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Old 09-14-2008, 01:26 PM   #1
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Default George Green's Magnetic Motor

Assuming all have seen this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkgyY47duCM

Has anyone experimented with it?

Could it be used to turn an alternator to charge a battery?
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Old 09-14-2008, 01:55 PM   #2
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Assuming all have seen this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkgyY47duCM

Has anyone experimented with it?

Could it be used to turn an alternator to charge a battery?
What you are seeing is like one of those pump driven spinning tops - the spring is the magnetic repulsion and the subtle movement up and down of the supporting hand drives the disc's rotation. It has been reported that when the top magnet is held rigid, say clamped, there is no rotation.

Lovely toy though.

I am sure that there are going to be ways of harvesting free energy, but I dont think this is it.
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Old 09-14-2008, 02:25 PM   #3
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It has been reported that when the top magnet is held rigid, say clamped, there is no rotation.
So why clamp it?

Could it be supported by springs?
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:10 PM   #4
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The magnetic motor from Lutec looked very promising, but it will never make the market place. Go on their website (http://www.lutec.com.au/) and you'll see the following message scrolling across the screen.

Product release date postponed indefinitely due to possible Transfer of Technology negotiations.

What the hell does that all mean? Basically, they've been knobbled.

Here are some interesting magnetic motors.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8fR3vBB1Yn0&NR=1 (Amish power?)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6_41bt...eature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8utqgS7es7k (disappeared)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oyzFk3...eature=related (I like this 1)
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:36 PM   #6
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this looks familiar
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Old 09-14-2008, 11:34 PM   #7
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Makes a nice Low friction bearing

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xuZcHVT5YRs

http://www.overunity.org.uk/hamelvideos.htm

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Old 09-15-2008, 05:01 AM   #8
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The magnetic top shown by George Green is spinning because of following reason:

The missing magnet in the outer ring creates an ex-centered potential well in the magnetic potential energy, this potential well creates a magnetic force applied to the magnetic top; as the top is drifting to the center of that well it is submitted to a torque aligning its axis to the external magnetic field and a no-slip frictional force at the contact point between the ball and the table, the non alignment of this frictional force and the magnetic force create a torque causing the spinning of the ball...

All this can be put into equations and simulated; you can check the simulations (movies) and the paper at
http://www.acm.caltech.edu/~owhadi/BallisticTransport/

You can also check experimentally that friction is the caused of the rotation by trying the experiment on a slippery surface (ice...)

So the system is actually not "creating" energy but dissipating the energy introduced by the motion of the outer ring through friction...

This being said some funky things (no "energy creation") happen if you add noise to the system

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Old 09-15-2008, 08:29 AM   #9
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I believe that there will come a day very soon when everyone who is nay-saying the reality of magnet driven generators with limitless electrical production capabilities will finally eat their words. (the day has probably already come, but was suppressed...imo)

The biggest problem is that people have the spins of the magnetic vortexes all wrong.

I recommend checking out Spintronics - The Secret World of Magnets by Howard Johnson.

I've also got a short video that I believe offers some insights here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F45pu2dkeJI
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:22 AM   #10
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George is the truth and anyone with 3 eyes open can tell
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:40 PM   #11
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George is the truth and anyone with 3 eyes open can tell
Most truth is personal.
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Old 09-15-2008, 02:20 PM   #12
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I have a lot of respect for George Green and what he is doing and saying… the 4 books he published (handbook for a new paradigm… message for the ground crew) are IMO “extremely” important…
However I believe that people have still show discernment with respect to any piece of information, whatever/whoever the source of that information may be…
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Old 09-15-2008, 08:56 PM   #13
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i don't understand why people still don't believe in magnetic motors
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Old 09-21-2008, 01:09 AM   #14
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I admit, this one has me intrigued, , ,


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8fR3vBB1Yn0&NR=1 (Amish power?)

I had been re-searching for this video, thank you.
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Old 09-21-2008, 05:47 AM   #15
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I admit, this one has me intrigued, , ,


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8fR3vBB1Yn0&NR=1 (Amish power?)

I had been re-searching for this video, thank you.


This one is better:

OverUnity Water Heater


This is another good one:

Fuelless Motor

I have the plans for this one if anyone wants them. I actually have all the plans that those guys sell. The other interesting one is their Spiral Coil Generator but there is no video of it.
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Old 09-21-2008, 05:53 AM   #16
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I have the plans for this one if anyone wants them. I actually have all the plans that those guys sell. The other interesting one is their Spiral Coil Generator but there is no video of it.
Bluestix, I'd be interested if you could send me copies of the plans or post them here.

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Old 09-21-2008, 07:19 AM   #17
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If you are interested in the motor...

You should also stock up on the following before they run low on stock.

http://www.buydehydratedwater.com/free.htm


[Deleted by Bill Ryan - uncalled for insult]

The only kindof useful information I have seen you share was the link to lanl.arxiv.org

I did archive thousands of the documents from there.

You and I both know that if you actually work at Los Alamos then everything you do is monitored and your supposed anonymity is a joke so why bother with it?

[Response from BR: Henry does not work at Los Alamos.]

If you have good intentions then why don't you share some useful information?

[Response from BR: If you don't think the information Henry has been sharing is useful, you haven't been paying attention.]

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Old 09-21-2008, 07:54 AM   #18
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People should read ATLAS SHRUGGED by AYN RAND
It is a novel written in the forties that explains how the world will be taken over by the illuminati. It gives plans that are on target as we speak. It was a code book for the freemasons etc so they would know how to take over the world.
Very interesting read.
there is an motor too. forgive me for not having time to look over this site and info, just going on intution here
much love to all
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:16 PM   #19
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Howard Jonson's Magnet Motor uses the same principle as the George Green's Magnetic Motor:

http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/...tor/index.html


And here another magnetic motor; The Newman's Energy Machine:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/qmmv11.htm



A good info. to download in chapter 1:

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/
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Old 09-21-2008, 02:23 PM   #20
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If you are interested in the motor...

You should also stock up on the following before they run low on stock.

http://www.buydehydratedwater.com/free.htm

I'm really not sharing your sense of humour here Mr Deacon

myself like others are seriously starting to question your goals - but i guess u got 'project camelot immunity' so not much we can say here....
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Old 09-21-2008, 04:53 PM   #21
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http://www.buydehydratedwater.com/free.htm
me, this made me

Not everything you see on youtube is "free energy", in fact there is no free energy but transfer of energy (be it from zeropoint or something else), the really interesting point (beyond the display of various Gizmos) is to understand the mechanism behind this transfer of energy...

The "problem" with this field is that the real interesting information is lost in too much information (with dead ends)...

One of the Gizmos, that I have seen so far and I can't explain is Steven Mark's toroid generator (which, if my understanding is correct has been examined by multiple witnesses including a EE professor)

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Old 09-21-2008, 06:09 PM   #22
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Greetings Henry! Thankyou so much for your expertise on this subject.
I am so pleased that you are a part of Project Avalon.
I am learning greatly from your threads and posts and look very much forward to reading them.You are 'greatly appreciated'.Hope the sun is shining on you today.

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Old 09-21-2008, 06:26 PM   #23
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4qjZ...eature=related


the aussies are working on a magnetic generator. They claim it can power a home and run a small bussiness. I would cut 80% off your energy bills.
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:42 PM   #24
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this is not an attack on George Green....

but the demonstrated magnetic motor ... well, it just is not what people are led to believe it is.

i have never seen a permanent magnet motor function in the "real" world.

a 'permanent' magnet motor might function for a long period of time - where potential energy from a newly manufactured magnet is converted into kinetic energy via the gradual decaying magnetic field of said magnet. This is only utilizing energy which was 'put into' the magnet during its birth

:-)

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As for ZPE and related... yes, these concepts are viable and real.




Just so there is no confusion:

The plans I mentioned for the Fuelless Motor can be built using all electromagnets and has no need for any permanent magnets.
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:34 PM   #25
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Just so there is no confusion:

The plans I mentioned for the Fuelless Motor can be built using all electromagnets and has no need for any permanent magnets.
Bluestix,

Have you built the motor?
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