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Old 03-09-2010, 08:07 PM   #1
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Gregg Braden Debunked (1 of 15) INTRO
youtube.com/watch?v=7rkwQgeJcFs
the2012deception.net
Notes for this video:
The 2012 Deception Presentation- (1 of 6)
youtube.com/watch?v=VaVDhOU6jLE
How 2012 "Enlightenment" Will Lead To Genocide (1 of 3)
youtube.com/watch?v=7xtN1qo9yLw


Gregg Braden Debunked (2 of 15) The Schumann Resonances
youtube.com/watch?v=zLGDOVeb5bw
Notes for this video:
quake.geo.berkeley.edu/ncedc/em.intro.html
knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Introduction_to_Geomagnetically_Trapped_Radiation/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17795213
crawford2000.co.uk/sch.htm


Gregg Braden Debunked (3 of 15) Pole Shift
youtube.com/watch?v=7CG62lSLrzk
knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Earth%27s_magnetic_field/
The Earth's magnetic field reverses at intervals, ranging from tens of thousands to hundreds of
thousands of years. It is believed that this last occurred some 600,000 years ago (Comins - DEU p.84).
The overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker at a rate which will cause the field to disappear by about 4000 AD.1 Other sources have put the date of field collapse as early as 3000 AD.
knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Introduction_to_Geomagnetically_Trapped_Radiation/
scienceblogs.com/highlyallochthonous/2009/02/is_the_earths_magnetic_field_a.php
nature.com/nature/journal/v435/n7043/full/nature03674.html
bautforum.com/conspiracy-theories/43775-pole-shift-idea-origins.html


Gregg Braden Debunked (4 of 15) The Earth Stops Rotating
youtube.com/watch?v=t9Dxu3PkYr8
notes
khouse.org/articles/2003/479/
trustbible.com/planetx.htm
creationism.org/patten/PattenMarsEarthWars/PattenMEW10.htm
creationism.org/patten/PattenMarsEarthWars/PattenMEW08.htm


Gregg Braden Debunked (5 of 15) The Photon Belt
youtube.com/watch?v=zXZqlKbzfwg
notes:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_belt
bibliotecapleyades.net/universo/esp_cinturon_fotones_15.htm
geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8148/Pleiades.html
etheric.com/LaViolette/Disinformation.html


Gregg Braden Debunked (6 of 15) The Sun's Magnetic Field
youtube.com/watch?v=QQEf89GtDiI
adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1992A&AS...92..221B
science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast15feb_1.htm
wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/ap_index_oct09.png
globalwarmingart.com/images/4/43/Solar_Cycle_Variations.png
science.nasa.gov/ssL/pad/solar/solar-b_brochure.stm


Gregg Braden Debunked (7 of 15) Quantum Physics , Entaglement, Bell's inequality EPR Paradox
youtube.com/watch?v=IFrVGYt-Y1A

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox
physlink.com/Education/askexperts/ae634.cfm
A commonly debated use of the term refers to quantum mechanics, where, if the outcome of an event has not been observed, it exists in a state of 'superposition', which is akin to being in all possible states at once. In the famous thought experiment known as Schrödinger's cat the cat is supposedly neither alive nor dead until observed. However, most quantum physicists, in resolving Schrödinger's seeming paradox, now understand that the acts of 'observation' and 'measurement' must also be defined in quantum terms before the question makes sense.
That is that the reason science must come up with a third possibility namely that the cat is neither alive or dead is because they cant mathematically detailed. And they like to be able to explain things mathematically..


Gregg Braden Debunked (8 of 15) Fraudulent Footnotes
youtube.com/watch?v=nreOOetXZJM
greggbraden.com/resources/technical_references/
twm.co.nz/DNAPhantom.htm.:
skepdic.com/plants.html
greggbraden.com/newsletter/2000.html
energygrid.com/spirit/guide/gregg-braden.html


Gregg Braden Debunked (9 of 15) The Great Red Spot
youtube.com/watch?v=pnS0BBpLBMc
adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1981AcApS...1...87X
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter#Great_Red_Spot_and_other_storms
adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1899MNRAS..59..574D


Gregg Braden Debunked (10 of 15) The Maharishi Effect
youtube.com/watch?v=uewnSF3p-No
youtube.com/watch?v=rlPiXNlhKFo
behind-the-tm-facade.org/Maharishi_Effect-mdefect-uscities-1976.htm
behind-the-tm-facade.org/mdefect-peer2.htm
behind-the-tm-facade.org/maharishi_effect-mdefect-lebanon.htm


Gregg Braden Debunked (11 of 15) The God Code
youtube.com/watch?v=jWoA0v2lyKM
energygrid.com/science/2004/03ap-godcode.html


Gregg Braden Debunked (12 of 15) Messages from Water
youtube.com/watch?v=uyp_4Ttbt6k
youtube.com/watch?v=rlPiXNlhKFo
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaru_Emoto


Gregg Braden Debunked (13 of 15) The Global Consciousness Project
youtube.com/watch?v=gxbLPDwNUPQ
skeptiko.com/73-skeptoid-brian-dunning/


Gregg Braden Debunked (14 of 15) The Council of Nicaea
youtube.com/watch?v=ngQMOBY26ck
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea
youtube.com/watch?v=mh4OoIseGGs
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4395387373297652024
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3367901243436172139


the council of nicea bible edited proof constantine rome by catholic christinas texts

Gregg Braden Debunked (15 of 15) Jesus and Conclusion
youtube.com/watch?v=SBBdNEx3RJw
dvdtract.com
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:24 PM   #2
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this thread is silly.. perhaps just not agreeing with a researchers point of veiw will sufice. although you can post anything you like of course.
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:32 PM   #3
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Hello Chris White

Ya know you can just post part 1 of 15, people here are smart enough to find the rest if they choose to.

to embed video type [youtube]zLGDOVeb5bw[/youtube and Closed with a ]

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Old 03-09-2010, 10:40 PM   #4
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Silly 1st post, know.where.to.run...

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Old 03-09-2010, 10:42 PM   #5
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Hi knowwheretorun, it's too bad that your very first post to the forum is so negative. I don't know too much about Greg Braden but until I do I don't feel it necessary to check out your links.

And by the way. welcome to Avalon.
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:54 PM   #6
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Knowwheretorun, firstly i would like to say hello and welcome

it might be a good idea to introduce yourself and meet the rest of your fellow avalonians before posting a thread showing greg brandon in a contoversal light, just a wee hint!

its a bit like turning up to a party for save the foxes and shouting tallyho!

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Old 03-10-2010, 12:51 AM   #7
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imo gregg braden is too vanilla to bother with, much less put that much effort into debunking.

anyway, welcome.
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:25 AM   #8
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imo gregg braden is too vanilla to bother with, much less put that much effort into debunking.
This was my first thought as well.

It's like 'debunking' Ram Dass or Alan Watts.

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Old 03-10-2010, 01:07 AM   #9
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Knowwheretorun, firstly i would like to say hello and welcome

it might be a good idea to introduce yourself and meet the rest of your fellow avalonians before posting a thread showing greg brandon in a contoversal light, just a wee hint!

its a bit like turning up to a party for save the foxes and shouting tallyho!

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I love your suggestion..

AS most of you here that read my few postings know I support him... IN FACT he was the first one to make me open my eyes. Then after reading his books my heart was touched. Then.... Well the flood gate was no longer able to be closed and even if you read this and do not agree with my support of his work I can still send out good positive words and thoughts.


Remember that no matter who you are or what you think you know. Life is a gift and you are here for a reason.
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:17 AM   #10
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...Remember that no matter who you are or what you think you know. Life is a gift and you are here for a reason.
Indeed. So true. It is ours to discover and I must say Gregg helps a whole lot. I have experience some of what he says. That is what I like about the Universal Laws of consciousness, you can use them and see them at work...

What saddens me is all these thread about consciousness are so unpopular even here . But it is Ok! Gives me more work!

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Old 03-10-2010, 01:18 AM   #11
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hiya chris, how's the beef with michael tsarion going? new fish to fry ol buddy ol pal? keep up the hate if you want to, but what would jesus do , eh? chris white debunked more like if there is a second coming, unlikely as that is.

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Old 03-10-2010, 01:58 AM   #12
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I love your suggestion..

AS most of you here that read my few postings know I support him... IN FACT he was the first one to make me open my eyes. Then after reading his books my heart was touched. Then.... Well the flood gate was no longer able to be closed and even if you read this and do not agree with my support of his work I can still send out good positive words and thoughts.


Remember that no matter who you are or what you think you know. Life is a gift and you are here for a reason.
Nice one Carrie

I don't care if GB is vanilla coated with fudge, I have a lot of time for him and his work. Perhaps (and I have said this of other people who are pet hates on this site) when we do just a fraction ....a teensy weensy itty bitty fraction, of what these people do, we can open our un-informed traps and start shouting SCAM !
Until then, I will continue to enjoy both his and others, works as they provide love and light in these times.
I debunk debunkers and all I say is, get a life and start to love.

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Old 03-10-2010, 04:31 AM   #13
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Hi all, Im glad to be here, I was exited to see my approval notification the other day, Im sorry that this comes off as negative, I assure you its done out of love. I really really used to believe Braden's general line myself a few years ago, I also used to think it was because it was scientifically stable.

The reason I hope that some of you watch the presentation is two fold, the first being that you will see that there is no ambiguity in regard to the wrongness of Braden here, its plainly evident, and as I state right at the outset, this is no mere nitpicking, the fundamental points of Braden's main points are unquestionably wrong (see for yourself). I chose to use him as an example because he holds many of the views I used to hold simultaneously, and therefore is a good medium in which to show the problems with many of the ideas at the same time, while also demonstrating why they are so easily believed by us. Its also set up in a way that each part is self contained, so if you see the heading of a particular part that your interested in, say for instance The Schumann Resonances, you can watch just that clip.

The second reason that I think this is important and should be attempted by you to view it as an act of genuine concern by me is because after looking over the root, or first causes of much of these specific ideas I think I stumbled over something that would (if I am right) mean that the NWO or whatever you want to call them, are actively involved in promoting the ideas for a very specific reason, please understand that this does not mean that the people themselves are "agents"..... try to think of it like a professor of economics at a state university, They are usually true believers in the model of economics they are teaching, they have been taught what to think in such a way that makes them think that it was their idea in the first place, so they are not agents per se, but they are basically performing the same function as one, this after considering the ultimate objective, which I would submit may be very different that most of us anticipate.

I try to explain this idea in a few different videos including
How 2012 "Enlightenment" Will Lead To Genocide (1 of 3)

Also in the latter part of this one I state the case much more clearly:
The 2012 Deception Presentation- (1 of 6)

Also to a lesser degree here:
My rant to the truth movement (1 of 3)
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:21 AM   #14
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Yes, alot of Greggs work is pseudoscience that he seems to have made up. Especially his book "the god code". On the other hand alot of his science is valid. I don't think he is an NWO agent, because some of his science has some shotty footnotes. I think he had some well researched material and wanted to continue to support himself by making up nonsense. The basic premise of his real research has been supported by native societies all over the planet for thousands of years. It can be found in Taoist, Buddhist, and Hindu philosophy as well among others. It's nothing new.

Chris, Ive seen your work. Your debunking Maxwell video was very well done. I don't agree with your views though, and frankly if you were the only one with the truth you'd be dead and/or replaced. Your not that well known.
We both know Alex Jones is a disinfo agent. Take a look at his views on Christianity and the new age movement. We both know the bible was rewritten and manipulated. Yes there is a move from a faction of the illuminati to say he didn't exist. At the same time there's a move from another faction (british royals) to say he did exist and left a bloodline, so they can come out and say there part of it and be basicly worshipped.

They want to make you feel powerless and scared. By making you become an atheist you are devoid of spirituality and feel powerless. By making you think there is a conspiracy run by one all powerful group where all of the members unanimously agree on all the same agendas and ideas which you have no way to stop except by buying guns and food (or even worse saying there is no way you can stop it because its been prophesied to happen an exact way) you also feel powerless and scared.

There is a massive part of the new age movement (if you want to call it that) that respects and applies biblical teaching to their life. I keep the 23rd psalm in my pocket at all times. I even call upon jesus for protection and guidance and feel I have a closer relationship and respect for him now then ever.

You do have a compassionate drive to help though, and you put in alot of hard work. I really respect you for that.

Thank You

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Old 03-10-2010, 05:35 AM   #15
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What people mostly do not understand is, that the newage movemend is a part of the illuminati program. They are allready aware of what is going come out in the future!!
so they put in there players to pick it up where and when it is needed and keep the people in confusion.

So most of the so called spiritual leaders are trained by the illuminati for this and there good in what they do.
There always talke half truths and fill in the part that looks like it is right, but most people stop questioning this by then and think there wonderfull!!!

There here to make sure you do not progress futher to more understanding!!!
and keep you busy with sweet talk!!!!
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What people mostly do not understand is, that the newage movemend is a part of the illuminati program. They are allready aware of what is going come out in the future!!
so they put in there players to pick it up where and when it is needed and keep the people in confusion.

So most of the so called spiritual leaders are trained by the illuminati for this and there good in what they do.
There always talke half truths and fill in the part that looks like it is right, but most people stop questioning this by then and think there wonderfull!!!

There here to make sure you do not progress futher to more understanding!!!
and keep you busy with sweet talk!!!!
Of course the new age movement has been infiltrated by the illuminati.

So has the conspiracy movement, the exopolitics movement, even the christian movement. I don't think that means all of them are 100% lies and disinformation.

Do you really think the illuminati didn't get to the bible or protestant christian doctrine, but the new age movement is fully under their control?

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Old 03-10-2010, 06:00 AM   #17
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Even the "everything has been infiltrated by the illuminati" movement has been infiltrated by the illuminati!

When will it end!

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Even the "everything has been infiltrated by the illuminati" movement has been infiltrated by the illuminati!

When will it end!

AJ..
It wont dear Anchor, they have too much to lose if we awaken. It is very difficult to accept but we are in a multi-universal war that started in 2000, our minds struggle to grasp that. People does not know but Earth, not humanity, Earth is prime real estate for their plans. It has to do with stargates

Personally it took me many years and a lot of money to find the truth I was seeking, but it is again not everyones truth either and I respect that

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Old 03-10-2010, 01:31 PM   #19
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Furthermore, Gregg Braden's messages are one of the most inspiring and uplifting on the internet today. What is there to debunk? Why would you want to debunk the positive and empowering ideas that he puts forth? Why would you want to argue with the fact that humanity might be entering a golden era of peace and enlightenment ?
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:53 PM   #20
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Furthermore, Gregg Braden's messages are one of the most inspiring and uplifting on the internet today. What is there to debunk? Why would you want to debunk the positive and empowering ideas that he puts forth? Why would you want to argue with the fact that humanity might be entering a golden era of peace and enlightenment ?
Agree with your post, yiolas

We all know GB is still a human and is in no way perfect.

What matters is the core message and not, "the devil is in the details".

As for me, and I suggest for everyone else here to go by this Scripture verse:
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21. Put everything to the test. Accept what is good
22. and don't have anything to do with evil.
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Agree with your post, yiolas

We all know GB is still a human and is in no way perfect.

What matters is the core message and not, "the devil is in the details".

As for me, and I suggest for everyone else here to go by this Scripture verse:

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1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 (Contemporary English Version)

21. Put everything to the test. Accept what is good
22. and don't have anything to do with evil.

Thanks for your words of wisdom truthseekerdan.
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Old 03-11-2010, 01:46 AM   #22
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Even the "everything has been infiltrated by the illuminati" movement has been infiltrated by the illuminati!

When will it end!

AJ..
and what will be even more strange is in the end they'll turn out being the good that led us forward through confusion by by forcing us to understand beyond the deceptions they created for our lessons...
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:19 AM   #23
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Thank you Chris. I will and I do have questions. But now I need to take some time off before I get back on track again. I am glad that I did not scare you with Polish expression of passion for truth. Well, I was so thrilled to see you here.
Talk to you soon.

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Old 03-12-2010, 03:33 AM   #24
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Even the "everything has been infiltrated by the illuminati" movement has been infiltrated by the illuminati!

When will it end!

AJ..
OMG HAHAHA ROFL
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Old 03-12-2010, 09:39 AM   #25
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I was impressed with your videos.

Great job!
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