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Old 11-26-2008, 08:06 AM   #26
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Yeah, I heard a lot about his Kenian birth.

See these links for more details:


http://noiri.blogspot.com/2008/10/bo...l-general.html

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/20...ves-in-the-uk/

http://obamacrimes.com/index.php/com...n-berg-v-obama

But what we can do when Obama is the person who more money has rised in the militari-industrial complex ever?

PD: the same persons who backs Obama are the persons behind the media, Obama is the person who more money has rised betwen the bilderberg grup to(the true name of the bilderberg is the "comitee of 500" did you know? hehe).

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Old 11-26-2008, 09:51 AM   #27
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HELLO!!!

Let us tread gingerly on eggs and refrain from throwing stones when sitting in a house of glass.

There were two candidates in the race, both backed by the current overt and hidden establishment. This has been the case before, how could it be different this time?

St. Clair obviously favoured the McCain/Palin ticket. Even to the extent of squeezing an interpretation of Palin's astrological chart and pronouncing her ticket to be on the winning side. Then offering an apologetica that did not even address the salient point, namely that of him stretching his credentials as a professional astrologer a wee bit too far. And to what purpose? A McCain/Palin win would have been an equally challenging situation for those who want a real change of direction, given the McCain/Palin connection to Zionists, Jesuits, the open backing by a Rothschild, Christian Dominionism and Fundamentalism etc etc

How unbiased was this, St Clair?

If this were a local squabble, we might have just wished good luck. Since much more is at stake, let us hope that this administration develops in a more positive direction than our worst fear tries to dictate.

The world is ready for a change, but the change will have to start inside each and every one of us.
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Old 11-26-2008, 09:53 AM   #28
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I have been following both sides of the Obama issue since he and Hillary were in the spotlight together

I watched the Sinclair stuff emerge, and wondered why Hillary didn't take that and run with it. Even if it were all LIES he backlash alone could have won her the nomination.

I saw the Muslim accusations go by and nuthin

and then this birth certificate thing, again nuthin coming from the political arena

folks these are the same people who tried to connect him with terrorists organizations to win an election

yet nothing on such a simple solution as his place of birth

this issue that has seen tons of legal action throughout the election by various groups yet all were legally blocked left and right, and it is rather odd that one would desire to withhold showing their birth certificate in such an time as an election when just showing it would stop all these inquiries and accusations in the first place

even more strange is the complete lack of interest in the opposing team that has no problems saying "he rubs elbows with known terrorists"

either he has adequate credentials and they have been checked and accepted by those who would see him fail


Which is the stance many Obama defenders take, and they may very well be right and maybe there is just alot of believable dis-information floating around which is natural for a election year, we cant count out the possibility of error when emotions are high, political events such as elections are engineered to heighten people's emotional state; so personally I accept this as a possibility, and in this case Obama's actions confuse me...so I can see the propensity for suspicion and if Obama was not your pick for the presidency then of course you can compound that suspicion towards conspiracy theories; seems natural


OR


"They" are aware of his fraudulent credentials meaning there must be an agenda going on in which the opposing team is participating in as well



and if the latter is the case, then we have good cause to worry because then we are all witnessing another staged event to get someone "chosen" into office, not that this has not happened over and over already

I just read the "voice of the white house" over at tbrnews.org today. I read an aticle called A Knife in the Dark and learned that some of the angry hard core GOP "criminals" are going out and funding racists and or Obama opposing organizations to get them to do their dirty work for them by promoting deep resentment against Obama, and perhaps even pulling a trigger

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But one branch of the Imperium has decided that the best way to disrupt the President-elect and render him powerless until the next election would be to attack him on the basis of his race. Of course they could not do this directly because of the doctrine of fairness coupled with the commonly accepted beliefs in Political Correctness so they have hit on an inherently evil plan.

At a dozen meetings held in private Beltway h9omes, the D.C. Metropolitan Club and the Cosmos Club, they have determined to fund domestic racial hate groups and encourage them to do their dirty work for them. But the problem with this sort of evil mischief is that conspiracies rarely remain secret as long as more than one person knows of them. In this case of race-baiting, one of the minor plotters confided in his wife who told her very liberal sister and by this predictable means, others have learned of it.
The Klan is experiencing a major resurgence and the economy and other current domestic issues are contributing to their anger and conviction not to mention that the white race may not be the dominant race in America in another generation.

Wouldn't it just be the kicker, that the assassination of the first black American president, was already planned to be used to send everyone over the edge and create a need for the martial law they so seem to want, and all the actions that follow which we have already considered in other conspiracy theories

it would also be a great blow for internet censorship since the internet was used to incite many hate crimes, giving them a reason to further their internet regulation schemes

Hate crime legislation would be called for as a solution to the increasing tensions between black and white, the same hate crime legislation we see as conspiracy theories today

come to think of it, it could move their agenda ahead a great deal in many areas

were he assassinated it would send this nation into absolute chaos, perhaps even worse then Kennedy

we all know order comes from chaos, an order that could be viewed as salvation by the sheep?

and if they character assassinated him before the nation by removing him due to a supreme court ruling on his birth certificate, that too could suffice into sending this nation into absolute chaos as well

enough for martial law perhaps?

I'm not saying I like the man, but look at his following and the effects he has already had in the geopolitical arena, and determine the backlashes of a blow like this

all the while the people who were REALLY meant to be in office got to move in finally as originally intended, and you can tell from recent MSM news on Hillary she is already frothing at the mouth over the Sec. State position and has probably already moved her desk in the office without even having the title yet

I agree that there is alot going on here, and the birth certificate thing is a huge deal, but I think there are bigger things happening here and this new presidency is under NO such scrutiny so far, better to be asking why Palin or Hillary didn't jump on this. Palin, bless her heart, was probably pulling her hair out to keep from saying anything about it if indeed there is a conspiracy here

Suspect Obama ONLY if you will, I suspect the whole damn thing, and I am more suspicious of the WHOLE group of people who have also not called his credentials into question more than just an agenda in which just a president elect lied about his place of origin

Paranioa?

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Old 11-26-2008, 10:05 AM   #29
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Lets nominate Kerry for President in the next elections, lets check her birth certificate beforehand just in case is a forgery, we don't want to start any threads regarding the aunthenticity of the validity of her citizenship. It has occur to me that Obama might be an extraterrestial, I wonder if they have birth certificates. Obama what planet are you from ? He looks a little grey to me !!!! Now we can all rest better knowing that the president of the USA is an extraterrestial. We come in peace you earthlings!!!

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Old 11-26-2008, 11:07 AM   #30
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im sick of hearing about obama
Agreed. Can we just get on with it?
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Old 11-26-2008, 12:52 PM   #31
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Here is a new youtube video today by Dr. "Ron Polarik"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ
Give it up already.
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Old 11-26-2008, 12:54 PM   #32
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You have no intelligence in your responses, you just attack people.
And you're spreading a lie. How does it feel to do that?

Anyone can create a youtube video and claim to have dirt on another person.
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Old 11-26-2008, 01:49 PM   #33
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And again and again and again...

It is ALL imploding...no matter who is in office!

The downward spiral is already in full momentum.

Politics, the crock of lies as we know it, IS leaving the planet!

It is now up to You and Me and Our Own Higher Help!

What do You want Your Life to be?

Make it so and be it!
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:34 PM   #34
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Dear Friends...


EagleSpirit is correct with the statement here.


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And again and again and again...

It is ALL imploding...no matter who is in office!

The downward spiral is already in full momentum.

Politics, the crock of lies as we know it, IS leaving the planet!

It is now up to You and Me and Our Own Higher Help!

What do You want Your Life to be?

Make it so and be it!

Look friends, Bodhisattva is correct too, and if she has the courage to point out the elephant in the room that everyone wants to pretend does not exist, then I salute her for that fortitude. She is one of the few who does not hesitate to do what is right.

Excellent points made by HERETIC in his/her post.

I would like to add to those who keep repeating the lies about Palin that Mrs. Palin is of an Oecumenical Christianism type that has nothing at all to do with what she was accused of. Everything the media made up about her has been debunked by now.

Let it rest now. Ask yourself only this: If the mass media (controlled by you know who) attacked and smeared and slandered the Palins in such blatant ways, does that not tell you something?

We had a member here in the early days who knew the Palins for decades and he wrote about it and I posted it in threads that were deleted. Also if you know what Lindsey Williams stated about oil worldwide and oil in Alaska and connect these dots you ought to get the true picture without me stating the obvious.

I agree we can move on. Lady Bodhi, you agree? We move on? Let them figure it out....

If you want to keep goin and find out more, you can count me in to back you up. I think McCain and Palin have signalled we can let it rest, things will sort themselves out in the most surprising manners soon is all i can "predict"no pun intended...

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Old 11-26-2008, 02:57 PM   #35
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:05 PM   #36
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a friend gave me this responce.

this stuff is interesting but try not to get to wound up over it. Much of it is bad science with a clear political agenda. The Republicans and the far right do not like the current political situation at all and there crying has only just begun. Keep the faith,

Im not sure on this subject. lets say its true. then what do you all expect would happen? hillery is president? hum? gorge stays in office a while linger?

interesting.
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:25 PM   #37
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personally. I think we should line up most all of the politicians on the steps of the capital. and then hold new elections. anything less will just produce more of the same.

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Old 11-26-2008, 03:28 PM   #38
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You ought to be kidding, St. Clair! I have seen plenty of media slander on Obama, to put it mildly. It tells me that slander is standard fare in all of our media these days.

'Oecumenical Christianism' is not a very precise term. I seem to remember that Leo Zagami claimed that Oecumenism is run by the Vatican and the Jesuits, and that their meetings have weapons trading as a side show.

What I know about the Oecumenical movement, is that it has the Roman Catholic Church as a driving force. The Vatican regards all protestant groups as heretical, lost sheep that will understand that the Pope is their one and only shepherd.
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Old 11-26-2008, 04:19 PM   #39
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What would a "white hat" do if he were president? Give me an example of any political figure globally who MAY NOT be corrupt? How about Evo Morales of Bolivia. He is working on socialism, but he's a really good guy as far as I know. What is it that you are all so afraid of with Barack Obama that hasn't been done before. From kool-aid drinker to the ever SO smart all knowing ones on this thread. I still find it interesting that this info is same info blasted by right wing media. Again, these are the same people who gave us Bush/Cheney. I keep hearing how we're all doomed, and how stupid we are that we don't see it coming. What the h*ll are you talking about? What's going to happen? I've read all the conspiracies, what is the worse thing that will happen, debtor prisons, death? The amero, staged terrorists attacks, homeless, poor, hungry, broke. Most of this stuff is already happening. Why are there two threads by same poster on this issue with a video by a guy who won't even say who he is? Everytime I end a post like this I just want to erase it. Feels like such a waste of time.
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Yes I agree.

Indeed, yes there is Evo Morales to whom I dedicated a page in my book, Aquarius One and capricorn one, the tribal leader, installed elected simultaneously to the little bottle neck whale appearing in London.... and there is also Vladimir Putin and his student Medvedev, and a few more, such as Mr. Klaus, Czech President, and a few more, hidden in waiting for later. Believe it or not, and Palin is one of "us" too hidden in her "disguise." It would be best she just looks after her immediate surroundings, as we all do in our radiant zones, see Morales, Klaus, Putin, et al.
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You ought to be kidding, St. Clair! I have seen plenty of media slander on Obama, to put it mildly. It tells me that slander is standard fare in all of our media these days.

'Oecumenical Christianism' is not a very precise term. I seem to remember that Leo Zagami claimed that Oecumenism is run by the Vatican and the Jesuits, and that their meetings have weapons trading as a side show.

What I know about the Oecumenical movement, is that it has the Roman Catholic Church as a driving force. The Vatican regards all protestant groups as heretical, lost sheep that will understand that the Pope is their one and only shepherd.
Here is what I posted about Palin that Mr. St. Clair had removed from his thread. Completely mainstream, made up of video clips of her own words:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...ows-best-sarah

Oh yes, she has been slandered but this Obama ridiculousness that has gone nowhere, it is gospel.
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I have been following both sides of the Obama issue since he and Hillary were in the spotlight together

I watched the Sinclair stuff emerge, and wondered why Hillary didn't take that and run with it. Even if it were all LIES he backlash alone could have won her the nomination.

I saw the Muslim accusations go by and nuthin

and then this birth certificate thing, again nuthin coming from the political arena

folks these are the same people who tried to connect him with terrorists organizations to win an election

yet nothing on such a simple solution as his place of birth

this issue that has seen tons of legal action throughout the election by various groups yet all were legally blocked left and right, and it is rather odd that one would desire to withhold showing their birth certificate in such an time as an election when just showing it would stop all these inquiries and accusations in the first place

even more strange is the complete lack of interest in the opposing team that has no problems saying "he rubs elbows with known terrorists"

either he has adequate credentials and they have been checked and accepted by those who would see him fail


Which is the stance many Obama defenders take, and they may very well be right and maybe there is just alot of believable dis-information floating around which is natural for a election year, we cant count out the possibility of error when emotions are high, political events such as elections are engineered to heighten people's emotional state; so personally I accept this as a possibility, and in this case Obama's actions confuse me...so I can see the propensity for suspicion and if Obama was not your pick for the presidency then of course you can compound that suspicion towards conspiracy theories; seems natural


OR


"They" are aware of his fraudulent credentials meaning there must be an agenda going on in which the opposing team is participating in as well



and if the latter is the case, then we have good cause to worry because then we are all witnessing another staged event to get someone "chosen" into office, not that this has not happened over and over already

I just read the "voice of the white house" over at tbrnews.org today. I read an aticle called A Knife in the Dark and learned that some of the angry hard core GOP "criminals" are going out and funding racists and or Obama opposing organizations to get them to do their dirty work for them by promoting deep resentment against Obama, and perhaps even pulling a trigger



The Klan is experiencing a major resurgence and the economy and other current domestic issues are contributing to their anger and conviction not to mention that the white race may not be the dominant race in America in another generation.

Wouldn't it just be the kicker, that the assassination of the first black American president, was already planned to be used to send everyone over the edge and create a need for the martial law they so seem to want, and all the actions that follow which we have already considered in other conspiracy theories

it would also be a great blow for internet censorship since the internet was used to incite many hate crimes, giving them a reason to further their internet regulation schemes

Hate crime legislation would be called for as a solution to the increasing tensions between black and white, the same hate crime legislation we see as conspiracy theories today

come to think of it, it could move their agenda ahead a great deal in many areas

were he assassinated it would send this nation into absolute chaos, perhaps even worse then Kennedy

we all know order comes from chaos, an order that could be viewed as salvation by the sheep?

and if they character assassinated him before the nation by removing him due to a supreme court ruling on his birth certificate, that too could suffice into sending this nation into absolute chaos as well

enough for martial law perhaps?

I'm not saying I like the man, but look at his following and the effects he has already had in the geopolitical arena, and determine the backlashes of a blow like this

all the while the people who were REALLY meant to be in office got to move in finally as originally intended, and you can tell from recent MSM news on Hillary she is already frothing at the mouth over the Sec. State position and has probably already moved her desk in the office without even having the title yet

I agree that there is alot going on here, and the birth certificate thing is a huge deal, but I think there are bigger things happening here and this new presidency is under NO such scrutiny so far, better to be asking why Palin or Hillary didn't jump on this. Palin, bless her heart, was probably pulling her hair out to keep from saying anything about it if indeed there is a conspiracy here

Suspect Obama ONLY if you will, I suspect the whole damn thing, and I am more suspicious of the WHOLE group of people who have also not called his credentials into question more than just an agenda in which just a president elect lied about his place of origin

Paranioa?
Heretic,

Thank you for this great post. This is one of the most intelligent, well informed opinions I have read.

I too had a lot of the same reactions to the Larry Sinclair allegations, and the birth certificate questions which you point out.

Why were Clinton or McCain not running with this, and putting BO in a position to defend himself. If it where untrue, fine clear it up, onward and upward, but to not mention it at all? Far more juicy for them, than accusing BO, of "rubbing elbows with terrorists".

Also, with BO's millions of dollars to defend himself. Why not sue the pants off of Sinclair and Berg? Why after, Bo Biden, had Sinclair arrested after his press conference where SInclair outlined the gay sex and crack smoking with BO, where the charges dropped? Why is BO using his millions to hide behind lawyers in an attempt to get these charges dropped, as opposed to not hanging Berg and Sinclair out to dry.

And, most importantly, if someone were accusing you of all that is being alleged about BO. Would it not be your first reaction, to produce the VAULT BIRTH CERTIFICATE, and make every one of your accusers eat crow? That sure is what I would do, and then sue the pants off of them. The fact that BO is behaving as he is, is more than suspect. In my opinion, it is an admission of guilt.

In fact, he has already "produced" a copy of his COLB. Why not just ship a copy of that off to the judges in his defense? This makes things even more suspicious for me, as if it really were an authentic COLB as he and "fact"check claims, them show it!

But instead, we hear the argument of, "well, he does not have to"....what a crock!

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Old 11-26-2008, 05:12 PM   #43
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Thank you for the video-link, Sarahmay. It was truly good-natured fun compared to much of the visciousness heaped against Obama.

Good for you, St. Clair, that you know what is not entirely obvious to many of us about Sarah Palin and her future role. But you could just have said in the first place that you much prefer the McCain/Palin ticket. Instead you were underhanded about it, putting on yr astrologer's hat. Now you are putting on your guru's hat, saying that you have superiour spiritual knowledge that lead you to these conclusions. Maybe you do have knowledge about these persons on the political stage that allows you to be so absolutely certain. We just don't know for a fact that you do. Only the future can tell.

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EagleSpirit is correct with the statement here.





Look friends, Bodhisattva is correct too, and if she has the courage to point out the elephant in the room that everyone wants to pretend does not exist, then I salute her for that fortitude. She is one of the few who does not hesitate to do what is right.

Excellent points made by HERETIC in his/her post.

I would like to add to those who keep repeating the lies about Palin that Mrs. Palin is of an Oecumenical Christianism type that has nothing at all to do with what she was accused of. Everything the media made up about her has been debunked by now.

Let it rest now. Ask yourself only this: If the mass media (controlled by you know who) attacked and smeared and slandered the Palins in such blatant ways, does that not tell you something?

We had a member here in the early days who knew the Palins for decades and he wrote about it and I posted it in threads that were deleted. Also if you know what Lindsey Williams stated about oil worldwide and oil in Alaska and connect these dots you ought to get the true picture without me stating the obvious.

I agree we can move on. Lady Bodhi, you agree? We move on? Let them figure it out....

If you want to keep goin and find out more, you can count me in to back you up. I think McCain and Palin have signalled we can let it rest, things will sort themselves out in the most surprising manners soon is all i can "predict"no pun intended...

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Thank you Michael.

I will move on in a few weeks. Once, Dec. 1, Dec. 5 events happen with the Supreme court....then there is Dec. 15 to look forward to with the electoral college votes. Personally, I am staying tuned in to these important decisions by the officials, because I am most curious just how deep the rabbit hole goes. I want to know if there is any justice left, and if we still have a constitution. I have not come this far, to let it all go. I want to know just what kind of American Republic I live in, or if it is really an Amerika.

That being said, all folks that don't want to be here, can move on. There is nothing keeping them here.

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Old 11-26-2008, 05:47 PM   #45
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Oh boy, bodhishattva! I think people know why they are here and when it is time to go. I think what is keeping people here is the hope of an open exchange of opinions, this is what the idea of a democracy is all about.
Do you feel that those who disagree with you should not be here? That is what one may call a democratic deficit.
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Oh boy, bodhishattva! I think people know why they are here and when it is time to go. I think what is keeping people here is the hope of an open exchange of opinions, this is what the idea of a democracy is all about.
Do you feel that those who disagree with you should not be here? That is what one may call a democratic deficit.
No, I am referring to the people who post comments like, "who cares", or "move on"....I am totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog. Heretic, is a great example of that. My comments were directed at people who don't seem to care about this issue, and I question why they would bother with their comments in the first place. When I see posts I don't care about, I don't take the time to make a "who cares" comment, I do move on.
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This issue has now hit mainstream media, so it will be exposed, disproved, and hopefully people WILL move on:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...6/1689515.aspx
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Old 11-26-2008, 07:18 PM   #48
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I honestly am a obama supporter and regardless of what anyone says i think

he is going to make a good president but i did see something recently on a

underground video were a person staed the same thing as this man so i agree

that this should be looked into further

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In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961.

The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.
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No, I am referring to the people who post comments like, "who cares", or "move on"....I am totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog. Heretic, is a great example of that. My comments were directed at people who don't seem to care about this issue, and I question why they would bother with their comments in the first place. When I see posts I don't care about, I don't take the time to make a "who cares" comment, I do move on.
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Bodhisattva,

I just wanted to say thank you for standing up for what you question in life. I too have been questioning this whole "BO" thing since the beginning of this year. I have made varying posts elsewhere on this forum about this issue, but will not deter here.

I understand that many folks out there will hold on to the first glimpse of hope without questioning intentions, agenda, etc. And guess what... it looks like "tptwb" (the powers that wanna be - lower case intentional) have created the perfect "problem-reaction-solution" here (ie. Bush/Neocons/et al -> get the masses in a tizzy of despair -> accept the first glimpse of hope).
[the opposite can be true too... BO and team are really white knights of truth (ie. keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer) -- if so, would they play the same games as those they oppose? and if they are... does that feel right ? Not for me. We all are much better than that.]

Unfortunately, in today's world this whole matter being questioned has of course included the race card and really... we all are much better than that. Why can we not question all of these blatant cover-ups ? The FACT that reactions occur so quickly should be the red flag. Something is up here.

I also want to say, ignore those that want to badger on about moving on or "who cares". It is not about disrespect - it is like Bodhisattva has said... let's be "... totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog." This is how we should all be engaged here (and the forum as a whole). Some folks, however, feel it is their duty to throw stones here and there. Let them... and ignore them.

Thank you Heretic and Michael for your input on this issue as well.

peace, love and HUGS all around.

-John
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