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Hi Bill,
Could you post what happened to the MK-Ultra conference that was suppose to be held next month? On the Project Camelot it stated it was a venue problem, what could have been the problem? Thanks in advance, Rena. Last edited by Rena; 01-12-2010 at 10:35 AM. Reason: Edited to say, my question has been answered. Also, just want to add that I got a littled worried, glad your okay Bill. |
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It has been updated to say now that conference will be pushed back at a later point this year. If you go the the conference website, they give a little bit more detail.
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01-10-2010, 06:16 PM | #603 |
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Conference is postponed (I'm one of the speakers) and several of us are suggesting it to be held in California as the Awake and Aware conference was held there with no issues from the hotel.
Our feeling is that the PTB gave warnings to the hotels- we have no proof but it was odd that 3 hotels backed out. As I mentioned before- several had a direct presence warning which may or may not have been related to speaking at the conference, and one speaker was warned and that speaker backed out of the conference. |
01-10-2010, 07:15 PM | #604 |
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Is this true?: Bill has not been heard from on this forum since Dec. 31. He stated that he would be back on the 2nd. It is now the 10th.
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01-10-2010, 08:39 PM | #605 |
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It feels to me like something is going down as nothing of any consequence has been posted on their site for quite some time either, the archives of the radio shows and blogs are way behind
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I'd be inclined to think that he's highly peed off with all the irrelevant chitter-chatter and bickering that's been prevalent on a thread that was intended as a question and answer thread. I personally would have thrown the towel in weeks ago.
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Thank You Bill And Kerry for giving me a breath of fresh air. One more thing, Bill; did you ever try that substance, from that Polish inventor, with the holes in it that allowed you to breath under water?
Zechariah 11:16 For see, I will put a sheep-keeper over the land, who will have no care for that which is cut off, and will not go in search of the wanderers, or make well what is broken, and he will not give food to that which is ill, but he will take for his food the flesh of the fat, and let their feet be broken. |
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If Bill Ryan was to throw in the towel I believe he would have told us as much, let us remember his is only one person, perhaps the holiday season has been very busy for him, but I doubt he would just leave us hanging. that's never really been his style. He is a gentleman.
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I agree with both mkspllmn and kinsuemei2 that it's not like Bill to abandon us - but all the same, I would support his decision if he has.
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what "gentleman" would've insulted and insinuated a former coleague like he did to cliff high. he's no "gentleman".
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Please forgive the long delays. Even now I don't have as much time as I wanted to respond to the backlog. But here's a start... I'm continuing to answer each question in sequence. Quote:
2) Interesting idea which I’ve heard several times before: no such thing as ‘junk’ DNA: nature is not that wasteful. (Never heard the part about two sets of vocal chords...) 3) Yes, we’d love to hook up with Jesse Ventura... he knows a lot about who are now after the Duncan O’Finioan episode last week. Quote:
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The issue is sensitive, so I’ll just say this: 1) Kerry immediately invited Clif to her radio show so that he could discuss the issues with me and her. He declined. 2) My view remains firm that Clif High should not be investigating (and drawing conclusions from) Bill Deagle’s private finances with an intention to discredit him. And this IS his intention. 3) I was physically present in the room with Henry Deacon (Arthur Neumann) when he talked with Bill Deagle for 45 minutes in early December 2007, which included a fascinating exchange about classified projects, project locations, codewords and clearances. It was the first time they had spoken. There was absolutely no doubt that the conversation was genuine and that Bill Deagle and Henry were both in the many places they stated they were. I'm personally convinced that (like Henry) Bill Deagle is well-intentioned, is a brave and principled man, and has told the truth as best as he knows it. If Clif High has a different view, he has a right to that. But in my opinion Clif would be best advised to focus on his own prognostications and to respect data revealed by other whistleblowers without going out of his way to denigrate them publicly, digging up private financial information in order to try to do so. Quote:
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The benefit (which I’d not expected) was that I uncovered details of past lives which I’d not dreamed about - going way back - and all kinds of abilities started to be enhanced: a process known as ‘negative gain’. In other words [analogy] you fix the stuck brakes on the car, and it runs better. You don’t even have to tune the engine. Gimme some Truth - John Lennon: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qn85BeeiwZo More as soon as I can - battling with snow here in Europe and I have to leave earlier than I'd planned for a journey that might be longer than expected. Very best to all - Bill |
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Hi Bill ,
Will it be put on on camelot site when Kerry is coming to UK and will she be doing any talks while here , Be great to meet her , Thanks zaina |
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Hi Bill,
I just wanted to revisit Christopher Story. I read in an earlier post that you didn't find him credible at all. I must say that a lot of his 'news' posts seem grandiose and can't possibly be true. My question just stems from the fact that Benjamin Fullford in his newest post on 1/10/10 points directly at Christopher Story's Jan 7th post saying that most of it is extremely accurate. 1. Does this new revelation give more credit to Story's information? 2. If no, does it then discredit some of Fullfords information? (I do understand his info has been starting to change and seem less credible, but I want your take.) ED 1/14/10: I see that currently Story and Fullford seem to be calling each other disinfo. Strange how two days beforehand Fullford cited Story's post as extremely credible. Maybe Story's Jan 7th post was a diamond in the rough? Strange that they've always had some corroborating info. In all, you and Kerry do an incredible job and have always resonated as heroes to everyone open enough to listen. Thanks for your dilligence and all the hard work! Much Love and appreciation Last edited by Joelness; 01-14-2010 at 07:20 PM. |
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Originally Posted by Frank Samuel View Post Hi again Bill, In your last interview you really pour out your heart, to my pleasant amazement, you are quite an advanced spiritual soul. You mention in the interview that you have memories as far back as 2,000 yrs. How did you gain these memories? Processes (which are nothing to do with hypnosis) based on the research of Ron Hubbard. They work beautifully. QUESTION FOR BILL: Hi Bill, where might one find these "processes"... are there any particular books that hubbard wrote regarding these processes that is a good place to start? I actually had asked a question regarding this earlier in this thread. Thanks. |
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Looks like there are some links and answers to your questions in the Dane Tops Interview thread.
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We co-create our future (in basic terms) and others with different intentions are trying to co-create a different future. So it’s a little like two groups of people each trying to build their sandcastle on the beach with the same pile of sand. Who wins? It’s a kind of race. Time is short because if we don’t do enough, we get the sandcastle we don’t want. We will have been out-created. Other factors: the biosphere is under threat. I wrote earlier about near-irreversible damage and (as I recall) was asked for my source. I was quoting James Lovelock's famous 1997 Rolling Stone interview here. I’m aware that Lovelock (the originator of the Gaia hypothesis) is referencing a global warming model, and this interview is two years old, but it deserves to be read carefully. Lovelock is a highly intelligent man and he’s deeply in tune with the natural cycles of the Earth. His views deserve our respect. We’re in the middle of a huge slow-motion mass extinction of species that’s extremely rapid in geological terms. Several years ago, with Kerry in the Masai Mara in Kenya, I was looking at the Mara river (the life-giving artery of the entire wonderful place) - and had a kind of vision in which in the future it had dried up and all the animals were gone. I was shocked. That really upset me - I greatly love nature and all wild places - and I can vividly remember it to this day. And some of you may know that I had a highly strange and complex ET experience 25 years ago in which I was told “The Earth is a very beautiful place. It won’t always be this way.” Those words haunt me still. I don’t believe that any future timeline is fixed, but I do think there are probabilities - something Henry Deacon used to stress each time we met with him and talked about these subjects. As Werner Erhard always used to say [my paraphrase], the danger is that we may all end up where we’re headed. I am an optimist: I’ve said many times that if we were all doomed - in a rigged game - I’d not be here this lifetime, and probably neither would you, reading this now. But my real point is that the actual enemy might be complacency. Hence my message to everyone who can listen: start doing what you came here to do - whatever that is. Quote:
The same argument applies re solipsism (the concept that you, reading this, are the only being in the universe and everything is imagined by you). It’s not disprovable, and so the only course of action is to assume the ‘video game’ is real and then start playing. That’s the only way you’ll find out more. Quote:
Kerry and I had our own planned Reality TV show (a kind of real-life X-Files, featuring a real Mulder and Scully) confirmed by one of the major networks: and then two weeks later it was abruptly canceled. This was two years ago. We assume there was a veto from higher up. We were disappointed... we would have done a great job and it would have been hugely entertaining. This is still theoretically on the cards (maybe), but we might be just too radical or dangerous for the major networks. Any mainstream conspiracy show has to have built-in plausible deniability: segments of the audience have to be able to laugh or convince themselves something is hoaxed or unreal - or else it would be too dangerous. This is related to all the arguments about “proof”. (Summary: if you can prove a conspiracy, then you become very dangerous to the accepted order. If you can’t, then you’re much less of a threat and may be allowed to drip-feed new ideas into the popular culture with a fuse always in the circuit - because without proof you can always be discredited if required.) More later Very best to all, Bill |
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Very soon after that he was overwhelmed and “taken back”. Just one data point about this (and there are many others): he called Kerry a few months ago and told her he was being tortured. Other public statements he made, especially in 2008, leave one’s eyebrows raised about his state of mind at that time. In my view (let me put it this way...) everything he’s stated publicly since our interview should be cross-checked against other information that one believes to be reliable. Leo is a good soul, but he’s sitting in the hottest part of the fire and it would be almost impossible for him not to become burned. Regarding Dan Burisch, his interviews remain on our site because we believe the bulk of the information is valuable and we’re still convinced that Dan believes everything he’s told us. The timeline 1, variant 83 information, for example, is critically important if true: and when we met with him for five hours in December 2008 after his six months sabbatical (and he really was offline for that time) everything he told us then seemed valid and credible. Dan was passionate and articulate and offered consistent, extremely detailed information about possible future events on that timeline variant. As I’ve stated elsewhere, we respect Dan and continue to regard him as a friend, though we’re not optimistic we will hear from him again. Quote:
I read Erhard’s biography [highly recommended], and realized it that ‘the Training’ was mostly based on scientology processes. I continued to work with est, but at the same time started applying scientology principles to myself. That was basically the start of my journey. I write about this a little in my previous answer on p.25. Interestingly, the prompt for my getting involved in est was my girlfriend Angi, who I first spoke about in our August 2009 interview with Arjan Bos and again in my Freedom Central interview. She was on est staff and was fairly close to some of the members of Erhard’s family. I learned an enormous amount during that period. It was after an est workshop that Angi suddenly grew two and a half inches at the age of 26, after realizing that she had an ‘investment’ in being small. That was also the time on my life when (associated with Angi) I had some of my ET encounters, and it was all rather a wild ride. I was, however, 'awake' at a fairly early age. I remember at the age of 8 (eight!) being asked to write a story at school. Everyone else wrote about their puppy dog or their day at the seaside, but I wanted to write about Ghosts and Flying Saucers. (I have no clue why, because I knew nothing about the subject at such a young age.) My teacher would not let me... my first experience of the cover-up. Cheers, Bill |
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...on a serious note...just to say unconditional respect and gratitude to you, kerry and all involved behind the scenes at camelot. as you are aware im sure, there are no coincidences, you are loved more than you know. on a lighter note...do you have more than one hat?! peace always, mikey aka bananaman
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Bill has the greatest analogies ever. I "borrow" them often because they are always so inspiring even when talking to something "scary".
You are much loved Bill.. No question.. Just my best wishes. I've waited a long time to watch you play, and as I've said in another thread.. I am enjoying the show. Thank you. In light, of love Shaynard |
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The second best thing would be to read a VERY good, balanced book about him (based on his personal experiences working shoulder-to-shoulder with Hubbard in the 70s) by Peter Moon, the author of the Montauk series of books. His book, which is basically autobiographical, is excellent. Don’t be put off by the title. The Montauk Book of the Dead 1b) What I’ve done is shared my own personal (extremely positive) experiences, and referred to the positive experiences of others. Note again that I never knew or met Hubbard and was never in the Church of Scientology - which I do NOT endorse. The Free Zone (and Ron’s Org in particular) is totally different. 2) Yes, I used to give seminars on the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), based on Carl Jung's work. I did a year of psychology at university in conjunction with my maths and physics degree. I have a high regard for Jung's work. 3) See my answer below... a lot of people are working spiritually/metaphysically to avert bad outcomes. But practical action is also needed. They go hand in hand. If one doesn't know what project to work on, work on the project which is yourself. Quote:
But humans operate by recognizing agreed-on patterns (which is what all language and music is, and most other things in life also), and are immensely susceptible to suggestion. To really analyze reverse speech, you have to listen without any front-loading (i.e. no-one telling you beforehand what you should be hearing)... and then see if what you hear (if anything) is the same as what others hear. It’s worth doing that experiment. Quote:
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Hello, Everyone:
Making up for lost time here. Kerry and I have just been on Bill Deagle's radio show, starting noon today PST. It was a good one. As you'll know, I'm not a Christian: but if you translate Dr Bill's metaphysical worldview into slightly different language (and it's a very important worldview to understand, in my opinion), we find we agree very closely indeed. Why anyone thinks he presents disinformation I genuinely don't understand. His information correlates strongly with ours (from totally separate sources). I DO understand that some people don't like him (and some people don't like us, either: that's fine). I also understand that some people think he's negative. Actually, he's not - no more than David Icke is, and Icke is someone who's equally misunderstood. But while Dr Bill packs a punch of a hard-hitting warning that might be hard to listen to sometimes, we believe it's very important. As George Green said when we interviewed him on video: If I see your car parked on the tracks and there's a train coming and I don't tell you, shame on you for not knowing: and shame on me for not telling you. The idea of my telling you is so that you can move your car: not to make you angry, irritate you, upset you, make you afraid, or interfere. Just to move your car... Quote:
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Russian UFO history parallels that of the US, for instance, and their black projects (researching torsion physics and psi phenomena, two obvious examples) match those in the US. I was once told by someone recently retired from black ops (the Bell Labs physicist I mentioned in the Freedom Central interview) that the US was in a black-technology race with the Chinese and that the Chinese were as far ahead of the public sector in spacetime physics, electronics and materials science as the Americans were. I found it easy to believe. Quote:
I know a spiritual teacher who calls them "sparkles of consciousness". These "sparkles" get together in a large super-organized group and interface with the cells and the DNA that comprise the biophysical body. The animation is the result of complex biochemical processes - together with the life force supplied by this non-physical organization. (Those of you familiar with Rupert Sheldrake's morphic fields will see a connection here, also.) The difference between you or me - and your dog - is that in you and me there's ALSO a bigger being there, which is traditionally called "your spirit" or "your soul". That's a misnomer, because of course this is actually you. You're the "driver" of your own Avatar - for those of you who've seen the movie. Our bodies are our Avatars. The whole movie is a spiritual analog. I was surprised that not that many people have commented on that. Your dog is still animated with its own life force... but there's no "big" spiritual being in it. That's the difference. A "big" spiritual being COULD inhabit your dog (i.e. "drive" it as an Avatar)... but it'd not be much fun because a dog isn't very intelligent. A dog's "processor" (its brain) is small and slow in the areas which are important to "big" beings: you might find you can run fast after rabbits and have a great sense of smell, but you'd not be able to communicate anything very well, or figure much out. So "driving" a dog as an Avatar isn't really very useful. I hope that made some sense. I might do an interview about this stuff sometime - a sort of Freedom Central part 2. But the other aspect of the answer is that animals in our world are an integral part of the biosphere that's a fantastic richness like few understand or have ever witnessed, unless they're explorers, professional biologists or marine photographers. Look at a Duckbill Platypus and you can see that this really looks like someone's science experiment. Many Earth species may be science experiments - seriously. I see multiple signs of intelligent design... but not by a Creator God (which in my opinion - and absolutely no disrespect is intended to anyone here - is sometimes an equivalent response to "I don't understand this at all, therefore I'm going to assign God as the answer.") I suspect that evolution and the diversity of species is a mixture of Darwinian evolution (not much), Lamarckian evolution (i.e. species evolve through their own intention), cosmically-triggered jumps in DNA complexity and function (as David Wilcock describes), and simple (or not-so-simple) manipulation or creation of lifeforms by ETs for whatever purpose we can only imagine... maybe just creating beautiful diversity for the aesthetic and wonderful heck of it. If I had that ability, I'd create lifeforms for fun, too... rather like the CGI designers working with James Cameron on AVATAR. But for real. I bet you didn't think your question would get this kind of answer... More tomorrow - Cheers to all, Bill Last edited by Bill Ryan; 01-12-2010 at 11:31 PM. |
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Thank you for the reply, Bill. I've been thinking about this.. and I throw this out to anyone: I believe that if there is one ET race (i.e the Annunaki) who look exactly like us, then there must have been at least one public figure in history or world leader or celebrity or someone in the ufo Community or whoever who was/is one of them. I'd go further and state that there are and have been numerous key figures in history, even today who are not exactly human... these days I'd say that we can see them on TV all the time.. Bill, do you have any info on that or do you have any suspects in that regard? I hope this question isn't silly...
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