Indigo

[bowspearer]

Originally Posted by OceanWinds

The more I see the posts of self proclaimed indigos... the more I see people who are suffering, and are looking for something to explain it.

And yet therein lies the reason why all the negative people in this thread need to give things a rest.

The fact is that if what's been said is true, Indigos are on the verge of becoming full blown superhumans (although there are signs of the start of that as we speak). Similar to the Xmen concept of mutants, Indigos are generally shunned by society for being non-conformists and "different". That difference and the pain it has caused have resulted in many of us having very real battles with depression, because of how our worthless upbringings have left us feeling.

Yet threads like this counteract that by saying that difference doesn't make people worthless, but rather, incredibly special and a source of hope for the world.

It's a place where we can talk with similar people, learn about this and feel accepted for once in our lives, and celebrated for who and what we are, rather than ostracised by it.

Maybe if the likes of Swanny actually took a step back from this to gain some perspective, rather than continuing to propagate their little pissing contest out of some brainless and self-centred form of fun, they'd come to realise that!

Thankyou for your tactful and dignified responce... I am honored by your willingness to participate with myself in and others who want to discuss this in a way that is generative... even if all parties do not necessarily agree on every point.

However after reading the threads I have a better understanding of the term indigo... I see it is harmless in intent... and actually sheds a light on things not otherwise discussed. So in this way it is generative.

The only problem being the EGO... which can take what it wants from the definitions of indigo and use them as a means to separate humanity, and degenerate it collectively... as opposed to unifying it. This has been done countless times using religion,scripture and its dogma. And this is the point that many have been trying to express... its not that we are trying to destroy the indigo, that was never the intention.

So I feel that Indigo can be an important tool in people discovering things about themselves.. And that the recognition of these things will help them to find ways to express their spirit. As well as a means to help people to connect, and discuss these issues. But remember that this has the potential to be a knife which cuts both ways...

[Swanny]

I now understand why indigo people feel no one likes them

[TranceAm]

Originally Posted by Swanny

I now understand why indigo people feel no one likes them

Do you?

"One psychotherapist and Indigo proponent says, for these children, Ritalin will limit their amazing potential. After all, "these children are the answers to the prayers we all have for peace."
http://www.parentdish.com/2006/01/12...ew-york-times/

“Ritalin is the most often prescribed medication for ADHD. It is a stimulant that is closely related to amphetamine. Over 70 percent of all children diagnosed with ADHD are prescribed Ritalin. Another 20 percent are prescribed its generic equivalent, Methylphenidate (MPH), and another stimulant similar to Ritalin, Dexedrine."

"There are no firm figures on how many children are taking the drug. In the 1980s it was estimated that between 200,000 and 500,000 children were receiving stimulants. In 1987 750,000 children were believed to be on the medication. Both of these figures were the result of extrapolation from regional studies. A study done by the University of California, Irvine, Child Development Center estimated that in 1993 3 million children were diagnosed with ADHD. Ninety percent of these children were on medication; 1.3 million receiving Ritalin. Researchers believe that the number of children on Ritalin has grown to 3.5 million with another 1.4 million taking other medications, most likely Dexedrine."


"Production and use of Ritalin is expected to double by the year 2000, which would bring the number of children taking the medication to 7 million. Some estimate that ADHD affects 10 percent of all children. If this is so, it would mean that within a few years fully 10 million children could be on the drug."

"No other nation comes close to the US in the production and use of Ritalin. Ninety percent of all Ritalin is produced and used in the United States. Only Australia is close to the US in per capita use. Canada has seen a comparable rise, although it is still at about one-fourth of per capita use as compared to the United States. Britain has had a policy of intervening with social support for children with ADHD and using Ritalin only as a last resort, although these measures are being attacked because of budget cuts. Sweden prohibits use of the drug."
http://www.crystalchild.net/CrystalC...talin_Use.html

I guess that is what political dissedents felt in the former USSR,
Declared "in need for treatment" and put on medication. How many generations now are liked for who and what they are, instead of what society (people in power) drug them to be?

And finally:

All branches of the armed forces reject potential enlistees who use Ritalin or similar behavior-modifying medications.

A long-standing Department of Defense directive also instructs the military to reject those with a "chronic history" of an academic skills defect -- including ADD -- after age 12. And people who took Ritalin as teenagers to treat ADD, an inhibitor of academic skills, are rejected from military service, even if they no longer take the medication.

(I Consider that a "pro" ;-) ) http://www.nfgcc.org/64.htm

[Carol]

ADD is a medical condition where the normal blood flow to the frontal lobe is resticted. Subsequently these children engage in behaviors which are disruptive in an unconscious attempt to increase blood flow to the prefrontal cortex.

There is no blame or judgment here.. just the facts. Adults who have ADD tend to have children who have ADD. However, adults who use drugs and get pregnant.. continue to use drugs during the pregnancy, will often have babies who have neurological brian damage as a result and also be labled ADHD.

The different medications available attempt to enable the child to concentrate and stay focused. However, there is another way to treat these various brain disorders and that is through neurobiofeedback which stimulates various areas of the brain and subsequently increase the blood flow to the prefrontal cortex.

In recent research it was also shown that ADHD children's brains tended to develop differently and that some areas of the brain matured several years later as compared to normal children. This means that some of these children will outgrow their condition in their later teens.

As we have an adopted daughter whose birth mom did drugs I know about this subject backwards and forwards. We used neurobiofeedback with her beginning at age two. She had severe temper tantrums and was very destructive. We would have to wrap her in a sheet so that she wouldn't hurt herself or others until her fit was over. Later in school when she was 10 was the first time we decided to use medication to help her control her temper in school. We have found that massive doses of royal jelly and vitamin B complex works really well for her. Due to the side effects of the medication we stopped using them and now just use wholistic treatment.

There is a medical reason parents resort to medication and that should never be discounted. Each situation must be exmined from an individual perspective case-by-case. To make a general discounting statement about medication just demonstrates the lack of information that one really needs to be aware of when making a judgment regarding medicating kids.

I would recommend for everyone one Dr. Danial Amen's book. "Chang Your Brain, Chain Your Life" if you are truly interested in understanding how a deysfunctional brain really affects behavior.

[bowspearer]

Originally Posted by Carol

There is a medical reason parents resort to medication and that should never be discounted.

Obviously coming from someone completely clueless on the affects. Sorry but no parent could ever really love their child and put them on that curse if they truly knew what it does to you and the long term side effects it can cause (and I'm speaking purely in terms of medical side effects here).

[MMe M]

Originally Posted by Carol

ADD is a medical condition where the normal blood flow to the frontal lobe is resticted. Subsequently these children engage in behaviors which are disruptive in an unconscious attempt to increase blood flow to the prefrontal cortex.

There is no blame or judgment here.. just the facts. Adults who have ADD tend to have children who have ADD. However, adults who use drugs and get pregnant.. continue to use drugs during the pregnancy, will often have babies who have neurological brian damage as a result and also be labled ADHD.

The different medications available attempt to enable the child to concentrate and stay focused. However, there is another way to treat these various brain disorders and that is through neurobiofeedback which stimulates various areas of the brain and subsequently increase the blood flow to the prefrontal cortex.

In recent research it was also shown that ADHD children's brains tended to develop differently and that some areas of the brain matured several years later as compared to normal children. This means that some of these children will outgrow their condition in their later teens.

As we have an adopted daughter whose birth mom did drugs I know about this subject backwards and forwards. We used neurobiofeedback with her beginning at age two. She had severe temper tantrums and was very destructive. We would have to wrap her in a sheet so that she wouldn't hurt herself or others until her fit was over. Later in school when she was 10 was the first time we decided to use medication to help her control her temper in school. We have found that massive doses of royal jelly and vitamin B complex works really well for her. Due to the side effects of the medication we stopped using them and now just use wholistic treatment.

There is a medical reason parents resort to medication and that should never be discounted. Each situation must be exmined from an individual perspective case-by-case. To make a general discounting statement about medication just demonstrates the lack of information that one really needs to be aware of when making a judgment regarding medicating kids.

I would recommend for everyone one Dr. Danial Amen's book. "Chang Your Brain, Chain Your Life" if you are truly interested in understanding how a deysfunctional brain really affects behavior.

Carol,

All neurologists who have studied add so far disagree in a one single neurologigical finding for the treatment, cause and symptoms of aforementioned so called disease. It is not a disease to not fit in with 98% of the population. Personally, Id call it a blessing and do thank my lucky stars every day I dont fit in.

Most would ponder the owners of the big pharma, the agenda of the elitist mentality and those that own the companies that write the texts of the medical books and oversee the content of the cirriculum at medical schools. The same names come up time and again if you dig deep enough. The same people are on the tri-lateral commision, the cfr, and so on and so forth.

[AMA-GI]

Pride kills humility.......

Yes i am an indigo, it matters not though to me, nor should it to you.

I think all indigo's at some point suffer from to much pride, this is like a disease and must be controlled.

Without name dropping look at some of the channelers that most speak of on here....... This is a lesson all should learn, no matter if indigo or not. We all can suffer from too much pride in oneself.

There are beings whose eyes are only a little covered with dust, they may come to understand the truth.

[kauhane]

Swanny is displaying Indigo Traits
2infinity set this as a non-debate
so please if your not into it (Indigo Revolution)
take your riddelin & chill out
so some of us could learn more

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by TranceAm

Do you?

Well if 2infinityandbeyond attitude is anything to go by then it's hardly surprising.
Calling people evil and warning them off from posting in a debate is not the best way to make friends.

Looking at the 23 points to a indigo then I am one but my aura is bright yellow so maybe I am a golden child, what ever I am or aren't one thing is for sure I do not consider myself to be superior to others.

I was a hyperactive child but in those days parents didnt give their children Ritalin lucky for me

[dolphin]

Originally Posted by Swanny

Well if 2infinityandbeyond attitude is anything to go by then it's hardly surprising.
Calling people evil and warning them off from posting in a debate is not the best way to make friends.

Looking at the 23 points to a indigo then I am one but my aura is bright yellow so maybe I am a golden child, what ever I am or aren't one thing is for sure I do not consider myself to be superior to others.

I was a hyperactive child but in those days parents didnt give their children Ritalin lucky for me

WHO CARES swanny! you have exhibited the most hateful behavior and insecurity of yourself. you should learn to love yourself, then you wouldn't exhibit such hateful behavior as you have here!
i guess you just need the attention...go and get babysat somewhere else!

[Swanny]

Good luck dolphin I dont need a label but it seems you do.

[TranceAm]

Originally Posted by Swanny

Well if 2infinityandbeyond attitude is anything to go by then it's hardly surprising.
Calling people evil and warning them off from posting in a debate is not the best way to make friends.

Do remember.. for a fight, you need at least 2 that want to participate..
Not taking sides here, but intent to side with both of you, when you shake virtual hands and agree to disagree...

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by TranceAm

Do remember.. for a fight, you need at least 2 that want to participate..
Not taking sides here, but intent to side with both of you, when you shake virtual hands and agree to disagree...

Yea I'm happy to go along with that

[dolphin]

2infinity or anyone...i tried to find more info on indigo at the LAW OF ONE site. (RA). i did a search w the word "indigo children", but nothing specifically came up.

does anyone have a specific page from there to post? or direct me to the right page?

thanks!

[Circlewerk]

Originally Posted by OceanWinds

Thankyou for your tactful and dignified responce... I am honored by your willingness to participate with myself in and others who want to discuss this in a way that is generative... even if all parties do not necessarily agree on every point.

However after reading the threads I have a better understanding of the term indigo... I see it is harmless in intent... and actually sheds a light on things not otherwise discussed. So in this way it is generative.

The only problem being the EGO... which can take what it wants from the definitions of indigo and use them as a means to separate humanity, and degenerate it collectively... as opposed to unifying it. This has been done countless times using religion,scripture and its dogma. And this is the point that many have been trying to express... its not that we are trying to destroy the indigo, that was never the intention.

So I feel that Indigo can be an important tool in people discovering things about themselves.. And that the recognition of these things will help them to find ways to express their spirit. As well as a means to help people to connect, and discuss these issues. But remember that this has the potential to be a knife which cuts both ways...

Indeed it is the ego that has a need to label and the ego, is an addict.
Broken down to pure vibration, we are all twins and labels do not exist.
Minding what is said, defending labels, is the ego's way of exercising itself.
Detaching emotionally from all of this, and instead, being this uniting & peaceful vibration, will liberate.
And we are all capable of this.
Because we are all kin in energy.
Our ego's are our lower vibrational thought patterns, that allow us to think labels are necessary & productive, or anything other than part of the illusion.
Once something is thought to be known, it thwarts it's own memory of, and very alive connection to, oneness.
And the ego is happy for having gotten it's fix.


One Profound, United Love~
CW

[Peer]

Ocean Winds, you are so right.
As a 60 year Indigo I wouldn't want to be on that team.

[Swanny]

I was sat in the garden and thought it was about time someone replied to this thread so I came in to have a look and here you are
Great stuff

Anyway you need a balance yin and yang
As for being possitive, you definitely are no better than me and I'm positive about that

[2infinityandbeyond]

Originally Posted by Swanny

I was sat in the garden and thought it was about time someone replied to this thread so I came in to have a look and here you are
Great stuff

Anyway you need a balance yin and yang
As for being possitive, you definitely are no better than me and I'm positive about that

I never said i was. It was you who said that.

[Swanny]

No I think we are the same/equal whether or not one or both of us are indigo

[M&M]

So many people here are so misinformed. Fine, it's normal to start questioning a new piece of information such as the indigo subject if you have no experience with it. What isn't exactly smart is to automatically brush it off because you see it as non-factual since it wasn't broadcasted on the news or accepted by authoritarian figures.

I see it more as a jigsaw puzzle. And labeling is everywhere done by anyone so rejecting it is going against...life. From the day you are born you are labeled with something as simple as a name, what family you're from or even nationality.
Being indigo isn't something to be used as an excuse. You just are. Which can be applied to again, to everything.

It isn't a passing stage, like being abused as a child. You cannot say 'ok, that's it. i can't take this anymore so i'm going to do something about it. from today, i'm not going to be indigo anymore'. The reason why some people are misled into thinking that those indigos want to be seen as 'special' and reject the idea of their existence or shouldn't be given more attention, that they should deal with life like everyone else has to is because those in authority see them as a threat. People who come along and start questioning a completely corrupt system. We need answers, so what better solution than to suppress those asking them? Like it or not, you're stepping into the new world.

All you Indigos out there, you are part of the future. One that is nothing like the one today. So don't worry, these type of people won't be trying to tell you who you are or how you should be. They've done such a good job of 'knowing' that..well...look at the world today

[Swanny]

A self inflated ego is a terrible thing, probably safe to assume that many if not all the dictators throughout history had one.
Very sad to see people trying to prove that they are superior to others by claiming to be a higher value spirit.
I'm my eyes we are all equal.
And if some of you here are an advert for being a indigo then I hope I'm not one

[hobbit]

Swanny,
Nobody is superior, just increased field.
All of your memories and memory storage is within that field, not in your head.
The increased field diameter allows for more information storage and contact.
The sun has a huge field, the moon has a much smaller field.
the sun is very bright, the moon is much dimmer.
When the field diminishs below a certain level, I consider it vacates the body, or death.
The ideal senario is to uplift this field as far as possible, all can do this, if they so desire.
Most people have no comprehension of this fields existance, and therefore remain held down at a certain level.
This thread is simply about those that naturally or otherwise have attained a field enlargement, it is basically an electrical field, and thus alters in colour , similer to a rainbow.
The present largest fields I detect are INDIGO in colour.

If YOU are ignorant of this feature, HOW can YOU comment, except from an ignorant point of view?

One of the features of INDIGO people is an annoyance of those who cannot strive to increase their own potential, it is difficult not to tell them to sod off.
I am constantly striving to overcome this tendancy.
Hobbit

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by hobbit

One of the features of INDIGO people is an annoyance of those who cannot strive to increase their own potential, it is difficult not to tell them to sod off.
I am constantly striving to overcome this tendancy.
Hobbit

I rest my case

[ucan]

2infinityandbeyond I admire your courage and integrity - personally I'm a violet with a golden crown and green cloak child - but I won't get into the specifics of how I know that.

What a difficult thread to read - I hope everyone has learnt something useful - It's not always productive to post every idea that comes into your head - not all thinking is done by the head and sometimes it's wise to step back.

I read the Indigo child definition a number of years ago and it instantly resonated with me. As I continue my own journey I find these descriptive analogies very useful in understanding this wonderful realm we inhabit.