Worship Is Not Necessary

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by 371

Am I correct in assuming you think YOU are ABOVE Jesus?

I know for a fact that Jesus is a made up story, as far being a great teacher, born of a virgin, sacrifice for mankind.

[371]

Yes or No?

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by 371

Yes or No?

How can you be above or below or anti something that doesn't exist?

[371]

Answer the question. IF you're so sure of yourself.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by 371

Answer the question. IF you're so sure of yourself.

There is an assumption in the question, so you have to say, ASSUMING Jesus was born of a virgin and died on the cross for our sins, are you above Jesus?

THEN, I would say, no.

But he didn't. So your question is irrelevant.

In the sense of being above or below, anything, I am above nothing and nobody.

I was put lower than any person has ever been put on this earth, remaining alive. I was put inside a black hole, I was a black hole, literally.

And I am rising again.

It's messianic in that my fall and rise was based on a sacrifice, and faith, and DIVINE intervention, miracles, etc.

There is a New Revelation and there will be a New Age and I am the New Age Messiah.

My sacrifice was accepted by the Goddess.

This is a little bit about the Goddess, from a Wicca website...

http://www.wicca-spirituality.com/goddess-symbols.html

The apple has long been associated with the worship of the Goddess.

Note the story of Eve and the Serpent (one of the eternal Goddess symbols). When Eve ate the apple, she was taking in Divine wisdom - the knowledge that she is Divine. Thus she would become immortal.

The apple seems to have always been associated with death and eternal life.

Walker writes,

"Graves [in Greek Myths, vol. 2] points out that the whole story of Eve, Adam, and the serpent in the tree was deliberately misinterpreted from icons showing the Great Goddess offering life to her worshipper, in the form of an apple, with the tree and its serpent [the sacred guardian] in the background." (Barbara Walker, The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets, p 49.)

Naturally a jealous God - who wants to be the only god - would outlaw such knowledge of one's divinity! But since it is Truth, He couldn't keep it hidden forever. So when it came out, He decided to keep us so busy with survival and pain that we wouldn't have time to notice our divinity.

It worked pretty well!

Luckily the Goddess is more compassionate, and not threatened by others being empowered. She gave us plenty of hints along the way, to remember.

One of these is the apple. Cut in half, its seed bed - the most potent part of the fruit - reveals the sacred 5-pointed star within the circle of apple skin.

This is the pentacle - the expression of One Divinity as all facets of the world.

[371]

You're dancing around it.... if you're so sure of yourself, what do you have to worry about...

If you don't think he existed, then it is a YES is it not?

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by 371

You're dancing around it.... if you're so sure of yourself, what do you have to worry about...

If you don't think he existed, then it is a YES is it not?

You're just baiting me. I am not dumb.

Paul never said a word that Jesus taught. Paul never even mentioned Jesus being a teacher. Paul never mentioned the virgin birth.

IF Jesus was a great teacher and had all these amazing things to say, Paul would have elaborated upon them.

IF Jesus was born of a virgin, Paul would have mentioned it. The idea of messiah as propounded by Christianity RELIES on Jesus being born of a virgin.

Jesus was a militant rebel, trying to force the kingdom of god, like so many in his day and age did, but the kingdom of god was just an independent Israeli state.

Paul made up a religion on the fly. Jesus' teachings are nothing special, and sometimes hideous.

It's the Emperor not wearing clothes things. So much of modern spiritual stuff is based on Jesus being someone special and Israel being God's chosen people. Neither premise is true, both are false.

[371]

Ok........ got my answer, I think it should be pretty clear to everyone else too...

Thank you.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

Each of us should seek to balance both the Father / Alpha and Mother / Omega within our beings.

Balance is the key.

No person can will or make themselves to be anything better than what they are in essence.

Any groping to balance yourself or whatever is just ego energy.

Any dogma is just an ego attempt to control and manipulate.

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

So much of modern spiritual stuff is based on Jesus being someone special and Israel being God's chosen people. Neither premise is true, both are false.

once upon a time

in a desert of decay

a righteous man

Abraham

found favor in the eyes of God


and as an apple does not fall far from the tree

Abraham was to be the father of a nation

a righteous nation

Israel

found favor in the eyes of God


time turns the pages into past

people do not look up to that they do not see


here is a New Covenant now

for all who believes in the message of the Messiah

and lives up to it

as best as they can

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

once upon a time in a desert of decay a righteous man Abraham found favor in the eyes of God and as an apple does not fall far from the tree Abraham was to be the father of a nation a righteous nation
Israel found favor in the eyes of God time turns the pages into past people do not look up to that they do not see here is a New Covenant now for all who believes in the message of the Messiah and lives up to it as best as they can.

There was no fundamental message of the "messiah". If you're invited to a wedding, remember your oil, or burn in hell forever.

If you don't bear fruit, burn in hell forever.

If you're not ready in that hour, burn in hell forever.

If you're not on the narrow path, burn in hell forever.

If you try to make sense of this, and teach it, good luck. Everyone will hate you.

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

There was no fundamental message of the "messiah". If you're invited to a wedding, remember your oil, or burn in hell forever.

If you don't bear fruit, burn in hell forever.

If you're not ready in that hour, burn in hell forever.

If you're not on the narrow path, burn in hell forever.

If you try to make sense of this, and teach it, good luck. Everyone will hate you.

seems to me your mind is bent on hell lol

me suspects you have not read the Gospel


well Im not trying to convince you

but I feel obliged to speak when me ears hear nonsense


Im working on that


in the meantime

please observe silence lol

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

seems to me your mind is bent on hell lol

me suspects you have not read the Gospel

The part about almost everyone burning in hell forever???

Originally Posted by RedeZra

well Im not trying to convince you

but I feel obliged to speak when me ears hear nonsense

Then you should certainly wash yourself of Christianity.

Originally Posted by RedeZra

in the meantime

please observe silence lol

I proved Christianity false. It's up to you whether you accept the fact.

Since most people's ego identity relies on some religion being true, or whatever, they're pretty much hopeless to hear anything different....

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

I proved Christianity false. It's up to you whether you accept the fact.

where did you prove that

what are your sources


voices in the head lol

who's voice


the Church has become a ship without a Captain

a victim of mutiny

sailing under false flag


still there are decent people

confessing to Christianity


for the Captain

is not lost at sea

[Reader]

Move along people, Nothing to see here

[Lionhawk]

Well, I guess it is a common phenomenon across the board when it comes to Jesus. If you never truly sought him out, then you will never find him. Most people seek him out in a book. I could never find him there either, because he wasn't there. I guess it depends on where you look. All I can say is that it took 40 years to finally find him. He is just as real as you or I. Which also means he is around today. You can find him if you have the will to do so or the intent. In other words, Jesus is provable. It is simply a matter of your resolve. He isn't fiction.

There are Goddesses. They had a party a year ago that they wanted me to see. What I have concluded is that if you weren't at this party, then you were not invited because you don't have the right stuff. There were hundreds of them. What tripped me out was that I was the only male there. And I was also not allowed in on the floor but they wanted me to watch from a perched window to witness what they were celebrating. They came from all over this Universe to celebrate a pregnancy. The message was that everything is fine and on schedule. This was something grand as they all seemed to act as though they were all in unison, as if they were pregnant themselves, but weren't with what is about to be birthed in this Universe.

The God of our Universe will also speak to you in the tone that you are willing to hear. What is most comforting to you. God is all of the aspects including male and female energies. There are also more energies that are not duality in nature, that also promote creation, without the male and female aspects. We only limit our own perceptions by what we deal with here.

Again, what really makes us special is that we can prove these things out if we do not allow our resolve to be compromised by second hand methods.

Prove this stuff out people. Be your own Messiah! That is the real message that Jesus tried to tell everyone.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by RedeZra

where did you prove that

It's the greatest true story ever told. I thought everyone knew by now.

Go tell it on the mountain, the New Age messiah is here!!!!

[Jonah]

Well...

This is starting to become redundant.... so

If we can all come to an agreement to disagree than that would be productive I think...

If the Christ consciousness was born by a virgin... than ok...

if he wasn't, than that's ok too...

if he never existed at all, than guess what..... still all good...

What is interesting though was how the message came across to so many people it resonates with.

Wrong or right ... I will chose to search my own consciousness for my own answer.. cheers

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by Jonah

Wrong or right ... I will chose to search my own consciousness for my own answer.. cheers

Just to really find it, you have to recognize it comes from nowhere and nothing, and it's not "your own" as in an ownership type thing.

It's Her Being.

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

Go tell it on the mountain, the New Age messiah is here!!!!

stones anyone lol

[THE eXchanger]

"good god - direct "
susan/the eXchanger

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

It's the greatest true story ever told. I thought everyone knew by now.

Go tell it on the mountain, the New Age messiah is here!!!!

Just for you Messiah:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45kt...59BE19&index=6

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Just for you Messiah:

Here's for the Christians...

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

"good god - direct "

Time's a wasting, need to get to it!!!

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

Here's for the Christians...

I'm not a christian