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Old 01-20-2010, 10:11 PM   #1
bashi
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Default Ride the wave !

There has been a lot of material out there regarding the coming earth changes and alien involvement during that time. It is very hard to distinguish how much REAL info is contained in the vast amount of publications.
One source with a high amount of accuracy can be THE WAVE channellings by Laura Knight-Jadczyk, available here:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/waveindex.htm

I have read through this monumental piece of work. After downloading and converting it into PDF I had a 1784 (!) pages piece of info to chew through. An online presentation of this vast amount of info as one piece can be self-defeating. Because precious info about one particular subject will be buried just “somewhere” and it becomes a tedious search for a needle in a haystack and many people will therefore shy away from even starting the search. I have therefore extracted the most viable info regarding one subject:

The situation of Mankind and Alien involvement during the coming “Earth changes”.

This material is highly controversial and can be quite shocking. But I feel, for the sake of completeness, that this point of view should at least be considered, even if it has a very negative look at the future ahead. I post it not to be marked as a fear monger or to fulfil my duty as an STS-agent to create negative vibrations. Don’t blame the messenger.
In this way a more comprehensive view of your own position inside this unfolding cosmic drama can be acquired. That may trigger more people to participate in STO actions like the one on the ASTRALWALKER thread.

I am inviting you for a rough ride, from which you can (maybe) check out at any time. But
CAUTION: Readers discretion is advised!!!
Please remember that this is just a believe-system into which we are buying temporarily, as a kind of thought experiment.
Sorry: No nice pictures here…


First a quote from the Cassiopeians:
“Be not frustrated for the
answers to be gained through
your own contemplation. It will be
truly illuminating to you and
the experience to follow will be
worth a thousand lifetimes of
pleasure and joy.“

Here a small video to get into the right mood:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te6qG4yn-Ps

The first section will be excerpts from some hypnotical regression session which has been a part of the work, prior to the channelings:

A means Answer by patient (Maryann).
Q means Question by hypnotiser (Laura):

“A: Things will be triggered. You are
set up to do certain things...
movies, books, different things
trigger things that are in your
subconscious... I see a key, or a
wheel... how a wheel fits
together... two wheels fit together
and it clicks in...
Q: Okay. This wave you speak of,
do you sense that it is a wave
coming from deep space or is it a
wave coming from within our solar
system?
A: It's on its way! We don't know
about it, but somebody knows?
Q: Who knows, does the
government know?
A: Yes.

A: I see the earth spinning. Not
normally, but out of balance.
Q: Okay. And what it the result of
this out of balance spinning?
A: Destruction.
Q: Okay. And you can't detect
from where this wave originates.
A: Can't see anything.
Q: Is it a natural wave? Or is is
unnatural?
A: I don't know what this means.
Somebody is causing... they're
disrupting something. All those
ships I saw...
Q: Are the ships causing this
wave?
A: They are disrupting something.
There's a disruption.
Q: Are the squadrons of ships you
see coming, do they come before
this destruction or after?
A: The only thing I can say is that
they ride the wave in.
Q: They ride the wave in? And you
can't see where the wave is
coming from?
A: All I can see is we have to get
prepared.
Q: How do we get prepared?
A: They are preparing us.
Q: Do we have to do anything ourselves?
A: We are programmed.



Now will follow excepts of the channelling of the Cassiopeans.
I have only included some sections of this vast material. The selection is intended to give a glimpse of things to be and become. It is in no way complete. Many quotes are omitted because of volume restrictions. Some vital info might just be overlooked by me, as nobody is perfect.
The quotes are separated by a blank line. To be sure of receiving the correct message, just check the original material.

Q: (L) means Question asked by Laura

“Q: (L) You have told us through
this source, that there is a cluster
of comets connected in some
interactive way with our solar
system, and that this cluster of
comets comes into the plane of the
ecliptic every 3600 years. Is this
correct?
A: Yes. But, this time it is riding
realm border wave to 4th level,
where all realities are different.
Q: (L) Okay, so the cluster of
comets is riding the realm border
wave. Does this mean that when it
comes into the solar system, that
its effect on the solar system, or
the planets within the solar
system, or us, may or may not be
mitigated by the fact of this
transition? Is this a mitigating
factor?
A: Will be mitigated.

So, that was a bit of a relief. What the
Cassiopaeans seemed to be saying was that
there was something about this wave made it
possible for it to be UTILIZED according to the
frequency of the individual.

Q: (L) Is it true that at regular
intervals the sun radiates massive
amounts of electromagnetic energy
which then causes the planets of
the solar system to interact with
one another to a greater or lesser
extent?
A: Other irregular pulsations
determined by external vibrational
events.
Q: (L) The sun is not the source of
the periodicity of "dying's", is that
correct?
A: Sometimes. Many causes.
Q: (L) Well what is the cause that
recurs like clockwork? Is there
some cause that is a regular
pulsation?
A: Cometary showers.
Q: (L) Where are these cometary
showers from?
A: Clusters in own orbit.
Q: (L) Does this cluster of comets
orbit around the sun?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) How often does this cluster
of comets come into the plane of
the ecliptic?
A: 3600 years.
Q: (L) What body were the
Sumerians talking about when
they described the Planet of the
crossing or Nibiru?
A: Comets.
Q: (L) This body of comets?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Does this cluster of comets
appear to be a single body?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is this the same object that
is rumored to be on its way here at
the present time?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Who were the Annunaki?
A: Aliens.
Q: (L) Where were they from?
A: Zeta Reticuli.
Q: (L) Do they come here every
time the comet cluster is
approaching to sap the souls
energy created by the fear, chaos
and so forth?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) The two events are loosely
interrelated?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is that why they are here
now?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Is there a large fleet of
space-ships riding a wave, so to
speak, approaching our planet?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Where are these ships
from?
A: Zeta Reticuli.
Q: (L) When will they arrive?
A: 1 month to 18 years.
Q: (L) How can there be such a
vast discrepancy in the time?
A: This is such a huge fleet that
space/time warping is irregular
and difficult to determine as you
measure time.
Q: (L) Are these craft riding a
"wave" of some sort?
A: Yes.
Well, that was interesting, but it was late and
we put off more questions until another time.
But the issue of the big window of Estimated
Time of Arrival really bugged me, so that is
what I wanted to pin down. And, at this point,
we started taping the sessions.
10-05-94
Q: (L) Assuming there is a fleet of
spacecraft riding a wave, and
approaching from the vicinity of
Zeta Reticuli, what does it mean to
say that the space time warp is
indefinite in terms of arrival? Why
is this? Please specify.
A: Mass affects electromagnetic
transfer within gravity wave.
Q: (L) Can you help us out
anymore here?
A: Mass affects time cycle: small
equal short cycle; large or DENSE
equals long cycle.

Q: (L) Who carved the stone heads
on Easter Island?
A: Lemurian descendants.
Q: (L) The natives say the stones
walked into position. Is this true?
A: No.
Q: (L) Well, how?
A: Tonal vibration.
Q: (L) And what did these stones
represent?
A: Nephalim. [This is the
Cassiopaean's distinctive spelling]
Q: (L) Is this what the Nephilim
looked like?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Does that mean that the
Nephilim were present in Lemuria?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Where was Lemuria located?
A: Pacific off South America. Right
near, all around Easter Island is
remnant of Lemuria.
Q: (L) What happened to Lemuria?
A: Submerged close to time you
refer to as Fall of Eden,
approximately.
Q: (L) Well if the Nephilim were
brought here 9 to 12 thousand
years ago [as you have said
previously]...
A: Last visit. Have been here 5
times. Will return.
Q: (L) The Nephilim are going to
return? [I was pretty shocked, to
say the least!] Where do the
Nephilim currently live?
A: Orion.
Q: (L) They live in the
constellation Orion? Where is their
planet?
A: Don't have one. In transit.
Q: (L) The whole dadgum bunch is
in transit?
A: Three vehicles.
Q: (L) How many Nephilim does
each vehicle hold? [At this point I
think my voice was shaking]
A: About 12 million.
Q: (L) Are they coming to help us?
[I was hoping!]
A: No. Wave, comet cluster; all
using same energy.
Q: (L) Using same energy to what?
A: Pass through space\time.
Q: (L) Does this mean that without
this comet cluster they cannot pass
through space/time?
A: No. "Slower."
Q: (L) So, it is slower for them to
come here without this wave.
Where is the wave coming from?
A: Follows cluster.
Q: (L) It follows the cluster. What
does this wave consist of?
A: Realm border.
Q: (L) Does the realm border wave
follow the comet cluster in a
permanent way?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is the realm border
associated with the comet cluster
each time it comes?
A: No. Realm border follows all
emcompassing energy reality
change; realm border will follow
this cluster passage and has others
but not most.
Q: (L) Is this realm border like a
dimensional boundary?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Okay, this realm border, do
dimensions...
A: Pulsating realms. Fluctuating
realms.
Q: (L) Is our realm fluctuating or
pulsating?
A: No.
Q: (L) What fluctuates?
A: Residence. Your planet
fluctuates between realms.
Q: (L) How often does this
fluctuation occur?
A: About every 309,000 years. [It
should be noted that this is almost
exactly 12 precessional cycles.]
Q: (L) In other words we can
expect to be in 4th density for
about 300,000 years?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Does this mean that the
Edenic state existed for about
300,000 years before the "Fall?"
A: Yes.
Q: (L) You are saying that the
planet fluctuates...
A: No, realms; do planet merely
occupies realm.
Q: (L) What is the source in
space/time of this other realm?
A: Too complex for present
energies.
Q: (L) What is the generative
source?
A: Part of grand cycle.
Q: (L) Is this the cycle understood
by the Mayans?
A: They understood partially.
Q: (L) Their calendar extends to
2012... is that accurate as to the
time of the realm border change?
A: Close. Still indefinite as you
measure time. Lizzies hoping to
rule you in 4th density. Closer to
18 years.

A: Remember Dorothy... Glenda is
like us.
Q: (L) And who is the Wizard? Is
that the Beast or the U.S. Govt?
A: Close. Illuminati.
Q: And the monkeys are the
Grays?
A: Close.
Q: (L) If water destroyed the
witch, and the witch represents the
Lizzies, can we destroy the Lizzies?
A: Knowledge.
Q: (L) But there are only a few on
the planet who have the
knowledge, am I correct?
A: What do you mean? Against all
when the time comes.
Q: (L) So the 36 million Nephilim
will be against all on the planet
when the time comes? Their
arrival will wake everybody up?
A: Of course.
Q: (L) And those who have the
knowledge and can dispense it to
others ... well... they may
suddenly be heard...
A: Yes.

Q: (L) You have told us through
this source, that there is a cluster
of comets connected in some
interactive way with our solar
system, and that this cluster of
comets comes into the plane of the
ecliptic every 3600 years. Is this
correct?
A: Yes. But, this time it is riding
realm border wave to 4th level,
where all realities are different.
Q: (L) Okay, so the cluster of
comets is riding the realm border
wave. Does this mean that when it
comes into the solar system, that
its effect on the solar system, or
the planets within the solar
system, or us, may or may not be
mitigated by the fact of this
transition? Is this a mitigating
factor?
A: Will be mitigated.

Q: (L) When Maryann was
under hypnosis she described
seeing a fleet of space ships
"riding a wave" and this
unnerved her. She felt this
wave was a fearful,
invasion-type thing. Was this
you and your wave she was
perceiving?
A: Wave is transport mode.
Q: (L) Is that transport mode
for many beings?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are you coming to
invade us?
A: No, merge.
Q: (L) Are others coming with
the intention of invading us?
A: Yes. Wave is "crowded."
Q: (T) So, everybody out in the
whole universe who wants a
piece of the earth action are on
this wave?
A: At realm border crossing.

Q: (T) We were 3rd density STO at
this time. Was this after the battle
that had transpired? In other
words, were we on our own at that
point, as opposed to before?
A: Was battle.
Q: (L) The battle was in us?
A: Through you.

Q: (T) The battle was through us
as to whether we would walk
through this doorway... (L) The
battle was fought through us, we
were literally the battleground.
(T) Was the battle over whether or
not we walked through that door?
A: Close.
Q: (T) Okay, we were STO at that
point. You have said before that on
this density we have the choice of
being STS or STO.
A: Oh Terry, the battle is always
there, it's "when" you choose
that counts!


Q: (T) In other words, a wave that
is going to transition from 3rd to
4th density will do so no matter
where you are on the wave when
it passes?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) A wave that is aligned to
transit people from STS to STO or
vice versa will do that also?
A: Or you could "go under"
instead.
Q: (T) Under the wave? Then you
wouldn't move at all. (L) You could
be pulled under, you could drown
and become part of the primordial
soup! (T) Is that Minestrone?
A: Chicken Noodle. [Laughter.]

Q: We are what we are. Nature is
nature. Progression is progression.
And if people would just relax and
be who and what they are in
honesty, and do what is according
to their nature without violating
the Free Will of others, that this is
a more pure form of being than
doing things out of any feeling of
expectation, or desire; to just BE,
not want... just BE?
A: Yes, but STS does not do that.
You are all STS. If you were not,
you would not be where you are.
Q: (A) There are those who are
happy in the STS mode; and there
are those who are trying to get out
of the STS mode...
A: STO candidates.
Q: (A) These STO candidates are
not able to just simply BE, even
theoretically, because then, STS
would eat them.
A: No.
Q: Why not?
A: STS does not eat according to
protocol. STS "eats" whatever it
wants to, if it is able.
Q: That's what we said. If you are
an STO candidate in an STS world,
you are basically defenseless and
they eat you.
A: No.
Q: Why? What makes STO
unavailable or 'inedible?'
A: Frequency resonance not in sync.

A: Possible. Now review: The "Greys" are
cybergenetic probes of the "Lizard" beings, so
just exactly who is doing the assisting? And who
is behind the Lizard types?? Could it be your
ancestors, perhaps!?!

A: You may be starting down a long path. Just
remember: All prophecies attached to
calendar dates are useless unless you wish
to be sucked up by the 4th density STS
forces!

A: You see, my dear, when you
arrive at 4th density, then you will
see.
Q: (L) Well, how in the heck am I
supposed to get there if I can't "get
it?"
A: Who says you have to "get it"
before you get there?
Q: (L) Well, that leads us right
back to: what is The Wave going to
do to expand this awareness?
Because, if the wave is what "gets
you there," what makes this so?
A: No. It is like this: After you
have completed all your lessons in
"third grade," where do you go?
Q: (L) So, it is a question of...
A: Answer, please.
Q: (L) You go to fourth grade.
A: Okay, now, do you have to
already be in 4th grade in order to
be allowed to go there? Answer.
Q: (L) No. But you have to know
all the 3rd density things...
A: Yes. More apropos: you have
to have learned all of the
lessons.
Q: (L) What kind of lessons are we
talking about here?
A: Karmic and simple
understandings.
Q: (L) What are the key elements
of these understandings, and are
they fairly universal?
A: They are universal.
Q: (L) What are they?
A: We cannot tell you that.
Q: (L) Swell! My night would not
have been complete without that!
Do the lessons have to do with
discovering the MEANINGS of the
symbology of 3rd density
existence, seeing behind the veil...
and reacting to things according to
a true free choice? Giving each
thing or person or event its due as
the Sufis teach?
A: Okay. But you cannot force the
issue. When you have learned, you
have learned!

A: Is there a tool which makes
it unnecessary for the child to
learn how to ride the bicycle in
order to know how to ride it?!?
Q: (MM) Don't you get more
free will by assimilating knowledge?
A: Yes!! Yes!!
Q: (L) So, in other words,
knowledge and awareness
makes you aware that you have
free will, and also makes you
aware of what actions actually
ARE acts of free will, and
therefore, when you know or
suspect the difference between
the lies and deception and
truth, then you are in a position
to be in control of your life?
A: Yes.

A: First of all, it is not correct to
perceive "everything in such
darkness and gloom, etc." That is
merely the result of a cocoon of
falsehood being removed.
Celebrate the balance. Don't
mourn the death of an illusion of
an imbalance.
Q: (L) Where do I go from here?
Where do we all go?
A: Everywhere.

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Q: How does it come that you are
taking energy from someone by
giving them love when not asked?
A: Because an STS vehicle does
not learn to be an STO
candidate by determining the
needs of another.

A: Have we forgotten about
Karma?

Q: He says: 'I believe that if we do
not send love energy to the world
that the egocentric STS energy will
be dominating.
A: Why would one choose to send
this? What is the motivation?
Q: To change it to your idea of
what it is supposed to be. To
control it to follow your judgment
of how things ought to be.
A: Exactly. The students are not
expected to be the architects of
the school.

A: It is the draining of energy that
befuddles the mind.
Q: Where does this energy drain
to?
A: 4th density STS.
Q: They drain our energy from us
and 4th density STS harvests it
from them?
A: "They" do nothing!!!! 4th
density STS does it all through
them!

A: Until a person realizes that attack can
come through even one's self,
wives and husbands, children and
parents, friends, virtually
ANYBODY - NOBODY is exempt.
A: The block is a lack of faith in
the concept. Remember, when one
has been indoctrinated by religion,
culture and/or science, they are
predisposed to view all things in
the sense of the measureable
physical reality exclusively.
Humans need to be cured of their
lack of faith in the reality of
non-physical attack.

Q: We got some information from
an early session which said some
awful things about bits of
childrens' organs being removed
etc, what was the source of that
information? Did that come from
you guys?
A: Yes. Sorry for shock but
necessary for broadening channel.

Q: (T) In other words, we are
looking at the fact that what's
coming this time is a wave that's
going to allow the human race
to move to 4th density?
A: And the planet and your
entire sector of space/time.

A: Or another possibility is that
the physical cataclysms will
occur only for those "left
behind" on the remaining 3rd
level density earth.

Q: (L) Are we anchoring frequency
to create a split?
A: One developing conduit.
Q: (L) We are developing a
conduit?
A: Yes. One.

Q: (T) What is the conduit for?
A: You and those who will follow
you.
Q: (L) This conduit. Is this a
conduit through which an entire
planet will transition?
A: You are one. There are others.
Q: (J) So, at this point we are
developing a conduit?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) There are other groups on
this planet developing their own
conduits?
A: Yes. Knowledge is the key to
developing a conduit.

Q: (T) Is the conduit kind of like
an escape hatch for us?
A: Close.

Q: (L) [Has the government been
engaged in faking UFOs,
abductions, and cattle mutilations]
to protect themselves from the
public knowing that they were
engaged in alien interactions?
A: They do it to protect the public
from knowing that which would
explode society if discovered.
Q: (L) What is this item that they
were protecting so that society or
the public wouldn't know about it.
What activity is this?
A: Humans eat cattle, aliens eat you. [...]


Q: (L) What is the "ultimate
secret" being protected by the
Consortium?
A: You are not in control of
yourselves, you are an
experiment.

Q: What structure do we live
under?
A: Forced choices.


...If we know, we may change
something.
Every step we make in
becoming more conscious sets
us more free.

Here an excerpt from the RA-channeling quoted by Laura:
Ra: [The purpose of the Orion
STS] is conquest... their objective
is to locate certain [individuals]
which vibrate in resonance with
their own [frequencies], then to
[use these contactees to] enslave
the [masses].

A: Or that it would be different
that it turned out to be.
Lesson number 1: Always expect
attack.
Lesson number 2: Know the modes
of same.
Lesson number 3: Know how to
counteract same.
When you are under attack, expect
the unexpected, if it is going to
cause problems... But, if you
expect it, you learn how to "head it
off," thus neutralizing it. This is
called vigilance, which is rooted in
knowledge. And, what does
knowledge do?
Q: Protects!

Q: Did aliens do anything to create
emotional turmoil here?
A: They always do.
Q: Is there anything that can be
done to help this situation?
A: All is learning.

A: Vigilance! Vigilance! Vigilance!!!!!
Q: (L) That is completely depressing. Help me out
here!
A: Now... Calm down! No need for depression.
Would you rather be left with a lack of knowledge,
and in an ever increasing state of false securityoriented
oblivion, only to be struck by lightning?!?
Of course not!!! So remember... Knowledge
protects, ignorance endangers!!

Q: (J) The power source has to be
on for the implant to work for
them to get the juice and the
power is negative thoughts and
emotions. (T) But I am still a 3rd
density being. I have all the
emotions of a 3rd density being,
the whole gamut, and that is part
of what makes me a 3rd density
being. Therefore I can't turn one
emotion off without upsetting the
balance of the other emotions,
emotions are almost an analogy to
the light and the dark.
A: No. If you choose, you may
have only positive emotions.
Q: (T) Now, if I have only positive
emotions, which is a nice thing to
have and I'd like to have that,
what does that do to the sensor
equipment of the Lizzies?
A: Cancels them.
Q: (T) So they are tuned to
negative frequencies?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Having positive feelings cuts
off the implants. If I cut off the
sensors by having positive
feelings, what will the Lizards do?
A: Go elsewhere.
Q: (L) Be aware, though, that
when you first start turning this off
that they may increase their
efforts for a period and then finally
they realize that you are really in
charge here and then they go
away?
A: Exactly.


Q: (L) No. But you have to know
all the 3rd density things...
A: Yes. More apropos: you have
to have learned all of the
lessons.
Q: (L) What kind of lessons are we
talking about here?
A: Karmic and simple
understandings.

A: Yes. Remember, you learn on
an exponential curve, once you
have become "tuned in."

Q: (L) Bob Lazar referred to the fact that aliens supposedly refer to
humans as containers. What does this mean?
A: Storage for later use.
Q: (L) Used for what?
A: 94 per cent of all population. All are containers; 94 per cent will be
used.
Q: (L) Used for what?
A: Consumption.
Q: (L) You mean eaten?
A: Total consumption.
Q: (L) What do you mean by consumption? Ingested?
A: Consumed for ingredients.
Q: (L) Ingredients for what?
A: New race. Important. 13 years approximately when project will be
finished.
Q: (L) Why are humans consumed?
A: They are used for parts.
Q: (L) We don't understand. How can humans be used for parts?
A: Reprototype. The Vats exist. Missing persons often go there and
especially missing children.
Q: (L) Do we have any protection?
A: Some.
Q: (L) How can we protect ourselves and our children?
A: Inform them. Don't hide the truth from children.
Q: (L) How does truth protect us?
A: Awareness protects. Ignorance endangers.
Q: (L) Why tell children such horrible things?
A: They need to know.
Q: (L) What is the purpose of this project?
A: New life here.
Q: (L) Are the aliens using our emotions and energies?
A: Correct; and bodies too. Each earth year 10 percent more children
are taken.
Q: (L) Do they suffer?
A: Some. Bits of children's organs removed while they are wide awake.
Kidneys first; then next feet; next jaw examined on table; tongues cut
off; bones stress tested; pressure placed on heart muscle until it
bursts.
Q: (L) Why are you telling us this awful stuff?
A: You must know what the consortium is doing. This is done mostly to
Indian children.
Q: (L) Why are things like this being done?
A: There is a big effort on behalf of Orions and their human brethren
to create a new race and control it as well as the rest of humanity.
Q: (L) What happens to the souls? Is this project physical only?
A: Physical; and souls recycled.
Q: (L) Where do the souls go?
A: Back here for the most part.
Q: (L) Do some go elsewhere?
A: Some go to other planets.
Q: (L) Who is responsible for this project?
A: Consortium.
Q: (L) This is sick!
A: Sick is subjective.
Q: (L) But this whole thing is so awful.
A: We understand your feelings, but all does not conform to your
perspective.
Q: (L) Why is this happening to earth?
A: Karma.
Q: (L) What kind of Karma could bring this?
A: Atlantis.
Q: (L) What can protect us?
A: Knowledge.
Q: (L) How do we get this knowledge?
A: You are being given it through this source now.
Q: (L) How does the knowledge of what you have told us help us?
A: Gives great defense. ... Just knowing about it gives psychic defense.
[...]
Q: (L) Is there any way we can prevent Orion abductions?
A: No.
Q: (L) Why?
A: It would interfere with universal law of free will and service to self.
Q: (L) But we don't want to be abducted. Can't we stop it?
A: Not likely. They have more power than you.
Q: (L) Well then, why can't you help us?
A: Would interfere in natural progression of your race and theirs. The
Jews called upon us to save them and we could not. And, natives of
your land called upon us and we could not save them from your race;
we could not stop that either. It is natural progression, see?
Q: (L) Are we going to be wiped out by aliens as part of this natural
progression?
A: Maybe. What makes you think you are special?
Q: (L) Jesus told us God loves us. Is this true?
A: Yes. But it is the soul that matters, not the body. The body dies not
the soul.
Q: (L) Well, this whole thing just gives us the creeps.
A: You are energy. There is an energy that comes from the soul and
body connection; later the body is used for parts.
Q: (L) What are they using our energy and bodies for?
A: To create a new race. Theirs is fading out.
Q: (L) Well, do they just take people and kill them and do what with
them?
A: They slice them up.
Q: (L) Do they die?
A: Maximum matter and energy transfer occurs during this type of
transition.
Q: (L) In other words, you are saying that a slow painful death gives
them the most of what they want? This is totally sick.
A: You asked for truth. You say it is sick but it is merely the ultimate
form of service to self. (At this point A___ described reading a passage
in a book which stated that Native Americans believed a slow torturous
death of an enemy gave them more power.)
A: What about your lab animals? Is that not service to self as well?
What about unwanted insects et cetera?
Q: (L) We were here first!
A: So were the insects. Grays now want your planet.
Q: (L) That is sick.
A: Is natural progression sick?
Q: (L) Is what is happening something like what Jesus described in the
parable of the wheat where the workers come in to take out the weeds
first?
A: Close.
Q: (L) What kind of people is this being done to?
A: Low level humans.
Q: (L) What happens to the high level humans?
A: Some will survive.


Q: (L) Are a lot of souls on the
earth going to recycle into these
new bodies coming onto the earth?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) As ancient mankind?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And do the whole thing all
over again?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And do the whole thing all
over again?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, in other words, a lot of
people are going back to square
one?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Is this punishment.
A: No. Nature.
Q: (L) Are some of the souls, at
that point, going to move into a
higher density level?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay, we are having these
lessons. You have told us what is
going on. We see it going on
around us. I am convinced that
what you have said is so from a
LOT of other evidence as well as
the research of others who have
come to the same conclusion and,
DAMN IT, IT'S UGLY! DO YOU
UNDERSTAND ME?! IT'S UGLY!
A: That is your perspective.

A: Emotion that limits is an
impediment to progress. Emotion
is also necessary to make progress
in 3rd density. It is natural. When
you begin to separate limiting
emotions based on
assumptions from emotions
that open one to unlimited
possibilities, that means you
are preparing for the next
density.

A: There always is that. Have you not seen the
evidence already? Must be aware. Think of it as
a war. Expect every possible move/or
occurrence. Victory comes from being
forewarned, and therefore, forearmed.

Q: (L) What do you mean
"Challenge will be ecstasy"? What
sort of challenge?
A: Living through the turmoil
ahead.“

End of Quote

One very important statement is:
“Q: (L) Well then, why can't you help us?
A: Would interfere in natural progression of your race and theirs.”


That means, we will be left alone to face an invasion etc. Our free will is being respected, as same as the Orion STS Aliens free will/decision to enslave/eat us is respected. There are no moral restrains in the actions. Nothing is forbidden, all is allowed until the lesson is learned:

Do not do to others that you do not want to be done to yourself!!!

Well, as I said, its just a thought experiment.

Here a video of similar frequency:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqi5F5MqqTQ

So, balance up:



You see:
Knowledge Protects!!!


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Great thread bashi! thank you... I am only on the first Wave book but it looks like it will be a wild ride.
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I don't normally pay much attention to channelled information, but I have ended up reading this stuff, I think it was recommended by kerry, I'm on part 6 and still wading through it. It is a serious reality check and there is little to disagree with in it, except the 94% figure which leaves our cause relatively futile if only 6% of us are going to make it to 5D while the rest end up scattered across the universe as containers.

We are going to have to improve our survivability ratio and work on taking control of the matrix. The wave is coming for us, lets enjoy it.
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This is interesting indeed, thanks bashi. I may choose to remain sceptical about the channelling stuff, but I have learnt from this kind of reading before, so I'll go with my guts feeling (^_^ )

BTW: Could you provide some kind of difficult terms and abbreviations glossary for the NNESs (Non-Native English Speakers)? I've got no clue what STO / STS means, even though I can guess from the context, but anyway... please? m(-__- )m
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sto means service to others, and sts means service to self.
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i take it with a generous pinch of salt..channeled material for the most part is significant to the channel and is indicative of the channel's frame of mind..if you notice, the critical questions aren't answered or are very very vague, open to various interpretations..other fragments ate unequivocal..i feel this material is grosely contaminated..it just reminds me of what not to take seriously..nothing will get you you if you see that your frequences are moving up..listen to you inner knowledge..this is someone else's inner knowledge..and the chances are we will be stratified, want it or not..
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I do not believe this particular message.....I think it is truth mixed with lies...
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I have to disagree on some points with you, light.
Personally I do not read channelled info often. I read SETH and RA many years ago, and nothing after that. I took it as the most reliable info available by channelling. RA particularly was very uplifting. Carla with the help of Elkins were doing the channelling. I thought of how spiritually developed they must be to do that. It was a shock for me to learn that in 1984 Elkins committed suicide. I was never able to understand why.
Now I know why: They received channelled info, which was so ugly that they decided to block it out, also out of the publicised material of RA.
They actually stated that they have omitted some material which they regarded as not fit for public consumption. I think in the end Elkins could not digest the info.
The Cassiopean channelling is not prone to any censorship in that regard.
In respect of answers to the point: I think many answers are very much to it. But the Cs were often stating that they will assist only to a certain level, like a mentoring where the disciple has to do a guided finding of the truth by himself. That’s why some questions are anwered only vague.
You are right in “nothing will get you if you see that your frequencies are moving up..”
I think this collapse of realities will be like a great market of possibilities and realities in which you choose to manifest for yourself according to your own “phenomena”. It is good to know that ugly possibilities are existing, in order not to get dragged into it.
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Hi bashi

i, on the other side, argue what i did from a position of a total novice to all the channelled material..i know of it but make a choice not to read it in fine deatil..i have read some fragments from RA (LoO) on the net and found it disturbing, so i dropped further reading...but then i have always found (from when i was little) the bible texts extremely disturbing too (good part of it is channeled i am sure you must know) ..particularly the old testament, which i exeperienced as full of horroors..the part where isak is offering his own son as sacrifice to please god (prove his subservience) is the part my young mind could not process at all - i was convinced then as i am still convinced that god cannot be this bloodthirsty entity, quite the contrary i didin't feel there's anything to fear..why would i fear god, why would we fear some natural cyclic processes i now think years after..what's annurving is "human" interference in all this - betrayal to call it its name - on the big part of scientific community who quite simplly forgets to think about the purpose of projects they sell their souls into..and so on..this is something we have to keep in mind i feel - know as much as it is possible so we can be armed with the knowledge of what is and what isn't maliciously induced, imposed on us...so i agree with you on that one..knowledge itself is protective.

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I thought of how spiritually developed they must be to do that. It was a shock for me to learn that in 1984 Elkins committed suicide.
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that doesn't follow at all, in fact, i feel that allowing oneself to be a channel is a very risky business in that you never quite know who's speaking through you..it may be seductive, it may make one feel they are special, chosen so to speak, but that it a very naive thinking, also based in one's ego..because "chosen" one may be for the good or for the bad..i did find that detail about that man committing a suicide and remember thinking - not so surprising..i think that the author of Seth material also killed herself..(didn't touch that material though)..i only saw a few photos of the lady and exerienced her as a really tragic case..very disturbing too..

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i totally agree on that, only i feel it's already happening.. i bet it would further escalate and keep escalating at a faster and faster rate.. not so sure what you meant by wn "phenomena"...it is useful to know thare are ugly possibilities, but i feel it would help more to focus one's mind and heart on good ones only..that way we don't create problems, we deal with them when and if they arise..hope i make sense.
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Opinions of others..Channeled or not, seem to always "affect" people.

No fact needed, perception is always subjective.


All my life i could, see life though others eyes... from a stranger passing in a car, ..or my child looking up at me...feel what it is like to perceive their reality.

I suppose channeling is like that.
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The riddle of the bloodthirsty god with Sodom and Gomorra on one hand and the all loving god on the other was for long a mystery for me also. Until I learned through the years that the god had been an Alien with very selfish motives.
Yes, there are a lot of dangers involved by opening up to channelling. Actually I do not recommend it at all for unprepared persons. The Cs have been channelled only after the receiving person went through a 15 year training of hardships etc. to make her more balanced. In the beginning she was very sceptical about it for herself.
Lately she started to make a video series on youtube about the channelling and during that she realized that it would be better to inform the people about her findings than to teach channelling. She started in a way that I was thinking, “Oh god, what a shallow attitude!”, but made up for it later. She is obviously very down to earth, knowledgeable and gives Reiki. The channelling was made together with her husband, a theoretical physicist. I think a very competent team.
About the suicide: Channelling will affect you. Whether it’s the procedure itself or the info received is a mere opinion piece, as there is no way to distinguish it. I think it was the info, because it was so mind-cage-rattling.


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hi again
a lot of us are inadvertent channels anyway, so i think..when it becomes risky it's when one willingly cultivates the "talent" and makes it a habit...there are ways of protecting oneself, something that everyone should consider before becooming a habitual channel/port, just to be on the safe side..and then, it again boils down to the same: how do we know to which degree the funneled down info is contaminated? any entity could assume whatever name..do you know how to tell a cassiopean from say andromedan? ..we do not have much to go by...we still don't know how our individual consciousnesses work..why is it that some individuals attract benevolent and others malevolent ET interference? in other words - i have no reson to doubt, equally, not enough reason to trust the integrity of the message convayed..it may apply to certain sections of what we call our integral population, humanity.. but we may not be as integral...supposing we are all some kind of hybrids -genetically messed with over the eons..but i have not heard that our essence, our souls can be messed with, in which case we must come from very different places and our collective may not be as unified..just speculating because i don't know..

do you get any messages yourself? would you call yourself a channel to a degree? if so, i'd be likely to believe you as much as i believe the lady with reiki training with a phisicyst husband..best l

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Well, let me do some funneling!!
But no, I am not actively sitting down with the intention to do it.
On very rare occasions I hear a clear voice without asking, which has given me short instructions what to do or what not to do. For me its my Guardian Angel, because the voice always warned me ahead of physical danger. But that’s very, very rare. No educational info has been passed this way.
The other source of info you might call intuition/guts/resonance etc.. That has drawn me towards the C channelling.
25 years ago my girlfriend was dragging me once to a ouija-board session, because she was very much into it. I went with her despite the fact that I “knew” that it was not right for me. Promptly the “spirit“ rejected me, which was proof for me that a kind of auto suggestive component was involved. I did not wanted to fool myself. We were just completely unprepared and were innocently playing with fire. Its very easy to get “attachments” this way.
In the end you have to look inside yourself to feel whether the info "resonates" with you.
For that i suggest you go to their webside. They have been asking themselves all these questions and have probed and tested the link many times. They were of course afraid to fool themselves. What i read about their "journey" convinced me to continue reading, i am very suspicious myself.
I recommend not to reject the info without really testing into it.

How about your involuntary channelling?
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how do you know you don't come with an "attachment" having attended a seance at the time?

i looked up that link and the first few lines of laura's/cassiopean conversation sent me up the wall - when a fine difference between commanding/asking/begging/pleading is made..not possible to gather what was meant..things like that put me right off...

my involuntary channeling made me search and find camelot, also brought me to this forum..i don't/i haven't tried for it...this is why i am guessing that it's happening to a lot of people and my being here is my way of learning to discearn. i feel that diffferent et factions are fighting for our attention and it's hard to tell who's integrious and who isn't..the whole thing it seems is in keeping with the time we're in..

i'd be a littele nervous if voices were telling me what to do/not to do... best l

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I got you: The editing was not quick enough !!

Its about widening our boundaries. But, you can burst like a baloon with too much air in it, if you are not careful.
And honestly I do not know whether I should recommend to you to read further. It can be a very rough ride and I do not want to throw you off track. Maybe its better you start and finish with the RA LoO first and come back later.
Good advice ?

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i started up with the main text - didn't study your intro as much at first., so i overlooked the link.. as soon as i posted a comment you masterfully "caught", i looked back and found what i first did not see...and just like i put previously, these lines put me totally off - it's when the cassiopean explains Laura (the channell) what makes her integrious as opposed to other ones
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Q: (L) What quality in us, what thing, enabled us to make contact. Because, obviously a lot of people try and get garbage.
A: You asked.
Q: (L) A lot of people ask!
A: No they don't, they command.
Q: (L) Well, a lot of people do ask or beg or plead, but they get all discombobulated with the answers.
A: No, they command. Think about it. You did not beg or plead... that is commanding.
understanding pleading/begging as commanding i have problem with..i maybe missing a hidden meaning altogether..my idea is to get some things clarified not more confused..this for me is a fine example of a non integrious, confusing answer..

i detect one's ego there and you are right a lot of air..it's best to rely on sources of our own choice, but thanks for you advice anyway. best wishes l

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Hi light,
congrats for the bravery/stubbornness to come back.
Before going deeper, let me make some observations here:
First, yesterday you took my advise to go through LoO first before coming back. But less than 12 hours you are here again. Unless you can really read a 300 page book in a few hours (which I know is possible), you are not supposed to be here, according to your own accepted situation. That alone tells me that you are most likely very young. I must warn you: The content of this thread can be very unsettling, and might not be digestible for young minds. There is a saying “Curiosity kills a cat”, or in this case a young lion. There is a lot of meaning to it.
Second, thank you for applying the label “masterfully” to me. But what makes you believe that I do have an understanding of what I posted? Maybe I have just copy/paste something to create a reputable impression on this forum? Then you may say that alone questioning my own abilities makes me more trustworthy. But all that can be a clever ruse of an intelligent Alien Reptilian, aimed to convince you that Vampirism is a good thing.
Third, you may have noticed that i edited a line out of my last reply. I am thinking, for the sake of authenticy of the discussion, to re-insert that line. Is that ok for you?
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Second Wave book (Soul Hackers) arrived in the mail! Lots of catching up to do to make it to the latest stuff (Wave 7?) then very keen to read the "Secret History Of The World- and how to get out alive" book by her....

Thanks again for lighting the flame, I have been hoping for a thread on this for the last year. Its hard to be everywhere at once.

Keep on rocking Bashi! Love your work.

P.S. Channeling changed my life for the better!! I am a creature of love... many years ago I was a very tortured nocturnal soul, a lost child of light in a world of the deepest darkness. Positive transformation does occur, read more enlightening books would be my number 1 advice to young people to heal their lives.
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dear bashi

i haven't/i am not accepting any situation you are describing..

do not want to read any published channelled material. i am interested in what people on this forum have to say from their own experiences..thanks for your concern for my spiritual wellbeing but it is not needed.

just to recap: what i am here for is to hear from other people on this interesting thread and i will be coming back, no bravery involved...

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P.S. Channeling changed my life for the better!! I am a creature of love... many years ago I was a very tortured nocturnal soul, a lost child of light in a world of the deepest darkness. Positive transformation does occur, read more enlightening books would be my number 1 advice to young people to heal their lives.
may i know how your channelled messages come - verbally or thelepathically?
thanks

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dear bashi

i haven't/i am not accepting any situation you are describing..

do not want to read any published channelled material. i am interested in what people on this forum have to say from their own experiences..thanks for your concern for my spiritual wellbeing but it is not needed.

just to recap: what i am here for is to hear from other people on this interesting thread and i will be coming back, no bravery involved...

Hi luminari

may i know how your channelled messages come - verbally or thelepathically?
thanks

best wishes l
Well they don't come Thelepathically.

I didn't mean I was doing the channeling silly..

Just wanted to showcase the transformational power of the inner eschelon of the most profound channeled literature works.

We have born witness to inner miracles and would love for some other people who may be not feeling very "peachy" right now to share the bliss.

You will know if Extra-Terrestrial channeled information is right for you at this moment in time/space.

Universally Yours.
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Lumi: How are the "Soul Hackers"?
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Hello all. Just been going through the'wave' book. At times it annoyed me but for some reason I kept going at it, think there is something that rings true with me.
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Lumi: How are the "Soul Hackers"?
Will get back to you on that.

Finishing; 'Transylvanian Sunrise' & 'The Book of Ramadosh- 13 Annunaki techniques..'

Have a big pile of new books waiting to be consumed... very little time however.
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I do not believe this particular message.....I think it is truth mixed with lies...
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