Unknown virus kills in the west of Ukraine

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Fina,

Great find!

I haven't read the article yet, but I wanted to post this quote at the head of the article...

Another quote from the article:

"WHO 'strongly recommends early treatment with the antiviral drugs, oseltamivir or zanamivir, for patients who meet treatment criteria, even in the absence of a positive laboratory test confirming H1N1 infection.' That means Tamiflu, the highly dangerous drug whose major shareholder includes former Pentagon head Don Rumsfeld. And it means GlaxoSmithKline, maker of the reportedly equally dangerous rival Relenza drug. The drugs produce precisely the symptoms of severe lung complications found in flu and in some cases have reportedly caused death."

[Fina]

Thanks Seashore

I find I am checking out & 'believing' fewer & fewer sites as time goes by.
Some do seem to be primarily fear-mongering & making people angry, shan't mention any names...

The only 2 I really trust now are;

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/

Just listening to Ken's interview with Don Nicoloff http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/kena...w13nov09.shtml


Interesting topics on various forums, for example; "What are you scared of?" Hmm, what's that all about - who wants to know??

Every click is monitored... they know how to 'push buttons'...

[burgundia]

They are saying that the Flu virus A/H1N1 has mutated ( in Ukraine). the lungs of two of the victims were completely black, autopsy revealed. however all the deaths in Ukraine are not caused by A/H1N1...

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by burgundia

They are saying that the Flu virus A/H1N1 has mutated ( in Ukraine). the lungs of two of the victims were completely black, autopsy revealed. however all the deaths in Ukraine are not caused by A/H1N1...

I've been thinking about the fact that it seems clear that Ukraine was sprayed right before reports of the deaths as you describe. I have received in my email a Special Emergency Report by Dr. Len Horowitz. He states in the report that "hemorrhagic pneumonia" is now spreading in Ukraine as a "co-infection" among vaccinated and non-vaccinated carriers of H1N1.

I think that both Engdahl's article and what Dr. Horowitz is saying are true.

Just because there's been hype about flu and fear-mongering out of the political situation in Ukraine doesn't mean we're out of the woods. We're not.

[micjer]

Finally! The Western Mainstream Media Reports On The Mystery Flu Plague In Ukraine As The Death Toll Reaches 299


http://thebirdflupandemic.com/archiv...ll-reaches-299

Some western mainstream media outlets are finally reporting on the mystery flu plague in Ukraine as the death toll there has now reached 299. In fact, one newspaper in the U.K. is even linking the outbreak in Ukraine to the 1918 Spanish flu that killed between 50 and 100 million people across the globe in the early portion of the last century. Reports from medical personnel on the ground in Ukraine continue to be very disturbing. In fact, one doctor is reporting that the virus is turning the lungs of patients "as black as charcoal" and that the situation there is "terrifying".

The truth is that all major mainstream media outlets should have been reporting on the mystery outbeak in Ukraine over a week ago. Incredibly disturbing reports have been coming out of Ukraine for quite some time now, and those reports have pretty much only been covered by a handful of alternative news sites such as this one.

But now fortunately a few outlets in the western mainstream media are picking up this story. For example, The Daily Mail ran a story on Sunday that featured this headline: "British scientists testing Ukrainian 'super flu' that has killed 189 people".

con't....

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by micjer

Finally! The Western Mainstream Media Reports On The Mystery Flu Plague In Ukraine As The Death Toll Reaches 299


http://thebirdflupandemic.com/archiv...ll-reaches-299

Some western mainstream media outlets are finally reporting on the mystery flu plague in Ukraine as the death toll there has now reached 299. In fact, one newspaper in the U.K. is even linking the outbreak in Ukraine to the 1918 Spanish flu that killed between 50 and 100 million people across the globe in the early portion of the last century. Reports from medical personnel on the ground in Ukraine continue to be very disturbing. In fact, one doctor is reporting that the virus is turning the lungs of patients "as black as charcoal" and that the situation there is "terrifying".

The truth is that all major mainstream media outlets should have been reporting on the mystery outbeak in Ukraine over a week ago. Incredibly disturbing reports have been coming out of Ukraine for quite some time now, and those reports have pretty much only been covered by a handful of alternative news sites such as this one.

But now fortunately a few outlets in the western mainstream media are picking up this story. For example, The Daily Mail ran a story on Sunday that featured this headline: "British scientists testing Ukrainian 'super flu' that has killed 189 people".

con't....

After listening to Dr. Niman on Jeff Rense Radio over a week ago, Dr. Niman at that time said that autopsies were done on 2 dead bodies in the Ukraine, & in both bodies, the lungs were turned to mush.....totally disintegrated. This sounds exactly like what you posted in in the article above. So I'm wondering now if Dr. Niman is on the up & up. I have been listening to his last few interviews....Dr. Niman himself was sick twice while in the interviews. One thing is for sure, there is some kind of a virus making the rounds in Ukraine, & its highly possible that the government there are using it to their advantage.

[Moxie]

I've sent email inquiries to our local news including links about this Ukraine mystery flu to try & find out why there is no coverage. Perhaps more of us should do this.

[iainl140285]

There are NO black lungs according to this:
http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a2994.htm#005

[Mauree]

There is a link on the Camelot website and goes to a Coroner who speaks about the new strain of flue. He says that it attacks the lungs but is not pnumonia. He goes on to say that we should not take antibotics for it as this only lowers the immune system still further! But instead he says we should build up our immnue systems and get supplys in so that we don't have to go out any more than necessary once we are aproaching the flue season!

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Mauree

There is a link on the Camelot website and goes to a Coroner who speaks about the new strain of flue. He says that it attacks the lungs but is not pnumonia. He goes on to say that we should not take antibotics for it as this only lowers the immune system still further! But instead he says we should build up our immnue systems and get supplys in so that we don't have to go out any more than necessary once we are aproaching the flue season!

One thing about that article that confuses me is that the coroner says that patients who are being treated for that flu should be given Tamiflu on the second or third day! Give a patient a toxin???

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by Seashore

One thing about that article that confuses me is that the coroner says that patients who are being treated for that flu should be given Tamiflu on the second or third day! Give a patient a toxin???

Seashore: have you noticed how much confusing mixed messages we are being given about Tamiflu..........it spans from taking it to not taking it, to it will not work on the H1N1 virus. Just par for the course of mass confusion on this subject I guess.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Seashore: have you noticed how much confusing mixed messages we are being given about Tamiflu..........it spans from taking it to not taking it, to it will not work on the H1N1 virus. Just par for the course of mass confusion on this subject I guess.

I was really amazed that this Ukrainian coroner said it. But maybe there's some explanation for it.

Maybe there is something in the Tamiflu that is indicated only in a life or death situation. I don't know.

[mntruthseeker]

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...han-swine-flu-


Not one more word regarding the spraying..............maybe thats why they waited over a month to report things

[burgundia]

russia calls for international investigation regarding the flu pandemic. the ground for this is the information in the western media that it is a conspiracy between WHO and big pharmaceutical companies. if the corruption in WHO is true they threaten to suspend their memebership in the organization.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by burgundia

russia calls for international investigation regarding the flu pandemic. the ground for this is the information in the western media that it is a conspiracy between WHO and big pharmaceutical companies. if the corruption in WHO is true they threaten to suspend their memebership in the organization.

We should all get out of the U.N.

[artvision]

The proteic viral signature of the virus from Ukraine is confirmed from all of 4 death cases where sampled, D225G `(same as for H5N1 - the 1918 Spanish Flu Epidemic virus) as that the new disease will be ease in our bodies by the our immunitary defense system, as a distorted response of it for the person which:

a) had before the swine flu disease (this is not acting as a immunization, like for other disease - like smallpox for example)
b) took the swine flu vaccine

Such, now is proven the real purpose of the vaccine. Answered the question, why they stil promote the vaccine, even after the Big Pharma took their monies.

More details here:

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11...25G_Evade.html