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Old 01-25-2010, 11:13 AM   #1
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Found this...thought I would post as well as get feedback with regards to Scientology as well as the article... Good guys or bad guys?? What do you think ...? I heard from somewhere that Bill was part of the group?! Not sure if it true or not!!

If this Article is true then they must be the good guys!! yes?

Scientologists 'heal' Haiti quake victims using touch

"volunteer ministers", claiming to use the power of touch to reconnect nervous systems.

Clad in yellow T-shirts emblazoned with the logo of the controversial US-based group, smiling volunteers fan out among the injured lying under makeshift shelters in the courtyard of Port-au-Prince's General Hospital.

A wealthy private donor provided his airplane to fly in 80 volunteers from Los Angeles, along with 50 Haitian-American-doctors, in a gesture worth 400,000 dollars, said a Parisian volunteer who gave her name as Sylvie.

"We're trained as volunteer ministers, we use a process called 'assist' to follow the nervous system to reconnect the main points, to bring back communication," she said.

"When you get a sudden shock to a part of your body the energy gets stuck, so we re-establish communication within the body by touching people through their clothes, and asking people to feel the touch."

Next to her lay 22-year-old student Oscar Elweels, whose father rescued him from the basement of his school where he lay with a pillar on his leg for a day after the deadly January 12 quake.

His right leg was amputated below the knee and his left leg was severely bruised and swollen.

More than half of his fellow students died in the rubble of his school, although the rest of his family was unscathed, he said, thanking God.

"One hour ago he had no sensation in his left leg, so I explained the method to him, I touched him and after a while he said 'now I feel everything'," said Sylvie.

"Otherwise they might have had to amputate his other leg. Now his sister knows the method and she can do it."

Asked about the method being used on him, a smiling Elweels described it as "a sort of harmony between the nerves, a kind of exercise. I couldn't feel at all, but then I could."

Does he know Scientology? "Yes, it's a French organization," he said.

"All the patients are happy with the technique," said Sylvie. "But some doctors don't like the yellow T-shirts. It's a color thing," she insisted.

Another group of Scientologists distributed antibiotic pills. "The doctors said give everyone with wounds antibiotics," said Italian volunteer Marina.

Some doctors at the hospital are skeptical. One US doctor, who asked not to be named, snorted: "I didn't know touching could heal gangrene."

When asked what the Scientologists are doing here, another doctor said: "I don't know."

Do you care? "Not really," she said, wheeling an unconscious patient out of the operating room

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Old 01-25-2010, 01:05 PM   #2
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Found this...thought I would post as well as get feedback with regards to Scientology as well as the article... Good guys or bad guys?? What do you think ...? I heard from somewhere that Bill was part of the group?! Not sure if it true or not!!

If this Article is true then they must be the good guys!! yes?

Scientologists 'heal' Haiti quake victims using touch [moderator snipped long quote]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

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Healing can be done by many disciplines, the question here will be Is it true? is there any scientific information available that confirms what is happening? who are the witnesses?

Haiti people are so starved that I am sure many will be willing to say anything for money, it happens all the time in the 3rd world coutries. Hunger overrides ethics. People are even willing to sell their own children...

It could just be a very well instrumented ad in keeping with project blue beam on "miracles"

I will love to see the hard evidence

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PS this planet has the ET technology to perform "miracle" healings

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Old 01-25-2010, 01:15 PM   #3
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It could just be a very well instrumented ad in keeping with project blue beam on "miracles"

I will love to see the hard evidence

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PS this planet has the ET technology to perform "miracle" healings
Yes I have thought of this scenario... I'll do some research...Anyone have any other info regarding this please post...

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Old 01-25-2010, 01:35 PM   #4
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They are referring here to the " Touch assist "

The Touch Assist is the most widely used and probably best known assist. It was first developed in the early 1950s and has been in use ever since.

The application of Touch Assists is not limited to injuries. They are not just for the banged hand or the burned wrist. They can be done on a dull pain in the back, a constant earache, an infected boil, an upset stomach. In fact, the number of things this simple but powerful process can be applied to is unlimited!

Theory

The purpose of a Touch Assist is to reestablish communication with injured or ill body parts. It brings the person’s attention to the injured or affected body areas. This is done by repetitively touching the ill or injured person’s body and putting him into communication with the injury. His communication with it brings about recovery. The technique is based on the principle that the way to heal anything or remedy anything is to put somebody into communication with it.

Every single physical illness stems from a failure of the being to communicate with the thing or area that is ill. Prolongation of a chronic injury occurs in the absence of physical communication with the affected area or with the location of the spot of injury in the physical universe.

When attention is withdrawn from injured or ill body areas, so are circulation, nerve flows and energy. This limits nutrition to the area and prevents the drain of waste products. Some ancient healers attributed remarkable flows and qualities to the “laying on of hands.” Probably the workable element in this was simply heightening awareness of the affected area and restoring the physical communication factors. For example, if you do a Touch Assist on somebody who has a sprained wrist, you are putting him back into communication with that wrist as completely as possible.

A Touch Assist helps handle the factors of time and location when a person has been injured. Part of his attention is stuck in the past moment and place of the impact.

The assist restores the person to the present and thus permits healing to occur.

In addition to control and direction of the person’s attention, a Touch Assist also handles the factors of location and time. If a person has been injured, his attention avoids the injured or affected part but at the same time is stuck in it. He is also avoiding the location of the injury, and the person himself and the injured body part are stuck in the time of the impact. A Touch Assist permits healing to occur by restoring the person to the present and his whereabouts to some degree.

Procedure

0. Administer any first aid that may be needed before you begin the assist. For example, if the person has a bleeding wound it should be dressed as the first action.

1. Have the person sit down or lie down-whatever position will be more comfortable for him.

2. Tell him that you are going to be doing a Touch Assist and explain briefly the procedure.

Tell the person the command you will be using and ensure he understands it. The command used is “Feel my finger.”

Tell the person that he should let you know when he has done the command.

3. Give the command “Feel my finger,” then touch a point, using moderate finger pressure.

Do not touch and then give the command; that would be backwards.

Touch with only one finger. If you used two fingers the person could be confused about which he was supposed to feel.

4. Acknowledge the person by saying “Thank you” or “Okay” or “Good,” etc.

5. Continue giving the command, touching and acknowledging when the person has indicated he has done the command.

When doing a Touch Assist on a particular injured or affected area, you approach the area on a gradient and recede from it on a gradient.

You approach the injury or affected area, go away from it, approach it, go away from it, approach it closer, go away from it further, approach to a point where you are actually touching the injured or affected part and go away further. You try to follow the nerve channels of the body, which include the spine, the limbs and the various relay points like the elbows, the wrists, the back sides of the knees and the fingertips. These are the points you head for. These are all points in which the shock wave can get locked up. What you are trying to do is get a communication wave flowing again through the body, because the shock of injury stopped it.

No matter what part of the body is being helped, the areas touched should include the extremities (hands and feet) and the spine.

The touching must be balanced to both left and right sides of the body. When you have touched the person’s right big toe, you next touch the left big toe; when you have touched a point a few inches to one side of the person’s spine, you next touch the spot the same distance from the spine on the opposite side. This is important because the brain and the body’s communication system interlock. You can find that a pain in the left hand runs out (dissipates) when you touch the right hand, because the right hand has got it locked up.

In addition to handling the left and right sides of the body, the body’s back and front sides must also be addressed. In other words, if attention has been given to the front of the body, attention must also be given to the back.

The same principle applies in handling a particular body part. For instance, you might be handling an injury on the front of the right leg. Your Touch Assist would include the front of the right leg, the front of the left leg, the back of the right leg and the back of the left leg, in addition to the usual actions of handling the extremities and spine.

6. Continue the assist until the person feels better. You will notice an improvement in the person from what he says or how he looks. These are called indicators.

Indicators are conditions or circumstances arising during an assist which indicate whether it is running well or badly. When a bad condition, such as an injured hand, improves, that is a good indicator. If the pain in his hand lessened, that would be a good indicator.

A Touch Assist is continued until the person being helped has good indicators, meaning he feels better, the pain has diminished, he is happier about it, etc. He will also have a cognition.

7. When this occurs, tell the person, “End of assist.”

You may have to give Touch Assists day after day to achieve a result. On first doing a Touch Assist you might only get a small improvement. Giving another Touch Assist on the following day, you could expect a bit more improvement. Next day you may get a somatic blowing off completely. It might take many more days than this, with a Touch Assist given each day, before such a result is achieved; the point is that the number of Touch Assists you can do on the same thing is unlimited.

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Old 01-25-2010, 01:41 PM   #5
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Bill is not involved with Scientology....he talks about this in one of his recent interviews..I think the one with Freedom Central.

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This is Bill and Kerry 's position as regard the Church of Scientology as stated on camelot

http://projectcamelot.org/questions.html

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We both believe absolutely in the fundamental rights of all spiritual beings – including anyone reading these words – to liberty, freedom of thought, action, expression, and access to important information that affects them and their future directly. This is one of the key principles underlying Project Camelot.

Kerry Cassidy is not connected to any specific spiritual group. Bill Ryan is a Free Zone (Ron's Org) Scientologist, fully against and publicly opposed to the goals and modus operandi of the Church of Scientology (and, he is proud to say, named on the Church of Scientology's official Enemies List).
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It is not the assist that i question..it is the techniques used to spread the knowledge.

IMO...Everything has a balance...positive/negative...even healing.

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it is called RonsOrg, non?

it is from his original concepts i believe..

i have more respect for that perspective, then the most common perspective on scientology
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it is called RonsOrg, non?

it is from his original concepts i believe..

i have more respect for that perspective, then the most common perspective on scientology
Indeed it's called Ron's org.

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It is not the assist that i question..it is the techniques used to spread the knowledge.

IMO...Everything has a balance...positive/negative...even healing.
I agree with you Céline.
Healing to take place has to be grounded in the heart.

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Thanks for putting that one right Mudra...You hear all sorts of stories floating around these days...It gets a bit difficult to take on board which ones are TRUE...

TRUTH...bless her she always comes to surface eventually...

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Powerful words viking...

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I'm familiar with the church of Scientology's volunteer minister program. The assists themselves are beneficial. sometimes very much so. The church however uses the sending out of these "volunteer ministers" to help out in disaster areas as a marketing ploy. that's why the bright yellow jackets and T shirts. They are out looking for customers, and some good publicity.

But the individual volunteers and the assists they provide are a good service and help relieve the trauma, up to a point.
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3 simple lines from .... well here:

Maybe this is all a dream.
Well, if this is a dream which one of us is having it?

The quickest way to end a miracle is to ask it why it is... or what it wants.
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Miracles are the pulse of life, the beat, the rhythm ....

Can you feel it?
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I'm familiar with the church of Scientology's volunteer minister program. The assists themselves are beneficial. sometimes very much so. The church however uses the sending out of these "volunteer ministers" to help out in disaster areas as a marketing ploy. that's why the bright yellow jackets and T shirts. They are out looking for customers, and some good publicity.

But the individual volunteers and the assists they provide are a good service and help relieve the trauma, up to a point.
Being familiar with these materials too I concur to this.
The touch assist itself is a wonderfull tool .
I have received and given it myself on several occasions in the past and can only attest to it's beneficial effect.
I also agree to the statement that these " volunteer " ministers would be sent out in disaster areas by the Church of Scientology as a marketing ploy.
I hope though that if some are in Haiti now and using these assists they do it from their heart independant from the movement they belong to .

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3 simple lines from .... well here:

Maybe this is all a dream.
Well, if this is a dream which one of us is having it?

The quickest way to end a miracle is to ask it why it is... or what it wants.
We are dreaming it together but each one of us can wake up from it individually .

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Miracles are the pulse of life, the beat, the rhythm ....

Can you feel it?
"Miracles" stem from the notion that life follows rules (which it does), until the rules insult, or over-ride life.
At this point, life takes a leap...


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I hope though that if some are in Haiti now and using these assists they do it from their heart independant from the movement they belong to .

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This is what i am praying and hoping for..yes...sigh

Such a disgrace to use sacred knowledge for "personal" gain...
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Hi Viking,
interesting topic, I am learning Quantum - Touch which sounds like a variation of touch assist, I will let you know how works out
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The truth is Scientology is a scam. There is more than enough information freely available on the Internet now that no one should fall for it again. Sadly though, this has not proven to be the case as some still seem to put stock in the disingenuous work of Hubbard.

A good starting place would be the recent work of the St. Petersburg Times.

The Truth Rundown

A fantastic look behind the scenes of the creation of Scientology and the true life history of L. Ron Hubbard in the book Messiah or Madman?

The people in Haiti need bone surgeons and real medical doctors not Scientologists playing their silly mind games.
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The people in Haiti need bone surgeons and real medical doctors not Scientologists playing their silly mind games.
Yes ofcourse they do..

That isnt the point of this thread.

And like most organized religion, they are "Scams"but it does not mean to me that i should negate all of it...
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Yes ofcourse they do..

That isnt the point of this thread.

And like most organized religion, they are "Scams"but it does not mean to me that i should negate all of it...
Well do the research and you'll see that Scientology was a complete scam from the very start and remains so today.

You can access numerous ex-Scientist testimonies to that fact that Scientology does not work and is a dangerous scam.

To promote Scientology as valid in any regard whatsoever other than a cautionary tale ignores the preponderance of evidence freely available to anyone who cares to look for it.
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Well, for some people the church of scientology is an eye opening movement, it was this thoughtful group that aided my community in raising funds to send about 30 volunteer medical health professional to Haiti. They came thru in the clutch when the goverment declined and others just sat around watching. I never been to any of their meetings,services, or whatever you call them...but if they are out there assisting in their own way I can't complain.

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Well do the research and you'll see that Scientology was a complete scam from the very start and remains so today.

You can access numerous ex-Scientist testimonies to that fact that Scientology does not work and is a dangerous scam.

To promote Scientology as valid in any regard whatsoever other than a cautionary tale ignores the preponderance of evidence freely available to anyone who cares to look for it.
i know excactly what...who..Scientology is..

But i also know about healing.. and i believe in touch healing as a tool in these fields..not as a REMEDY...

They must be seen for what they are..i agree..

please do not assume we are not aware..
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