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Old 09-15-2008, 06:03 PM   #26
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:05 PM   #27
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CHILDREN! You're allowing yourselves / egos to get in the way of Project Avalon's purposes!
Practice the Law of Allowance. Practice the Heart Virtues (See the Wingmakers material).

I am Kayak.
No ego here. I am trying to understand where troopgear is coming from and I am really looking forward to him telling me where I am lacking so that I can either clarify or fix my thinking. This is the purpose of this post. I have no control over his charged emotions but I am interested in his views. He is very passionate about his position.
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:05 PM   #28
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Tell you what, explain my last question and I will tell you about gold
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:08 PM   #29
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I hope everyone here remembers that being in a state of fear is not productive for the continuation of life.

It is my opinion that "fear" only helps "the bad guys" achieve whatever it is that they are aiming for.

We can ALL live just fine without money, cars, houses, toilets...all of that. Be calm, feed the soul, smile at everyone you see and you will feel such peace that it will be communicated to those around you and any problems that come along will be easily dealt with.

At least that is how I think these problems can be better handled.

Calm thoughts and feelings to everyone-Francie Jones
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:08 PM   #30
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Please, "no cut and paste"

Thank-you
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:11 PM   #31
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Are you still there "QUESTINY"
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:12 PM   #32
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Gosh troop, you know. If you didn't come across as such a egoist. You might actually be heard. But most of us here won't look past the name calling.
If you haven't already guessed. Whatever argument your trying to win, has no opposition. And whatever it is your trying to say, we don't understand.

All I hear is "Listen to me, I am obviously smarter than you, so much so that I don't need to explain myself. Im american and am always correct. I will just respond in two or three lines, and call you names to put you in your place."
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:13 PM   #33
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Have I posted something that explains the definition of Money that you don't agree with? I don't remember posting anything that gave a defination of this. In addition, to your other derailing question, you will notice the post about the Plunge Protection Team was addressed to Zarathustra. I ask you again, what is the difference between a 1 oz gold coin and a 1 oz gold bar?
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:15 PM   #34
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If you have some insights on who started the PPT then please post and share your insights.
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:16 PM   #35
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Why YES I am, very good,

can you sit and roll also.....
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:17 PM   #36
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Sure. I can sit and roll, can't most everyone.
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:20 PM   #37
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Too bad you all could have learned something new today!!!

Once again "QUESTINY" all you did was defer the question....

You go buy as many coins as you want.... Sucker born every min. in here!!!


That wasn't for you "QUESTINY"

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Old 09-15-2008, 06:22 PM   #38
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Too bad you all could have learned something new today!!!

Once again "QUESTINY" all you did was defer the question....

You go buy as many coin you want.... Sucker born every min. in here!!!
Now I have to come to the conclusion that you are either one of two things.

Totally useless in the way of bringing information to people for the good of all.
But deep down have an agenda that strives to connect people...

Or Totally useless in the way of bringing information to people for the good of all.
And deep down have an agenda that is self serving and full of fear.


If you have something useful to bring to this thread, we are all looking at you right now. Here is your chance.
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:25 PM   #39
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It would be helpful if this thread were redirected away from personalities back to the seriousness of the initial issue presented and the steps, if there are any, on how an individual can protect oneself.

My son is one of the recent ex directors of the Swiss Bank in London. I think I'll give him a call and see what his take is on all of this. He did say several months back to get out of the market, get out of debt and keep cash on hand in a safe place.

Okay, just spoke with him and here is his take on the current financial situation.

Cash is good short term as this continues to unravel, safety is the key. Longer-term, go with exchange traded funds (ETF) with low expense rations to give to access the S&P 500. SPDRs are a specific type of ETF. Currently, it's difficult to predict the bottom... wait a little while. AIG is close to going bust as well; many companies will have losses regarding this bankruptcy. The next six months will be a rough ride, not until next spring would likely be a good time to re-invest. For some folks (in england) it would be best to just pay off their mortgage because interest is not tax deductible there. Not so in the US. One also has to look at how much liquidity one needs.

Putting money into any sort of retirement type plans is good. Even within some sort of IRA one can usually buy the SP 500 ETF, which is very liquid, relatively cheap to trade, low commissions, and gives exposure to a highly diversified index.

Long term - one wants to be in the equity market... think 20 years or more as this will also minimizes ones expense ratio and builds equity.

Gold is now in the $700 range and may be a good investment but is very difficult to predict short-term investment prices and value.

Cash is good. Particularly for the next 6 months as the equity market can still go down quite a bit more. Dollar has rallied against the Euro. The Euro is now predicted to go down.

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Old 09-15-2008, 06:25 PM   #40
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if i were posting in this thread
i would ask myself

are my motives and intentions for posting herein in alignment with the project avalon mission?

Project Avalon mission:
*** To provide resources and information in support of the GROUND CREW.


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Old 09-15-2008, 06:26 PM   #41
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Do you know what this is call.......????? empathy


Double speak!!!!!!

An american agenda term.....

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Old 09-15-2008, 06:28 PM   #42
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We all generally want to learn and none of us believe we have all the answers. I agree with empathy. Please share with us so we can have a constructive discussion?
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:31 PM   #43
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My son is one of the recent ex directors of the Swiss Bank in London. I think I'll give him a call and see what his take is on all of this. He did say several months back to get out of the market, get out of debt and keep cash on hand in a safe place.
Here is an interesting article from Europe that may have relevance to this discussion. It is important to note that this article was released in February of 2008. Enjoy.

http://www.leap2020.eu/GEAB-N-22-is-...omy_a1298.html
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:32 PM   #44
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Sorry troopgear. We're all moving on.
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:33 PM   #45
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My Point is you don't need to put your two cent into everything.....
Sometimes you need to listen.....
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:34 PM   #46
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Q,

I don't hear many talk about the fact that the Fed no longer publishes the M3 statistic. Personally, I find that very disturbing, much like the writers of that article.
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:40 PM   #47
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My Point is you don't need to put your two cent into everything.....
Sometimes you need to listen.....
Very wise indeed. Now please, enough of your "two cent"
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:41 PM   #48
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troopgear,
>My Point is you don't need to put your two cent into everything.....

Then what do you think this place should be about, if not thoughts and opinions are to be expressed?

Questiny:
Thanks for pointing out more articles I like.
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:42 PM   #49
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Hi, troopgear:

I'm one of those people who understands enough to know that there are problems, but does NOT know enough - about economics, because that's not my training - to understand the REAL issues and their implications for us all.

If you ARE an economist, we'd welcome your views. If you feel (or better still, know) that there's incorrect information here, then please do share it - that would be a valuable contribution.

If you're NOT an economist, then it'd be helpful to understand why you think that the members' concerns here (and mine are among them) are not valid.

Very best wishes, Bill

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Old 09-15-2008, 06:57 PM   #50
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Sent you a mess. Bill
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