,and more recently
before the great flood that happened around 20,000 years ago. Actually
the ancient civilisations we know as Atlantis and Lemuria were part of an
extraterrestrial colonisation era in our planet history, before humanity existed. Many major archeological discoveries have been made that prooves beyond doubt the existence of this pre homo-sapiens extraterrestrial civilisation that existed before the actual cycle of civilisation proposed by official history, but these discoveries are kept under great secrecy, or destroyed on purpose, so the population of Earth never enlighten to the extraterrestrial dimension existing in the tread of Earth ancient history.



THE RETURN OF THE CELESTRIALS TO EARTH:

The return of interest into the affairs of Earth from the part of
positive extraterrestrial civilisations is attribuable to a very specific
occurence: the first explosions of nuclear weapons on this planet
around 1945. Nuclear weapons are a totally forbidden technology all over this
universe, because of their obvious long term extreme ecological
danger, but also because of other serious perturbations they create into the
other dimensions of the universe structure, including the space-time continuum that UFOs use to come here in the vincinity of Earth. In other words, this problem of nuclear weapons has now become more than our problem. it has become also their problem. So THEY
have decide to intervene and let us know their very profond disagreement and concern upon this matter.

There are numerous secret military reports of extraterrestrial crafts that have demonstrated their technical capacity to neutralise the electronic launching equipment of nuclear balistic missiles. Hundreds of UFOs have been sighted hovering over missile bases, monitoring and demonstrating their presence and letting our military know that they can disable the electronic firing mecanism of the missiles. UFOs have even changed the secret codes used for firing these missiles, so that they cannot be launched. There have been in the last 50 years, more than one occasion where an actual nuclear war have been stop only by the intervention of UFOs. You understand that these military interventions from our extraterrestrial brothers clearly state on which side they are, who they are, and what is their misssion.

Because of the very negative dynamic our emerging planet is
generating, under the hegemony of the dark forces that are currently
covertly ruling our societies, Earth has now been put in a global
quarrantine, put under isolated surveillance by a military blocus because of
the potential danger we represent for the future to the other galactic
civilisations, who understand that a civilisation like ours who
doesn't know it is being manipulated by powerfull dark forces, can
eventually become a treath to all the other advanced civilisations
because they see we are approaching the time where we will have the
technical capacity to access interstellar travel and that we may
export our extremely dangerous nuclear arsenal and our dangerously
primitive and irresponsible aggressive behavior that has been
programmed into us by the Dark Side manipulators of our very primitive so called modern civilisation.

The nuclear bomb military capacities we have represent
an extremely dangerous equation for all these advanced civilisations,
who like our Native American Indians, consider themselves as gardians
and keepers of the sacred gift of Nature the Prime Creator has
entrusted into all of us.


THERE IS NOT A CONSPIRATION OF SILENCE, THERE IS TWO:
Another big problem with entering the field of extraterrestrial civilisations,
Is that it is close to impossible to reveal any substancial truth about
the extraterrestrial reality without having to deal with another
hidden truth that is also at the center of all this. The existence of a
paramount manipulation that exist here on earth from the part of a mafia
type secret Zionist network that does not at all have the best interest of
humanity at heart. This manipulative Earth elite that is often refered to as the Illuminati secret society, the Free Masons, The New World Order, is actually a very ancient order, but it is now reaching a critical stage in their plan of global infiltration and takeover of world governance institutions.

This manipulative Elite has infiltrated and corrupted from the inside, all our key political institutions and communication networks. Through history, they have cleverly manipulated the inner content of all the great institutionnal religions, achieved censorship over the content of education in key domains like history, ancient pre-homo sapiens archeology, electromagnetic science, free energy generation devices. This stealth manipulation strategy has successfully implanted within our very belief system the seeds of their hidden plan of domination over us and over our minds. So it takes quite an amount of courage, maturity and intellectual stamina to deal with all these deep issues, this is no kid stuff. It shatters all existing paradigms on which our concept of society is based.


THE WAY THE SECRET MANIPULATION OPERATES:
Let me explain in a few words the way this secret manipulation operates. There is a secretive network consisting of a series of interlocked secret societies that acts as incubators of nominees, persons who will eventually be named to important posts in our society. These secret or semi secret organisations use their leverage to position it’s agents in all key upper level decisionnal position of the pyramidal structure of our society. By controlling the upper echelon of the many pyramidal structures that our society is made off, with a relatively small number of individuals, this conspiration is able to achieve a systemic overall ascendancy over all the fields of development of our societies, steering events and decisions in the direction their World Dominion takeover plan requires, in a manner that is independent and in complete opposition to the legitimate needs of the population.

The inner core of this manipulation of our societal institutions, is a century old cartel of international bankers who actually own and control all the central banks in all countries, like for instance the Federal Reserve of the USA, while at the same time maintaining the false belief that these central banks are independent and owned by the diverse respective countries they are in. They thereby possess the power of issuance of the money supply that they than lent back to the government with interests added to it. By secretly controlling both the flow of money supply and the interest rate, they have the ability to manufacture with scientific precision all the great financial crash we have known in history, including the one that is happening at this very moment, or the great inflationnary crisis that many countries have been subjected to. In all these crashes, since they always have full knowledge of what will be their next move, they are able to gain immense fortunes that are channeled to their banking network while the rest of the world painfully looses all their fortune. This is the greatest fraud of all times. But this is only the beginning of the story.

Through secret services agencies of which they control some black operation factions, they have the latitude to completely engineer behind the scenes fabricated false attacks like 9/11. Using these false attack to blame an innocent party, they bully their way ahead by using this manufactured pretext to declare a war, while at the same time using this war to take over important oil fiels or natural resources that will be captured in the process. By blackmailing politicians by treats of stopping the flow of their electoral financing, they are in position to buy the politicians of both parties into supporting legislations that provoque these totally artificial wars like the Irak war. Through their ownership of all the major mass media outlets they have total control of the mind of the populace who is never exposed to any of the behind the scene workings of this conspiration to implement this contrived war scam. The ensuing war declaration then consequently force the government to take huge loans in the private internationnal banks of this international war mafia. These loans are issued at unending long term compounded interest rates to finance these wars. Through their ownership of the major armement industries, they make multi billions profits at every war they manufacture. And to end the scam, throught their ownership of the major construction companies, they make an other round of faraminous profit by securing for themselves the reconstruction contracts to rebuild at great expenses the destruction they have created with total impunity. The hundred of millions of individuals killed in these money grab wars are just irrelevant collateral dammages to them. These are the people who truly rules our world. We are ruled by a Zionist secret mafia of serial genocide perpetrators.

UFO FALSE ATTACK OPERATION PLANS:
Be warned that there is a secret plan to proceed with an artificially fabricated false UFO attack. This covert military operation would simulate an attack using ultra secret Earth built magnetic levitation vehicules very similar to the real extraterrestrial ones. The objective of this falsified UFO attack is to terrorise the Earth population in making them believe that all extraterrestrials are our ennemies, when the truth is that it is the Zionist secret Cabal that is actually behind these false attacks, and that they are hiding the fact that it is they, the Zionist secret Cabal that is the major number one ennemy of Earth humanity, and that it is this dark Cabal that have treasonously sold out our planet to created an alliance with the few negative extraterrestrial races that exist amongst the thousands of positive one. As the saying goes, with friends like that, nobody need ennemies. What else would you expect from an old established war profiteering mafia.

This scenario is essentially similar to the way the Zionist secret cabal have successfully orchestrated 9/11 that was a covert secret military operation where the 2 World Trade Center Towers and tower 7 were demolished by pre-positioned industrial demolition hightech explosives, put into place by the Jewish secret service the Mossad, and the secret intelligence service of the US military. The Pentagon was hit not by a civil plane but by a US military missile, all in order to create an artificial fabricated justification to start another major war. All the major wars, financial crisis and pseudo-revolutions in our Earth history since thousands of years have been artificially created and staged managed in such manner by these same behind the scene manipulators.

This intended man made false UFO attack operation would simulate an attack from extraterrestrial UFO's using Earth-built magnetic levitation vehicules and pulse beam weapons technology acquired by the extraterrestrial technology transfer agreement the Cabal has made with the 3 negative exter races. The objective is to confuse humanity and induce us into error, so humanity does not discover that the immense majority of extraterrestrial races are benevolent and friendly towards us, and that they are coming here amongst other reasons, to protect us against the dark plans of this corrupt Zionist elite mafia. In front of this huge military-media-industrial cartel, we as civilians are totally defenseless. The Cabal will than use this fabricated false extraterrestrial attack perpetrated by their own earthly secret service, to scare humanity into accepting their New World Order military dictature under the pretext that this new global world treath requires a new Global World Governement response military capacity. This is serious stuff my friends.


OPEN DISCLOSURE PLANS BY THE POSITIVE CELESTRIALS:
Know that if Celestrial civilisations were hostile to us, they could have invades us very easely a long time ago. All the contrary, since 60 years they have proceeded very progressively to acclimate us peacefully to their presence, prooving that their intentions are benevolent and that they have our best interest at heart. This is what scares the hell out of the secret government Cabal, that we now have FRIENDS, powerfull friends that are on the side of the population of Earth.

It does not mean that these positive Celestrial civilisations will automatically come to our defense if the Cabal goes into full mode of implementation of their New World Order. They may come if WE ask for their help, and if enough of us ask for their help ! As they are totally telepathic races, your inner soul decision as to this effect will clearly be perceived by them. And this is what they are really waiting for.

The best alternative there is at the moment, is that the Celestrials, the positive spiritually advanced extraterrestrials, create and take the initiative of the momentum by revealing themselves first, in a progressive massive peacefull worldwide demonstration of their presence and existence. The Celestrials from different human inhabited planets are regrouped in a Galactic Federation that acts as the main supervising organisation of the Celestrial races that have accepted to come here and be part of the large Armada that is currently surveilling the developments that are occuring on Earth. They are very well aware of the existence and the agenda of the secret power mafia that is currently occupying and manipulating all the top levels of the institutionnal pyramid that control our society.


A NON-INTERVENTION CODE INTO PRIMITIVE PLANETS LIKE OURS:
But, these positive Celestrials will go into full implementation mode of this open revelation strategy, only as a last resort, because they have to respect a non-intervention code into the affairs of primitive planets like ours, where due to the global disinformation we are subjected to, most of the population have not yet reach the level of conciousness necessary to accept the very real existence of highly advanced spiritual extraterrestrial races.

But, there is an exception to this code of non-intervention that may aloud the Celestrials to reveal themselves and intervene constructively in our favor. They are aloud to intervene and reveal themselves if enough people on Earth sincerely ask for their help and sincerely wish that they reveal themselves to us in full light.


A CHAIN OF TRUTH:
You may see now why it is important that the maximum possible of humans of good will, become concious of the truth. You see now why your very own conciousness, is important and that you are yourself, every one of you, an important contributor in this mega evolution we are all living together. All the hundreds of millions of humans of good will, that are now fully aware of the Celestrials existence, and understand the importance of all this, they where just like you just a few years ago, before they where informed of the truth by someone that had himself been informed of the truth.

You see, it is a chain of truth that brings the spark of Light in the dark night of lies we are living in. You can recognise the truth in the aspect that the truth always transforms you. Remember also, only the truth can set us free.


A PARADIGM SHIFT IN THE MAKING:
A few centuries ago, on our planet, there has been a similar paradigm shift , when the official institutions on our planet finally openly accepted the reality that our planet is not flat and is not the center of the world.

An even greater paradigm shift is in preparation now, about the open acceptance by our institutions of the existence of extraterrestrial civilisations. This has happened on many planets like ours before, this is now our turn. It is a momentous event in the life of a planet, this is the greatest days of our planet where we will discover our full inheritance the Creator has blessed us with, when we will be initiated into the full extent of our extended family and kindred.

Likewise as the scientific postulate of Galile that the Earth is round and turns around the sun, it will soon be simple and obvious common sense to accept the reality that we are far from being alone in this Universe.


THE FIRST STEPS TO FULL DISCLOSURE ARE ALREADY TAKEN:
This is why you have seen recently all around the world, one after the other, many governments who revealed and opened to the public all their UFO investigation files that were kept secret since 60 years. This is a progressive acclimatation step that is preparing an eventual full scale official disclosure of the extraterrestrial existence.

At the ONU headquarters, there has recently been a series of secret meetings of high ranking civil and military representatives of many countries, that have been discussing the possible scenarios of open divulgation of the truth about the existence of extraterrestrial civilisations now engaging us for a new Era of fruitfull and civilised collaboration and exchanges.

But first we have to show ourselves worthy of this great opportunity that present itself.
And the extraterrestrial civilisation have to be convinced that we are sufficiently civilised and mature to enter into peacefull and constructive exchanges with these more advanced civilisations from other human inhabited planets.

So you see, whoever we are, whatever are our actual beliefs and level of personal evolution, we cannot anymore avoid becoming aware of the implications of the extraterrestrial presence and reality. It will be right in our face soon, one way or another. Wether we are ready or not. If we understand what is really going on based on wise and authentic sources of information like the Internet Network now provides on this subject and many others, we stand a chance for a very bright future. If we take our sources of information and directives from the corrupt and complicit mass media and politicians, humanity will be manipulated into oblivion as easely as a 2 years old child.


WE ARE NOT ALONE ANYMORE:
So you see, one of the major reason of all this secrecy on the matter of
of extraterrestrial existence and presence, is that some factions in our governance hierarchy want to hide from us the Earth population, that you and I now have FRIENDS, powerfull and wise friends.

We are not alone anymore against the axis of manipulation that is
insidiously guiding our planet into nuclear and ecological oblivion. Our Earth Global Governance cartel want to hide from us that we have friends that care for us and our future and are ready, able and willing to help us if so we desire. These friends are powerfull, scientifically, militarely and spiritually. This is what disturb so much our Earth dark elite. It is real bad news for them and their world take over secret plan of global dictature they call The New World Order.

Alone, humanity would have simply very little chance of winning and
preserving a semblance of freedom against this alliance of the negative
extraterrestrial races & the huge covert militaro-politico–industrial-media cartel that have recently successfully orchestrated the events of 9/11 and Irak war to further their world dominion through the device of artificially fabricated wars and terror.

The interest and high ethical stature of these advanced
extraterrestrial civilisations who for the vast majority of them are
at the service of the Light, is indeed a very great blessing for the survival
of a free humanity on this planet.

It will eventually be revealed to us that someone who claims to be family is knocking on our door, and wishing to present us their hommage and blessings, in good faith and in good will. This is the dawn of a new age on Earth, nothing less. It is the time of the return of the Light. And the Light is always preceeded by the Truth. And the Truth is always preceeded by an open mind.


In Brotherhood.

Astraelia


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LINKS TO MAJOR WEB SITES ON UFO MATTERS:


www.exopolitics.org/Study-Papers.htm

www.disclosureproject.org/

http://www.exopolitics.blogspot.com/...y-blog_08.html

www.majesticdocuments.com/

http://projectcamelot.org/


www.pleiadians.net/

www.trufax.org/general/ancientorigins.html

www.cseti.org


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Old 10-16-2008, 04:49 AM   #115
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I don't know if I can make it. I work on saturday. I'll do my best.
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Old 10-16-2008, 03:54 PM   #116
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I am in Laval and am willing (wanting) to gather some enlightened folk for a introductory rendez-vous and to discuss face-a-face future plans and get togethers. I have looked through this thread and haven't seen any plans come to fruition. depending on our numbers we may not need to rent a hall but perhaps a restaurant or bar. Lets make this happen, things are moving fast..

I have 2 others with me who would attend.
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Old 10-17-2008, 04:37 AM   #117
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Please take the initiative. I'm sure you'll get enough people interested. Suggest a time and place.

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Old 10-17-2008, 05:28 PM   #118
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How about a place like Place Cote-Vertu in St-Laurent.

Usually the food court is empty at around after 4 (mon-Fri), lots of seating and tables....or other food courts (Rockland? Galeries D'Anjou?).

East side Marios has a little room but you need to be about 15 people.
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Old 10-17-2008, 06:14 PM   #119
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yeah that would work .. guys we don't need absolutely each times private spaces when public places would do the purpose at times we can't find anything else.
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:59 PM   #120
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Hi all,

From a geopolitical point of view, we might just be ok in Quebec. But the fear that we might not tells us that something is missing in our lives either way: spirituality in the community.

Quebec/Montreal survival community? I'm in: as long as the primary focus is on making contact with higher beings and completing this journey our souls are in, not just waiting for chaos to happen in our neighborhood.

I will meet in Montreal wherever it's agreed upon. My first language is French.

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Old 10-18-2008, 12:36 AM   #121
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somehow, I agree.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:56 PM   #122
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SECOND MEETING PROJECT- from Astraelia

Hy everybody, just a reminder, about the place for meeting no 2.

it would be optimal if it is near a metro station so not only those that have a car can come, and not to immense and complex a place like a huge shopping center that to a newcomer might be like a labyrinthe.

I would like to eventually make an invitation for a spiritual meeting at my place, wich is close to cadillac metro station. But I feel we better have a few meetings and get to know one another better before, and have a chance to discuss on various topics of concerns.

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Old 10-21-2008, 04:11 PM   #123
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Hi people

First i apologise for my limited english language knowledge, i will do my best.


I salute the initiative you taken in Montreal. Im myself a former montrealer, my mother gave me birth there and i lived in St-Michel, Montreal-north and ahuntsic area for exactly 30 years, then i left because i had to.

Today i live in Temiscouata and my deep feeling tells me that is a safe place for the coming years. In case of the coming events worsten im already safe within my family.

I would like to know what going on with the reunions you made, a resume of what was discussed. What going next. I want to keep in touch about your progress.
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Old 10-22-2008, 02:55 AM   #124
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hi jack, we will sure do a resume of the meeting on the forum .. but first we need to make it happen. I'm pretty sure everybody are very busy these days (including myself) and a group meeting is very difficult to schedule. So I suggest that we fix a date so that at least 3 persons can meet each other , socialize, share information and help people with meditation techniques etc ...
We could build a sort of guideline that people could relay to without affecting a persons free will.

If we wait to start anything, things won't get any easier until we at least a few of us know each other.

By the way, if anybody wants me to explain more precisely what I wanted to point out, ask me in Private Message so that I can explain in French.

Love and light shall be with you!
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Old 10-23-2008, 03:42 PM   #125
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Default Re: Quebec/Montreal survival community

Hello Everyone,

I have not been posting here for a while, I was waiting for the apropriate time...
Now I will take some time and honor the energy I put here in the begining.
I feel I have a responsability to guide this thread now as I was the one who started it....
Oh how times have changed for me since the date I started this thread.

Here is the state I am in right now and where I want to go with my new freinds that I met at the first meeting and anyone else who is on the same page and wants to join....


When I first wrote this thread, I was in a state of hightened awarness of where we were at and what was coming down upon us in the futur and why we should get organized.
I have since been enlightened much furthur and now sit in a different state, much more in control and at peace with what we are faced with.
This forum is quite different than when it started, when we faced the changes of Avalon 2.0, things took a sharp turn on the path, I do not ike this new direction and have refrained to post here ever since. I guess the sucsess of Avalon is in part responsible, we are now sort of mainstream in this marginal pathway if you will and it attracts all kinds of different souls who are at different stages of enlightenment. Do not get me wrong, I in no way see them apart from me/us, its just that I am not in that energy right now. Here is a breif explanation of where Im at and what I want to do in the near futur.

We all have our pathways a bit layed out in front of us, the universe/god/source/call it what you will, provides us all with what we need exactly to advance in this chosen life. Events/people/situations are put in our path for us to pick up on them and move furthur onto the path.Some call it coincidences, I call it syncronicities. Sometimes we do not see these at all, they are right in front of our eyes but we are blind.Blinded by the 3d life we have in this matrix, somewhat controlled by our ego and lifestyle. Still, the persistance of the source gives us multiple oportunities all our lives to go back to source, go back to what we are really inside.
I have wandered for 40 years wondering what the heck I was doing here, then one day, I saw a speck of light....well now the light beam just got alot stronger, way stronger than when I first wrote this thread, even stronger than when we had our first meeting.
I know know why I am here for, where I got from, and where Im going.
I recently had multiple syncronicities and the floodgates opened up, things are going very fast now for me and I want to pass this on down to my enlightened friends. I will share with you some of my recent discoveries,hoping to inspire some of you to join me in this path. It is very important that I mention this as for sure, the radiant zone that I will participate to build will be formed with people on the same page as me. I do not want to sound like I am excluding anyone not conforming to who I am, this is NOT a religion, I am not following a guru/belief system/organization, its just the profound realization of who I am and where the divine intelligence lives.
Now I will give out some names and websites, it could seem that I am following a belief system/guru and all that, but before casting this judjement, you will have to study the material. Like I said before, everything we need to realize ourselves in our full potential right now is right there in front of us, or rather INSIDE us all. The exterior material is merely a catalyst to put in motion the absolute realization of all that we have inside of us.
OK, here we go....
I recently crossed a person on my pathway right here in Montreal that showed me how to work my interior energy, empower my crystals, modify the bad energy I had inside me, work with the universe.....if I had not done all the work I have been doing in the last 2 months, I would of dismissed this guy as a nutcase, a freak or some other adjective of that kind....but you see, with this great foundation that I have built before recognizing him on my path, he was the absolute opposite.His aquantance was for me the capstone on my recent work, the absolute confirmation of what I have learned.....everything fell into place, in every tiny little precious details. I now know where the truth lies and now, for me its just a matter of extacting all this which is inside of me.
This is why, I mentioned that this forum has changed now, I recognize all the people who have not yet found the goldmine INSIDE themselves. I recognize them as I was like that a few months ago.
You see, fear is a very powerful energy, it is addictive, it is on the same page as pleasure....fear and pleasure live together. Just as you are looking for pleasure all your life, it is harder to acheive when you are lost and so you fall back on fear, which has the same energy but easier to get a hold of. A big percentage of all posts here lately are based on fear....that is why the forum changed so much......now its all about conspiracies and fear mongering.
I can say right now that I have eradicated fear from my life......fear clouds the mind, you need a clear mind to live in the present.When you live in the present, you can face any challenge put on your path and ACT accordingly, you do not have to make choices, you take the immediate right ACTION and that is all. It is crucial to have a clear mind and live in the present for the upcoming challenges. Anyone living in a thought based life, will have a difficult time dealing with what is coming up.

"Freedom from the known", I guess is a great way to introduce Krishnamurti to whoever is not familiar with the man.
Knowledge is based on the past, anything you learn has been done in the past, when you are a slave to knowledge, you are living in the past....the thing is, of coarse you need knowledge to function on a day to day basis. You need to know how the clock works to know when to go to your corner street to catch the bus on its shedule....ect,ect......but for life based moments, facing life challenges, you have to put aside all knowledge as it is keeping you in the past!
All knowledge existing is already inside you, your heart connection to your higher self/soul/source is all you need to be able to grab any knowledge nessesary for the present task. Divine intelligence that is the source is at your disposal anytime you need it. You need to free yourself from thought based knowledge to open up your heart connection to the source, then you are timeless, you can take advantage of all you already know.....
When a human fetus grows inside the womb, the first organ to come to life is the heart....it starts beating as soon as its formed.....infused with energy coming directly from the source.It is the first pysical connection we have with our soul/higher self/source. This amazing connection is what is keeping us alive for all these years. As we grow up, rationalization takes us away from this heart connection, we loose the ability to tap into source for all we ever need and all we ever will need in this life. By going back to a heart based living which includes compassion, respect, and love for each other we get back to basics.

Love, compassion,humility,forgiveness,understanding,valo r, are all opposite to fear and all energy tied to that.

This is why for me, it is crucial to have these divine values honored by all who will potentially participate in a futur radiant//safe zone. Like Michael St-Clair states, if you have one person who is not on that page in your radiant zone, the whole thing fall apart.This mirror actually where we will be at come 2012. All this stuff about assending to 4d and having a higher vibration based on living from the heart.....

OK enough for now, here are some links to the studies I have done, there is alot to read and listen too on video, its time consuming, but I promise you will not have lost these hours. Think about all the time you put here reading fear based stuff and imagine if all that was put on heart/love/compassion based energy.....

Krishnamurti....for you who do not know him, he was a man who for 60 years went around the world, speaking to the masses......with one coherent mesage....his goal was to set man unconditionally free, free from himself and all that is asociated with having a human experience on this earth.......there is alot of stuff out there about him. It can be difficult to find yourself in all this......luckily, some great soul decided to put some of his greatest works all together in a package. Krishnamurti did alot of interviews in his life, there is one series that is the best place to start. It is 18, one hour talks about specific subjects.....they should be listened in the right order...1,2,3...ect.....as they all eveolve from the last one. Yes 18 hours can seem like a daunting task, but please take the time, you will not regret it.....this should be THE catalyst to the begining of a new age in your life.
After that, you can check out some other snippets of Krishnamurti which all mirror these 18 hours.
Then there is the Wingmakers info, this also falls in the same path.....as Michael St-Clair does also......he used to participate here, until all his posts were deleted....(not by Bill and Kerry), there seemed to be some hacking going on and that was the departure of Henry Deacon also.
So St-Clair started his own website, just an amazing place...in fact, right now, its THE place to go for heart based energy. Please read the directives on the front page, everyone there is living from the heart and do not post any fear based info.....I myself have not posted there yet even if I have been a member from day one....I am waiting to be able to contribute to the level of others there.
There are many great enlightened souls in there,,,,look especially for....
Richard Sauder, Chris Hughes,Samantha Britt Beaumont,pete,lohiaaditya,Zynox,The exchanger,and of coarse St-Clair himself.

Here are the links....

18 one hour Krishnamurti videos to start with:
http://stclairzone.ning.com/forum/to...3ATopic%3A2499

"Feedback on Krishnamurti:
http://stclairzone.ning.com/forum/to...age=1#comments

St-Clair Zone:
http://stclairzone.ning.com/

Wingmakers......start with the 3 audio interviews with James, the Wingmakers creator:
http://www.wingmakers.com/whats-new.html

OK, thats enough for now.......
A little note for futur meetings, first, Im not saying that I do not want to go to fear based meetings, I would love to have everyone on the same sound foundation of heart based living and putting aside fear.......that being said, I will attend ALL meetings as the people I met in the first one are all enlightened and I want to share with you all.
We are previledged here in Canada, we have a bit more time than the US to prepare, the upcoming elections are crucial as to what scenario we will have to deal with. Whoever is elected, does not really matter, the earth, energy, societal changes will occur anyhow, its just at what time all this will happen is the detail that will come out after we know who is elected.
January next year will be a big month after the inoguration and possibly, after that, things will go fast....so we have 2-3 months to get our stuff together really.
In closing, I do not want in no way to force anyone to have a look at all the stuff I have posted here, its your life and you have the free will to do what you want, but for me, it will be crucial to have people on the same page for any collaboration in a radiant zone which should be active for 3-7 years.....

Much love and respect to everyone here,
Namaste,
Olam

you cam PM me for more detailed based info, I have acsess to books and litterature that I could give to you on cd format if you are interested...
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