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Old 03-06-2010, 06:56 AM   #1
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Default Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford

From ben's blog

The Amero plan is back, this time backed by gold: BIS source

The US dollar is about to be replaced by the Amero at a rate of two dollars to one Amero, according to a high level financial source in Switzerland. The Amero will replace the US and Canadian dollars and the Mexican peso, he says. It will be backed by Mexican and Canadian gold, the source adds.

The decision was made at a high level within the Western secret government, he says. The introduction of the Amero will be followed by a dismantling of the Federal Reserve Board, he says. Once the announcement is made, people will have exactly 30 days to convert their dollars to Ameros before the dollars become worthless.

The Western government does not want to cede control of its financial system to China so a decision was made to go with the gold-backed Amero, he says.

Of course many holders of dollars may decide to opt away from the Amero and trade their dollars for other currencies, notably the Chinese yuan and the Hong Kong dollar.

We will seek to confirm this news from other sources and will provide updates if necessary.

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

This will probably direct alot of people to sites like infowars and rense when this happens, which even though are mostly fear mongering disinfo, they will really help to wake alot of people up.

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Old 03-06-2010, 07:02 AM   #2
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On one hand, the amero and NAU. On the other hand, the dismantling of the Federal Reserve.

I would prefer the latter but not the former.
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Old 03-06-2010, 07:12 AM   #3
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the question I ask is if dollars are worthless then all debt must be extinguished as they are dollar based so at the fall of the dollar they will need your approval to allow this to happen so then all cards go on the table and we negotiate
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Old 03-06-2010, 07:18 AM   #4
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the question I ask is if dollars are worthless then all debt must be extinguished as they are dollar based so at the fall of the dollar they will need your approval to allow this to happen so then all cards go on the table and we negotiate
northern boy,.... so let's say you have a huge debt for a house or a federal student loan, once the amero is in place, won't they just convert the debt into amero?
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Old 03-06-2010, 07:22 AM   #5
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northern boy,.... so let's say you have a huge debt for a house or a federal student loan, once the amero is in place, won't they just convert the debt into amero?
I imagine that at 2 dollars to an Amero, your debt would probably at least double in Ameros.

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Old 03-06-2010, 08:29 AM   #6
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I imagine that at 2 dollars to an Amero, your debt would probably at least double in Ameros.

the other way around, if you owe 500K on your home you would owe 250K in Amero
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Old 03-06-2010, 08:55 AM   #7
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the other way around, if you owe 500K on your home you would owe 250K in Amero
that makes more sense, but this Amero ting wont happen. Fulford is full of sheit man....
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Old 03-09-2010, 07:26 AM   #8
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that makes more sense, but this Amero ting wont happen. Fulford is full of sheit man....
Agree totally; up to his eye balls!

Trading one Central Bank for another alleged to be gold backed???

Is there enough gold in the universe to back the dollars already issued and stolen? This alone should be a hint at the value of this information.

However, will some currency conversion be the excuse to outlaw gold and require it be turned in for a specified price as stolen from Americans during the depression?

American PEOPLE, not government, need to take control over our vote counting and the laws regulating the debates as they've "regulated" out competition.
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Old 03-06-2010, 09:25 AM   #9
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Thanks, Derek! Hopefully this brings stability on lots of levels.
The Amero is a currency that's talked about for a long time, already.
As the change in the United States, becoming seperate sovereign States.
Do you agree? Or is this wishful thinking? Here in Europe, the formation of a centralised ruling system in Brussels, is viewed with very mixed feelings and the privatisation of former government services, like healthcare, public transport, farming and schoolsystem, has lead to the a decline of quality and human values, increasing a burocratic bulk of regulations and abstract concepts, somewhat similar to the concept of the invisible money system, where money flows are not backed up by real gold. In Holland we call that baked air. But in a way, I am still happier to live in Holland than in the USA.
What do you think?
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Old 03-06-2010, 10:06 AM   #10
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It is my understanding that Canada is in a much much better position than USA or Mexico...it seem very unlikely to me that Canada would just simply abandon this position and accept Amero...than again...the politicians are just actors so they do not care...but the people of Canada just might....

i wonder now...if the consequence of this "recent" decision (according to Fulford) will result in a plan for asian union...."accidentally" as a contra effect....it might be even "funny" since this would finally show us who is who....

the n.american union and asian union have been planned for a long time
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Old 03-06-2010, 10:44 AM   #11
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Amero or dollar...dollar or amero...amero or dollar!!!!!!!

Let confuse you even more....

http://www.newmoney.gov/newmoney/main.aspx?id=5415

Is Fulford becomming a Bullford!!!!!!

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Old 03-06-2010, 01:13 PM   #12
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How many times what he said came to past?
He is full of it, with great imagination and telling what people want to here.
Many times contradicting himself, dragon vs slayers

I wonder how much longer he will be quoted?!

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Old 03-06-2010, 01:26 PM   #13
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probably a fed plan to begin with.. the fed gets dismantled and they won't get audited or held accountable for what they have done... all done in a few secret meetings... over a weekend... at some hidden far-off location.. under super-high security... yada yada... _ucken scumbags

easy peasy... lemon squeezie!!
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Old 03-06-2010, 11:21 PM   #14
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It is my understanding that Canada is in a much much better position than USA or Mexico...it seem very unlikely to me that Canada would just simply abandon this position and accept Amero...than again...the politicians are just actors so they do not care...but the people of Canada just might....
Well let's put it a different way...

The Fed has it's roots in England and has been used to control America...

Now we are about to merge with Canada that isn't one nation under God... It is one nation under the Queen...

It get's my VETO...
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Old 03-06-2010, 11:29 PM   #15
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another "good" news from the "outside" world: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Saturday called the September 11 attacks on the United States a "big fabrication" that was used to justify the U.S. war on terrorism, the official IRNA news agency reported.


It is "official" and before that a meeting in Damascus....it would seem it does not matter anymore to remain silent. Either Fulford is right and the "rulers" have lost the control or Iran is 100% there will be war and is just simply saying it....

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/...?_r=3&emc=eta1

guesses....guesses....guesses....
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hey the little chimp has been reading our forum, let's hope he is passing on what he is learning to the organ grinder...
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guesses....guesses....guesses....
Re the 'illuminati insider' thread...

The only person I came close to actually believing was an Illuminati insider is Leo Zagami, but his connection to this Fulford guy pretty much put me off for good from believing any of them. We have to take information from folks like these with the tiniest grain of salt, in my humble opinion.
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Did you watched Games in Vancouver? Canadians are proud of Canada...they will not replace for....United North America....Gassing...?


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Well let's put it a different way...

The Fed has it's roots in England and has been used to control America...

Now we are about to merge with Canada that isn't one nation under God... It is one nation under the Queen...

It get's my VETO...
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Well let's put it a different way...

The Fed has it's roots in England and has been used to control America...

Now we are about to merge with Canada that isn't one nation under God... It is one nation under the Queen...

It get's my VETO...
Sadly, none of us are "one nation under God" so far, as we are "one world under globalist control". Let's examine the statement: "The Amero is good"... with a slight re-phrase: "Money is good". Impossible. So long as any society is based on "government" currency, we are under government ("One World") control. It is called The Beast System, and regardless of what the current dollar looks like or what it is named it is still a fraud against the people.

If anything, I see a devaluation - but only for command and control purposes. If the "chipping of the population" is part of their plan, as prophecy suggests, we may see a connection to the numerous top corporate executives who have inexplicably retired recently. They certainly have "got out of the money" haven't they? Likely, onto soil where they can grow their own food as many here have suggested. It is the only way... we absolutely are going to need to learn to remove ourselves from their "system" in order to survive. Especially when - in order to control us - they will utilize such things as the health care system, vaccinations, threats, false flag events... or how about hurricanes, earthquakes or tsunamis?

They really do have near-complete control over these things now, believe it or not. You name it. They are ruthless and evil. And if that's not enough, take that group of soldiers in the middle east who "surrendered" their weapons after having completely dismantled them piece by piece prior to then surrendering themselves - enter electronic mind control. Who needs "conspiracy theories" when most of the so-called 'theories' are already old news/technology? Ultimately, if they don't control by getting into our heads and controlling our very thoughts and emotions through their electronic means (Dr. John Hall - Project Camelot Radio, February 18th) and literally whispering thoughts into our minds, they'll just poison us through the toxins or illness they also control through various means (i.e. chemicals in food/air/water, genetically modified food) or nano- (as in powder) implants that modify our genetics.

Believe it or not, I am not trying to be a "downer" here, just realistic. There is no question that all of these things I mention exist and have been used - many for decades. It's time to face reality and unplug from this system as much as possible.

We need to return to neighborhood and family values, community. To ma 'n pa, and Farmer's markets mentality, including LETS-type trading equivalents. Remove the "bad guys" from our own lives, as they are most certainly not going to remove themselves from ours after all the centuries of pulling the wool over so many eyes for profit and control. And as for these so-called falseflag events - I think we pretty much all know that each time these events are perpetrated, they must become greater and more damaging - not only to physical property and lives but to our psyches as well. There are no good-guys in the right places anymore, or at least not enough of them. That went the way of the past when we began realizing JFK actually tried to make change for the people rather than against the people, and we will never forget what the result of his efforts were.

Our children, parents, brothers and sisters are being flocked like sheep into foreign countries, truly believing they are part of the solution... creators of peace, when they are being used as pawns on the game board of the controller's whose only intention is to ensure their wealth continues to grow as our futures continue to look more bleak and challenging every day. And I can barely stand to imagine the future for our children with these Satan-worshiping aliens at the helm. They are the epitome of evil, which stands to reason considering their "daddy" is a different daddy than mine.

Let us remember that "national pride" is not that created by government, the very government that leads many to believe we are actually "choosing" who to put in the driver's seat in the first place. It is scam after scam, and while we have become complacent from decade after decade of the same garbage, let us no become implicit in our own demise by failing to take ownership of the truth. This world is far from the paradise so many imagine, hope for or "meditate on" in their quest for something real and good. So remember, the "great nation/s" is us - "We The People" - and it is ultimately up to us to cause any change for the better at all. Speak up, speak out and dare to bare your beliefs from your heart rather than get caught-up in the egoistic habit of trying to prove a point that takes us nowhere. If we don't acknowledge the need for massive change and improvement but instead la-tee-da along trying to talk ourselves into believing either our governments or some off-planet advanced beings are going to save the day we are sadly mistaken.

There are a lot of really good people here... amazing, intelligent and thoughtful people. Let's get out into our communities, talk with our neighbors and start a new debate. The debate that determines what is going to win and work for all of us, not what is going to just ourselves ahead of everyone else. It's just a matter of remembering who we are, not what we have become through our "training".

America, Canada, Mexico, whomever - that doesn't really matter right now... may God bless the planet. and all of us who are "visiting" for a time.

That's how I feel. But who am I to say?
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America, Canada, Mexico, whomever - that doesn't really matter right now... may God bless the planet. and all of us who are "visiting" for a time.

That's how I feel. But who am I to say?
Hi Tobias,

Thanks for joining us...

The thought of breaking off into small communities is a great thought, but I'm afraid it would takes a massive decline in world population to make it happen...

95% of the worlds population is in Major metro areas...

So to take these people and spread them out onto lands that would allow for farming and living self sustained, there isn't enough room...

total landmass of the world divided by population would mean each person gets 3000 Sq feet land, but used for farming cuts that to 10% 300 ft that's 10x30 including living space... If each person lived in a 10x10' closet a 20x10' plot doesn't produce enough food in a year to feed a person for a month...

That's where the whole idea of breaking into small communities gets pretty tough...

I'm afraid we are going to have to find ways for our large cities to continue being fed through grocery stores...

The other option is an agenda none of us want to think about...
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Hi Tobias,

Thanks for joining us...

The thought of breaking off into small communities is a great thought, but I'm afraid it would takes a massive decline in world population to make it happen...

95% of the worlds population is in Major metro areas...

So to take these people and spread them out onto lands that would allow for farming and living self sustained, there isn't enough room...

total landmass of the world divided by population would mean each person gets 3000 Sq feet land, but used for farming cuts that to 10% 300 ft that's 10x30 including living space... If each person lived in a 10x10' closet a 20x10' plot doesn't produce enough food in a year to feed a person for a month...

That's where the whole idea of breaking into small communities gets pretty tough...

I'm afraid we are going to have to find ways for our large cities to continue being fed through grocery stores...

The other option is an agenda none of us want to think about...
It's my pleasure to have the opportunity to join in some dialogue! Thanks for the kind welcome!

Your comment was so interesting, because it underscored exactly what I have mentioned many times (i.e. on The Waterman Files, or the Chronicles articles) about "community"... although there is a difference with what you said as well.

Let me explain... We've had a lot of discussion on the show about "community" and I mentioned that I have noticed a lot of people "dismiss" everything that follows that word - almost without realizing it . I've had some concerned emails from folks as well on the topic. When people hear the word community, I think a big part of the challenge is that they get a vision or picture in their head/feeling in their stomach that I can only describe as feeling like community is too similar to cult, or communal living, or other similar situations that involve a loss of privacy (or even identity!). I believe, and have had many discussions with John Waterman about this as well, that the community we describe is actually more of a mentality than it is a physical/locational endeavor.

This is why, if you notice, I said:
We need to return to neighborhood and family values, community. To ma 'n pa, and Farmer's markets mentality, etc.

I completely agree with you when you describe the challenges of arranging a mass-scale "living arrangement" where, to make it quite literal, the farmers would cooperate in feeding the large cities, and the city people would somehow contribute to the farmers. Although I think that could be worked out, it would likely require a re-take of the last few centuries to accomplish! Totally see what you mean.

So to finish my thought, by "mentality" and "values" what I really mean is to get back to the way of neighborhood that once thrived in America... notwithstanding the white picket fences, we need to be able to say "hellloo" to our neighbors (especially in the cities) and watch out for one another... These are the things that have contributed to societal decay. It is much like what Jim Rawles mentioned recently... that the time is coming when - in order to survive - we will need our "blockwatchers", need to keep our eyes open much wider for our local groups and areas. This is especially true when/if faced with emergency situations such as those that many fear right now - a monetary collapse, EMP's from the sun, earth changes, etc.

I don't know how we will achieve this prior to events occurring. This is the saddest and most concerning thing to me. Has the fabric of our society really ripped apart so fiercely that it is no longer possible? I sure hope not.

But that's just some of my thoughts. Who am I to say?

Hope that made some sense, it is way past my bedtime!
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Don't think for a second that Fulford can't be manipulated just as easily as anyone else.
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It's my pleasure to have the opportunity to join in some dialogue! Thanks for the kind welcome!

I don't know how we will achieve this prior to events occurring. This is the saddest and most concerning thing to me. Has the fabric of our society really ripped apart so fiercely that it is no longer possible? I sure hope not.

But that's just some of my thoughts. Who am I to say?

Hope that made some sense, it is way past my bedtime!
Well what you said does make sense but the strange thing is I am watching as it is naturally evolving that direction.

As the economy has continued to worsen less and less people are putting in the 16-18 hour days.

As families have lost there big nest eggs, it hasn't split them apart, it has drawn them back together.

I am watching families that were separated for years drawn back together relocating from out of state back within a quick drive of each other.

Neighbors that have loss their jobs and incomes are being helped by other neighbors, a man in mine was a cold hearted workaholic he would honk as he stepped on the pedal seeing a dog crossing the road...

well times have changed, he has lost it all on the verge of losing his home. The other day he was out in his yard and I watched this little lady walk over and hand him a large plate of food freshly cooked with care in her kitchen...

From a distance I could see this gift was more welcome than a pile of gold, I could feel him at the point of tears with happiness...

The changes are happening right before our eyes...

Communities and families are coming together the way it was meant to be...
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Please, refrain from posting comments that have nothing to do with the subject in hand. Leave that sort of thing for the godlikeproductions forum where you got the image from.

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Point taken (about the pic).

To be clear I was just stating my opinion.
What I find childish is constant referance to a guy who has vivid imagination,
that fools many and his amazing stories never came to past/or at least I don't recall anything that he said happening.
I understand and respect constructive discusion, where we evaluate different scenarios. With fulford's information or gossips, can easily quote Einstein's insanity definition
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