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Old 09-24-2008, 07:56 AM   #1
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Default Radiant zones - times ahead





The structured back up blog thread I can offer you now is at

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=1338



Dear Friends

Here I will restructure for you in Mercury retrograde - by heart - the rationale for the spiritual imperative of Radiant ´Zones Network and give you once more the SOURCES & Resources links I had begun to collate for you last week.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...03&postcount=8
This thread from the "Read-Only-Zone" still is active, and I might park more valuable data in there.

Essentially we had discussed that for a Radiant Zone to work well it would be good to understand the dialogue between Krishnamurti & David Bohm, as presented in their famous book "The Ending of Time."

If everyone participating in such projects would be well versed in the logic of that dialogue, this would enhance the quality of a community to be founded.

We said that a radiant zone begins with the mind set. That the mind of the people involved has to be a radiant zone to begin with.

We were then going into concepts of self governance, the "structure" needed among particpants and founders of a community, and how the communities would network via the internet and other means to create new valid economies among themselves.

Time permitting we can continue here looking at spiritual as well as technical aspects of a new community.

Here is the new astrological thread for colleague astrologers to post into, commenting on current events by looking at the prevalent astro climate as it relates to finding new solutions.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3193

As soon as the read-only archives are available again, I will be able to recreate a synergy among the previous work and the continuity here.

The times ahead will necessitate a departure from conventional thought processes to be able to create a zone of higher energy with first contact to higher and future self.

Shamanic teachings are worth looking into in order to recreate a community with Elders and people able to manage a new economy, where ancient teachings and modern green technology can coexist in an integrated manner.
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:28 AM   #2
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Exelent thread, thats what our futures new comunities needs.

Thanks!

Cheers to all!
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:01 AM   #3
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Exactly my thoughts...thank you very much

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Old 09-24-2008, 12:33 PM   #4
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Default The eXchangers . . .

Dear Friends

A quick heads up for the ultra-networkers -
White Lotus Star has set up this zone here

(( This is our friend Susan - the eXchanger ))
http://the-exchangers.ning.com/ <<< check it out !!!

An unknown friend had backed up all my old threads, unbeknownst to me, what an admirable presence of mind this man had, and soon we will be able to mine again my own work more deeply in retrograde, and mirror what is useful also here at my blog update page

http://Light-Seeds.com/New.html
where much is now updated too...

A friend who watches and assist, wrote me this, and i pass it on:



I respect the frustrations, but also feel this will get quickly resolved and restored, IF, we are all 'meant' to be here working together.

I strongly recommend that individuals begin to capture their work via FireFox browser and a great accessory / add-on called ScrapBook. With one click, you can capture any web page. I have most all threads I was interested or posted to on my computer. The secondary benefit is that you can read offline with this tool.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/427

Much Peace to All,



YOU SEE this radiant zones network of telepathy is alive and well and at work
AND - Dont forget the lessons presented to us now by Mercury retrograde -
see for this also http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3193

This is the new ASTRO Thread which we will somehow finetune and integrate into mirrored web sites elsewhere so we do not get side tracked in our train of thought...

Here you can carry on sharing your views and suggestions about Radiant Zones - Times Ahead - and the spiritual implications of this proposed solution we are discussing and implementing.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:21 PM   #5
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Agree with all you are saying Michael.
If we dont evolve our way of thinking then it will all end up much the same and eventually the bows and arows would come out.
A well known definition of madness is
"Doing the same thing and expecting different results"
Thanks for all you positive input.
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Old 09-24-2008, 03:21 PM   #6
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I just want to know what everyones thoughts are on fear and love.
They are extreme opposites. I agree that in order for radiant zones to take light they need to be filled with love, peace. However you can't ignore the opposite of it: fear. Without fear, love wouldn't exist.

What are your thoughts on the Taoism concept of the balance of opposite extremes? If a bear attacks a human in the wilderness. there are two things at play: The bears' love for her cubs. therefore, she defends them. She also fears that the human poses a threat. This is the act of balance of both extremes in nature.

lets take a look at this symbol:



Many people think yin and yang are opposites and at war with eachother. That is wrong, i think. Look at the motion of the two opposites harmonizing with eachother. The harmonization of softness and hardness. Water can be soft and both HARD. A person who is strong can also be gentle. A If a weak person is gentle, it is still weakness because he/she lacks the harmony of strength.

Thoughts?
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Old 09-24-2008, 03:26 PM   #7
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Polarity.Checklist.pdf

I just opened a thread on extreme polarity.
We all are ingrained with extreme polarity.
The old paradigm is all about extreme polarity.
The shift we are experiencing now is pushing us into unity.

We could use new words to express more unity and for that end I posted this attachment.
I hope this is doing some good.

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Old 09-24-2008, 10:01 PM   #8
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Agree with all you are saying Michael.
If we dont evolve our way of thinking then it will all end up much the same and eventually the bows and arows would come out.
A well known definition of madness is
"Doing the same thing and expecting different results"
Thanks for all you positive input.
Chris --- one of ---Scottish Ground Crew. We are growing.
I agree. As Einstein said; you can't solve a problem with the same level of consciousness that created it.
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:14 PM   #9
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None of the links you posted as working (read only or not) worked for me. Are you reworking them?
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:59 PM   #10
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It seems all my threads have disappeared, see announcement by Bill Ryan.
All I was able to offer you are my web sites at http://Light-Seeds.com/New.html
plus the threads and links we were able to reconstruct in tedious work here ok-

An alternative will be built here in 3-4 weeks - http://stclairzone.ning.com/
Here i also offered a blog zone with my thoughts
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3364
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Old 09-26-2008, 08:33 AM   #11
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Default What the economy collapse means...

Found this amazing statement on a very interesting web site as this relates to both economy, radiant zones, and our times ahead. The source for the text below is from:

The Thoughts
http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/
For Awake People


((The author of this web site is among our friends here at Avalon and at my http://stclairZone.ning.com ))


"We are now riding a tide of change, and the quaking of the Materialistic World gives us indications of where that change could be heading. Western culture has built within its collective consciousness a false perspective of life.

Our economic materialistic traditions have manifested an outward look upon life, where everything external to us has a value which can be weighed or balanced. With enough time, it was only natural that such an outlook would eventually cause time, pain, suffering and even human life to be perceived in terms of a value which can be weighed or balanced.

This system has proven to be not only ineffective, but completely destructive upon the human spirit and soul.

This system, driven by complete greed and the desire for domination has been pushed beyond the threshold of what the population is capable of enduring and supporting. Most people can see this now as the house of cards is collapsing - the flaws are there for all to see.

And though the collapse will take a few more years to unfold, whilst there will no doubt be many people in denial of what is occurring, it is now a readily apparent fact; the global power system is breaking apart.

The question then, is not one of panic or fear - but rather a question of opportunity; where do we go from here?

There are a number of scenarios. As the world starts dropping the US Dollar, a new currency will need to take its place - maybe a temporary return to the gold standard. But a new currency is not enough - an entirely new system will need to be built. Will it be one that is centrally controlled, via a European Union, and a North American Union?

Or will we see a different future? An economic collapse will bring with it unimagined problems, and in this there is an opportunity to learn a great lesson; the outward external gaze of western thinking has brought us to this place.

This realization will spread across the entire planet, and slowly the trouble and suffering will cause humanity’s gaze to once again turn inwards - and with it we will have all the knowledge we have gained from the past century.

If we, as a race chose this path then we will indeed have the potential to build an amazing future."


(me, stclair, i agree with what this author wrote in the above statement.)


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Old 09-26-2008, 01:15 PM   #12
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Dear Michael st-Clair,

it is like it's coming up!
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Old 09-27-2008, 04:41 PM   #13
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I just want to know what everyones thoughts are on fear and love.
They are extreme opposites. I agree that in order for radiant zones to take light they need to be filled with love, peace. However you can't ignore the opposite of it: fear. Without fear, love wouldn't exist.


Love is often paired with fear as its natural opposite...along with hatred. Yet all these are forms of passion, so how can they be true opposites? The opposite of passion is indifference, and that's the biggest danger of all.

The opposite of fear is...courage? No, for courage without fear is simple bravado, even stupidity. The man or woman who proceeds in the face of fear is the true exemplar of courage.

Can we not love even though we fear? And why can love not exist without fear?




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Many people think yin and yang are opposites and at war with eachother. That is wrong, i think. Look at the motion of the two opposites harmonizing with eachother. The harmonization of softness and hardness. Water can be soft and both HARD. A person who is strong can also be gentle. A If a weak person is gentle, it is still weakness because he/she lacks the harmony of strength.

Thoughts?


You are certainly on the right track! I think that we obsess too much on definitions. Which is more important: the resonance of our intent, or whether we agree on the polar opposite of love? The yin-yang symbol expresses duality in balance. It expresses energy. If the wheel is all white or all black, how then can we tell if it is moving or not?

It is true that the two halves are in opposition...day/night, male/female, right/left/ active/passive, etc. But look at those pairs of words...aren't your hackles already rising a little because male/female looks so much like positive/negative? Therein lies the mystery and the challenge of duality, for instead of seeing them as opposites we must realize they are complements. They are different aspects of the same thing, not two forces at war with one another.

I invite you to consider how we mangle the idea of love. It is sad and unfortunate that our English language, so incredibly rich in linguistic gems, has only one word for love. So I must use the same word for a variety of emotions and descriptions: I love you. I love to hike. I love creamed peas. The real poverty of our language becomes clear when we turn the verb around as in, Jesus loves me. Do you love me? Who do you love more?

The Greek language has at least six words for love. We all know eros. There are words for love of country, brotherly love, and divine love which is agape. Porneia needs no translation. The Greeks were philosophers (philo=brotherly love of sophia=wisdom).

One other idea I'd like to plant: both fear and love, along with the lack thereof, are choices.

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Old 09-28-2008, 07:29 AM   #14
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Default A Radiant Zones EXperiment

Dear Friends

Thanks for your good & positive thoughts here.

Just wanted to remind those of you who were seeking for a very peaceful sanctuary, in which to discuss things in serenity, that my friends Zynox, eXchanger, and a few others from here, and I, have created a new Zone:


The St.ClairZone
http://stclairZone.ning.com
for solution-orientated people


In this new social network type setting, we have the ability for chats, and blogs, and featured videos, and we have also opened several forums, ranging from radiant zones technology to spirituality, to astro advisories, to healing, and many other aspects of sane preparations.

We have healers and experts on Oriental medicine, other astrologers, and a few techies too, who have joined. Some are discussing Krishnamurti there too.

What we do NOT discuss in there are all the "conspiratorial" and fear or disinfo-laden issues, we left that at the coat hanger when we enter that zone.

It is a varied interests zone, what we all have in common is we are outside of "right" and "wrong", free of "fear" and other unconducive things to create radiant zones. Those who had interacted with me in my threads here have now joined, and a few more are coming there to exchange their expertise and ideas. So far we have about 40 nice members there, most know each other already.

Welcome there also, if you feel you wish to contribute long term in peace.
http://stclairzone.ning.com/forum/

Here I will carry on presenting more ideas, in my blog at Avalon Forum.

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Old 09-29-2008, 04:34 AM   #15
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Nice topic.

One of my own favorite books is Krishnamurti's first book "At the Feet of the Master" which I've found quite inspiring and filled with great wisdom.

Booklet would be a more proper name than book though as it is not very big at all, but what it contains is of great size.

Quote from the introduction:
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THESE are not my words; they are the words of the Master who taught me. Without Him I could have done nothing, but through His help I have set my feet upon the Path. You also desire to enter the same Path, so the words which He spoke to me will help you also, if you will obey them. It is not enough to say that they are true and beautiful; a man who wishes to succeed must do exactly what is said. To look at food and say that it is good will not satisfy a starving man; he must put forth his hand and eat. So to hear the Master's words is not enough; you must do what He says, attending to every word, taking every hint. If a hint is not taken, if a word is missed, it is lost forever; for He does not speak twice.

Four qualifications there are for this pathway:

Discrimination

Desirelessness

Good conduct

Love

What the Master has said to me on each of these I shall try to tell you.
The full text can be read at:
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Old 10-15-2008, 06:45 AM   #16
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I agree. As Einstein said; you can't solve a problem with the same level of consciousness that created it.
great quote! I agree completely we need the new level of consciousness. Great positive thread!
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Old 10-16-2008, 07:01 AM   #17
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I just love Michael! Now here is the real deal! You don't make up **** and you are genuine. Everytime I watch you on anything you are at ease and logical and have a calm sense to your interviews. You can't make that up even with extreme intelligence. I feel like the free work you do makes a difference with all the disinformation out there. It is time some of the shenanigans should stop. Pleople should not be afraid or mislead.

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Old 10-16-2008, 07:33 AM   #18
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If everyone participating in such projects would be well versed in the logic of that dialogue, this would enhance the quality of a community to be founded.
I thought humans were already "participating in such projects"...Now humans is waiting for the end!
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:14 AM   #19
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Aha! Krishnamurti - he's never mentioned or understood nearly enough,
I'll be on amazon to get the bohm book, i've never heard of it.
His story, and teachings, are not well enough known.


Thanks for the threads, this is a great post.


Krishnamurti;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKvz3BdB2EE

Energy Alerts;

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Old 12-06-2008, 10:26 PM   #20
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Default James & Cassidy

Kerry Cassidy had her interview with the Creator of WingMakers:


We study: http://light-seeds.com/James-1.html
and
http://light-seeds.com/James-2.html - and we think again


We backed up the precious files on our sites also


Actually we better even go beyond thought íf we can manage it . . .
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Old 12-08-2008, 01:38 PM   #21
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Thank you, Michael ~

There is so much to learn from in Kerry's interview with James.

Did you hear this-- current interview --with
William Henry ~ ? It "ties in" a bit ~ He talks about
"light body activation" --- something I am becoming much more interested in ~

* ( I love it when information starts to make more sense... and "works together" in a good way ~ )

Here,
are the links to the internet radio interview with 'William Henry' :

* (I am in the 2nd hour for a few minutes.... "shy and nervous".... and have wanted to say 'so much more' .....! )

http://www.rumormillnewsradio.com/au...liamhenry1.mp3

http://www.rumormillnewsradio.com/au...liamhenry2.mp3


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