Please Sign Petition To Prevent 3 Billion Dying(Codex Alimentarius)

[Starlah]

Can you imagine 3 billion people dying globally under current Codex Alimentarius Guidelines which is scheduled worldwide for December 31/09?
It all began with a Nazi Hermann Schmitz and its completion will occur with Codex member the Nazi offshoot group Monsanto heavily involved.
Codex is a weapon being used to reduce the level of nutrition worldwide. Under Codex, nutrients are classified as poisons. Codex supports toxic food additives, pesticides and GM foods. Codex is legalized genocide.

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In 2001, 176 countries including the U.S. got together and decided that 12 highly toxic organic chemicals, known as persistent organic pollutants (POPS) were so bad that they had to be banned. There are many more than 12 toxic chemicals used on food, but these 12 were unanimously declared to be the worst. Of these, 9 are pesticides.

Under Codex, 7 of the 9 forbidden POPS will again be allowed in the production of food. All together, Codex allows over 3,275 different pesticides, including those that are suspected carcinogens or endocrine disrupters. There is no consideration of the long-term effects of exposure to mixtures of pesticide residues in food.

Organic food governance will be dumbed down to suit the interests of large food producers. Various synthetic chemical additives and processing aids will be allowed, and food labeled as organic may be irradiated. Labeling will permit the use of hidden, non-organic ingredients.

Monsanto, a member of Codex, will benefit greatly as production of genetically modified (GM) foods are stepped up and more GM plants are given the green light. Terminator seeds will be approved for international trade. GM food animals will also be on the way.

Under Codex, every dairy animal can be treated with growth hormone, and all animals in the food chain will be treated with sub-clinical levels of antibiotics, according to Dr. Laibow. She claims that Codex will lead to the required irradiation of all foods with the exception of those grown locally and sold raw.

Dr. Laiblow sees Codex as "food regulations that are in fact the legalization of mandated toxicity and under-nutrition". According to her, the WHO and FAO estimate that of the 3 billion people initially expected to die as the result of the Codex vitamin and mineral guidelines, 2 billion of them will die from the preventable diseases that result from under-nutrition, such as cancer, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and many others. Those who will live will be the wealthy elites who are able to somehow provide themselves with sources of clean food and other nutrients.

Please sign these Petitions:

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?page_id=184

http://www.healthrevolutionpetition....x.html?ID=1748
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'When the blood was offered, forth came they to dwell among humankind'

[mntruthseeker]

Been a member of this myself for over a year. Very worthwhile knowledge and important reading

[Seashore]

Done

[Phtha]

[Starlah]

Thanks Phtha for the extremely informative videos, thankyou Truthseeker and Seashore for signing...as for the rest of the people on this Forum I guess they don't give a BLEEP about their health, GM foods, or persistent organic pollutants in their diet...YUM YUM aspartame...give me another bottle of that while I squat in front of my digital controlled Boob Tube!

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[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Starlah

Thanks Phtha for the extremely informative videos, thankyou Truthseeker and Seashore for signing...as for the rest of the people on this Forum I guess they don't give a BLEEP about their health, GM foods, or persistent organic pollutants in their diet...YUM YUM aspartame...give me another bottle of that while I squat in front of my digital controlled Boob Tube!

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I know how you feel, Starlah.

It gets discouraging sometimes.

[waitinginthewings]

Done

I have signed a few petitions over the years at my local health food store, and still we are signing more petitions. It does not seem to matter how many we sign, they are not listening to the voice of the people.

[Connecting with Sauce]

Codex is bad.. but I suggest you search here as well this topic as Ian Crane wonders if this lady has a hidden agenda... Please decern...

This is the best thing I've seen about this topic:
http://www.anhcampaign.org/

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...06429960925518

His blog:
http://foodcode.blogspot.com/2007/11...onspiracy.html

Ian crane was also interviewed on 1RadioNetwork, just listened to the podcast but I can't seem to find it again worth a listen if you can find it... But here is some good stuff anyway.

http://www.oneradionetwork.com/blogc...and_nutrition/

More info here:
http://mirrors.wordsforgood.org/educ...s15jan09.shtml

[Connecting with Sauce]

More info from ANH site here
http://www.anhcampaign.org/campaigns/codex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWRxT...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPybb...layer_embedded

loads of stuff here:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...meta=&aq=f&oq=

[cosmictexan]

Signed both petitions. I think people on this site are very interested in their health. It seems like most people on this site have their own gardens and take good care of their bodies and their minds.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Connecting with Sauce

.... but I suggest you search here as well this topic as Ian Crane wonders if this lady has a hidden agenda...

Connecting with Sauce,

Please briefly state Ian Crane's rationale as you understand it.

[Swanny]

I watched Ian crane about a year ago but its been removed now

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Swanny

I watched Ian crane about a year ago but its been removed now

If someone has a point to make that this petition is not what we think it is because the lady in the video has an agenda of her own which is not good, please make it.

[Connecting with Sauce]

Originally Posted by seashore

If someone has a point to make that this petition is not what we think it is because the lady in the video has an agenda of her own which is not good, please make it.

I didn't state that. Ask Ian Crane or watch the video attached below...

"..wonders if this lady has a hidden agenda.."

...and decern.

The website says this at the top "Health Freedom Threats: Codex, FDA, Vaccinations, GMOs" but then mentions nothing about the FDA or vaccines and there are no links...

Now compare the information here:
http://www.anhcampaign.org

For me this seems better put together... Also if codex happens it will be in Europe first that is my understanding from the lecture Ian gave, but please people do their own research. And make up their own minds... Don't be led by Ian, this lady or me...

What this CODEX thing needs is a legal case like Jane is preparing for vaccines to file in the same way... to get people not aware forced to read the information legally and WAKE UP.

Swanny still here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...06429960925518 this works...

This is another way to get involved in Europe...
http://www.anhcampaign.org/get-involved

[Wormhole]

Thank you Starlah,
signed, sealed, delivered.
Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

I also signed both. Will have my wife sign also.

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by Connecting with Sauce

Swanny still here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...06429960925518 this works...

Thx but thats a different one

[Connecting with Sauce]

PLEASE WATCH THIS LINK below AT THE TIME ~1hr 20 minutes when IAN CRANE comments on these people creating this petition
i.e.
Major General Albert (Bert) N. Stubblebine III (U.S. Army, Retired)
Rima E. Laibow, M.D.Rima E. Laibow, M.D.
from here:
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?page_id=198

Swanny this is the CODEX lecture I've seen and I've watched some of it again this evening to find where he mentions the above two people and it is very informative and worth it for the history behind CODEX etc...

AGAIN... PLEASE WATCH THIS LINK AT THE TIME at 1hr 20 minutes when IAN CRANE comments on these people on this petition. He is quite damming TBH
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...06429960925518

He states it seems these guys are the 'controlled' opposition to CODEX based on a codex meeting he recently attended with others... PLEASE watch it and make up your own minds...

I've done this for seashore as she said she was too busy to watch the whole link... You're missing out though it is a good lecture...

This really needs sticking as a thread as beating codex is pretty important for our ability to fight what is coming down the pipe... and I really don't want to do this again in 3-4 months time...

Originally Posted by seashore

Connecting with Sauce,

Please briefly state Ian Crane's rationale as you understand it.

I hope this answers the question above....

[Swanny]

I'm watching it again
It's the same talk but he's in a different place, and in the other one he also talks about ZION and 2012 olympic games

[Connecting with Sauce]

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/a...inrestrictions

I've just signed this petition it is now up to 12648 ME

from link I posted earlier http://www.anhcampaign.org/get-involved

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Connecting with Sauce

...Ian Crane wonders if this lady has a hidden agenda...http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...06429960925518

On the video Ian Crane states that Dr. Rima Laibow has a partner, Major-General Albert Stubblebine (I think that's the spelling; the text was hard to read) who is a Psy-ops Specialist; that they're an unknown quantity; and that they were trying to undermine the work of three individuals that he listed, but I can't find the spellings of their names so I won't try to list them.

Let's discuss this.

Who has information?

[Connecting with Sauce]

Originally Posted by seashore

On the video Ian Crane states that Dr. Rima Laibow has a partner, Major-General Albert Stubblebine (I think that's the spelling; the text was hard to read) who is a Psy-ops Specialist; that they're an unknown quantity; and that they were trying to undermine the work of three individuals that he listed, but I can't find the spellings of their names so I won't try to list them.

Let's discuss this.

Who has information?

Major General Albert (Bert) N. Stubblebine III (U.S. Army, Retired)
Rima E. Laibow, M.D.Rima E. Laibow, M.D. (the lady in the you-tube links above)

I copied these names from the website above seashore and posted the link where they are on the petition website... I hope this is enough for people to at least not blindly follow these two without discussion.

Yes if anyone has confirmation of what Ian feared at this talk...

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by seashore

On the video Ian Crane states that Dr. Rima Laibow has a partner, Major-General Albert Stubblebine (I think that's the spelling; the text was hard to read) who is a Psy-ops Specialist; that they're an unknown quantity; and that they were trying to undermine the work of three individuals that he listed, but I can't find the spellings of their names so I won't try to list them.

Let's discuss this.

Who has information?

What follows is an article critical of Major-General Stubblebine and Dr. Laibow that appears on the website of an organization called the Dr. Rath Health Foundation:

A Modern Major General Exposed?

The fictional Major-General who appears in Gilbert and Sullivan's 1879 comic opera "The Pirates of Penzance" famously sings boastfully about his extremely wide general knowledge. Hardly the most modest of people, he comically claims to know about or to understand all manner of disparate subjects, and repeatedly tells the audience that he is "the very model of a modern Major-General."

Not entirely dissimilarly therefore, the health freedom movement has recently been subjected to the increasingly bizarre claims of a real-life Major-General, a man who, rather like his counterpart in The Pirates of Penzance, claims to be an expert in all manner of things.

Major General Albert (Bert) N. Stubblebine III (U.S. Army, Retired) graduated from The United States Military Academy (West Point) in 1952, and served in the US Army for 32 years. Starting his career as an Armor officer, he subsequently rose through the ranks to lead troops at every echelon of Army command, and held several senior posts in US Army Intelligence. His commands as a General Officer included the US Army Intelligence Center and School, the Army's Electronic Research and Development Command (ERADCOM) and the US Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM). Whilst on active duty Stubblebine also redesigned the intelligence architecture of the United States Army, and restructured the Army Intelligence training curriculum. After his retirement from the Army in 1984 he served until 1990 as the Vice President for Intelligence Systems at BDM Corporation, a private defense sector contractor, and then acted as a part-time consultant to two government contractors; ERIM, and Space Applications Corporation (SAC). More recently, and along with his wife, the psychiatrist Rima Laibow, Stubblebine sat on the Board of Canadian Submarine Technologies Inc, and claimed to be the designer of AEGIS, "a major Homeland Security private initiative."

Given this background, and his resulting proximity to the US Government, eyebrows began to be raised in the health freedom community in early 2005 when, along with Rima Laibow, Stubblebine launched the website of the Natural Solutions Foundation and began to promote himself as an expert on Codex Alimentarius.

However, for a man who had previously held several senior posts in US Army Intelligence, and who as such would be acutely aware of the need to ensure accuracy in the gathering of information, it quickly became apparent to experienced health freedom observers that Stubblebine either hadn't done his homework properly, or that he and Laibow were intentionally spreading inaccurate and misleading material on Codex and other related dietary supplement issues via their website and press releases. Moreover, despite repeated concerns being expressed by more experienced health freedom observers, Stubblebine and Laibow continued to disseminate this material, and pointedly ignored requests to remove it from their website.

The inaccuracy of their written output on Codex reached a new high in July 2005, when, following the adoption by the Codex Alimentarius Commission of restrictive new global guidelines for vitamin and mineral supplements, Stubblebine and Laibow announced that a miracle had taken place at the Commission's meeting. While the health freedom community looked on in astonishment, Stubblebine and Laibow went on to claim that during the meeting a World Health Organization (WHO) Under Secretary for Food Safety had spoken "sternly, sharply and scathingly of the fact that little contribution to human health had been made by Codex" and that WHO had stated that "things would be different in the future". Of course, the Dr. Rath Health Foundation later proved, definitively, that these assertions were largely either mistaken or exaggerated; however this unfortunately didn't stem what was by then becoming a growing tide of inaccuracy flowing from Stubblebine and Laibow.

Next, for example, following a meeting of the Codex Committee on Food Labelling that took place in Ottawa, Canada in May 2006, Stubblebine claimed that the meeting's outcome was a "Stunning Victory" for health freedom, despite the fact that such an assertion had absolutely no basis in fact, as proven by the Dr. Rath Health Foundation and confirmed by other experienced observers who were present at the meeting, including even the Natural Solutions Foundation's own legal council.

Perhaps not surprisingly therefore, Stubblebine did not take kindly to being repeatedly exposed in this way, and subsequently confronted Paul Anthony Taylor at the July 2006 meeting of the Codex Alimentarius Commission, in Geneva. Paul's summary of this encounter follows below:

Immediately after the close of the meeting Bert Stubblebine approached me and positioned himself so that I could not easily walk away. His manner was somewhat aggressive, and at one point I had to tell him that there was no need to shout, as his raised voice and threatening manner were beginning to attract the attention of other delegates. He claimed that the subject of his anger was the Foundation's Codex meeting in Ottawa article, as well as the Miracle in Rome? and Be Wary of the Instant Experts articles that had recently been revised to include his and Rima Laibow's names. He asked me whether I wrote these articles, and I answered that the decision to name him in them was taken by the Executive Board of the Dr. Rath Health Foundation. In turn, I asked him whether he disagreed with any of the factual corrections that the Dr. Rath Health Foundation had published regarding the fictional nature of material put out by his organization, and, if so, which ones? "All of them," he answered.

By this point we had been joined by his wife, Rima Laibow, who, seemingly white with anger, proceeded to ask me some of the same questions that Bert had just asked me. I therefore told her that I had just answered these same questions to Bert, and that as such I saw no need to answer them again. Rima then proceeded to ask me "Who are the Executive Board of the Dr. Rath Health Foundation?", and I told her that the relevant names could all be found on the Foundation's website. At this they both about-turned and stormed off, and Rima muttered something whilst they were walking away to the effect that they would find that information very interesting.

The Dr. Rath Health Foundation believes that the health freedom movement now needs to ask several important questions of Stubblebine and the Natural Solutions Foundation:

1. Why are Codex reports issued by the Natural Solutions Foundation increasingly at odds with those of more experienced observers, including even those of its own Legal Counsel?


2. Why does the Natural Solutions Foundation claim that miracles and stunning victories for health freedom have taken place at Codex meetings when in reality no such miracles or stunning victories have taken place?


3. Why does Stubblebine – a man who has held several senior posts in US Army Intelligence and who as such will be acutely aware of the need to ensure accuracy in the gathering of information – continue to permit the National Solutions Foundation's articles and press releases to contain numerous crucial inaccuracies, and why does he refuse to correct them?


4. Was it Stubblebine's intention to try to intimidate Paul Anthony Taylor at the July 2006 meeting of the Codex Alimentarius Commission in Geneva?


5. Given that Stubblebine once admitted in a court of law that his "real expertise is government, primarily intelligence", and, when asked whether he had any other skills, answered "Not particularly", what does he expect the health freedom movement to conclude regarding his spreading of inaccurate and misleading material on Codex and other related dietary supplement issues?

Is Albert Stubblebine "the very model of a modern Major-General"? We'll leave you to make up your own minds on that one, and can only but wonder what Gilbert and Sullivan might have made of him. One thing is for sure however, in that the fictional Major-General in "The Pirates of Penzance", with his "pretty taste for paradox", would probably find a man with a background in the Intelligence Community, but who can't seem to get his facts right, most interesting indeed.

[Starlah]

Dr. Matthias Rath appears to be the "Hero of the Hour" especially to the people of South Africa on the issue of AIDS and Big Pharma.........

http://www.dr-rath-foundation.org.za/

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Kick at the darkness til it bleeds daylight......................Bruce Cockburn

[mntruthseeker]

[QUOTE=Connecting with Sauce;155159]Codex is bad.. but I suggest you search here as well this topic as Ian Crane wonders if this lady has a hidden agenda... Please decern...



I know that what this lady says is true, I dont care if she has a hidden agenda, because most people do have to earn money to keep their information out there.......

All one has to do is look at the high rate of deseases and deaths are popping up and they can see for themself this is needed.

I feel its a never ending story with the faxes and calls......but they do not like it there at the other end so its still worth what ever time it takes.

I like showing them that WE KNOW their game........they dont seem to care but they are not getting my fear from this.....just my non compliance