Barack Obama Planted?

[Son of Eire]

Originally Posted by End_Times012

He's NOT a Muslim for the 5,000th time. He's also not Barry Sotrero (sp?) or whatever the hell the right-wing smear machine wants to believe. When the man himself publicly debunks this ****, when will the right-wing sheeple get the hint and move on?

When will the left wing sheeple ie. YOU get the hint.They are all the same rotton to the core always have been ,always will.

[hueyii]

Turn off the news
stop reading conspiracy theories
meditate
vote the way your heart or "the source" tells you.

Mindless banter and deluded thinking doesnt serve the higher good. If you act out of love you cannot go wrong.

[raulduke]

Originally Posted by End_Times012

The term "race card" is a term invented by right-wing politicians and they pull out this handy little card whenever they think race has been invoked in a political manner.

I was really hoping not to have to argue semantics w/ you but, oh well here goes.
Wether you want to call it a race card or a race issue, surely you would agree that race, as an issue, exists and either campaign can selectively use it to their benefit as they see fit.
Please try to get past this left/right wing thinking. It's circular logic anyway.

Originally Posted by End_Times012

McCain doesn't have to use racism. His supporters have already done it for him. Did you read about a rally in Clearwater, FL where McCain/Palin supporters were openly calling for Obama's death? What about the rally where an older white male brought a toy monkey with an Obama shirt and when the camera panned to him, he pawned it off on a kid?

I'm not sure you actually read my original post, as right there, you have made my point.

Yes, I saw that rally and a more recent one where McCain was booed for saying Obama was a "decent man". He didn't say "good man" because that wouldn't play well nationaly for him, but he couldn't indulge the frenzied crowd either because that wouldn't play well either. The fact is that fear of "different" people (i.e; racism) is indeed prevalent in some sleepy backwaters, so tactics that are slightly more overtly racist, will play better. They "focus group" the sh*t out of the American public to find out our fears and desires and then craft rhetoric that they think wil resonte w/ said fears or desire.

Obama may well be a good man, and his original intentions for seeking the office of the president may have been noble. McCain too for that matter.
Frankly though, that is irrelevant because good men or not, niether would be where they are w/o some very powerful backers.
What does matter though, is that the hands up the backsides of these two candidates are connected to the same entity.

I'll quote Thunderbird as an example of how it might be very easy to co-opt a good man.

Originally Posted by Thunderbird

Whats interesting about this....

remember when his jet had to make an emergency landing a few months back?

pilot lost controls of the plane.

something about an emergency slide being deployed...

yeah well what they arent telling you is that someone got controls of the aircraft and used that to SCARE him into doing what he was told.

notice his demeanor changed right after that incident.

"hey do what we tell you or we will pull your card...see how easy it is?"

EDIT: Thunderbird was responding to a thread I wrote entitled "Has Barack Obama Already Been Comprimised?"

Originally Posted by End_Times012

There's also a saying out there: "If you didn't vote, don't complain.

I didn't say I wasn't voting. I'll vote for nader/gonzales. I'm sure you think that is throwing my vote away, but nader imo is a man uncorruptable.

[raulduke]

End_Times,

Your repsonses leave me wanting.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like I am making valid critiques of your arguments, and you are chucking out red herrings ("race card") like a fishmonger on friday.

Care to respond to anything I have written here w/o using semantics or circular logic?

[Dantheman62]

Give it to'em rd.LOL!

[mntruthseeker]

I just read an interesting article on the African Associate Press.....apparently mischelle obama called and ranted once again about the white racist. What is this if its not racism?

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/20...ephone-to-api/

[dutchie]

Originally Posted by peaceandlove

There is more than one other candidate.

Voting Your Conscience for a Third Party Candidate Is Not a Wasted Vote.

By Chuck Baldwin

When asked why they will not vote for a third party candidate, many people will respond by saying something like, "He cannot win." Or, "I don't want to waste my vote." It is true: America has not elected a third party candidate since 1860. Does that automatically mean, however, that every vote cast for one of the two major party candidates is not a wasted vote? I don't think so.

In the first place, a wasted vote is a vote for someone you know does not represent your own beliefs and principles. A wasted vote is a vote for someone you know will not lead the country in the way it should go. A wasted vote is a vote for the "lesser of two evils." Or, in the case of John McCain and Barack Obama, what we have is a choice between the "evil of two lessers."

Albert Einstein is credited with saying that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result. For years now, Republicans and Democrats have been leading the country in the same basic direction: toward bigger and bigger government; more and more socialism, globalism, corporatism, and foreign interventionism; and the dismantling of constitutional liberties. Yet, voters continue to think that they are voting for "change" when they vote for a Republican or Democrat. This is truly insane!

Take a look at the recent $700 billion Wall Street bailout: both John McCain and Barack Obama endorsed and lobbied for it. Both McCain and Obama will continue to bail out these international banksters on the backs of the American taxpayers. Both McCain and Obama support giving illegal aliens amnesty and a path to citizenship. In the debate this past Tuesday night, both McCain and Obama expressed support for sending U.S. forces around the world for "peacekeeping" purposes. They also expressed support for sending combat forces against foreign countries even if those countries do not pose a threat to the United States . Neither Obama nor McCain will do anything to stem the tide of a burgeoning police state or a mushrooming New World Order. Both Obama and McCain support NAFTA and similar "free trade" deals. Neither candidate will do anything to rid America of the Federal Reserve, or work to eliminate the personal income tax, or disband the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Both Obama and McCain support the United Nations. So, pray tell, how is a vote for either McCain or Obama not a wasted vote?

But, back to the "he cannot win" argument: to vote for John McCain is to vote for a man who cannot win. Yes, I am saying it here and now: John McCain cannot win this election. The handwriting is on the wall. The Fat Lady is singing. It is all over. Finished. John McCain cannot win.

With only three weeks before the election, Barack Obama is pulling away. McCain has already pulled his campaign out of Michigan . In other key battleground states, McCain is slipping fast. He was ahead in Missouri ; now it is a toss-up or leaning to Obama. A couple of weeks ago, Ohio , Pennsylvania , and Florida were all leaning towards McCain, or at least toss-up states. Now, they are all leaning to Obama. Even the longtime GOP bellwether state of Indiana is moving toward Obama. In addition, new voter registrations are at an all-time high, and few of them are registering as Republicans. In fact, the Republican Party now claims only around 25% of the electorate, and Independents are increasingly leaning toward Obama.

Ladies and gentlemen, Barack Obama is headed for an electoral landslide victory over John McCain. John McCain can no more beat Barack Obama than Bob Dole could beat Bill Clinton.

I ask, therefore, Are not conservatives and Christians who vote for John McCain guilty of the same thing that they accuse people who vote for third party candidates of doing? Are they not voting for someone who cannot win? Indeed, they are. In fact, conservatives and Christians who vote for John McCain are not only voting for a man who cannot win, they are voting for a man who does not share their own beliefs and principles. If this is not insanity, nothing is!

So, why not (for once in your life, perhaps) cast a vote purely for principle! Vote for someone who is truly pro-life. Someone who would quickly secure our nation's borders, and end the invasion of our country by illegal aliens. Someone who would, on his first day in office, release Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean and fire U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton. Someone who would immediately, upon assuming office, begin leading the charge to dismantle the Federal Reserve, overturn the 16th Amendment, expunge the IRS, and return America to sound money principles. Someone who would get the US out of the UN. Someone who would stop spending billions and trillions of dollars for foreign aid. Someone who would prosecute the Wall Street bankers who defrauded the American people out of billions of dollars. Someone who would work to repeal NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT, the WTO, and stop the NAFTA superhighway. Someone who would say a resounding "No" to the New World Order. Someone who would stop using our brave men and women in uniform as global cops for the United Nations. Someone who would stop America 's global adventurism and interventionism. Someone who would steadfastly support and defend the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

"Who is this person?" you ask. Go here to find out. baldwin08.com

As John Quincy Adams said, "Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."

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Chuck Baldwin is a candidate for president of the United States on the Constitution Party ticket. constitutionparty.com baldwin08.com

You are right on the money! The best truth I have seen yet on this forum, thank you

[RSF]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

I just read an interesting article on the African Associate Press.....apparently mischelle obama called and ranted once again about the white racist. What is this if its not racism?

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/20...ephone-to-api/

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Cool research. But how do you feel about colors? I mean, these are highly educated people living, working and campaigning in the American world. Is black a problem.. though it is with a % of McCain supporters.

Goodness gracious. Seems to me Obama's concepts and actions in office, will be a blessing to middle-class Americans. Especially American People w/an income -240.000.
What level are YOU at?
RSF