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Old 01-03-2010, 11:36 AM   #1
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Coconut Oil and Oxidative Stress

One of the reasons the long chain fatty acids in vegetable oils are so damaging to the thyroid is that they oxidize quickly and become rancid. Food manufacturers know about this propensity towards rancidity and, therefore, highly refine their vegetable oils. Considerable research has shown that trans fatty acids, present when vegetable oils are highly refined (hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated), are especially damaging to cell tissue and can have a negative affect on the thyroid as well as health in general. Because the longer chain fatty acids are deposited in cells more often as rancid and oxidizing fat, impairment of the conversion of thyroid hormone T4 to T3 occurs, which is symptomatic of hypothyroidism. To create the enzymes needed to convert fats to energy, T4 must be converted to T3.

http://www.coconutdiet.com/thyroid_health.htm
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Old 01-03-2010, 12:07 PM   #2
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So it seems that the saturated oils are the healty fats whe need

You have to remember that in last days of Sumeria just be for the nuclear holocaust there where already making lots of GMO foods. All vegatable oils that go bad with out any vitamines are old GMO's.

Remember also the interview with Dr Pete Peterson he talks obout a very powerfull oil that you need only a drop of a day to keep you healty

Everthing that goes bad quickly wil damage your health. all real knowledge about food is taken away from us.

http://www.heall.com/body/healthupda...oconutoil.html

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Old 01-03-2010, 12:13 PM   #3
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“When the attack on coconut oil began,” says Fife, “those medical and research professionals who were familiar with it wondered why. They knew coconut oil did not contribute to heart disease and that it provided many health advantages. Some even stepped forward to set the record straight. But by this time public sentiment had firmly sided with the ASA, and people refused to listen.”
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One of my familiy members start talking about Coconut oil is bad for you. WTF!!!!!
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Old 01-03-2010, 12:28 PM   #5
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http://www.premierorganics.org/index...id=61&Itemid=2

Several years ago I met an old couple, who were only a few years apart in age, but the wife looked many years younger than her doddering old husband. She was from the Philippines, and she remarked that she always had to cook two meals at the same time, because her husband couldn't adapt to her traditional food. Three times every day, she still prepared her food in coconut oil. Her apparent youth increased my interest in the effects of coconut oil.

In the l960s, Hartroft and Porta gave an elegant argument for decreasing the ratio of unsaturated oil to saturated oil in the diet (and thus in the tissues). They showed that the "age pigment" is produced in proportion to the ratio of oxidants to antioxidants, multiplied by the ratio of unsaturated oils to saturated oils.

More recently, a variety of studies have demonstrated that ultraviolet light induces peroxidation in unsaturated fats, but not saturated fats, and that this occurs in the skin as well as in the lab.

Rabbit experiments, and studies of humans, showed that the amount of unsaturated oil in the diet strongly affects the rate at which aged, wrinkled skin develops.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:40 AM   #6
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I really want to thank you for posting this link!

I have a low thyroid...and I am definitely going to check this info out!

Thanks SOOOO much!!!

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Old 01-04-2010, 01:05 AM   #7
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Organic/Virgin coconut oil is fantastic - and used by many of the ancient peoples Asia for cooking or having cold in foods (like with peanut butter and fruit spread sandwiches yummy) as well as a cosmetic i.e. body and hair oil. It's kind of solid (mushy) at room temperature and melts easily at body temperature.
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Old 01-04-2010, 04:19 AM   #8
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So, should I take coconut oil instead of thyroid medication or should I go on a gluten-free diet?

What is best? I probably should consult an actual doctor but I'm open to other opinions.
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Old 01-04-2010, 05:01 AM   #9
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Both and consult a naturopath. I have autoimmune hypothyroid, the only way I am able to control it is to eat a grain free diet and use coconut oil, coconut cream, key nutrients suited for my thyroid (medicincal mushrooms, etc)........


At this time I also take a form of natural thyroid......I went off of it last year and that was a major mistake......I ended up with a TSH level of 140 something and almost ended up in a coma......

Have been gluten free for many many years.......and also consumed raw organic coconut oil for many years and an all organic diet etc; since I was born-despite this I still have thyroid issues......

This is an excellent book on the subject - he is one of the best in terms of thyroid- if not the best.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...X0DER&v=glance
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Both and consult a naturopath. I have autoimmune hypothyroid, the only way I am able to control it is to eat a grain free diet and use coconut oil, coconut cream, key nutrients suited for my thyroid (medicincal mushrooms, etc)........


At this time I also take a form of natural thyroid......I went off of it last year and that was a major mistake......I ended up with a TSH level of 140 something and almost ended up in a coma......

Have been gluten free for many many years.......and also consumed raw organic coconut oil for many years and an all organic diet etc; since I was born-despite this I still have thyroid issues......

This is an excellent book on the subject - he is one of the best in terms of thyroid- if not the best.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...X0DER&v=glance
According to Dr. Peter D'Adamo the "O" blood group have more autoimmune and thyroid issues. I had autoimmune issues with thyroid before it was removed.

Stopping grains is great. I can get away with spelt flour (sold at Bulk Barn) and some rice. The long fast (link here) helped my body to re-set itself hormonally.

Besides what you are doing now, what else is your body telling you to do or not do?
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Old 01-04-2010, 11:33 PM   #11
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There is a lot of knowledge out there, the best think what you can do that is very simple. Look what your eating

all E number our poision to the body.
avoid shampoo and any other stuff for cleaning you and your clothing. you would not eat it why would you put it on you skin?

same with toothbrush use herbs and oils only no so called natural.

Get a detox from heavy metals something you know that removes it daily. My favored is kombucha tea, because it easy and cheap.

Also check for herb that can help

If you address all of it your health is just going transform you, i'm almost back to my normal weight. lenght is 1.86 m 64/65kg

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I really want to thank you for posting this link!

I have a low thyroid...and I am definitely going to check this info out!

Thanks SOOOO much!!!

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Old 01-04-2010, 11:56 PM   #12
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Mu...What do you use to wash your hair and clothes?
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Its very cheap its called water, only brush my teeth with oil and herbs

You can wash your clothes with wash nut , just do a search for it.
also you can wash your clothes in baking soda.

I do still have herbs for washing my hair if I want too

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Old 01-05-2010, 02:50 AM   #14
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Health Tip #1 : use coconut oil.

Most people that need to lose weight have a suppressed metabolism. Eating a tablespoon of coconut oil every day will normalize the metabolism. Eating 2 tablespoons per day is good too, but start with one.

The best coconut oil in the world all comes from one manufacturer in Indonesia (edited: whoops, not Malaysia). The reason it is better than the rest is the manner in which it is processed. It goes through a cold process three stage centrifuge also called 'wet-milled'. This is a custom made scientific grade machine & is not generally public knowledge. This process results in the only known raw coconut oil.

The oil resulting from the above process contains naturally occurring vitamin E, which many people believe coconut oil cannot contain. It is marketed under various names. PM me for further reference, do not want to break any endorsement rules here & "no", I have no financial stake in this.

Traditional processes, while still great, involve pressing/boiling. There are loads of coconut oils claiming to be raw when they are not. Also "virgin" has no meaning beyond marketing in reference to coconut oil, organic (or not) still applies though.

With that said, even 'bad' coconut oil is better than other oils. It even has antibacterial and anti-viral properties. Which is part of why it instantly relieves itchy skin. Using it to moisturize the scalp is amazing for those that have psoriasis/dandruff or those that just want great looking hair. Pro tip: apply to scalp, not all of the hair, it will work outwards. I mix mine with a few drops of Spikenard oil.

Coconut is the only healthy oil that does not hydrogenate at high cooking temperature (300+ degrees Fahrenheit). Because of this it is the only oil suitable for traditional stir fry.

It is very wise to replace all cooking oils with Coconut oil.

...detoxing is a thoroughly different issue...

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Old 01-05-2010, 12:47 PM   #15
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Health Tip #1 : use coconut oil.

Most people that need to lose weight have a suppressed metabolism.

...detoxing is a thoroughly different issue...
The question you are forgetting to ask is why do these people have a suppressed metabolism? For any lasting effect you have to find the root cause. My girlfriend had a thyroid problem and I did a ton of research about it. Soy is a major culprit that leads to thyroid problems and weight issues. The neurotoxin Aspartame (nutrisweet), and corn syrup are the other 2 food ingredients that lead to weight gain.

2 years ago I lost 40 pounds in less than 6 months by eliminating just those 3 ingredients from my diet- that put me on the path. Now I eat only organic or home grown food. I have eliminated all processed foods completely now. I know what's in every piece of food that goes past my lips.

I have to totally disagree with you about detoxification being a separate issue. Detoxing is probably the number one thing that people should be doing to restore health.

Another major factor in suppressed metabolism and thyroid dysfunction which is often overlooked are mineral imbalances. Not many people talk about the importance of minerals. Minerals are vitally important for proper bio-chemistry. And it's not just a matter of popping mineral supplements. Minerals need to be in proper ratios to each other.

One of the main things that heavy metals do is mess with the way the body utilizes minerals. Heavy metals throw everything out of whack and the person becomes a bio-chemical train wreck- all kinds of problems result. Everything from simple weight gain to cancer. So here again it comes back to detoxification.

I have direct experience with heavy metal toxicity due to chronic mercury poisoning from my fillings. It has taken me years to figure out where my health problems where coming from. I continually detox and I keep making small changes to my diet and lifestyle and my health keeps improving.

Trust the wisdom of the body. It will always lean towards health if properly supported. It will always seek balance (homeostasis). I know a bit about this kind of thing so anyone can PM me if they would like some advice.

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Old 01-05-2010, 01:53 PM   #16
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Exactly, I had health issue from chronic mercury poisoning, but do to my ever increasing knowledge I was adding herbs that containt iodine and I was adding coconut, himalayian crystal salt, chorela over the years. But it is still like swimming against the flow of things. still not knowing that my fillings was the main problem

My weight got only as high as around 80kg(1.86m) and start fighting it again it to lose wheight. But if you have your poisioness fillings in then your body is overloaded with toxins. a toxic body is the main problem why you having health issues.

The main thing is what goes in to your body is the problem
eliminate eating and washing in toxins is the number one.

The second is getting nutritions in to your body who are able to remove all of the toxins in your body.

Then your health start really turning around.
Your wil lose weight so easily you can't believe it is real. The problem is why people have a hard time losing weight is because there trying to lose wheight on a false science that you have to eat less fat.

I alwasy said you have to eat less bull Zhit .


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The question you are forgetting to ask is why do these people have a suppressed metabolism? For any lasting effect you have to find the root cause. My girlfriend had a thyroid problem and I did a ton of research about it. Soy is a major culprit that leads to thyroid problems and weight issues. The neurotoxin Aspartame (nutrisweet), and corn syrup are the other 2 food ingredients that lead to weight gain.

2 years ago I lost 40 pounds by eliminating just those 3 ingredients from my diet- that put me on the path. Now I eat everything organic or home grown. I have eliminated all processed foods completely now. I know what's in every piece of food that goes past my lips.

I have to totally disagree with you about detoxification being a separate issue. Detoxing is probably the number one thing that people should be doing to restore health.

Another major factor in suppressed metabolism and thyroid dysfunction which is often overlooked are mineral imbalances. Not many people talk about the importance minerals. Minerals are vitally important for proper bio-chemistry. And it's not just a matter of popping mineral supplements. Minerals need to be in proper ratios to each other.

One of the main things that heavy metals do is mess with the way the body utilizes minerals. Heavy metals throw everything out of whack and the person becomes a bio-chemical train wreck- all kinds of problems result. Everything from simple weight gain to cancer. So here again it comes back to detoxification.

I have direct experience with heavy metal toxicity due to chronic mercury poisoning from my fillings. It has taken me years to figure out where my health problems where coming from. I continually detox and I keep making small changes to my diet and lifestyle and my health keeps improving.

Trust the wisdom of the body. It will always lean towards health if properly supported. It will always seek balance (homeostasis). I know a bit about this kind of thing so anyone can PM me if they would like some advice.

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Old 01-05-2010, 05:25 AM   #17
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According to Dr. Peter D'Adamo the "O" blood group have more autoimmune and thyroid issues. I had autoimmune issues with thyroid before it was removed.

Stopping grains is great. I can get away with spelt flour (sold at Bulk Barn) and some rice. The long fast (link here) helped my body to re-set itself hormonally.

Besides what you are doing now, what else is your body telling you to do or not do?
I'm O and need some animal protein. I have done a lot of cleansing, fasting, green juice plus zeolite fasting, (various Zeolites, until I settled on my favorite one which is Quantum)....

I do FIR (far infra red) daily.....use Magnascent iodine, been eating sea vegetables almost daily since I was 12 years old.......avoid raw cruciferous vegetables eat raw butter which is good for thyroid,.......I... do yoga, rebound, etc; too munerous to list here....
got my mouth cleaned up with a biological DDS

My thyroid plummeted when I went raw vegan for 3 years....prior to that I ate a high raw diet with select animal food and was fine......so I went back to that.....plus select herbs (ashwaganda, mushrooms, Quantum's B etc)

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Hal Huggin's suggests baking soda to brush with.....I use that.......

I've never used chemical products on my body, grew up eating organic and using organic skin/hair care.......but beware because even a lot of the organic lines are filled with toxins......

We buy our coconut oil from following places........

http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/ their virgin oil de coc creme is what I used for years......I still like the flavor the best.......


http://vivapura.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=65 theirs I started using about 18 months ago.....flavor takes some getting used to.....they have GREAT superfoods! We buy a lot from them.......

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I'm O and need some animal protein. I have done a lot of cleansing, fasting, green juice plus zeolite fasting, (various Zeolites, until I settled on my favorite one which is Quantum)....

I do FIR (far infra red) daily.....use Magnascent iodine, been eating sea vegetables almost daily since I was 12 years old.......avoid raw cruciferous vegetables eat raw butter which is good for thyroid,.......I... do yoga, rebound, etc; too munerous to list here....
got my mouth cleaned up with a biological DDS

My thyroid plummeted when I went raw vegan for 3 years....prior to that I ate a high raw diet with select animal food and was fine......so I went back to that.....plus select herbs (ashwaganda, mushrooms, Quantum's B etc)
Hello Eleni,

I thought I was a purist...I hope you don't mind that I copied everything you wrote and put it in my own personal Word file. I intend to mimic some of your routines in order to improve on what I am already doing.

Don't you find that raw meat, like steak tartare and certain sashimi go down better than thoroughly cooked meats? Do you also make your own meat broths?

I have seaweed I purchased from a Korean market and keep forgetting to put it in my broths. It takes some getting used to.

Have you tried the spelt bread.

I have not seen raw butter at the organic market. Organic butter here in Toronto is about $10 a pound, double the price.

What is your take on olive oil?

My body also thinks lard is okay too. How about yours?

Have you tried Adzuki beans?
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Hello Eleni,

I thought I was a purist...I hope you don't mind that I copied everything you wrote and put it in my own personal Word file. I intend to mimic some of your routines in order to improve on what I am already doing.

Don't you find that raw meat, like steak tartare and certain sashimi go down better than thoroughly cooked meats? Do you also make your own meat broths?

I have seaweed I purchased from a Korean market and keep forgetting to put it in my broths. It takes some getting used to.

Have you tried the spelt bread.

I have not seen raw butter at the organic market. Organic butter here in Toronto is about $10 a pound, double the price.

What is your take on olive oil?

My body also thinks lard is okay too. How about yours?

Have you tried Adzuki beans?
Hi,

I don't eat meat anymore......but when I ate it , I ate it raw- went raw primal for 4 years after doing NT , I cannot digest cooked meat.....same with fish although lightly cooked light/white fish is fine for me.....

I make my own butter from raw grass fed cream or I buy it from same farm...same goes with kefir which I make from raw goat milk.....

I have celiac and don't do anything with gluten, as much as I would love some home- made sourdough spelt bread...I have to pass.......

I have never eaten lard nor any pork product (I grew up almost vegan- had raw milk a few times per year and tasted raw elk meat when I was 23 years old for first time......)

Sally Fallon followers big on lard....I have friends into that and I did NT minus pork for one pregnancy.......gained a lot of weight but had a baby in under and hour total labor and delivery and it was completely painless.....
NT too heavy on grains and animal products for me........like other aspected of it though....

I like the nutritional philosophies of Nora Gedguada's (Primal Body/Primal Mind) and Donna Gates (Body Ecology) both philosophies are very low in sugars and high in vegetables with some high quality animal proteins and fats from wild and grass fed sources.....

Aduki beans- I used to be a macrobiotic teacher many years ago and ate a lot of aduki beans......I personally don't eat beans or grains........sometimes I will sprout or soak a psuedo grain like amaranth,buckwheat or qunioa and make a raw granola etc; like I did today .......

I use olive oil but gain weight from using it frequently....Sally is correct on that.....I use hemp oil too.....

My body prefers saturated fat such as butter and coconut oil over monosaturates but of course I use those too......I like avocado oil as well and then there's sercha inchi oil...and mac nut oil.......the list goes on.....

I used to make broths but have not in years.....I went back to veganism after that and then a year ago started eating goat dairy and then egg and some fish so no longer vegan......meat doesn't appeal to me......some people thrive on grass fed meats.....everyone has to find out what works for them......

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Eleni,

I have recently heard others say this.

Would you mind sharing your reason for this?

For about a year now, I have used beans, nuts, seeds,
and non-meat animal protein to replace much of the
meat in my diet-with very good results.

I can't seem to find much negative info about legumes
via Google.

Much thanks...

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I've eaten beans all my life

I tried to find some coconut oil in my town. Only place that had it was holland and barrett and they wanted £12 for a pot

http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pag...690&prodid=733
£3 cheaper online

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The sweet aroma and rich taste of coconuts can be yours with Holland & Barrett Coconut Oil. This versatile oil is made from coconuts and can be used on salads, for cooking or can be used as a body moisturiser.
Anyone know of a good place to buy it in England???
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Yep thats the normal price for good quality coconut oil. I purchased a large one that was 1700ml for 40 euros. Don't think you wil get it cheap and good quality !!!!

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