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Old 10-10-2009, 12:23 AM   #1
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This was just posted by a user at Alex Jones pp forum. I'll paste it here as I think it is great information.. the article mirrored many of my thoughts about the reptilian thing.

Karen or another mod sorry if this breaks the rule about pasting text, feel free to delete, I just thought it relevant and important to ponder upon.

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Hello, everyone. My name's Joel. This is the first time I've posted a new topic, so go easy on me. Just to let you know some of my background, I was basically born into the Air Force. Both my parents were Air Force. My mother got out when she got pregnant but my dad stayed in until I was 9 and retained his officer habits until I joined up myself at 17. I only did one hitch but I feel more like I was in for 21 years instead of 4. I did actually make the rank of Sergeant (E-4) before I got out. The reason I got out (and I occasionally kick myself in the ass for it -- I'd be retired now!) is because I couldn't stand the federal government bureaucracy and stupidity at my last assignment, the NSA. I was a korean linguist. I got almost 2 years of korean, korean, korean, crypto school and upgrade training. I got to actually be a korean linguist for a year. Then they sent me to NSA and cross-trained me in traffic analysis. A little over a year of that and I thought: "No more! This is bullsh*t!!!" and got out. Okay, so the point of all this is that once they trained me to take in huge quantities of seemingly random bits of disconnected information and make from these bits a cohesive, comprehensible picture, well, once I learned this I never lost the habit. I still analyze everything to death. Frequently, this is a quality that paralyzes me into inaction. Gotta analyze. But sometimes I hit on something that really fits the big picture. Here goes:

So, I was sitting at my computer this morning listening to Alex Jones interview David Icke on Youtube (TheAlexJonesChannel) and although neither of them discussed reptilians, several of the Youtube comments were about the reptilians. As I read these it struck me exactly what the reptilians are: A counter-intelligence operation. It also struck me that several posters were also bringing up that clip of Alex (from way back) saying that David Icke was full of sh*t. Now, I'd imagine all here are well aware that Alex and David have patched up their differences and that Alex has said that he agrees with about 98% of what David Icke is saying, but my second realization was that Alex was one of the first victims and key targets of this counterintelligence operation. And then the whole picture just popped into my head. Let's give this counter-intel op a name. Call it Project Lizard.

One quick preface: I think we all have a story of how we awakened to all this crazy **** that's going on. My first enlightenment into the concept that something VERY wrong has been going on was spiritual. Being analytical about everything is how I finally clued in to the details. David Icke had a spiritual awakening also and then he got analytical about it, so I think I have a good idea of where he's coming from. Now, when I listen to Alex Jones, I get the feeling his awakening was more analytical first and spiritual later on (just a feeling). The point here is that the awakening details one learns spiritually are a little different than the awakening details one learns analytically. They can even seem to contradict. Well, as Ayn Rand'll tell ya, there are no contradictions. If you find a contradiction you have to go back and re-check your premises.

Project Lizard worked like this. David Icke had a spiritual awakening. Not long thereafter, he started talking about it. People immediately started calling him a "nutter". Then David Icke started analyzing the details of the NWO, he started talking about that too. But instead of going analytical in the direction of someone like Alex Jones, who focuses more on legalities, recent world history and current events, David started analyzing ancient mythology, prophecy, symbolism, secret societies and how they all tie together. This is where the NWO scum saw their opening for Project Lizard.

You see, one of the NWO's biggest weapons is their use of symbolism. They use it to communicate with each other, hiding in plain sight. They use it to mark their property. They use it so that they can take advantage of the psychological impact, often subconscious, that symbolism has on people, especially people whose belief systems utilize symbolism as well.

For example: The NWO makes their plans specifically to mirror certain prophecies (like apocalyptic prophecies) in order to raise the overall level of fear in those whose belief systems embrace these prophecies. They also mirror prophecies in order to convert people over to belief systems that embrace these prophecies and thus raise their fear level too. Apocalyptic prophecies are scary. How can a mere man stand against demons? How can anyone hope to save their family if it's the "end times"? How can I change anything if this is all preordained by God?

What overall effect does this have? Well, if people think the end is coming, they buy guns and ammo. They buy lots of food. They stock up on medicine. And the NWO has all this in a database somewhere so they can identify the gun owners, food hoarders etc. The NWO increases fear through many means, of which apocalyptic prophecy mirroring is only one. Basically, they are trying to get us to kill each other.

Back to David Icke and Project Lizard. The NWO people saw David Icke's belief in the power of symbolism and mythology. They saw David noticing the repeated snake and reptile symbolism of the ages and decided to play him. They started sending credible seeming counter-intel operatives to David with stories of the reptilians or "shifters". Knowing how skilled these NWO scuzbags are in psychological manipulation, it is possible that the counter-intel operatives were as credible to David as they were specifically because they believed what they were telling him. Post-hypnotic suggestion, drugs, threats to life and limb, threats to family etc., etc. are ALL very persuasive in getting someone to "realize" that 2+2=5.

Basically, David was getting too close to the truth with his research into symbolism so they sent in people with misinformation that seemed to match the theme of what he was discovering. Next thing you know, David is telling people about the reptilians. From the few David Icke films I've seen, I only recall him saying that he is reporting what he has been told by others, but even so, the net result is that people believe that David Icke believes that we are being ruled by an alien race of cold-blooded monsters.

Creating this perception of David Icke and the reptilians is useful to the NWO in several ways:

It is such an unbelievable notion that if you aren't listening carefully and critically, it would lead you doubt David's credibility in other areas of the NWO scheme, the very ones about which he is absolutely correct.
It is this lack of associated incredibility that, I believe, led Alex Jones to dissociate himself from the ideas of David Icke way back when. The result: A rift between two anti-NWO leaders (a rift which has since, thank goodness, been bridged) who should have been working together all along and joining their perceptions as they do today. It is a perfect example of divide and conquer and, despite David and Alex working beautifully together now, you still see this perception of a division between the two of them on the message boards. They weren't just trying to divide Alex and David, they were trying to divide their respective audiences into opposed camps. They have actually succeeded with the latter.
The concept of humanity being ruled by cold-blooded alien monsters is scary on the same level as apocalyptic prophecy, in that folks who believe in these things are often horrified into a state of hopelessness and inaction, into a state of fear induced brain death (which is exactly the goal of the NWO). "How can you fight demons?" becomes "How can you fight alien lizard beings with superior technology and control of all cash on the planet?"

The fact of the matter is that you can't fight demons or alien lizard beings. And in that fact is our salvation from these perceived horrors. IF the NWO is SOOOO superior that they can call on actual demons and/or super-teched alien lizard beings, then they wouldn't have ever had to pull the big banking frauds, stage the mega-death inducing wars of the 20th and, now, 21st century and hypnotize us all with mainstream media pap. They could have just called on their legions of demons and lizards and taken over immediately. IF they could have won with the Nazi/Fascist "take it all by force" method, they would have. But since there really aren't any demons (except maybe those in our own souls) or superior lizard beings (except maybe the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles), they had to take the incremental Fabian socialist route. The proof that all this apocalyptic prophecy stuff and alien lizard stuff is just a bunch of counter-intel **** is in the methods that were actually adopted by the NWO. They will do anything to induce fear. Project Lizard (i.e. send hypnotized people to lie to David Icke) fits this motif perfectly.
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Old 10-10-2009, 12:27 AM   #2
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And on a side not this article also correlates well with what the hidden_hand said about icke some time ago, that many of you here have read.
http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html
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Old 10-10-2009, 02:13 AM   #3
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The logic I see here is: there couldn't be such advanced bad guys or they would already have taken over the world etc.

I've seen this argument used elsewhere.

One of the first things I intuitively realized when I saw that 9/11 was an inside job and that the entire media and establishment was covering it up, is that, if there are bad guys this big, then there HAS TO BE GOOD GUYS.

Go visit a nice waterfall, enjoy the company of some loved ones, smell the flowers.

Notice, there is beauty in our world, there is life in our world.

Yet it is pretty tough to deny that there are serious powers of darkness running the establishment right now.

This is an ancient truth. Biblical line: "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

The reality is that there are super big bad guys. It's pretty tough to argue against that point when you see a bit of what's happening in our world.

So why haven't they got full control yet?

Well first, they've got more control than you might think.

We are not supposed to be living short lives, constantly going to war, dying of dumb diseases, wasting our lives away with adictions, being drawn and here and there with negative emotions etc. as much of humanity has been doing...

Life is supposed to be a lot more than this.

They already to control our world to a large degree... but their day is up their time is done.


That's not because the people are so much stronger than them. That's because on the other side of the coin, you have the good guys. The hierarchy of God, the hierarchy of light, who sit patiently back, working 24/7 in the hidden realms to minimize the damage from the bad guys, give the people the free will experience they desire, and slowly but surely lead the people to the freedom that will set them free. These are the masters in the spiritual realm, the hosts of Angels, led by Archangel Michael and a massive team of light beings in higher realms.

We the people have continued to feed the darkness, and would have long ago destroyed ourselves by our own karmic misuse, if it was not for the forces of light continuing to take much of our karma unto themselves and transmuting it and mercy's flame being upon the people.

All the while however, we've been learning, experiencing, until finally we are ready to leave the powerlessness behind, and retake our own power. Remember who we are. Remember we are here to bring abundance to this planet. Remember we are co-creators, not victims.

And it's time for the mean greenies, the demons and the like to go face up to their misuse of energy and decide whether or not they are ready to do the work to pay back the karma or cease to exist.
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Old 10-10-2009, 02:23 AM   #4
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What's the point of trying to fight something that doesn't exist?

The people running the world are scary enough and since they're only human, they will fall before long.

It's possible that Icke got tricked but it's not something that we should discount altogether. Rather, we should stop being afraid of such mythical beings because in our minds and our consciousness, we have already defeated them (where are they?).
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Old 10-10-2009, 02:54 AM   #5
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It goes against the rules of how DNA works in this reality for a creature to shift back and forth between a reptilian and a human. That right there is the road block that makes it B.S. Now they may be working with actual extradimensional creatures that choose to appear as reptilians in the astral world. However, that is not even close to the same thing. I think that David actually believes the information he gives about the reptilians. One mans belief does not make it another mans reality.
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What's the point of trying to fight something that doesn't exist?
Do you have proof that they don't exist, because if you do, I would sure love to see it.

Noone has physical proof that they do exist of course, but then again, noone has proven they don't either.

Then again, I am referring to Reptilian beings and not specifically the shape-shifting "elite" that David Icke is talking about.
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Old 10-10-2009, 02:57 AM   #7
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David Icke's reptilians are the equivalent of the super devil.

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It goes against the rules of how DNA works in this reality for a creature to shift back and forth between a reptilian and a human. That right there is the road block that makes it B.S.
It's entirely possible that the human race doesn't understand (in this reality) exactly how our DNA truly works. I am of the opinion that there are A LOT of things about this reality in which we live that science hasn't even begun to understand. I'm just saying that it's worth noting that we most likely still have a lot to learn in the scientific realm.
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Old 10-10-2009, 03:42 AM   #9
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I beg to differ... I think I may have seen one... Not sure what it was but it looked EXACTLY like the thing in the movie Predator. And no I'm not any crazier than any of you ... Oh and that is in regards to them not existing... I may have thought I was crazy but my friend sitting next to me saw the exact same thing... How does that work???

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Old 10-10-2009, 03:53 AM   #10
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Probably most things are a mixture of fact and fiction. I have had personal experience with invisible intelligent forces which could manipulate physical objects with considerable force. I have seen countless videos and photos of unconventional antigravity craft. I have talked with very credible people who have seen UFO's. This stuff is real. However...I'm not convinced that the Queen Mother is a shape-shifting reptilian. I think Icke is close to the truth...but I don't think he has it all figured out...and he probably has been led astray on various topics...as we all have. There seems to be a huge amount of information regarding reptilian beings...including biblical texts...but I sure don't know the true nature of the phenomenon. I'm still dealing in possibilities and probabilities. Alex Jones wishes to stick to documentation and hard facts...while David Icke is willing to venture into less secure and less certain areas of research. But these nebulous areas may be the key to the whole bloody thing.
The Biggest Secret may turn out to be the Greatest Story Ever Told...which also happens to be true. This may be a large part of the truth which sets us free. I really don't think that these powerful forces (whoever or whatever they are) wish for us to figure out what the hell is going on in this planet, solar system, and universe.

I'm still waiting for a convincing explanation regarding the apparent shape-shifting at the beginning of the following video...which was posted by a supporter...rather than by someone trying to prove shape-shifting:

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Old 10-10-2009, 04:06 AM   #11
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I concur... David Icke seems a bit outrageous at times. My experience seeing this 'thing' happened about 15 yrs ago. I never got into this stuff until 3 yrs ago... So hearing David Icke talk about reptilians for the first time ever triggered a huge emotion... Was that what I saw?... Still a HUGE question for me
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Old 10-10-2009, 04:52 AM   #12
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I have had direct experiences with demons and reps. I know they cross over dimensions. The Reps hate us and view us as very inferior to them. It scares the you know what out of them when they run into an awake and aware human who does know who they (the human) really are, and acts upon that power, especially in Divine love which they cannot fathom.

This whole argument that they are not real reminds me of people I have known who also did not believe in ghosts because they had never seen one. I pointed out that maybe they have to believe to see or at least not be a person who rejects the fact they exist outright.

They say when I see one I will believe, and I tell them, when you believe or are open then you may see. I have seen them, I have talked with them in 3d, I have helped some, and some of them have helped me. It's not a daily occurance, but I when you have had the direct experiences I have had it is rather laughable when someone says they do not exist.

I don't do dog and pony shows to make believers. I use my abilities when I find them necessary, and if it helps a non-believer in these entities to come to the truth that's great, but have let go of the idea of needing to prove myself or open anyone's eyes. Those who want the truth and seek with a humble open heart will discover many things. The problem is that most people do not want to really challenge their preheld beliefs and it is easier to simply deny the existence of something.

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Good answer Unified Serenity ... I don't really care who believes me or not and have rarely told the story. I just saw it... That's it that's all... Never felt the need to justify
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Old 10-10-2009, 05:35 AM   #14
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Interesting to listen to David Icke’s interview with Kerry and Bill… he describes his beginnings as coming from a psychic! While listening to him describe his awakening it became very reminiscent of a similar type of clairvoyant-psychic friend I met in Florida and became good friends with (one of many) for several years. I do want to mention a portion of this story as I can recognize the same MO with my friend as David has described in his interview with his psychic interlude. I do not have an opinion yet as either being for or against what David Icke describes but I do have an experience to evaluate unfolding storylines from wherever they come and I can develop a foothold to compare any similarities.

The similarities were very eerie as the psychic was quite convincing of her information though I was totally a pain in her butt questioning virtually every word because the ‘things’ she spoke of were just too bizarre yet they made sense at the time. This psychic friend of mine began discussing ET’s and their counter parts Reptilians and Grey’s as does David as if she had known of them all her life. Besides that she claims they were out to get her and keep her from warning people about their presence and often was a victim of their frequency and dimensional technology even the cloaking of local buildings were pointed out. Crazier still were the clues, symbols, and businesses scattered all about the town where I had lived at the time which began to paint a picture that was surreal but yet backed up her phenomena!!! Even to watch/observe a bio-terrorist act unfold off shore and onshore one night with the players of both sides of the fence acting out their parts until the threat was dissolved… even subtle military intervention plain as day but in the wee hours of the morning were there and no one else even noticed. She was working with some other lightworkers telepathically on the freighter while we were on shore holding energy patterns until the terrorist substance became inert. Throughout the night we had to walk or drive to specific spots in advance and wait for a clue or sign before the next move, when we arrived she would describe what we had to wait for and sure enough that very scenario would unfold.

Virtually everyday for years there was an adventure unfolding and after awhile I had to really ponder if the experiences are because I am participating in her energy field and these are her frequency experiences or is she just helping to open my awareness to the things that go ‘bump in the night’ because these are experiences that occur all over under everyone’s noses but are typically unrecognizable? So I understand where David Icke comes from but is the attention to this based on the frequency energy given off by his psychic friend’s encounters/world and now he is involved with this because of his belief system being in tune with his psychic friend? Or had David Icke not become involved with his psychic friend would his eyes have been opened differently similar to how Alex Jones developed his insight?

There is much more detail to this but I just wanted to describe a quick overview in order to provide a basis of the interactions of dimensions, and frequency’s of tales from the other side according to a psychic’s/clairvoyants perception.

Out of curiosity has anyone ever heard of 'programmers' stationed at ‘Christmas’ shops, ya know the large and famous ones throughout the country? These 'programmers' seem to be greeters or employees of the shop and when children walk by them they pat them on the back of the head to hypnotize, program or mark them in some way like mind programming them for later on. And if you research who owns these famous and even not so famous Christmas shops and stores you will definitely want to take a look at all the people working in these stores this Christmas and keep an eye on your kids as they wander around the store!!! The lead they (China) put in the Christmas decorations has a significant impact on this scenario, especially the decorations that light (heat) up.

How did Christmas get brought up here?

Oh... one of the main points to coincide with Phtha's original post was there were always 'agents' around either following us or trying to nonchalantly sit near us at the coffee shop wanting to listen in. Yes they became obvious to recognize over time and even identifying the vehicles they were in became second nature! Just buy them a cup of Joe if you ever sense them... their working hard too!!!

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Out of curiosity has anyone ever heard of 'programmers' stationed at ‘Christmas’ shops, ya know the large and famous ones throughout the country? These 'programmers' seem to be greeters or employees of the shop and when children walk by them they pat them on the back of the head to hypnotize, program or mark them in some way like mind programming them for later on.

Derren Brown does this exact thing on his tv shows, the people being targeted have no idea whats happened to them or even somtimes what they have done.

I sounds like the work you have done with your friend was very intreasting!


phtha that is a intreasting concept/article you have come across. I could see exactly how project lizard would work. And how it can has split people into different camps so to speak.. Im sure this is, has, being done quite a lot... The discredit card has been pulled so many times.

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I like to stick to basics

and not get lost in details


Im a simple soul

on a road to somewhere


and to the right the angels

cheering me on


and to the left the demons

seducing me off


seven steps forward six steps back


til life fades into memory

and none can say for sure

what really happens here
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The problem is that most people do not want to really challenge their preheld beliefs and it is easier to simply deny the existence of something.
That is probably the most significant statement that I have read on these forums since I first came here. It seems to be part of the "human condition" to not want to come out from under the security blanket that each of us has had and knows all too well.

I have a quick question since you have had some experience dealing with Reptilians before. Do you happen to know if there is any truth to the various reports that they live underground, or at least a faction of them anyways?
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Awhile back I purchased David Icke's DVD interview with Credo Mutwa and his books. Having spent the time viewing and reading I've come to the conclusion that David Icke's information was all secondhand. Credo Mutwa is first hand and the more credible of the two. Therefore, Reptilians, to my mind do exist. I also know of a woman who has had I believe 6 reptialian hybrid children. I have personally communication with this woman, read her book and spent time on the telephone with her.

I'm sure there is mucho counter intel out there. I tend to go with those who have first hand experience and even then put the info through a sieve.
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I know Credo's nephew (who maintains they are real)as well as hearing an account of one of the *first* reptilian rape cases 19 years ago by Linda Howe (I was sworn to secrecy at the time- now so much has come out that it doesn't matter).
It's my belief that reptilians are a master race of geneticists and have been here long before mammalian species.

As with everything- I'm sure there are positive factions of reptoids and more malevolent factions.


I've only encountered them on ayahausca and they are not negative towards me. It's my belief some sacred plant teachers open up dimensional fields therefore allowing us to access them and their inhabitants.
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I like to stick to basics

and not get lost in details


Im a simple soul

on a road to somewhere


and to the right the angels

cheering me on


and to the left the demons

seducing me off


seven steps forward six steps back


til life fades into memory

and none can say for sure

what really happens here
Awesome poem!!!


'Demons to the left seducing me off'... Electrons leaving the negative side!

'Angels to the right cheering me on'... Electrons gathering on the positive side!

"Im a simple soul

on a road to somewhere" ... What path are your electrons taking?

"Seven steps forward six steps back" ... Either to light up life-purpose-Heart, or to short circuit life and allow the NWO to take over-"Ground Hog Day" w/Bill Murray!

Root/Ground (negative) ... Third Eye/Thought-ALL (positive) = short circuit life, or Glowing Heart of Divine Intelligence to fulfill potential!!


Red + Indigo = (no not a speeding ticket, but a great way to hide the truth in plain sight)

Every individual NEEDS to fulfill their own potential-purpose-light, that's why you get pulled over by the NWO (short circuit - distractions) if you are speeding to your destination and passing up the NWO.

Tempered Defiance creates Whole New Worlds!!!!

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That is probably the most significant statement that I have read on these forums since I first came here. It seems to be part of the "human condition" to not want to come out from under the security blanket that each of us has had and knows all too well.

I have a quick question since you have had some experience dealing with Reptilians before. Do you happen to know if there is any truth to the various reports that they live underground, or at least a faction of them anyways?
I have no first hand knowledge of them living underground. I do know they work in etheric places, and it would not surprise me that they have used 3d underground means to be here. For me it is about energy, attraction, setting off beacons in astral that they lock onto and want investigate because such people might be either useful energy tools for them or dangerous for them.

Once they know you can take care of yourself and they don't scare you they tend to stay away and hope you get bored or stay away as well. I do think various things are put into place for such in tune energy people to make their 3d lives less successful because humans don't tend to listen to poor people who cannot play the 3d game and live in high class neighborhoods running in the well to do circles. I have run in circles of the ultra rich and I know monetary poverty. My truth is my path and not being affected by outward circumstances, but to follow and work within the higher astral realms while at the same time doing my best to work here in 3d and provide a home. So much of what we see here is an illusion and very much unimportant. Sorry, I went off topic from your question. I just went where my mind took me.
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:48 PM   #22
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I watched and enjoyed the Credo Mutwa interview some time ago as well. (They are probably still on youtube if anyone is interested in watching)

To me his story came across the same way that our myths do. It is not to be taken literally, and there is a deep meaning to what is said. Credo is a great story teller that is for sure.

When Credo started talking about his personal abductions, rape by alien females, and mind control implants... it makes a good tale, much of it makes sense, and who knows it could be true... stranger things have happened I'm sure. I take it as allegory for now though.


For those in this thread that claim to have witnessed these reptilian beings first hand, Unified, Angel, and Ele, I would love to hear the experience in more detail if you could....




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Awhile back I purchased David Icke's DVD interview with Credo Mutwa and his books. Having spent the time viewing and reading I've come to the conclusion that David Icke's information was all secondhand. Credo Mutwa is first hand and the more credible of the two. Therefore, Reptilians, to my mind do exist. I also know of a woman who has had I believe 6 reptialian hybrid children. I have personally communication with this woman, read her book and spent time on the telephone with her.

I'm sure there is mucho counter intel out there. I tend to go with those who have first hand experience and even then put the info through a sieve.
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:49 PM   #23
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Unified Serenity... your Avatar is blinking!!!

May you be surrounded with an overflowing abundance of 3d material and monetary circumstances, situations, and opportunity's as you know exactly what and how to put it all to good use!!!!!!!! 3X
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:57 PM   #24
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I am not saying that there are no humanoid reptilian ETs, I am just saying that they are not fronting as mammals in Washington. I think that there are actually multiple races of reptilian humanoid ET's. Why would there only be one?
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Old 10-10-2009, 09:04 PM   #25
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Counter Intel Ops? Hmmmmm...................



To sum it up in 3 words. Impressive. NOT!

You know I'm jumping up and down over here. I can't help myself.

Project Lizard?

I'm speechless. I really don't know what to say about this thread. Maybe we ought to rename it Project Buffalo Chips. Where does this stuff come from? Maybe I ought to do like the rest of the herd and just stick my head in the sand and mumble that we have already won. Over and over, snorting and passing gas, just to make sure I can hear myself.

Don't take this the wrong way as I am having a fun day. But let me give everyone a clue. "THE EYES". Watch the eyes. I'm not talking about the pupils. I am talking about the blinking. The patterns of the blinking. They have this common trait. Look elsewhere on different interviews and watch the blinking. A bonus could be the pupils changing right before you with that other lid that comes in from 90 angles on both sides of the pupil, but the blinking is what gives it away. The flutter. Don't fall for the crying. Watch the flutter.

There are two things you should be great full of if you have a direct encounter. You're still breathing and you are surely BLESSED! Very few survive an encounter.

I'm going to stop here. Some of you know why I am stopping here.

One last little thing is an electron weighs 1/1780 of a proton. Thought that might get rid of some zeros for you.

Namaste'

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