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Old 12-29-2009, 09:23 AM   #26
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You did not read carefully what I wrote.Or mayby you are not familiar with scientific research. This discussion is pointless. Sorry.

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I read it then provided links for your research endeavors, if you choose to just ignore it then that's ok as well.


Not only am I familiar with scientific research, so are the people who associate with Nassim.
Here is another person you can contact as part of your homework assignment.

PROFESSOR ELIZABETH A. RAUSCHER, Ph.D.
President
Tecnic Research Laboratory
3500 S. Tomahawk Rd., Bldg #188
Apache Junction, AZ 85219
http://elizabethrauscher.com/
Dr. Rauscher is author of over 250 scientific papers, 4 books, 3 US patents and held 1 European patent.

She may be able to answer your questions as to the scientific validity of the research at the resonance project.

Have at it

Here is radio show host William Alek speaking about Nassim's new paper "The Schwarzschild Proton": http://www.achieveradio.com/archplay...Technology.mp3

If you are having difficulty with the technical papers of Nassim's work, I suggest you view this video: http://www.youtube.com/user/mumeo0#p/u/2/jvrXWbntQiI

I would also recommend this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isB2Wkn884w

Also it helps to be familiar with Classical Mechanics
Modern Physics: Classical Mechanics (Stanford)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyX8k...9C0DCE90CB6D81

as well as Einstein's General Theory of Relativity (Stanford)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbmf0...eature=related

Be well & happy researching

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Old 12-29-2009, 10:22 AM   #27
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I cliked on the youtube link to watch the vids & got this....can you believe this.....wtf


"This video has been removed due to terms of use violation."
can't watch any of Nassiems vids.....I am really sick of not being able to access vids in this ............country. It is happening so much now......sorry momentary rant of frustration. I love this mans work....so I'm p.....d off.
Here is another C2C, similar to the one JesterTerrestrial linked, it worked for me.

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Old 12-29-2009, 10:49 AM   #28
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You did not read carefully what I wrote.Or mayby you are not familiar with scientific research. This discussion is pointless. Sorry.

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We are very familiar with scientific research , we learned a few things weeks ago about the Nobel prize for Mr. Banana . That took the cake !
Prizes awarded are a political act and so publishing on specialized science magazines . If an article strays too far form the accepted dogma , you can forget it . We learned about the rigged data for the global warming scam . We know that scientists are required to produce results and those results are very often biased , rigged or outright fraudulent . Over the years we learned about the big Pharma products withdrawn from the marked because they killed the patients . We know that science is rigged , history is rigged , our reality is rigged as a matter of fact the current reality is totally controlled by the PTB .The world could be different if so many scientists and inventors would not have been bumped off by the secret services and this is a fact .. In conclusion it boils down to the personal choice of the reader to accept or throw out some ideas . As always CAVEAT EMPTOR . But I enjoy listening to Nassim Haramein ,or reading what the Watcher and other whistleblowers have to say , that's why we are here .
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Old 12-29-2009, 03:23 PM   #29
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Thanks a lot, ExChanger! Nassim is such a lovable man and his sense of humor is excellent, I think. I found him on WWW last year and shared with friends a lot, he's someone I could arrange a group at home for, to enjoy him together. Such light energy and thoroughness in what he presents, yippie!
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Hi All!

The Haramein-Rauscher Cosmology is rather close to the 'new science' after the transformation. Any of you interested and familiar with the scientific semantics can feel confident that this work will stand up to scrutiny.
The peer review process, as many of you know, is thorough but extremely biased towards the prevailing paradigms.

I have written a detailed critique on his paper on the Haramein-Rauscher metric, which is published in the first link below.
The Rotational Dynamics in Haramein-Rauscher Metrics and the Monopolic Current

I have also examined his general cosmology (the one many of you have become familiar with) and since it converged nicely with my own research I did publish this in the second link.
The Newtonian-Einstein-de Sitter Universe in Cosmological Mirror-Supersymmetry

This stuff is a bit technical, but I would answer questions on the science if anyone wishes to know more about it.

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thanks for the link
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Old 12-29-2009, 07:45 PM   #32
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I openly voiced my doubts, hoping that somebody in this forum shares the same doubts so that we can have a meaningful discussion. There are people here with an open and critical mind who helped me to get back on track. So, if you do not share my doubts, please do not waste your precious energy and time. It is not worth it.

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I openly voiced my doubts, hoping that somebody in this forum shares the same doubts so that we can have a meaningful discussion. There are people here with an open and critical mind who helped me to get back on track. So, if you do not share my doubts, please do not waste your precious energy and time. It is not worth it.

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No wasted energy here, the links and information are for all eyes not just yours.

Take it, explore it or leave it.

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Finally, we can agree. If you have posted those links for others, I am very happy about it because this is what this forum is all about. I thought that you wanted me to be engaged in an argument rather than accepting that we have a very different opinion on this topic. Sorry, if I misunderstood your intentions.

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Finally, we can agree. If you have posted those links for others, I am very happy about it because this is what this forum is all about. I thought that you wanted me to be engaged in an argument rather than accepting that we have a very different opinion on this topic. Sorry, if I misunderstood your intentions.

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but...hes trying to show you, with great references, that your opinion might be wrong. why are you backing away from an opportunity to be "engaged in an argument" where you could back up your points? his links show that you are wrong that nassim isnt credible. you said some of it seems like BS, i would be interested if you could link some references that explain why Nassim isn't credible or if you yourself could somehow disprove some of Nassim's work?

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Finally, we can agree. If you have posted those links for others, I am very happy about it because this is what this forum is all about. I thought that you wanted me to be engaged in an argument rather than accepting that we have a very different opinion on this topic. Sorry, if I misunderstood your intentions.

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Its all good

I'm a researcher, have been for 25 years, its what I do.
Any opportunity to provide research links to anyone I generally take it

The great thing about science is not just provable repeatable science its also the theoretical aspect.
Another beautiful aspect is that of theories that break down and become proven wrong, this is a wonderful time to be a scientist because finding fault or false conclusions always leads to new exciting questions and a sense of wonder at the elusiveness of the universe we live in.

So is Nassim right in his Physics?, hell if I know but its a fun ride all the same.
Is Nassim credible? Well how about that funny looking guy who in 1895 who failed an examination that would have allowed him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer in Zurich, then as a patent clerk between 1902-1909 he completed an astonishing range of theoretical physics publications, written in his spare time without the benefit of close contact with scientific literature or colleagues.
Strange fellow that Mr Einstein

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Old 12-30-2009, 03:35 AM   #37
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I can hear your fascination and your curiosity about new theories that may explain the universe we leave in. My expertise lies in psychology so I have approached this problem from a different angle. I have to depend on those who are physicists and their discussion gave me food for thoughts. I ask the same question as you are:” is he credible or is he right?” Maybe Nassim has a brain of a caliber that of Einstain and he will be 21 century genius. I believe that if his theory is a ground breaking, it will be recognized very quickly. Than I will say hooray. I just do not want to be disappointed.
But I seriously question that Nassim mixes physics with spirituality. If he is a physicist I want him to stay in the realm of physics. If he wants to be a spiritual Guru I want him to say so. I just want to hear the principle of his theory so that I can make my own connection, finding my understanding of spirituality. I was inspired by so many philosophers and spiritual teachers. They were important in my quest for truth but not any more.
As you said, life is a fun ride.

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I can hear your fascination and your curiosity about new theories that may explain the universe we leave in. My expertise lies in psychology so I have approached this problem from a different angle. I have to depend on those who are physicists and their discussion gave me food for thoughts. I ask the same question as you are:” is he credible or is he right?” Maybe Nassim has a brain of a caliber that of Einstain and he will be 21 century genius. I believe that if his theory is a ground breaking, it will be recognized very quickly. Than I will say hooray. I just do not want to be disappointed.
But I seriously question that Nassim mixes physics with spirituality. If he is a physicist I want him to stay in the realm of physics. If he wants to be a spiritual Guru I want him to say so. I just want to hear the principle of his theory so that I can make my own connection, finding my understanding of spirituality. I was inspired by so many philosophers and spiritual teachers. They were important in my quest for truth but not any more.
As you said, life is a fun ride.

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maybe the closer science gets to explaining reality, the more it will resemble spirituality... nassim could be one of the first to bridge the gap. i mean, he's trying to prove the infinite nature of existence, that is pretty spiritual science
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Submitted by Daniel Pinchbeck on Thu, 12/27/2007 - 22:56.

This is the contemporary "Holy Grail" it seems.

I was told that Nassim said this about the free energy devices, that they may only work if you think they will work. Is it possible that this next level of technology is dependent on the consciousness "set and setting" of the user? This would make sense with other aspects of psychic experience, such as psychedelic states.

We are learning more about how consciousness creates waves, energy fields, etcetera. Perhaps it is at that subtler level that these devices would be accessible and activated?

This make any sense?

If it was the case, then a training in intensified states of consciousness would be a prerequisite for using these technologies - like the training a jet pilot goes through, but on another level. It would be necessary to deeply explore the polarity of the psychic/physical - technically, aesthetically, phenomenologically to access "free energy," teleportation, etc.

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But I seriously question that Nassim mixes physics with spirituality. If he is a physicist I want him to stay in the realm of physics. If he wants to be a spiritual Guru I want him to say so. I just want to hear the principle of his theory so that I can make my own connection, finding my understanding of spirituality. I was inspired by so many philosophers and spiritual teachers. They were important in my quest for truth but not any more.
As you said, life is a fun ride.

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I do not feel that being one thing (say a physicist) precludes anyone from making statements or presenting ideas that appear to be in a different realm. I would be far more suspicious if someone was actually proclaiming themselves to be a spiritual guru. I feel that the realm we are moving into, is one that perhaps could see the eradication of specialists working in isolation.

I will admit to only having discovered Nassim recently, but the little that I have seen of him sits true with me. I certainly agree that we always need to use our blessed sense of judgement and discretion, but as my intuition tells me that we live in a field of consciousness, I would expect that more and more physicists (actually all scientists from all fields) to be discovering truths that until recently fell in the realm of spirituality, magic and superstition.

My 5 cents...
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Thank you Susan for all the great info you put up
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YouTube - Nassim Haramein with New Energy Movement

NOW, here's a guy firing on all 12 dna strands !!!
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Dear Aztar,

I would like to share something with you so that we can laugh together. Our discussion helped me to clarify feelings that were to strong to ignore. I was able not only to clarify my feelings but also analyze my beliefs on specific spiritual issues. Then I could ask myself a few questions:
1. Is Nassim theory going to change my life? Yes to the same extent as relativity theory did.
2. Is his theory going to make me happier, more creative, fulfilled, and loving? Absolutely not. I wish it were so simple.
3. Am I fascinated with his mind enough to go again through pain of reading physicists discussion and analysis of his theory? Definitely not.

Finally, when I heard him saying that he was the first one (he emphasized that no scholar ever did) to discover that the Ark was a new technology that helped Moses to cross the Red See, my response was: Thank you Mr. Haramein. Next please.

Well, beliefs are just beliefs. Any theory is just educated guesswork. So I can laugh today, tomorrow I may change my beliefs.

PS. I appreciate your willingness to help others to do research. You may regret that you said it aloud because I will ask you for help.

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It's all good

We don't have to eat everything on the plate, we don't even have to eat anything on the plate. Eat what you like and leave the rest or push the plate aside and order something else.

The author David Eddings who IMO wrote really good fantasy wrote a fiction story so I figured "well it's David Eddings, so of course it will be a great story"
Boy was I in for a surprise, I think i made it through 50 pages and just could not get any further, It was horrid.
Does that diminish my enjoyment of his Fantasy writing?
Not in the least.

A faucet of human thinking falls into the category of "truth givers" or in Eddings case "entertainment giver", the tendency to discover someone we respect on a certain subject or area and think perhaps that their views/skills apply in other or in some cases ALL area's, lets look at religion as an example here, if for example religion becomes someones "truth giver" it may be looked to not just for moral and spiritual guidance but since they become the iconic symbol for truth they can then be looked to for answers to questions perhaps outside their professed area of expertise this can lead to problems if say you are a scientist gathering empirical data on the earth being round in an era when the icons of truth have categorically stated that it is indeed flat.

On the other hand we can develop within ourselves the ability to adapt our thinking continually to available information and experience to add to our knowledge base, this may help with "old dog, new trick" syndrome.

Of course the pendulum may well swing to far the other way, best described in a joke.
"We have more an more specialists learning more and more about less and less, eventually their will be specialists who know absolutely everything about nothing.”

Nassim questioned everything since his youth, ofttimes getting chastised or thrown out of school.
It's because of this questioning, IMO, that played a part in the evolution of his theories in physics.
If my car breaks down, there is a extremely good chance I will seek advise from someone other than Nassim, unless he writes a book on car maintenance then we shall see

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On the other hand we can develop within ourselves the ability to adapt our thinking continually to available information and experience to add to our knowledge base, this may help with "old dog, new trick" syndrome.
Well said. I couldn’t agree more. Especially, as we get older and our minds are not as flexible as before.
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We also should question everything. We give our power away too easily by trusting authority. A decade ago, psychologists did a quite interesting research. According to this research, only every 3 adult has the ability of critical thinking. So 2/3 of Americans do not have this ability. It is scary isn’t it? How convenient it is for PTB.

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Well said. I couldn’t agree more. Especially, as we get older and our minds are not as flexible as before.
It is easier to carry an empty cup than one that is filled to the brim.
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Descartes' dropped everything he knew and started fresh to discover what it was he could prove, eventually he discovered something he knew and could prove without the slightest possibility of doubt and that was that he existed, "I think therefore I am"



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A decade ago, psychologists did a quite interesting research. According to this research, only every 3 adult has the ability of critical thinking. So 2/3 of Americans do not have this ability. It is scary isn’t it? How convenient it is for PTB.

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Yes quite interesting isn't it. On that subject I would point to this article:

AN INTRODUCTION TO CRITICAL THINKING

Science in the United States is often poorly taught as a fact-based discipline rather than as a way of knowing or method of discovery. As incredible as it may seem, studies reveal that 3% of the U.S. population is scientifically literate, down from 5% about twenty years ago. Thus, it does not appear that science alone will teach critical thinking to the masses. In fact, critical thinking programs are almost always designed by social scientists and directed toward improving thinking in the humanities and social studies, but the same can be accomplished with math and science courses. Properly taught university courses should teach a student critical thinking in addition to the disciplinary content of the course.
http://www.freeinquiry.com/critical-thinking.html

But what happens when the part of our brain responsible for critical thinking is damaged?

Neuroanatomist Jill Bolte Taylor had an opportunity few brain scientists would wish for: One morning, she realized she was having a massive stroke. As it happened -- as she felt her brain functions slip away one by one, speech, movement, understanding -- she studied and remembered every moment. This is a powerful story about how our brains define us and connect us to the world and to one another.



Of course we could just as easily lay out the historical instances when the field of psychology was used in order for the PTB to maintain & increase control over the mass's but this would be better as a subject of another thread

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Not sure if this is posted anywhere else but it is a relatively newly posted Nassim Video.

Enjoy!

Nassim gives an absolutely stunning display of the Phi Ratio and relates it to Marko Rodkin's Mathematics.

Nassim Haramein - Phi Ratio Meets Vortex-Based Mathematics With Marko Rodkin [1/2]



Nassim Haramein - Phi Ratio Meets Vortex-Based Mathematics With Marko Rodkin [2/2]



I'm pretty sure thats Brian Leary in the background.

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Yes. I discovered this after I graduated. I thought that was an irony of my life. First, I got a degree in business. It was so boring and I decided to move into another field. After I graduated, I began to question many theories. However, after a very intense period of questioning, I came up stronger than ever. My lesson was like of Jill Bolte to balance my left and right brain. I have stayed for to long in my left. But all my insights and creativity comes from my right brain and I enjoy more to be there. I think that Goethe found a pearl when he said “If you trust yourself, you will be happy”.

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Definitely. It would be interesting to open this discussion. However, I have not learned yet how to open a new thread.

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enemyofNWO, carriblu and Odiwan.

I apologize that I did not respond to your posts earlier. Nassim’s video opened a Pandora box with many questions with quite intense feelings. It took me 2 months of literally “a dark night of the soul” to answer those questions and clarify all the feelings. If I did respond, I would prolong my process. No, thanks, no

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We are very familiar with scientific research , we learned a few things weeks ago about the Nobel prize for Mr. Banana . That took the cake !
Prizes awarded are a political act and so publishing on specialized science magazines . If an article strays too far form the accepted dogma , you can forget it . We learned about the rigged data for the global warming scam . We know that scientists are required to produce results and those results are very often biased , rigged or outright fraudulent . Over the years we learned about the big Pharma products withdrawn from the marked because they killed the patients . We know that science is rigged , history is rigged , our reality is rigged as a matter of fact the current reality is totally controlled by the PTB .The world could be different if so many scientists and inventors would not have been bumped off by the secret services and this is a fact .. In conclusion it boils down to the personal choice of the reader to accept or throw out some ideas . As always CAVEAT EMPTOR . But I enjoy listening to Nassim Haramein ,or reading what the Watcher and other whistleblowers have to say , that's why we are here .
I agree with you 100% and I question everything. So, Nassim is not an exception.

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Why do I need science to explain reality? PTB can only control us through our left brain and they were extremely successful for more that 5000 years. They can not do this through our right brain were all the answers and guidance are.


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I do not feel that being one thing (say a physicist) precludes anyone from making statements or presenting ideas that appear to be in a different realm. I would be far more suspicious if someone was actually proclaiming themselves to be a spiritual guru. I feel that the realm we are moving into, is one that perhaps could see the eradication of specialists working in isolation.

I will admit to only having discovered Nassim recently, but the little that I have seen of him sits true with me. I certainly agree that we always need to use our blessed sense of judgement and discretion, but as my intuition tells me that we live in a field of consciousness, I would expect that more and more physicists (actually all scientists from all fields) to be discovering truths that until recently fell in the realm of spirituality, magic and superstition.
In this process of seeking for truth and questioning Nassim and other quantum physicists, I have learned that PTB are planning using science to program us to a new view of reality.

Love to you all
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I watched the 8-hour presentation just a few days ago and I was very happy with it. I suppose everyone has a different opinion on it depending on their life's experiences.

However, a couple of points are bothering me. Nassim said he'd developed special meditation techniques and when he was asked if he would publish them he said he would, but this was in 2003. Did he ever do that? Also he said he was developing "technology" based on his principles but I haven't seen any of that either.

It does seem to me that he understands the basic nature of this universe but I can't understand why he hasn't made some practical use of his knowledge in the last 7 years.

This isn't a criticism, just a genuine desire to know. Can anyone shed any light on this?

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Very interesting.

Hmmm...What do Volkswagen know, that we don't???






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