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Old 09-11-2008, 05:25 AM   #51
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Default Re: David Wilcock.

I personally like davids positive outlook is encouraging and good to hear.

It helps me have more faith in a positive outcome.

Just listened to the conversation, brilliant as usually

he just knows way too much.

keep up the good work

One more thing on Bill's comment on palin saying the war is gods war I agree CRAZY woman

who is she to claim that right, man her God is one evil maniac

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Old 09-11-2008, 05:38 AM   #52
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But Bill!? She has such a cool doll though, or "action figure" for you guys out there...

Personally I think Obama is "asleep" as some would say. It really does seem to be that he and Biden believe that "terrorists" are in Afghanistan, so what does that tell us either way? They (Obama & Biden) still look much less war, anger & fear driven then the Mccain style politics we all know and apparently some love. Add in the character even Peggy Hill would call too conservative and that just doesn't sound like good times to many of us...
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:31 AM   #53
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Hi, All:

A quick reply on the fly.

I just noticed this:



Kerry and I DO NOT support Sarah Palin. Just for the record.

Very best to evreyone - Bill
Well, I cannot speak for everyone but, it would seem that most of us here would understand that position from you two by now...hehe!
I would be STUNNED if you did support that woman.
Even one that looks as Stunning as this:


Sad thng is that there are those in the USA that DO support this woman based on her looks alone.

Seriously, What I really like about Project Camelot's interviews is that you have a person such as David Wilcock.
David is Spiritual and blends it with Science.
He understands that there is a connection between EVERYthing that is going on in this world in relation to Spirituality.
While you have interviewed many others that are more secular it is nice to see the spiritual side of life.

David understands that we are ALL ONE and that we are ALL CONNECTED and that we are ALL MULTI-DIMENSIONAL.

I have suggested to you directly Bill in an Email about hopefully interviewing people like Bruce Moen that have had contact with 'other beings' in an OBE state.
(remember the Email about the lost check? Where I felt like an idiot for wasting your time? )

Here is a taste of Bruce Moen on YouTube: (6 mins)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d5dtsLL4-w

This is the ONLY video that Bruce will allow on youtube.
It covers ET and Afterlife Areas. (Focus 27)

I do not know if Bruce would even be allowed to be interviewed but, it would be nice to see his side of things in relation to what is going on.
I cannot hurt to ask....
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:57 AM   #54
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Thank you very much Bill and Kerry for the update on David Wilcock...great stuff as always...

unconditional respect and gratitude to u both

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Old 09-11-2008, 11:20 AM   #55
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Mr. Wilcock does state so much false assumptions.

I think he does that not with bad intentions, but he states so much false assumptions....



And I could get crazy about his recent interview.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:49 AM   #56
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One the the underlying themes of sites like PC, ATS, OMF, is that the PTB run the show and the politians are just pawns for display. IMHO Dems and Rep are no different than pro wrestiling. Fight each other in the ring then have dinner afterwards....they are underlings on the same team.

I find interesting that those who know or belive this support a particular canditate.....IT is all a show.....

Example. The gov't takes control of F&F ($6.4 Trillion). It's hardly mentioned on MSM and all the talk yesterday is of lips and pigs.

While I'm at it, those claiming Obama has to "play along" until he gets into office......need to wake up. If he is your "messiah" (how he's portrayed in the MSM), a true Messiah wouldn't "bend" to conform to that ideology. ~the end justifies the means.....BS......02c

Thanks Project Camelot for the Wilcock interview!

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Old 09-11-2008, 12:10 PM   #57
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Hi,
bill and kerry thank for all your ground breaking work in getting the truth out to the world.my first time on any forum of any kind.very interested in david wicock's work and think he has some positive things to say,but believe strongly he is very very wrong about obama.after having lived through 30 years of polictical violence in northern ireland i have seen enough evidence that politicians of any kind can not be trusted.poly=many tics=blood sucking parasites.
On a more positive note anyone out there came accross the work of drunvalo melchizedek,he has some very interesting thins to say about 2012/poleshift the greys and density/dimension shift and the maya.you can watch a free interview on the conscious media network website some clips on youtube also.
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:50 PM   #58
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Mr. Wilcock does state so much false assumptions.

I think he does that not with bad intentions, but he states so much false assumptions....



And I could get crazy about his recent interview.

I see assumptions, but wonder to which you refer as "false"?

Even with possible false assumptions, I support David's efforts, because of one major tipping point, and that is his effort to keep people positively focused. It's too easy to be led into the trap of fear and hate. He tries to steer people away from that which i believe is a very positive influence. Michael St. Claire too.

I see that as making a big difference in the overall scene.
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Old 09-11-2008, 01:08 PM   #59
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Thanks for this interview too, Bill & Kerry! It covers a lot! I spent the night listening and straight away sent a link to my friends on both sides of the Atlantic.
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Old 09-11-2008, 01:13 PM   #60
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Not to speak for Mr. Wilcock or any of the other interviewees/information sources we've been privvy to via Project Camelot, but I believe the ultimate point behind all of what is happening is the state/attitude/focus of the world does depend on US. Each of us is a focal point of this "Divine Cosmos" and it is therefore up to us to amplify our intent both for US and for existence itself.

And bless the man, but Obama is not our savior, and I doubt that he is as awake as any one of us on this forum. He needs a vote and our greatest HOPE, but we cannot expect him to solve anything for us.

Kucinich on the other hand -- he's the only US politician who is TRULY awake.

But again, he's not the answer either. He just needs our support. Just as does Project Camelot/Avalon.

You are the answer, I am the answer. It's not just HOPING or WANTING peace to happen, it is truly casting away the guilt, shame, and fear of the past, creating each present moment with the best of our lives, and the future will open for us.

Thanks David, and all of us need to thank ourselves for the constant and infinite gift of aiding our own awareness and awakeness.

Have a good 11th, all. We're going to be just fine.
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Old 09-11-2008, 01:44 PM   #61
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One of the main messages that I gathered from David Wilcock's interview is that all of the spiritual work we are all doing within ourselves is paying off!!!

All that we can do is stay in the NOW and continue to work through all the karma we can in the present moment. What David has found only reinforces that we are making a change, and that the power is in the hands of the people. Humanity constantly expandes its consciousness therefore making it impossible for any ONE faction to manipulate the outcome for selfish, hidden motives. Each day I get more hope that Creation will take care of every single person, better than we can imagine or take care of ourselves.

Even if the lights go out, and internet turned off, and hell breaks loose... I have seen with my own eyes the power of human consciousness coming together in a harmonious way. That is something that can never be taken from me, Thanks to you guys!

Remember to stay focused on the moment, and keep trying to expand your heart and you mind while uniting both. Never let up on our personal spiritual development, for that is were the new battlefront takes place!!!

Stay classy Project Avalon!!!

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Old 09-11-2008, 01:54 PM   #62
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With regards to the crop circle element within David Wilcock's last interview, might I refer him and other listeners to an analysis of a crop circle from late August done by Neil Hudson Newman:

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2...tions2008.html

It is mathematical, which puts most off, but equates the formation as a symbol of the end of the American empire. I find this interesting in the light of David's statements about the end of Rockerfeller control. The same researcher also did a similar analysis of a massive formation in 2001, which prophesied the 9/11 attacks, although the analysis was subsequent to them.

Much of what David says about crop circles rings true to me, and his slant on the Russia-Georgia conflict made much sense.

Thank you David, Kerry and Bill.
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Old 09-11-2008, 03:09 PM   #63
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My opinion of Mr Wilcock is not a very good one. He takes the work of many other respected individuals and taints it with his wild imagination. I would urge anyone who listened to this guy for the first time to take into the account of the many subjects he touched on and do your own individual research and come to your own conclusions.

I do believe he is good in the sense that he's able to articulate on so many topics. I just don't agree with how he uses this information to support his own manifested fantasies.
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Old 09-11-2008, 03:38 PM   #64
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Most of us, including Mr. Wilcock don't have the facilities to conduct the experiments he lectures about...unless you have a large microwave emitter and a duck & hen handy, or a photon accelerator, are a time traveling-matter-manifesting chair, etc. So once again, where are his assumptions and what makes him different from any other analyst? Not to mention, most of us enjoy other's take on "the big picture" and David displays a deep understanding of what he lectures on and has quiet a bit of info. So to all of you who don't think much of him, by all means, "debunk" his work if you think you can...
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Old 09-11-2008, 04:09 PM   #65
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My opinion of Mr Wilcock is not a very good one. He takes the work of many other respected individuals and taints it with his wild imagination.
that is what research is. taking other people information, putting it together, and coming up with a coherent model that will explain everything that was researched. david's model does sound pretty far out, but it is supported by all of the evidence he present, which is quite a lot indeed.
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Old 09-11-2008, 04:18 PM   #66
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I enjoyed as always hearing what David has to say, and he has referred more than once a site TBRNews.org, which I also recommend for those interested in political hackery inside the beltway-they have a series of taped phone conversations transcribed by author Gregory Douglas with retired CIA man Robert Crowley-it is a good way to understand the mindset of these "folks" who pull the strings.

As for Obama...because my bias is toward the "liberal" side, it is hard to really acknowledge that indeed the 2 candidates are both puppets to some faction-and one is preferable to the other. Is that really the case? I don't know-I always thought at the very tip top of the pyramid-both sides are being manipulated and it isn't a matter of who but when-the NWO will be pushed into being.

It's like the little squirrel out in the yard burying his nuts in my garden, little does he know I plan on tilling up that area soon...maybe not today, but he'll need to make other plans at some point. This is why I'm not convinced it is necessary to buy gold and move to Central America per George Green.

I refuse to fear them. Period. I will focus on Love, Forgiveness and Peace, if that won't carry me through, then so be it. Besides, I can't afford gold anyway!

Keep up the good work Bill and Kerry.
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Old 09-11-2008, 04:34 PM   #67
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My opinion of Mr Wilcock is not a very good one. He takes the work of many other respected individuals and taints it with his wild imagination. I would urge anyone who listened to this guy for the first time to take into the account of the many subjects he touched on and do your own individual research and come to your own conclusions.

I do believe he is good in the sense that he's able to articulate on so many topics. I just don't agree with how he uses this information to support his own manifested fantasies.



Think about the dedication and unity it took to put this forum together.

Now consider staying out of the view of the public eyes for several centurys to build a global empire. This is disinformation. The dark brotherhood have one mind. This is darkness working in unity.
They truly understand the law of one , and thats why they keep us divided. We need to stop looking at the messenger and only the message.
All of these names are an illusion. There's only vibration, and this message is vibrating very low. There is no David Wilcock,Russia , Jews or Dick Cheney. There's only Truth. A lot of our Whistle blower info is entertainment. A new bone to play with.
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Old 09-11-2008, 07:01 PM   #68
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Among other topics of interest, i enjoy David Wilcock's research and analysis on the synergistic relationship between science and spirituality and also his insights into the psychology of co-dependence in human relationships. David has got a lot going for him but i do not share the same appreciation for the "Ra" material.

In fact, given some of the content of the 'Law of One' channelings i believe Wilcock is mistaken about the origin and orientation of the source. It might sound presumptuous of me, since David doesn't share my concerns, but i seriously doubt that "Ra" is related to David Wilcock in any positive way and that he has made that assumption in error, based on his reading of the channelings of Don Elkins et al.

After making that argument on a forum earlier this year (along with an analysis of some of the "Ra' material) i recently came across another critical analysis of Wilcock's 'source'. Interested readers will find an unbiased review of the book "The Re-incarnation of Edgar Cayce" by Wynn Free and David Wilcock' on a website called "The Hutton Commentaries' hosted by William Hutton.

A geologist by profession, Hutton is a long time analyst of the Cayce material and specialises in the science of Earth Changes as they relate to human consciousnes and other related spiritual topics. See this link:

http://www.huttoncommentaries.com/ar...y=6&article=81

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Old 09-11-2008, 07:08 PM   #69
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Just an FYI

After reviewing Kerry's thread concerning what the Project Avalon category/section's purpose is (Finding safe places, information and resources for building communities, site suggestions), I don't think this thread is in the appropriate section.

So, I'm moving it to the Project Camelot section.

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Old 09-11-2008, 07:25 PM   #70
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While David Wilcock does rely heavily on his own intuition to extrapilate many of his ideas, he also knows his facts. David must be commended for his ablility to remain supremely optimistic, despite the immense pressure placed on him from all sides of the aisle.

Those who have judge Barrack Hussein Obama one way or the other, are jumping the gun. As Wilcock stated it is quite possible that Obama is going by the addage, "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer".

Did JFK state that he believed secret societies were behind the tragic conditions within the United State government BEFORE he was elected President? The answer is No. Did John Kennedy run on a candidacy that stated he would try to peacefully settle the Cold War with Russia through a joint space program? The answer again is no, of course not. Kennedy knew he had to do whatever it took to get elected in order to enact real change, including working with the Mafia in a lot of ways, only to turn against organized crime once he was elected. Absolutely brilliant. Barack Obama, with help from Michelle, may actually be this clever.

On the other side it is quite possible Obama has sold out to the Brzezinski crowd. If that is the case the only hope would probably be from "white hats" within the CIA and other agencies.

Either way, the jury is still out on Obama. We must be very careful to have the audacity to believe we know someone before we have even given them a chance.

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Old 09-11-2008, 08:17 PM   #71
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Hello from UK

Just spent 2 hours today listening to this interview...

FYI Russia stated on their tv news ~2 days ago that 9/11 was an inside job so maybe Russia does have this information as stated.
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:06 PM   #72
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I think David might be right, or half right, even if Obama is doing so intuitively without knowing. I still think Obama is being duped. As people point out, he is very confident as is the trait with most Leos some would say. That pride can be used to hide things from someone. If you read his demeanor & his moves, he acts like a man who really does still believe in the "American Dream" ideal. And why shouldn't he? Look where he started, look where he ended up. Do you think they clued him in on all the "how's & why's" of how he got there whether he's on the take or not?
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:35 PM   #73
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David Wilcock really needs to footnote almost every statement, so those of us who ask: "How does he know it was the Annunaki? Weren't the Annunaki the ones Zecharia Sitchin talks about, from Sumerian times?" can follow his logic. Otherwise there do seem to be many unfounded statements. I don't believe they are unfounded at all, just he's put so much together that we don't know how he arrived at his conclusions. That is, by the way, his great strength, how his mind works in putting things together, which someone here has called "imagination," but is really his own particular logic. He makes leaps of faith that many of us don't make.

I would like to see his take on this:
1. Somebody or some thing is trying to kill this planet and all the Native Earth Life on it.
2. WE are the Native Earth Life, along with all the plants and animals.
3. OIL (PETROLEUM) - the most poisonous substance on this planet. Everything made from petroleum is either poisonous or harmful in some way to Native Earth Life: pesticides, paint, glue, plastics, oils, lubricants, "petro-chemicals," solvents, household poisons, toothpaste, ad infinitum.
4. OIL (PETROLEUM) is used to make, either directly, or indirectly in some process, almost every item we can buy in the stores.
5. Our children are being BORN poisoned, with over 200 totally alien, unnatural, manmade, artificial, largely petroleum-derived substances in their blood. Not one of those substances contributes to the health of any living thing. WHY is it so impossible for us to stop them from doing this?
6. This escalation in the use of OIL (PETROLEUM) for everything in our lives, and the alarming level of poisoning on this planet has happened very rapidly, within the past 60 years. Before that, this planet had been healthy for thousands of years. Anybody follow the logic here?

Given all this, given that OIL (PETROLEUM) has completely taken over our lives in ways that most people are not aware of, and given that if the use of OIL (PETROLEUM) were completely eliminated from our industries, most of the poison/pollution problems on this planet would completely disappear ... WHY do we keep using it? They've known how harmful it is for over 60 years. WHO will not let it die?

I've gone past the point of thinking that this is merely human greed. Even greedy humans must at some point see the stupidity of killing the very planet that sustains life, including their own life, including their childrens' lives. So I've come to the conclusion that the point here IS to kill off all Native Earth Life. That's me and you, by the way.

This goes way beyond Illuminati or TPTB wanting to reduce population. They are killing everything, mammals, insects, amphibians, reptiles, fish, plants, trees. They are destroying the natural cycles of this planet. WHY?

Aluminum and barium in chemtrails up there ends up down here, in our food and water. It also ends up in the food and water of all the animals. What is the point of having over-the-horizon radar (if that is what they are doing) or even trying to build a sun shield (if that is what they are doing) if in the process you poison all the life on this planet? Who thinks they can survive this?

That's why I've come to the conclusion that the "people" in charge of this planet are not, cannot be, human. Maybe they are the Annunaki, getting this planet ready for themselves. But it's my feeling that somebody or some thing WANTS this planet, and they are taking it.

Since we can't stop them, the only defense I've been able to come up with is: Stop buying the stuff they make. Just stop. They need us to keep the cycle of poisons going. If we drop out, the cycle grinds to a halt.

I'd love to hear what David thinks of this.

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While David Wilcock does rely heavily on his own intuition to extrapilate many of his ideas, he also knows his facts. David must be commended for his ablility to remain supremely optimistic, despite the immense pressure placed on him from all sides of the aisle.

Those who have judge Barrack Hussein Obama one way or the other, are jumping the gun. As Wilcock stated it is quite possible that Obama is going by the addage, "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer".

Did JFK state that he believed secret societies were behind the tragic conditions within the United State government BEFORE he was elected President? The answer is No. Did John Kennedy run on a candidacy that stated he would try to peacefully settle the Cold War with Russia through a joint space program? The answer again is no, of course not. Kennedy knew he had to do whatever it took to get elected in order to enact real change, including working with the Mafia in a lot of ways, only to turn against organized crime once he was elected. Absolutely brilliant. Barack Obama, with help from Michelle, may actually be this clever.

On the other side it is quite possible Obama has sold out to the Brzezinski crowd. If that is the case the only hope would probably be from "white hats" within the CIA and other agencies.

Either way, the jury is still out on Obama. We must be very careful to have the audacity to believe we know someone before we have even given them a chance.

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You are very wise.

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Old 09-11-2008, 10:21 PM   #75
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While I'm at it, those claiming Obama has to "play along" until he gets into office......need to wake up. If he is your "messiah" (how he's portrayed in the MSM), a true Messiah wouldn't "bend" to conform to that ideology. ~the end justifies the means.....BS......02c
first of all, if obama would suddenly announce he is going to 'take on' the PTB, without having even been elected yet, it would be political suicide. did ron paul admit to knowing the official 911 story is bogus? no, because he understood it would completely destroy any progress that was made. sure, he didn't really stand much of a chance of winning in the first place, but that's beside the point.

secondly, most of us who are open to wilcock's explanation that obama is just playing along for the time being, we certainly don't see obama as a mesiah. i think most of the people who visit this site know that one person will not save us from this mess we're in. obama is no mesiah, but that certainly doesn't automatically mean he's controlled 100% by the PTB.
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