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Old 10-25-2008, 11:06 PM   #1
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Hey everybody,

As most of us know, search engines track IP addresses so they (be it the company or intel agencies) can find out WHO's searching for WHAT.

I found this website where you can search google without (supposedly, being tracked). I guess since you go through their site, Google sees all the searches as coming from the web site, so they don't know specifically who's searching for what.

Maybe it could be flawed, but I think it's worth a look for whoever's interested.

http://www.scroogle.org/
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:30 PM   #2
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yup I already use it and its way better than google.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:34 PM   #3
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Cheers for the link

There are hundreds of search engines out there you can use, and some are far better than Google.

I don't use the like's of Google, they are far to limited and cencored with the info you seek. I usually surf the deep/invisible where the world is your Oyster.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:37 PM   #4
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Maybe it could be flawed, but I think it's worth a look for whoever's interested.

http://www.scroogle.org/
May work great to stop advertisers from tracking your visits...

but the three letter boys have a new toy also..

NSA granted Net location-tracking patent

The National Security Agency has obtained a patent on a method of figuring out an Internet user's geographic location.

Patent 6,947,978, granted Tuesday, describes a way to discover someone's physical location by comparing it to a "map" of Internet addresses with known locations.

The NSA did not respond Wednesday to an interview request, and the patent description talks only generally about the technology's potential uses. It says the geographic location of Internet users could be used to "measure the effectiveness of advertising across geographic regions" or flag a password that "could be noted or disabled if not used from or near the appropriate location."

Other applications of the geo-location patent, invented by Stephen Huffman and Michael Reifer of Maryland, could relate to the NSA's signals intelligence mission--which is, bluntly put, spying on the communications of non-U.S. citizens.

"If someone's engaged in a dialogue or frequenting a 'bad' Web site, the NSA might want to know where they are," said Mike Liebhold, a senior researcher at the Institute for the Future who has studied geo-location technology. "It wouldn't give them precision, but it would give them a clue that they could use to narrow down the location with other intelligence methods."

http://news.cnet.com/NSA-granted-Net...3-5875953.html


Even if using such a service you still ultimately go through your own IP server. I am trying to find the ruling that made all IP servers have to file reports as of January this year

There is also this.. From 2005

US intelligence service bugged website visitors despite ban

The intelligence service at the centre of the row over eavesdropping tracked visitors to its website, despite US government regulations. Monitoring files, known as "cookies", were discovered by a privacy activist at a time when the White House is on the defensive about its use of the National Security Agency to monitor the communications of US citizens.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2005...ewmedia.usnews

AT&T’s Implementation of NSA Spying on American Citizens

I wrote the following document in 2004 when it became clear to me that AT&T, at the behest of the National Security Agency, had illegally installed secret computer gear designed to spy on internet traffic. At the time I thought this was an outgrowth of the notorious “Total Information Awareness” program which was attacked by defenders of civil liberties. But now it’s been revealed by the New York Times that the spying program
is vastly bigger and was directly authorized by president Bush, as he himself has now admitted, in flagrant violation of specific statutes and Constitutional protections for civil liberties. I am presenting this information to facilitate the dismantling of this dangerous Orwellian project.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6//att_klein_wired.pdf


The NSA 0wnz popular firewalls and 'secure' email services

All your secrets are belong to them
By Egan Orion: Friday, 21 December 2007, 9:19 AM

CRYPTOME reports that the US National Security Agency (NSA) has remote administrative access to several of the most popular Windows PC firewalls, and that it has also taken control of a number of supposedly "secure " email services within the past few months.

It writes that the personal computer firewall software products from MacAfee, Symantec and Zone Alarm all "...facilitate Microsoft's NSA-controlled remote admin access via IP/TCP ports 1024 through 1030... without security flag."

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...ular-firewalls

Cryptome is a group I respect for data...

Maybe this scroogle will help... but they still have Echelon and Muos stations around the world
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:13 AM   #5
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Scroogle is great. I use it too. It however it is not something that hides your IP address.

Here is what it does. It gets your IP and does not keep it on file. The file that does receive you IP address is temporary.

To protect your IP address there are several free IP cloaker sites but they have limits. Some limit how many sites you can search, some sites won't allow you access when cloaked by them, like Yahoo, and Google who are notorius about snooping on you. For example if you have a Yahoo bar on your browser including FireFox they can capture everything you do, including financials.

Then other sites are very slow and respond so slowly you can't reasonably use them.

To obtain and protect your privacy on the internet visit these sites. And remember if you don't protect your privacy..... who will?

http://www.metropipe.net

http://www.rayservers.com/index.html
Make sure to click on all the links.

http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html

http://www.hide-my-ip-address.com/hideip/

The following are secure email services some of which go out a scrub your tracks after the email is delivered.
https://ssl.mailvault.com/

http://www.stealthmessage.com/

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Old 10-26-2008, 12:21 AM   #6
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Oooh....
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:46 AM   #7
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I can just see what the PTB are saying now:

"TERRORISTS!! ALL OF THEM!!!! What do they have to hide?!??!"

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Old 10-26-2008, 05:22 AM   #8
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The entire idea that we got to inherit the internet from Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in the first place should make you suspicious of your privacy while using it.

Cameras from space, microphones in cellphones, and CCTVs all pale in comparison to the internet and its potential for spying and monitoring on peoples day to day activities that could be used to exploit its users. Addware and spyware are now common terms in everyday language, both which utilize stealth and monitoring activities.

In other words, considering all the wonderful toys and technologies the DOD has now that can make our current computers look like the TI99 calculators from the 70s, I would find it shockingly surprising that they would not exploit the internet as a data collecting and reconnaissance tool. Bigger than Google maybe?

Its beautiful. They don't even have to aim surveillance at you, or have a team focused on your activities as it is all logged as it happens live, and any past action can merely be recalled from storage banks. Cyber-detectives chasing down a lead. I imagine that somewhere, someone could look at everything you have ever done online, just as easy as someone else could focus a space camera on your mail and read it.

Paranoia?
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:09 PM   #9
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It becomes a moot point about hiding anything when you have nothing to hide.
It is even better when you want the PTB and secretive three letter guys to "know" what
you are saying. Thus it is with Gale and I and some others. We want the PTB to know
what we were discussing. We enjoy watching them scramble to try and get ahead of us
only to go off in a different direction with new information they were not aware of.
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:34 PM   #10
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For example if you have a Yahoo bar on your browser including FireFox they can capture everything you do, including financials.
Yes Yahoo and Google tool bars are IMO a virus missed with spyware AND adware wrapped up into one. They also take a lot of active memory.
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:38 PM   #11
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It is even better when you want the PTB and secretive three letter guys to "know" what you are saying.
Dang and I thought I was the only one who did that.

One of my 'contacts' once told me this...

"I'll help you hold the dogs at bay, like the nice visitors that talk with a monotone, have no humor, and use black as the preferred aesthetic appeal in apparel. That should be easy enough with honesty and truth. No one else uses that tactic. It'll really throw them off."

He was right... and surprisingly enough it has opened doors for me that you cannot imagine

And so far we have had only one 'visitor'... and he was very amicable.


After he left I made a few inquiries... one interesting reply was this..


"Your note is full of so many things that we could chat about...literally for hours. What really caught my interest was the story about the 'visitor' y'all had. I used to do similar things...get in the car...drive over half of God's Creation to 'visit' with people, scientists and some folks with special skills.

Remember...for someone to be able to do that (travel, etc.)...that takes a 'budget', schedules, etc. And in order for someone to do something like that (like I used to do right after 9/11 thru early -03)...someone who has a discretionary budget generally finances those kind of 'intel' projects. Does the term 'reconoiter' mean anything to you? (LOL)! Just be careful.. They probably don't consider you guys to be a threat, or they'd have already 'bored you to death with conversation' (ROTFFL!). A futher consideration is the 'spoon-feed-effect'. No need to extrapolate on that issue/prospect."




KNOW THINE ENEMY



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Old 10-26-2008, 05:53 PM   #12
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but the three letter boys have a new toy also..

NSA granted Net location-tracking patent
HERE I AM! OVER HERE!



Hide it in plain sight. Email your recipes using one time
pad encryption. Give them something to chew on!

...and remember


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Old 10-26-2008, 08:25 PM   #13
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I can't access sites such as http://anonymouse.org/ because the Saudi Arabian government has blocked all proxy avoidance sites. I have to setup a SSH tunnel to a secure proxy server in order to access all sites.
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Old 10-26-2008, 08:36 PM   #14
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I can't access sites such as http://anonymouse.org/ because the Saudi Arabian government has blocked all proxy avoidance sites. I have to setup a SSH tunnel to a secure proxy server in order to access all sites.
I'm curious, can they block a satellite IP
such as hughes net?
http://www.hughesnet.com/
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:34 AM   #15
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For a good google alternative that respects your privacy, try IxQuick. It integrates seamlessly into Firefox and IE, and probably other browsers too, but I use Firefox.
http://ixquick.com/

For more info, check out
http://ixquick.com/eng/aboutixquick/
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:52 PM   #16
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I tried that stealthmessage. Very easy. I hope it really works!
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Old 10-27-2008, 06:23 PM   #17
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Thanks I am able to stay in the places I want to go without being tossed out asap
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Old 10-27-2008, 06:40 PM   #18
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I used to look after a very big GISP, the largest in Europe in fact. I can tell you from experience that there is little you can do to remain anonymous without spending a few bob first.
All the above are great ideas but not insurmountable for a govt agency to track you. Your own ISP has a log of your activity for starters...I suppose it depends on just how far you want to go
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