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Old 10-07-2008, 03:59 PM   #51
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a new personality emerges with new values.
What I have experienced in this forum is a sense that I have finally found a place where I am understood, a place where I can be the real person I am, not the person society forces me to be to survive.

This is not a new personality. For the first time in five decades, I am in an environment where I may be, with the blessing of those about me, the individual I was meant to be, the real me.

There can be no greater gift in life than that. In this day and age, in this sick and twisted world, HOPE is just about all we have left. Do not take that away from us as well.

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Old 10-07-2008, 04:02 PM   #52
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Doom and Gloom can sometimes be a reaction of living in an unfair society self serving structure. It is that little voice in your head that wants justice and freedom.

There are many people that want the end of the world because they are tired of suffering. The heavier populated areas feel this tension. And 2012 opened a whole new gateway for new age people to make a living in this prison economic system.

This can be a problem, because now there is a created uprising of prophecies and predictions that may not be true. This can cause even more pain and suffering because now people are being misguided. Then you have a creation of new false religions and cults on top of the already disturbing chaotic structure of slavery.

And when these new changes occur, sooner or later, we will need to realize that we are all connected and need to work together to solve our problems. Instead of being a believer or follower, you need to become a creator.

A creator of solutions. A creator of productive heart-warming decisions that make a greater impact on your surroundings. A creator of faith. A creator of generosity. A creator of common sense.

I am temperance. Many of you may be confused with my messages thinking I am a new age hugs and kisses kind of guy. No, I am just like you. I am human. I have within myself light and dark. I choose to balance the two and look at life with compassion.

I encourage we worki together to make the world a better place.

We all have a little Doom in our lives. We all have fears that we face internally. But we still move forward into the abyss. And we will survive.
I proclaim that we must think about solutions instead of destruction. There is too much at stake to just wish everything destroyed. It takes more courage to live in Humility. And Humility will be our salvation.

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Old 10-07-2008, 04:19 PM   #53
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I agree with the sentiment. Although karmas will be eradicated and communities, states and nations occasionally pay up in bulk, the purpose of this creation is to exhaust imperfection. Annihilating civilization doesn't facilitate that. The very purpose of TV and movies, long term, is so people will be able to see the image of the Supreme Being as it is manifested on earth. Bombing civilization back to the stone age won't facilitate salvation. The real higher powers will prevent that from happening. The teacher is out of the class room, the children are acting up, but within limits. That doesn't mean significant traumas won't be happening. They will happen and continue to happen throughout the existence of the regions of matter.
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:30 PM   #54
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There is no solution.

We are slipping further and further into a state of being confounded. Utterly disoriented. Ripped from our common structures of thought and behavior.

Prepare, prepare, prepare. We will never be prepared for what is to come. That is simply not the point.

Terrence McKenna has always made this point in such elegant ways:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-50bg...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLFSz...x=0&playnext=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_WHu...x=0&playnext=1
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Old 10-07-2008, 05:10 PM   #55
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Its October 7th...

and its a beautiful day in Los Angeles... thats the best surprise of all.

We have decided that none shall prevail against our City of Angels.

Reality is what one makes of it... and this fine day I feel like spoutin' a few platitudes!:

Fear only leads to anger... Anger leads to hate... and hate is the path to the darkside.

This forum is like an onion.... when you peel away the layers, you cry.

I think that perhaps some people are actually turned on by false, fear based prophecies like that of Dr. Doom Deagle.

This is why I am leaving the forum... not enough useful information... just speculative fear & conjecture spreading like a SoCal wildfire during Santa Anna winds...

PS: Where the hell is the Robert Dean interview? Obviously his message was too positive and therefore deemed "Not Newsworthy." Does this beg the question as to the motives of K & B's information filtration tactics? Are they trying to paint a certain picture? And if so, why? HMMMMM... Could they be under subtle subconscious orders to turn lightworkers into wide eyed fear junkies... thus, disempowering them?
Are they being presented with an ever expanding parade of disinformation agents?
Once one has the big picture of the falacitic properties of living in the fear frequency, do the answers to the afforementioned questions even matter?

This is why I am setting sail for greener pastures.
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Old 10-07-2008, 05:27 PM   #56
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Accipter,

Do you have any suggestion on where lightworkers and non-doom members can go? If there is a forum for lightworkers, please post some nice links in my profile or PM me.

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Old 10-07-2008, 06:28 PM   #57
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Accipter,

Do you have any suggestion on where lightworkers and non-doom members can go? If there is a forum for lightworkers, please post some nice links in my profile or PM me.

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If you go to GLP -- make sure you know its Brainwashing city there

I'm starting to wonder that about this forum ... you get alot of the typical Brainwashing type of stuff on here -- being spammed ..

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Old 10-07-2008, 06:45 PM   #58
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And THIS thread is another 'us VS. them' position. "The Doomers" as you are labeling them (as opposed to yourself) see what is going on and are trying to come up with some practical solutions. "The Law of Attraction/Positive Thinkers/'Wise Men' are trying to mind-meld a new reality out of pure thought. (Except I study all of that, too and know that inspired action is required, as well).

But even if it weren't, couldn't you hold the THOUGHT that both the 'preparers' and the 'positive thinker-believers' positions have validity and will lead to downfall of evil selfish practices, if you truly believe that holding a mental image will do it? I've seen constant positive affirmations work miracles, so I'm certainly not one to invalidate it. But I've also seen consistent positive actions push the reality into better experience for all, too.

The DOOM has been created by folks who do not think like you and have no feelings of universal love and connectedness like you--and I'm not talking about the people on this forum, but those who manipulated in secret to create this mess, because they too separated themselves as better and more enlightened than the ones their actions destroyed. They are the ones you need to go talk to about how they 'hold' things, imo...
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:59 PM   #59
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And THIS thread is another 'us VS. them' position. "The Doomers" ...
You have Heard the phase "Sex Sells"

Well lets make a new one "Doom Sells"

Just about everyone who preaches Doom, Sells something ..

Some Sell Books, DVDs, Food Supplies, Medi, Pills, T-Shirts ...

Some do Speech Tours-- some say BUY GOLD & Silver and in the back are the ones selling you it or are affiliated with a company that does...

The list goes on ..
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All I say is .. when you hear DOOM or any sort of a Agenda - do some research - the internet is big -- use it!

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Old 10-13-2008, 09:22 PM   #60
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mmhmmm ANTI-DOOM .. the best type of DOOM there is ..

Join the Anti-Doom party ..


**heres a song to get the party started**
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da88uC3r-HA

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Old 10-13-2008, 09:54 PM   #61
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In order to understand the current situation in OUR WORLD, is balance, perhaps none of this economical, fallout is effecting you, yet still here is the clincher. Each and everyone of us are all one. What I mean is you and I every Homo sapient is related and connected. Were all made of the same stuff. For if we were not so much in common societies would not function. With morals, and other things collapsing that constrict and build the facades around our societies we begin to encumber and walk heavily we begin feeling things that were not coming ashore prior to a functional society, for those feelings were forgotten and not needed nor were they appropriate for our functional way of life. Not to be gloomy or doom like, but our World is in wonder, our way of life is in danger of changing, looking at life without Gods, or aliens or something to fear for our actions make us arrogant in the belief that we can be our own God's. On a theological level even if we handed out a bible to each and every person in the World to try to save the morals, the world is to small. When a child can connect to the internet and watch porn, when a murderer can be cleared of a murder even after he is proven guilty, when pollution is released in the air killing our planet with no responsibility's being taken, when non citizens are treated better then citizens occur via social services occur, when so many injustices occur, via greed, arrogance, or even ignorance you end up here. Right now in this moment.. The world is Humankind's conscious. I am not that surprised, and nor will I give up. I am optimistic, we ourselves are the ones making life harder. No one else. Perhaps subconsciously we are all seeking the end, the one thing certain in our life, what we all live for death. Perhaps it is our subconcious actions as a whole, as our World, reflecting via our news channels our news papers and within our souls. I dunno.. I am not ready to give up yet thou. Their is still much to do..
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:25 PM   #62
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mmhmmm ANTI-DOOM .. the best type of DOOM there is ..

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totally agree .. and kevin was right we have to become creators ..

CREATORS .. what we think, what we focus on, our actions they will create or destroy .. the doom sayers .. they are focusing on the dark ..

because the energy is changing alot of dark stuff is coming up to be lets say transmuted this is ona personal level and a group level etc etc ..

those who have nt cleared alot of their stuff .. will be feeling scared and unbalanced and be more inclined to veer towards the dark prophecies because it vibrates with the stuff they are clearing.

i know that Magli is right ..

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In order to understand the current situation in OUR WORLD, is balance, perhaps none of this economical, fallout is effecting you, yet still here is the clincher. Each and everyone of us are all one. What I mean is you and I every Homo sapient is related and connected. Were all made of the same stuff. For if we were not so much in common societies would not function. With morals, and other things collapsing that constrict and build the facades around our societies we begin to encumber and walk heavily we begin feeling things that were not coming ashore prior to a functional society, for those feelings were forgotten and not needed nor were they appropriate for our functional way of life. Not to be gloomy or doom like, but our World is in wonder, our way of life is in danger of changing, looking at life without Gods, or aliens or something to fear for our actions make us arrogant in the belief that we can be our own God's. On a theological level even if we handed out a bible to each and every person in the World to try to save the morals, the world is to small. When a child can connect to the internet and watch porn, when a murderer can be cleared of a murder even after he is proven guilty, when pollution is released in the air killing our planet with no responsibility's being taken, when non citizens are treated better then citizens occur via social services occur, when so many injustices occur, via greed, arrogance, or even ignorance you end up here. Right now in this moment.. The world is Humankind's conscious. I am not that surprised, and nor will I give up. I am optimistic, we ourselves are the ones making life harder. No one else. Perhaps subconsciously we are all seeking the end, the one thing certain in our life, what we all live for death. Perhaps it is our subconcious actions as a whole, as our World, reflecting via our news channels our news papers and within our souls. I dunno.. I am not ready to give up yet thou. Their is still much to do..
can you please break the text up i cannot read it in this format - thanks
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:31 PM   #64
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can you please break the text up i cannot read it in this format - thanks
NO, its a primative format... SIMPLE.
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ok but people cant read it
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:39 PM   #66
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ok but people cant read it
I see...

Well I can...

Its not in the queens tongue format..

yet its simple. I am sure the people I want to read it have no problems..

Why is this important? No copy and paste material here sorry...
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well i wanted to read it - but i could nt i found it hard .. but thats fine .. you chose to do whatever
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well i wanted to read it - but i could nt i found it hard .. but thats fine .. you chose to do whatever
stop looking for laws in knowledge, and you can...

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Old 10-13-2008, 11:59 PM   #69
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I go inward, and I trust myself and my own energies and Guides. They saw nothing occurring on Oct. 7th, and they were right. I therefore did no worrying about Oct. 7th, and I was right.

Dark things do go on in the world, mostly because people keep trying to give away their free will to others, and they look for others to save them, satisfy them, sedate them, to relieve them of making choices and from being responsible for those choices.

Simply put, the way out of any externally generated chaos is to shut it off and go within. Find out from yourself what you need to do, or not do, personally. Your movement or stillness will thus be perfectly tailored to the situation you are in, even if at first it may not consciously seem so. Then you either act to further it, or you do not act, and so you move along your own Middle Path.

The first key is to only act upon that which you receive clearly within yourself, and which you resonate with. The second key is to simply move in accord with what you know to be true for you. The rest will move in its own way, and with its own guidance-- others do, after all, have their own free will.

Trust yourself, and if you find that you cannot, it is of the utmost importance that you discern why you cannot, and then work diligently to improve your sense of self-acceptance. This is an entirely personal process that is individual to each: no one else's experiences or techniques are going to solve your personal dilemmas, because they are not you in your Sovereign uniqueness.

Each being already has all the wisdom they need within themselves to sort out any situation, internal or external. The innermost core of every being is neither flawed nor in need of outside authority or a stamp of approval. Doctrines which teach that individuals are inherently flawed are guilty of veiling the truth.

Therefore--

Because I personally do not wish for discord or calamity, I do not sow it, with either my thoughts or my actions.

Because I am powerful in and of myself, I have no trouble whatsoever understanding that everyone else has their own self-ruling power to make their own decisions as they see fit.

I cannot change what others do, or how they think, but I can change how I move with regard to them. While others may choose not to change, a change in my actions will certainly mean a change in the end result of a situation for me.

I am consciously choosing to lift my own vibration. I am also choosing to stay at the forum because I can personally see the need of a counterbalanced, neutral context in which discussion can take place, and I contribute to that context.

Peace,

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Old 10-14-2008, 12:37 AM   #70
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Some here bristling about asking for donations (that are probably too sparse to pay for the site) are forgetting Bill and Kerry did a HUGE amount of work and put all their findings online for free, because it was such important information. Few if any of us would be here on this nicely designed site trying to compare notes and discern best choices of actions to take on this information if they hadn't.

A totally negative response to all of this is as valid a response as any, and it allows others to test the strength of their own concepts against it. But it bemuses me why anyone judging all this info to be negative, doom and gloom leading to nothing good, would hang around on it negating the other views, which by your stated philosophy, gives it more energy even than agreeing with it. If you genuinely believe giving all this 'doom' information attention is injurious, then the obvious response is to leave the site and don't come back, don't tell anyone about it.
i couldn't agree more. very well said. i've noticed there are several posters here who repeatedly respond to posts in the way you just described, and in a manner which shows their ignorance on those topics--no matter the topic. instead of leaving the post, they go onto all the threads and write a lot of pedantic, negative things w out adding value. as michael st. claire mentioned earlier, ... it just takes a few to spoil the pot.
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i'm getting tired of reading a thread and seeing .. ARE DAMAGING THIS SITE! people who have imp info are having to waste their time by answering to these goons.

can a moderator please step in!
really ...

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i couldn't agree more. very well said. i've noticed there are several posters here who repeatedly respond to posts in the way you just described, and in a manner which shows their ignorance on those topics--no matter the topic. instead of leaving the post, they go onto all the threads and write a lot of pedantic, negative things w out adding value. as michael st. claire mentioned earlier, ... it just takes a few to spoil the pot.
dolphin this is the anti doom thread and you are one of the doomers .. so why post here if you want doom .. this is antidoom remember

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I am not selling anything, and if the message of your post is to remain calm in troubled times, I can agree. If the message of your post is to caution against jumping to conclusions, I can agree. However, if the message of your post is to conclusively state that those things are not possible, and with certainty not going to happen, then I cannot agree, for that is no better than panicking for no reason.

As an easy example, were you to tell an average citizen of Germany in 1928 that their nation was headed towards a tyranical form of government that would play a major role in the deaths of millions, they would likely and understandably scoff at the notion.

There is a subtle, but important distinction between doomsaying and turning a blind eye towards troubling developments. That fine line in the middle is to recognize something for what it is. As an easy example, a law which allows a citizen of the United States to be arrested, detained indefinetly, and not charged for a crime, merely at the whim of the executive branch, does not require hyperbole to be troubling to a keen intellect.

Again, I am not necessarily arguing with you, since I don't know the motivation behind your comments, but I don't agree with the generalization either.

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why is he the wise man ? because what he says dovetails with what you think ?

What if it does? I'm entitled to my own opinion right?
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