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Old 12-13-2009, 02:36 AM   #101
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For an example of how easy it is to discredit someone, to throw mud at someone (mud sticks), to begin the character assasination of someone please visit Bill Ryans thread to see what a great job is being done on Dr Steven Greer. A regularly used tool by the controllers is to get others to discredit an individual on open forums, because it spreads like wildfire, doubts rise in peoples minds and all manner of illogical assumptions are made. Follow on with further character assasination and BANG! there goes another poor sod. This is one method, they are several in use by the controllers in getting an individual discredited and ultimately disbelieved and forgotten.

Yes I have been requested to come in and post and keep open minds OPEN!
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Old 12-13-2009, 02:48 AM   #102
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Hi Barry,

Well Done Man and Yes we don't need personnel attacks on ones character at PC . Thoses people who question personnal sexual individuality is disgusting.

Peace to all and we live in the same the boat folks,

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Old 12-13-2009, 06:13 PM   #103
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Anyone in admin, can you please let me know what this means as I thought subs were free to whistleblowers?..................

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Old 12-13-2009, 06:42 PM   #104
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I got something like that right before the forums went public....

I'll ask someone
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:58 PM   #105
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My subscription is still active as my $1 went through today. I'm guess we have to cancel the PayPal subscriptions for those of us on monthlies?
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:27 PM   #106
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I got one today, Barry. Just ignore it. A glitch in the software- has to be dismantled. You don't pay because you are a whistleblower.

I'm curious. In what direction are you heading ? Waiting to hear more from you. Thanks.
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:00 PM   #107
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Yes I saw that character assassination of Dr Greer and I thought, who cares what his sexuality is. I guess no one told tptb that the old mindset of bigotry (whatever theme) has almost faded on this forum.

(whatever theme) - Racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia etc


Same fear/hate, different theme.
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Old 12-14-2009, 06:53 AM   #108
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Why would this "mud slinging" be something done?

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Old 12-14-2009, 07:21 AM   #109
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This is not exactly a post saying "Hey, check this out. It's the one true location of where you can go to get the ultimate disclosure information."
But instead, I feel it is related from another direction, of where this television
episode expands on the way and need for people of all races, creed, or religious belief, to realize how the political powers manipulate the common folk of the world to meet their agenda. Manipulation... Therefore, that is how I feel that this is related.
If you can't get it on your television service, you might check youtube, it should show up there.

The show is "The People Speak", on the History Channel. It's very moving and
will open your heart and your mind.

http://www.history.com/

http://www.history.com/content/people-speak
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:48 AM   #110
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I got one today, Barry. Just ignore it. A glitch in the software- has to be dismantled. You don't pay because you are a whistleblower.

I'm curious. In what direction are you heading ? Waiting to hear more from you. Thanks.
Currently they wish me to detail what has become known as my secret history.................
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For an example of how easy it is to discredit someone, to throw mud at someone (mud sticks), to begin the character assasination of someone please visit Bill Ryans thread to see what a great job is being done on Dr Steven Greer
Barry

In your opinion do you consider this ploy by Bill Ryan to discredit Dr Greer his own idea, or by generating controversy, drive more traffic here & thereby more "possible" donators?

Or, is somebody else's hand inside the glove puppet?

Apologies if this is taking this thread off track btw
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Old 12-15-2009, 02:35 PM   #112
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Barry

In your opinion do you consider this ploy by Bill Ryan to discredit Dr Greer his own idea, or by generating controversy, drive more traffic here & thereby more "possible" donators?

Or, is somebody else's hand inside the glove puppet?

Apologies if this is taking this thread off track btw
I would like to believe Bill Ryan is above such action but cannot comprehend why he openly gave those details knowing full well a s*** storm would ensue. We all know Bill and Kerry disagree with Dr Greer on certain issues but they are relative newcomers to the field and should step back when someone with more experience and knowledge states certain data. I have defended Dr Greer in the past inasmuch as being one of his witnesses and providing data he currently uses and talks about in interviews and at conferences. If someone throws mud at Greer it tends to splash on his witnesses too. The point of more traffic here is made by making the forum free again and allowing guests to view. In my opinion allowing guests to view is a big mistake as no controls on whose eyes are watching here, not all are friendly or indifferent.
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Old 12-15-2009, 02:37 PM   #113
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As requested.........THE VOICE, THE SECRET HISTORY

We can begin with the Genetic Survey, the genetic program, as detailed in original files and in filmed interviews.......THE PSI-WARS

For the sake of saving time I will not bother to recount exactly what this genetics program was as its been detailed before many times in several places besides the files. Here I will detail what occurred during my time with the program, its effects and what they had planned for those within the confines of the program. Going only by the timeline I was involved, up until age 15 in 1967, there would have been thousands of individuals going thru the process and procedures in UK alone, plus USA and Canada which no doubt would have had greater numbers.

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Old 12-15-2009, 10:36 PM   #114
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My involvement began as a young child, exact date I cannot give here but I was around the age of 4/5, so it was approx. 10 years of genetic program involvement. I have already stated the countless hospital and other establishment visits, the countless physical tests procedures etc, now I will detail the darker more clandestine side, the psychic nurturing and enhancing placed upon me and countless other children during those times. For those whom might ask, YES this program continues to this day, more widespread as other nations developed their own programs, notably the Russians and the Chinese.

Reward the child.............

Memories, later verified to extent by official files viewed in 1970's. Try and picture the scene. Sitting on a hard wooden bench in a hallway of a building. You are about 6 or 7. Frightened, sitting with other children outside a room which has become familiar to you over the past year or two as 'the room'. Across the narrow long hallway sits a nurse with a clipboard, casually tapping the pencil on the board as she sits and smiles at the very nervous children. Each waiting to be taken into that room.

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Old 12-15-2009, 10:54 PM   #115
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Its your turn, your name is called by a man whom opened the door of the room. The nurse looks at you with a motherly kind smile and escorts you inside, places you on a wooden chair facing two men on the other side of a large desk. One man dressed in a suit sits with papers and pens and constantly watches you and writes things down on his papers. The man directly in front of you is dressed as a soldier, as you get older and return here to 'the room' you realise he is an army officer. The nurse stands next to you, you are very nervous and hold your head low. The officer speaks to you asking trivia such as how are you today, that kind of thing. The nurse lifts your head with a hand under your chin so you face the officer. Sometimes you will have tears in your eyes, the officer seems to be gruff and stands for no nonsense. If you cry he asks the nurse to sort you out before the tests begin.
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:04 PM   #116
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The tests and the rewards..........

UK children in the 50's and early 60's did not have the quantity of sweets (candy) as latter generations, so a few sweets were a luxury to many, it was still an austere UK after the war even then. On the desk sat a plate with a few sweets, some small chocolate bars and others, these were the rewards for those whom concentrated and completed their tests in a satisfactory way. Each child wanted to pass their respective tests and be given a reward so each worked hard. Many failed and ended in tears as they were escorted out of the room, ready to try much harder next time.

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Old 12-15-2009, 11:30 PM   #117
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Again, try viewing this from the point of view of a frightened child of around 6 or 7. Left alone in this place by parents, the only company being other children like yourself, ages ranging from about 4 to about 14 or so. In groups re ages. You are looked after well enough but being away from home comforts plays very much on your young mind.

You sit as comfortably as you can on that hard wooden chair, facing the officer. You look at the other man as he intently watches you. You glance occasionally at that plate of goodies, almost tasting the sweets. You think you really must please them this time and come away with a sweet or two, maybe even a whole bar of chocolate if you do really well.

The tests start with small things, the officer has in front of him a paper wheel mounted on a stick, he blows on it and it revolves. He pushes it towards you a little and asks you to do the same....make it turn....not with your mouth blowing it.....but by using your mind to make it turn. He says he knows you can do it, he points to the plate of sweets. "Give it a try lad" as he smiles at you. You sit and concentrate, a few seconds go by, you feel all eyes upon you. Suddenly your mind goes to that other place and the paper wheel begins to turn, slowly at first, then as you get that strange feeling in your head the wheel turns faster and faster. The nurse has to squeeze your shoulder to make you stop as you are lost in that world far away. The officer smiles and says how clever you are. The man is writing and you are given a sweet, told to hold it and try the next test.

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Old 12-15-2009, 11:53 PM   #118
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You are pleased you have at least one sweet to take back to the dorm, but you would of course like more. The next test looks a bit more difficult. You see to one side of the desk a small table, on this sits a box of some sort with two light bulbs sticking out of the top of it. Both are lit. The officer asks you to turn them off, one at a time, with your mind. You turn in your seat as the nurse steps back behind you. You look intently at the light bulbs, your mind starts to go to that place and the strange feeling in your head starts again. The left one goes out followed by the right one. In the distance you hear the officer ask you to switch them on again, they both do so. Your mind wants to play further so you turn them on and off rapidly till you hear them shatter. The nurse squeezes your shoulder tightly as you realise what you did. You think you will shouted at by them for breaking the lightbulbs and start to fidget in the chair, close to tears. The officer claps his hands and laughs telling you that you did exceptionally well, he hands you a whole bar of chocolate telling you that you have done well, that stops the tears. You smile and say thankyou as the nurse leads you out of the room and back along the hallway to the dorm. The other children in there rush over to see what you have, you happily show them your rewards as they gather round you.

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The testing becomes more and more difficult, and even more so for the older children. Sitting on your very uncomfortable bed with itchy blankets the nurse opens the door of the dorm and calls out several names. These children are to follow her to do some special tests. We look at each other, with dread, and slowly leave the dorm and follow the nurse along the hallway, right to the end, then out of a door onto an area in the open, bright sunshine, nice and warm, and fresh air. We all smile at one another. Here we are, four small children, two boys, two girls, standing in the warm sun, smiling. We look around and see fields beyond a tall fence. Then we see the officer, the writing man and two others, these were ordinary soldiers, standing off to one side, next to a brick wall.

The officer approaches us and chats with us, ordinary basic things about being outside, lovely day, etc etc. Then asks us to try one special test and if we succeed all of the children will be rewarded with ice cream and jelly. We all look at one another and smile. The officer then asks us to hold hands and concentrate with our minds on the two soldiers standing by the brick wall. We each grab the others hand and stand there, shaking a little, nervous with what is to come. The officer smiles as he bends down to face us. He asks us if we can, as a combined group, with our minds, concentrate enough to push the two soldiers over. The girls drop hands and scream, start crying. The nurse comes over and pacifies them telling them no one is going to be hurt. Minutes later we stand holding hands and begin the test. We concentrate. My mind starts to go to that place as that feeling in my head begins. I picture the two soldiers falling over, almost being blown over. The nurse comes over and pulls us together, we stand, a bit dazed, looking towards the wall we see the two soldiers on the ground, not moving. We start to cry out and are ushered inside quickly. The soldiers we were informed later were knocked unconscious but ok. We actually managed to knock them off their feet and into the wall. It was sandwiches with ice cream and jelly for tea that day.
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G'day,

Why do some beings come though with a heightened sense of their psi potential,
whilst others, remain completely unaware? I've wondered this for a while.

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Old 12-16-2009, 09:27 AM   #121
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Watcher,

How did you come to be in this school? facility? orphanage? Did you live there? Day classes? I know in the UK it's common to send kids to boarding school. In fact, I have a close friend who's still kind of traumatized by being abandoned by her parents at a young age. (She still can't believe they didn't come see her, as they lived close by.)

Was it a special military facility?

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Old 12-16-2009, 01:40 PM   #122
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Barry where was this school/facility in the UK?I have heard of one that our family know of on the south east coast Margate. Similar things were taken place there but this was where many children were taken who contracted TB in the early 50's this of course was a just a cover up it was more like a experimentation facility.

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Old 12-16-2009, 03:23 PM   #123
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Funny/strange how many years ago, before I researched these types of forums, I had a friend of family that extensively tried to talk to me of sending my boys to UK to school. Here in the states, it's considered high society to be able to send your children out of country to be taught by UK.
The woman was well off. (Rich as hell! lol) and was going to pay to set it up for me, and all of her connections, since my mother and her were close friends.
As well as my own mother was very excited and pushing for me to do this.
My eldest son was the only one in school, at the time. John-John was in grade school. I think he may have been 6 or 7 yrs old at the time.
I refused, saying he's too young to be seperated from me, and I'd think about it for his high school years.
I seriously wonder what would have been forced upon my own boys had I agreed to such.
Knowing some of my history, Barry, what do you think?

Honestly, I'm breathing a sigh of relief that I didn't. lol. But then that sort of thing happens here also. Just that at least, I'm glad I'm here for my boys to help heal their hearts and knees when needed.
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G'day,

Why do some beings come though with a heightened sense of their psi potential,
whilst others, remain completely unaware? I've wondered this for a while.

Thanks
Hi, could be that some individuals recognise from a young age that something is different about them, as they get older they experiment, find there are things they can do that are perhaps perceived as unusual, or even paranormal. Some are more 'intune' and inside they know they have abilities and capabilities that their peers do not share. Many are unfortunately grounded, their potential never realised as they are cocooned in modern day life styles and even restrictions placed upon them by religion or peers, families, whatever.
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Watcher,

How did you come to be in this school? facility? orphanage? Did you live there? Day classes? I know in the UK it's common to send kids to boarding school. In fact, I have a close friend who's still kind of traumatized by being abandoned by her parents at a young age. (She still can't believe they didn't come see her, as they lived close by.)

Was it a special military facility?

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It is one of several regional centres, being the closest to my then home address I was taken there regularly over the course of the ten years. Sometimes just a day sometimes several days at a time, during school holidays it lasted a week or two. It is still in use today, we can refer to it as a specialised Military establishment. Yes the number of guests perusing is a concern but thats beyond my control.
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