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Old 02-23-2010, 07:52 PM   #1
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Default UFOs that disguise themselves as airplanes or helicopters?

I've heard of them referred to as shapeshifters, and also pretenders. All I know is they seem to be factoring in to my awareness an awful lot lately. I've had a few personal sightings of these things myself, including soundless aircraft, lights blinking and strobing in unusual ways, and just simply unmarked helicopters that seem to be always in their company.

But other than all those videos by Alison Kruse, and her spin-offs, I'm not finding much information on these types of UFOs. Can anyone point me to some good info about them?

I find lots of stuff about UFOs pretending to be stars, which is pretty cool because I saw one pretending to be Venus one time... but not too much about the airplane ones.
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Old 02-23-2010, 08:02 PM   #2
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I have seen one that started out as a star like object in the upper atmosphere, then it made a 30 degree turn at high speed, then it slowed down, dimmed down, and suddenly had marker lights on it.
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Old 02-24-2010, 01:12 PM   #3
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^ Oh wow, so maybe the ones who pretend to be stars and the ones who pretend to be aircraft are one in the same? Interesting. Thanks for chiming in here!

Anyone else? I know some of you have some actual info about these things. I'm trying to "place them." I want to know if anyone already knows who they are and if they are here simply to be spectators, or if they are participating in something. There's too many of them for me to have witnessed a family on an intergalactic vacation.
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Old 02-24-2010, 01:19 PM   #4
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Iíve heard George Green mention these a few times and saying the ones that disguise themselves as stars are actually huge mother ships.
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Old 02-24-2010, 01:25 PM   #5
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I find lots of stuff about UFOs pretending to be stars, which is pretty cool because I saw one pretending to be Venus one time... but not too much about the airplane ones.
Well, I have one possible explanation for you:

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Old 02-24-2010, 04:51 PM   #6
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Dont know how legit these clips are but it caught my attention........

http://www.youtube.com/user/RodsUFOFiles
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Old 02-24-2010, 05:11 PM   #7
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caught this one from my balcony...
pretending to be an airplane, changing shape and simulating aircraft navigation lights...

small vid http://elnagual.info/ufo/ufo.html


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Old 02-24-2010, 05:12 PM   #8
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I have seen one that started out as a star like object in the upper atmosphere, then it made a 30 degree turn at high speed, then it slowed down, dimmed down, and suddenly had marker lights on it.
I have observed this also it becomes a little obvious when you see them

hovering stationary or observe them being three times the size of a normal

airplane flying 2 thousand feet up going just under a hundred miles an hour.

I point them out to people all the time not telling them what it is some people

become curios and ask what is that others just can't tell the difference.
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Old 02-24-2010, 06:24 PM   #9
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Nagual, those were great pics, thanks!

Truthseeker, that guy Rod has some excellent videos. I just looked at a few of the orb vids and they seemed legit to me. I'm going to look more at them. From what I could tell at a glance, he focuses a lot on the alleged connection between chemtrails and them, with many of the vids showing closeups of bizarre-looking airplanes with no markings and two-tone paint jobs. I'll be looking at these more, thanks!

Gita, that's very interesting about the motherships. One thing that stands out about my sighting of the fake venus ufo was that it seemed to be somehow distorting my depth perception, and alternated between looking like it was a small drone-sized craft only a hundred feet up or so, over my neighbor's house, to looking like it was a huge bright light way up in space. It was the first time I ever got the impression that UFOs had control over how they appear to us, or at least to me.

Would any of you dowsers care to dowse any info about them?

This is great, keep it coming!

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Old 02-24-2010, 07:22 PM   #10
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This is great, keep it coming!
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here is a couple videos I took from my back porch! I have seen many more "interesting" "things' since then but I purchased a video card and soon as I did it caused my camera to malfunctionn! I have since got it working again but got out of practice of shooting video as much. I have seen "stars' like this...do circles...and zig zags...even left and right and up and down as they seem to be psychically answering my questionings.

These Videos are of the same "star" that was in the sky March 2009 and was in the sky every night for several days. There is lots out there...Just go outside at night and LOOK UP!!! WAY UP!!! There was just two interesting ones over my home for a while and Northern Boy confirmed seeing these too







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Old 02-26-2010, 02:52 AM   #11
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Default UFOs patrolling the skies

I see some weird stuff in the sky around where I live every now and then (swear i was even a few hundred feet from one that landed or was hovering close to the ground) but tonight....theres an explosion of activity. For the past almost an hour I've been watching like 5 crafts going back and forth in the sky. They stop motionless for long extended periods of time - their glow changing in intensity (they get pretty freaking bright) and then they move and change their light pattern to look like a plane and travel at constant speed. many times they pass right over each other....way to many times to be coincidence. It's almost way too obvious. This has to be going on in other places. Anyone else seeing anything today/tonight?
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Old 02-26-2010, 02:59 AM   #12
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I have a Video archived at Home on My Personal PC that shows a Hologram in action used in the way described by the Original Poster of this Thread.

Its a Hind Mi-24 Russian Helicopter - Or what appears to be, until You watch It fly. I'll upload it to Youtube when I get home so You can all see a Hologram in action - Thereby giving You the Understanding that what You're seeing is not always what You think You're seeing...

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Old 02-26-2010, 09:25 AM   #13
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Upliftment for the Common I AM that We ARE...



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Old 02-26-2010, 12:35 PM   #14
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I believe the reason for the rotor blades being still/slowing down is an illusion from the slower frame rate of the camera.
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Old 02-26-2010, 05:52 PM   #15
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http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2007/0...nless-hel.html
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Old 02-26-2010, 06:10 PM   #16
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On another thread there is an interview with Ken klein. he says that UFO can shapeshift into an airplane or a helicopter...
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Old 02-27-2010, 12:37 AM   #17
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I believe the reason for the rotor blades being still/slowing down is an illusion from the slower frame rate of the camera.
Not to be Harsh but You read My explanation about that in the Video as I knew that would be the Classic response didn't You ? Meaning You viewed the Video right ?

The Collective (Rear) Rotor and the Main Rotor (Top) are variable thrust engines meaning they're throttled either up or down so as to provide Flight. While what You describe can be true at certain RPM Ranges of the Engines as They operate - What You and others on the Web are suggesting is that the Video Camera - Or a Video Camera viewing this scene - Would adjust It's speed to that of these Rotors as They slowed down or sped up to facilitate the Flight Manoevers You see this Aircraft perform.

So then with the response given quoted above - You're trying to say that this Video Camera or a Video Camera viewing this scene would adjust It's speed accordingly just to stay at the same Cyclic Rate necesary so as to produce this Effect - No matter what RPM Range these Rotors were Operating at ?



BTW if You are unawares - BOTH Rotors - HAVE TO vary Their speeds so as to accomplish these Manoevers - Point-blank...



Please Discern - I put this Info in the Video...
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Old 02-27-2010, 12:45 AM   #18
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In my opinion there are two kinds of alien UFOs, the one is an orb like entity that isn't a ship but can appear like it because it will often have the same shape such as an oval. The other kind is a nut-and-bolts solid physical craft with anti gravitic properties often appearing as a disc or saucer shape.

A lot of other UFOs are actually man made craft and are very often confused with alien because of the obvious back engineering efforts of the black projects there are some similiarities, but the man made craft is no where near advanced as the alien craft.

Basically, if you see an unknown craft, that appears like a typical UFO, and even if its silent, if it does not display capabilities defying the known laws of physics, then its probably human. However if you see something thats basically warping back and forth between dimensions (or however we can say it), then its definitely alien. The alien craft is interdimensional, the human craft is not.

Disclaimer, this is just my opinion.
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Old 02-27-2010, 01:06 AM   #19
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sorry
Id seen it before on utube so i did not read the end.

I did notice that the rotors do cast a shadow as if they are still.
Id love to hear some responses to how and why..
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Old 02-27-2010, 03:55 AM   #20
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This thread caught my eye because about 25 years ago I was at a get together at a friends house. The people there were pretty much believers in UFOs and all that. My friend had an experience as a Boy Scout on a camp out where everyone at the camp had seen an aircraft and I think it had landed although the details were sketchy because my friend didn't like to talk about it and would clam up when pressed for details.
Anyway I went outside for a smoke and I saw what looked to be a flying saucer flying near a mountain about half a mile away. I sat there and watched hardly able to believe what I was looking at. I was thinking OK this is it, I am looking at a full on flying saucer. As it got closer I got a little scared cuz I didn't want to get picked up or whatever. Then I heard the prop, and the sound of an a small airplane echoed off the range. After a minute I could tell it was a Cessna or some other prop plane with Christmas Lights draped around it to look like a flying saucer. I don't know who would do something like that or why.

In any case my post may be a little off topic however It did remind me of that experience. During that time frame I was amazed on a daily bases regarding an open secret (nothing to do with UFOs) that as far as I could tell about 1 in 5 people were aware of and no one talks about openly, especially me. So I guess at the time it wasn't such a big deal to see an airplane dressed up like a UFO.

On a different occasion during the same time frame I was at a hang glider port on the Cali Coast when I saw 3 yellow dwarf jets flying in formation. They had what looked like a standard military Jet escort. I got a phone call regarding the pix I had shot and was told to forget it, and I did. I figure 25 years later its no longer news, because I have seen that aircraft online, otherwise I'm sure I would still be forgetting about it.
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