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Thisa one?
Or this one? ...or... this'n ?
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From your higher seats of consciousness, you know everything you could possibly want to. As you contact and start to restore your connections in that regard, you become rather fool proof, because your true self knows what is truly going on, and knows of it's experiments and "arrangements". If you believe you have some question about whether there is a hidden hand up your butt (metaphorically speaking) then it's easy enough to discern, provided you can hear the answer. You simply ask. Just picture yourself turning around and demanding "hey!!...you there in the bushes!!...show and identify yourself." It has no choice but to comply, but don't be surprised to hear "you asked for it". Last edited by Myplanet2; 03-08-2010 at 12:24 PM. |
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03-08-2010, 12:31 PM | #304 |
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BREAKING NEWS! I heard the thuban material will return. A second coming of the Jesus Dragon Star will be reborn and I will follow it with the rest of you. But....... My bible doesnt give specifics on when he and the info will
return. Maybe 2012 , maybe after the thuban antichrist dragon white dwarf shows up. Its all speculation right now but know this...Oh wait im typing on the wrong thread! this is the sexual harassment case huh? My fault. Hopefully , just maybe the return wont sexually attack people on this forum. Bc that is crossing the line or maybe its not. So the question is now, if someone presents really cool blue like material that has cool stuff you never heard of and your all giddy about this new form of thought and it seems to be an evolved discussion should it get to say whatever it wants? Even if it says stuff that deals with sexual harassment? Lets define the different levels outloud, why not? Sexual harassment is by far the most common form of workplace harassment. Under state and federal law, unlawful sexual harassment is defined as unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature, under any of the following conditions: (a) submission to such conduct is made a condition of employment, either expressly or impliedly, (b) submission to or rejection of such conduct by an individual is used as the basis for employment decisions affecting that individual, or (c) such conduct has the purpose or effect of unreasonably interfering with an individual's work performance or creating an intimidating, hostile, or offensive working environment. Now switch workplace with forum interaction. And just to add on top of this and sincee some of you assumed the worse like this banning was the cause of the illumantii , lets take this paranoid assuming the worst ideal and apply it to sexual harasment on a forum. What is the worst form of sexual harassment you can imagine that can take place on this forum?? Now like you did earilier assume it happened! oh wait what you dont want to? lol, im over it. |
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please find your way to your hearts and lets forgive if there is enything to forgive i send my open hand out out ALL and hope to toutch your hearts peace and free falling ... would you rather be right or happy {Louise Hay } |
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You go Mr commentator....(Bill O'Reilly would be proud) while I continue to digest the bile from all that "gall"....again And as any good politically motivated commontator...let's dodge the issue all together. As the post was in answer to a statement made by a member that was as follows.... Quote:
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Pity all this has kicked off. I have been a 'now and then' lurker on the forum. I have little time to read and less time to post. Most of the time I was absorbing the interviews B&K put up on PC.
I finally get the courage up to get a little more involved, spot the Thuban thread and wonder what all the fuss is about and BAMM!!! it's taken down. So I really have no idea what the content was. If the allegations are as stated by the mods, I find the removal of ALL posts by Abraxasina a little odd. Other forums remove the offending posts and leave the rest up. As for the bickering and lambasting, well... Far be it for a relative newbe to stick my oar in but if someone has a real gripe then they should take it to the site owners. Everyone is on their own paths and everyone is at their own stage of unfoldment. I don't believe myself to be very far along the path but I do see plenty of 'unenlightened' behavior here at the moment (in general - no names - just my view). Negativity is what it is and there does seem to be rather a lot around, which is a shame because it immediately makes me hesitate to post something, however there was one thing said to me during a particular ceremony I was party too several years ago. 'Fear is failure' Failure to confront your own issues with what is going on causes the aggression displayed to others. Therefore I buckle down, take the metaphorical bull by the horns and post anyway, waiting for a possible rant about my views and thoughts. Blow me, I get polite and reasonable replies. No need to fear... I have no wish to tell anyone what to do, doing so goes against my make-up, but I do think a few more 'chill pills' taken with a large dose of self reflection and meditation on why people are so narked about this issue would help. I would like to read the posts but can't. So be it. I'll read something else. Peace and love to one and all 93 93/93 Love is the Law, Love under Will Last edited by fr66ajc; 03-08-2010 at 02:40 PM. |
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What up myplanet2
My fault, BREAKING NEWS! was to extreme, lol,jk, but seriously people. I got mad compassion for the wounded. GENTLE NEWS! Boober has a lot of compassion for the wounded. If my news alert got to you, just ignore it, just like i ignore your stuff. Balance has been restored! |
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10 Ways to Build a Cult-Like Following
By JK Ellis Author of Mind Control 101 Recently I was contacted by a very successful Internet marketer who asked me what I would suggest to someone who wanted to create a cult-like following. This is right down my ally so I gave him some very good advice that he couldn't wait to put into action but the question got me thinking. What steps are there for anyone who wants people to want his/her attention and wisdom? The result are 10 ways to build a cult-like following. Of course each one of them could be a book in itself but here goes. 1. Initiation vs. Instruction There is a marked difference between learning by instruction and learning by initiation. Most people give instruction. This is nothing more than stating facts and teach processes. Any good teacher does that as well as most bad ones. Learning by initiation is about creating an experience that makes the learning personal and visceral to the student. A good example of that is the 1984 movie “The Karate Kid” . On the one hand you have the macho western karate instructor who taught his students by instruction in a skill 'n' drill process. On the other hand you have the character played by Pat Marito who says that he will teach Ralph Macchios' character karate in exchange for doing chores. But the chores must be done in a certain way “This way wax on. This way wax off.” Only later does the young hero find out that there was a method to his instructors madness and when he figured it out it made complete sense to him as if struck by a lightening bolt. There are many things that you could simply tell someone and they would intellectually understand but they wouldn't “get it” as an insight. They would only see it as information. The result is that they may use it or they may not. Teaching by initiation means holding back on simply telling what the student wants to know and instead provide an experience where the student “gets it” on their own. The subjective experience of the student is that the lesson is much more valuable because 1) they had to work for it and 2) it is felt more personally. 2. Being Accessible Someone once told me that “There are no long lines for the guru at the bottom of the hill.” Making yourself scarce adds perceived value but it also distances you from the masses. If you want a cult-like following you need access to the masses otherwise you're just an ivory tower wannabe. There is an ingenious compromise. Be accessible as a person but present your knowledge and wisdom as being rare, expensive, mysterious, and only for those who are truly ready for it. This compromise allows you to build deep personal bonds with people yet have them want more or your presence... as well as be willing to pay for it. Keep in mind that one cult leader, 2000 years ago, would speak to anyone who would listen but he granted his most sacred attention to his 12 closest disciples. You can add to this compromise by having “special times” when you are not accessible to anyone. You can tell people that you are meditating, or doing your “spiritual practice” but you don't have to say anything. It's the mystery of why you are absent that you want to cultivate. 3. Imply Secret Knowledge The role of simply remaining calm and silent will recur again in this essay so I can't understate it. Here is where silence is worth a 1000 words. Saying things like “Hmmm... There are 100 possible solutions to that within your own mind.” and nothing else implies things that you know and that they should know. 4. Remaining calm as if all-knowing Any sharp change in your emotional state, with the exception of joy and laughter, should be minimized. Any leader/teacher who goes on an angry rant is demonstrating their own lack of control. If you truly have control it should be demonstrated by an unshakable calm as if everything is happening just as you knew it would. I've always remembered that the scariest martial artist are the ones that don't talk or threaten... they calmly do what they have to do and walk away. 5. Create a detached involvement as if “you” are in a “higher place” In doing this people will look to you as if there is something more to you than your mere physical presence. 6. Connect deeply with the individual Here rapport is vital. When you are with people you need to put aside all of your distractions, obligations and problems to focus completely on the person or people you to whom you are speaking. 7. “Chunk Up” whenever possible This may be a bit abstract to grasp but it's important to creating an appeal because it forces people to think in bigger terms. When you do consistently if gives the impression that you are always thinking bigger than them. “Chunking Up” is an NLP term that means referring to something that contains what is spoken about as a subset . It can also refer to something that controls or has a larger reach than the topic at hand. As an example when a person asks “Do you enjoy adult beverages?” a chunked up response would be “There are many adult pleasures I enjoy.” Here, “beverages” is a subset of “pleasures”. Another example : Statement: “I'll go with you if you promise to control yourself.” Response “I have no intention of controlling how much I enjoy myself.” Here “control” is a subset of “Enjoyment”. 8. Always allude to the mysterious This can be done by doing the opposite of name dropping. Refer to a very skilled person you learned from who doesn't normally take students. Mention an arcane text that describes a mysterious process you went through. Mention it took you ten years of study to read between the lines and find the real meaning to the work. 9. God-Like Confidence Here is where the work of Blair Warren in “The Worlds Greatest Cult” really comes in handy. He describes what's called “The God Complex” which encompasses many of the concepts discussed here. The God Complex is a great example of “chunking up” because it's about seeing EVERYTHING that can possibly happen as if it's all part of the plan and being okay with it. The God Complex is about having such a larger view of the world and your place in it so that what you are doing, this very moment , regardless of what transpires will be as if it was meant to you be. The bottom line is that people are going to judge and criticize you; you'll have deal with money and security issues; relationships will change... no matter what. The God Complex includes all of that in a philosophy that allows you to deal with it in a healthy perspective. 10. Appeal to peoples needs and wants A deep understanding about what people truly respond to is vital if you want to influence anyone. Each individual has their own wants and needs that you have keep in the forefront of your mind. Good NLP training will help you with that. People will also respond to the same basic needs being fulfilled; the need to be needed, the need for hope in a tough time, the need to feel in control, the need blame something else for their troubles, the need to learn about something they don't know or not supposed to know. http://www.mindpowernews.com/BuildACult.htm Last edited by BROOK; 03-08-2010 at 04:36 PM. |
03-08-2010, 04:13 PM | #318 |
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Heres my take, very simple.
If its true Abrax sexually harassed somebody here or more than one person, then yes, he deserved the ban. I think the issue here is whether his Thuban thread should go on or not... I think, if the person was proven to have some malicious intent (re the harassment) then it does justify closing the thread as well, but 'not' completely deleting it from public view, unless some of the material was truly offensive and inappropriate, well then I'd agree with the last mod decision to ban OP and delete the thread, just as things are. Some of the mods apparently are not in agreement, but I have no reason to believe the harassment claims are a fabrication by any of the mods here. The problem with deleting threads without full clarification is it makes people even more curious as to the content. I think it would be better if the main Thuban thread (Q&A) were restored publicly, not necessarily opening the thread, but just to let people read the material (those who have not yet) and decide for themselves. |
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Reposting other member's sexually offensive posts is equally offensive and all such posts need to be reported to the moderators.
The Thuban thread has been moved to the moderator's area where it cannot be viewed by the members, not deleted.
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I spoke to Abrax- he only treated me with kindness and respect.
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if someone in an office..complained about her boss...should ALL employees be told?? i think there is actualy a law PREVENTING a company from sharring that info.. |
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03-08-2010, 06:05 PM | #325 |
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years ago while monitoring a site, one suspect who everyone loved because he treated everyone with kindness and respect was in private smoozing women to the point they were falling in love with him.
He would pay for them to come visit him, plane or bus ticket... well one escaped and told of her experience of being forced into prostitution. look at some of the cults that have surfaced over the last 10 years always a leader and multiple cases of child rape in the name of a higher power... I appreciate knowing the Mods were quick enough to catch it and pull it aside for an investigation myself. |
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