God

[THE eXchanger]

- I'll bet this was a surprise to NBC.
NBC POLL

Do you believe that the word God should stay in American culture?

NBC this morning had a poll on this question.

They had the highest Number of responses that they have ever had for one of their polls, and the Percentage was the same as this:

86% to keep the words,
IN God We Trust and God in the Pledge of Allegiance

14% against

That is a pretty 'commanding' public response.

I was asked to send this on if I agreed or delete if I didn't ...

Now it is your turn. It is said that 86% of Americans believe the word God should stay.

Therefore, I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a mess about having 'In God We Trust'
on our money and having God in the Pledge of Allegiance..

Why is the world catering to this 14%?

In GOOD GOD, i trust !!!

[orthodoxymoron]

'A law passed by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by the President on July 30, 1956, the President approved a Joint Resolution of the 84th Congress, declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States. IN GOD WE TRUST was first used on paper money in 1957, when it appeared on the one-dollar silver certificate. The first paper currency bearing the motto entered circulation on October 1, 1957.' - Dept. of the Treasury website. Wasn't 1956 right around the time the U.S. was allegedly making deals with malevolent aliens? Is there any connection? Bill Cooper seemed to think so.

To me, at least, the Teachings of Jesus are the Word of God. The Word of God in the Old Testament sometimes seems to be the Word of Satan. Consider the ritual-sacrifices, conquests, and atrocities commanded by 'God'. When Satan tempted Jesus...he offered him the Kingdoms of the World...and Christ did not dispute Satan's authority. Is Satan the God of This World? Does 'In God We Trust' and 'One Nation Under God' really mean 'One Nation Under Satan, New World Order, Alien-Theocracy'? Shouldn't the national motto be 'One Nation Under the Constitution'? Does a Malevolent Alien aka Satan control this world through politics, religion, and money? Compare Leviticus 20-21(OT God) with Matthew 5-8(Jesus). Don't trust anyone or anything...even yourself. Everyone and everything should be questioned. This is freedom. The truth will set you free...but first it will make you mad, scared, and confused.

[judykott]

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=10799

If a word that starts with F offends you, don't watch. 6 minutes
After Friedrich Nietzsche declared that "God is Dead" - the word F*CK has become the most important word in the English language.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D7rWLzloOI
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I started out with nothing and still have most of it left

[THE eXchanger]

i sure hope GOOD GOD,
is alive & well, within me

it is

in god we trust, that built america

not, in allah we trust

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

i sure hope GOOD GOD,
is alive & well, within me

it is

in god we trust, that built america

not, in allah we trust

Despite my previous comment...I do believe in a GOOD GOD...but I am leaning strongly toward the concept that for now, at least, it's US(in both the physical and the astral) versus MALEVOLENT ALIENS/SPIRITS. Somehow we got into this mess a long time ago. We made our bed...and now we have to sleep in it(don't ask me about the details)! The benevolent aliens seem to be mostly non-interventionist(for now)...perhaps due to universal law. Therefore I am very suspicious of most supernatural/alien phenomenon. In a sense, I'm thinking that there is a GOOD GOD inside each of us. We are spiritual beings...and have resources which even the most seasoned guru probably doesn't know about. This is not to arrogantly say 'I AM GOD'...but rather that we don't need to beg for help. We need to utilize a magical and mystical word. That word is WORK! Inspiration and Perspiration! The focus should be on Responsibility. Was it the quest for Constitutional Responsible Freedom which built America? The founders and immigrants were sick of Theocracy and Persecution. They were as mad as hell...and they weren't going to take it anymore.

[giovonni]

There have been many great teachers,
but (I believe) the God Seed, is in all of us.
So, I guess maybe the phrase on the money should read;

I'LL TRUST YOU IF YOU TRUST ME?
or
IF WE CAN'T TRUST OURSELVES WHO CAN WE TRUST?

or maybe print our own money (with our pictures on it> saying'

TRUSTME!

[Noela]

Orthodoxymoron - I quote - "To me, at least, the
Teachings of Jesus are the Word ofGod. The
Word of God in the Old Testament sometimes seems
to be the Word of Satan. Consider the ritual-sacrifices,
conquests and atrocities commanded by 'God'.
When Satan tempted Jesus..he offered him the
kingdoms of the world..and Christ did not dispute
Satan's authority."

I could not agree more.

You could say I was born with a Bible in my hand -
strongly religious, Bible-based family (Salvation Army
actually). So there has been a lot of questioning
over the years, and of late - especially since I have
become open to discussions such as these - I have
joined you, Orthodoxymoron, in your view.

There is no way I can see the 'God' of the O.T.
as GOD - for the reasons you outline.

Lately I have (as it seems you have also) been
looking through the Gospels for what Jesus said -
or is reported to have said - regarding the O.T.
scriptures.

There is no doubt that he saw things very differently
and made his views known. It cost him his life.

For me, the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ
was (and is) victory over Satan - the God of this
world.

Jesus saw God as his Father, taught the Lord's Prayer -
'Our Father', which is a powerful invocation - said
'Our Father' saw the sparrows fall, and knew the
number of the hairs of our head, demonstrated God's
healing and compasssion. This is the God I love
and serve.

Blessings to all
Noela

[Steve_A]

Hi eXchanger,

The poll is not that suprising once you understand a little about making a poll.

First of all 86% of Americans did not say that the word God should stay. Only 86% of those who took part in the poll did. We don't know how many people took part.

If the poll was in the form of a phone in, it could be that the vast majority of public couldn't give a toss if it was or wasn't, as I'm sure that the whole viewing audience didn't take part in the poll, just the 'extremists' who have an extreme opinion about the subject and a few people that have nothing better to do at the time.

Of course this doesn't take the merit away from the question posed which would or wouldn't get a huge response depending as to where you posed the question.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by eXchanger

I'll bet this was a surprise to NBC.
NBC POLL

Do you believe that the word God should stay in American culture?

NBC this morning had a poll on this question.

They had the highest Number of responses that they have ever had for one of their polls.... It is said that 86% of Americans believe the word God should stay....

[Steve_A]

Hi eXchanger,

The word "Allah" is the perfect description of the "One God" of monotheism for Jews, Christians and Muslims!

"Allah" is the same word used by Christian Arabs and Jewish Arabs in their Bible, centuries before Islam came to be.

On page one of Genesis in the Old Testament, we find the word "Allah" seventeen times.

Read more: http://www.godallah.com/

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by eXchanger

i sure hope GOOD GOD,
is alive & well, within me

it is

in god we trust, that built america

not, in allah we trust

[Czymra]

I say we make a new word for god. I suggest 'urrtixlxl'.

[Antaletriangle]

GOD is unequivocally in every one of us-it's identifying this fact in whichever means works for the individual to identify the essence.
It's nothing to do with fighting wars or politics/territories/religions for God-this is where misunderstandings of the essence occur and distortions happen for personal gain at the expense of others,which in itself is wrong and is manipulation on an unevolved level of understanding by the participants.
The simple ways of life,i.e. digging for your snappin(food) and digging for your shelter enables the individual to become more appreciative and closer to the source which enables a more complete understanding in the nature of your own existence and an altruistic way to spiritually evolve.
We are all extensions of God:
It's like an act in a theatre;the costumes/greasepaint are our bodies and when the play is over we leave our costumes behind and the actor leaves the theatre with what he/she has learned to employ in the next play.
It's the job of the more experienced actors to provide a grounding and guidance for the new kids on the block.
Forgive my dogmatic approach!lol.

[Steve_A]

Hi Czymra,

I would normally have accepted your suggestion, but I am now a radical of the Pxititxn religion and my God should only be known as Xcxcn.

Can we start a war now?

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by Czymra

I say we make a new word for god. I suggest 'urrtixlxl'.

[Luminari]

haha sorry I had to do it

[Antaletriangle]

Yeah i am part of the....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkbq...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiDmM...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U74s8nFE7No

[AussieG]

God by any other name would be the same. It is not the name that is important but what it represents. In God (our thoughts there of) we trust. It is the definition of our thoughts that caused distention. IMO Live the life of a sovereign free will with only one law " We must not infringe upon the rights,life ,Liberty,or property of another living sole"

[Czymra]

Originally Posted by AussieG

God by any other name would be the same. It is not the name that is important but what it represents. In God (our thoughts there of) we trust. It is the definition of our thoughts that caused distention. IMO Live the life of a sovereign free will with only one law " We must not infringe upon the rights,life ,Liberty,or property of another living sole"

Yes, the golden rule and so rightly say you that one shall not speak of the lord. For the lord is not a word and the word is not the lord.

But hey, even that idea was corrupted by stoning people for saying it. How low can humanity fall?

Thanks for reminding me that my new god-word is fallible as much as any Steve_A, and eh... choose your weapon.

[orthodoxymoron]

And now...to silence all theological debate and confusion...The Word of the Lord: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap46wThyBnA. Thanks Be to God.

[Steve_A]

Hi Czymra,

As a Fulni-ô Indian once said to me, "I am a warrior of peace".

I think we (you and I) are both on the same page.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by Czymra

Yes, the golden rule and so rightly say you that one shall not speak of the lord. For the lord is not a word and the word is not the lord.

But hey, even that idea was corrupted by stoning people for saying it. How low can humanity fall?

Thanks for reminding me that my new god-word is fallible as much as any Steve_A, and eh... choose your weapon.

[Czymra]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi Czymra,

As a Fulni-ô Indian once said to me, "I am a warrior of peace".

I think we (you and I) are both on the same page.

Best regards,

Steve

Just to make sure... you aren't criticising the rainbow warriors, warriors of light, and the f***ers for virginity here are you?

[Steve_A]

Not all of them, no.

Originally Posted by Czymra

Just to make sure... you aren't criticising the rainbow warriors, warriors of light, and the f***ers for virginity here are you?

[Czymra]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Not all of them, no.

Ah, so you do have your party of choice.

[THE eXchanger]

this is a little late, but, perhaps worth sharing
it came from a friend:


I was very dismayed when, recently
a family member of mine said to me with great resignation
that Obama will take the presidency.

These words came from someone who in the past
has been a great prayer warrior.

What is happening was my question???

Why are we Christians settling and not issuing a battle cry
and falling to our knees and taking our country back?

We allow ourselves to be stripped of the right to pray
at school functions and in school.

We have the 10 commandments
removed from government places and are told we cannot pray in school,
all the while providing public prayer places for Muslims.

What in the world is going on and why are we being apathetic?

Why aren't we praying?

Our God is a mighty God who is waiting patiently for us
to raise our voices to heaven to stop the tide
of the anti-Christ actions in our world today.

Now we find we have a charismatic candidate for president/
now the president
who does not respect our flag
and we sit back and say 'it is a given, we can do nothing.'

There has never been a time in 2000 years that we can do nothing.

Never a time that we must sit back and allow

the evil in men and women's hearts to take over our world.

We should be very afraid because our apathy is leading us to perdition.

It is time for all Christian/ or GOOD GOD Americans
to raise the battle cry and take our nation back.

Maybe McCain on his own cannot defeat Obama,
but our God can and He will if we take to our knees in prayer and raise a mighty cry to the heavens to 'Save us, O Lord.'

We have the power to change the course of this election and to keep a man as suspect as Barack Obama from leading our country to who knows where with his message of 'change'...a change which I fear will be away from our Christian ideals and away from Christ and further away from one nation under God.

We are great at passing stories and pictures around the internet.

But where are our prayers and prayer warriors
praying to stop this tide of Barack Obama?

God parted the Red Sea.

Jesus raised himself from the dead.

And we can bring our country back to its Christian roots
and stop the move to the rise of Muslims in our country.

But we must begin to pray, t
o pray as if our country and our lives depend on it, because they do.

We can stop all these atrocities against God's commands
that have taken root in our country
through something as simple as sincere prayer.

A call to God to deliver us,
to forgive us our sins of apathy,
and to protect us from the evil that is upon us.

Okay prayer warriors, here is your challenge.....

Start those prayer chains.

Get the spiritual power working on our behalf and stop Barak Obama the proper way.

Call on our God to save us from the deception that charismatic preaching is using to lead us on the wrong path.

Stop those who would take God out of our country and our government.

Raise up good men to lead us and protect us.

George Bush is being buffeted because he has fought a holy war against the evils that attack us.

We should not be surprised because a prophet is not honored in his own country.

But we should not rest on our laurels and allow ourselves to be taken further off the path of Christianity and to have God removed from our presence in our schools, courts, government and businesses.

Invite God into the fray.

Ask that His power rest upon us and give us the victory.

Ask Him to raise up a mighty army to defend us and to protect our country as He did in days of old.

Let us be victorious beginning NOW.

The battle is His but we must call on Him without ceasing and unite our voices and hearts in prayer and fasting.



Please pass this around to all people of prayer that you know.
Maybe a more eloquent person of prayer
will write something better and more inspiring.

good god, if you have comments inside of you,
let them out !!!

(i do NOT agree with everything in here,
however, who am i, to change the content)
+ xxx

[Czymra]

I see you don't want to agree with all content here, wisely chosen.
I find it hilarous to read: 'Maybe McCain on his own cannot defeat Obama.'

[orthodoxymoron]

If the Ten Commandments are removed from public places...the Fascist Symbols at the front of the Senate Chambers and the Washington Monument(Penis of Osiris?), and other architectural symbols http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False...uminati/dc.htm should also be removed. If prayer is not allowed in public schools...perhaps we should not have an Ambassador to the Vatican. I thought free speech was protected. A preacher can't sermonize about politics without risking the loss of the church's tax-exempt status. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCGh-pXXk6s Why does the IRS have the right to tell a pastor/priest what to preach? Having a state church is forbidden. Is the New World Disorder Alien-Theocracy...a state church...One Nation Under Satan? The ignorance and apathy in the world is killing us...literally. Someone was asked, 'which is the worse problem in the world...ignorance or apathy?' The responder snapped, 'I don't know...and I don't care!'

[THE eXchanger]

- did you know,
that the largest group
is the 1/3 that do NOT believe in anything...

they are the ones, that ACTUALLY
hold the biggest potential to shift this planet
with their thoughts

something perhaps, to ponder

good god, we are in amasing times