What is 2012? (or "The Great Harvest")

[Allie]

I'm certainly no expert on this but might your 'service to others' attitude in turn affect your frequency? So it's less a case of focusing on how to increase a personal frequency and more a case of focusing on a personal attitude/spirituality?

In our hearts and actions, we do know the difference between 'right' and 'wrong'. I think our problem sometimes lies in the fact that we experience a negative event or person, we place a blame on them for creating that feeling. Where in truth, no one can make us feel something that isn't already within us. I think it was Eleanor Roosevelt who said "No one can make you feel inferior without your permission'. For 'inferior', substitute any other emotion. My own view is that once you begin addressing these things, perhaps your frequency (whatever that may mean!) will rise accordingly?

With regard to the Solfeggion frequencies, you could try 'Googling' 'Holy Harmony' by Jonathan Goldman or alternatively, go to YouTube as there are many different Solfeggio frequencies on there. 'Holy Harmony', I believe, might have them all.

[dolphin]

Originally Posted by Allie

I'm certainly no expert on this but might your 'service to others' attitude in turn affect your frequency? So it's less a case of focusing on how to increase a personal frequency and more a case of focusing on a personal attitude/spirituality?

In our hearts and actions, we do know the difference between 'right' and 'wrong'. I think our problem sometimes lies in the fact that we experience a negative event or person, we place a blame on them for creating that feeling. Where in truth, no one can make us feel something that isn't already within us. I think it was Eleanor Roosevelt who said "No one can make you feel inferior without your permission'. For 'inferior', substitute any other emotion. My own view is that once you begin addressing these things, perhaps your frequency (whatever that may mean!) will rise accordingly?

With regard to the Solfeggion frequencies, you could try 'Googling' 'Holy Harmony' by Jonathan Goldman or alternatively, go to YouTube as there are many different Solfeggio frequencies on there. 'Holy Harmony', I believe, might have them all.

thanks so much allie, i will try those sites! re: the "service to others"... one can interpret that in many ways. as i understand being at a high frequency according to hawkins is that a single person who calibrates very high has the ability to balance off a substantially high amount of very low frequency people.

if, let's say you are a musician or artist and your "service to others" may just be that you are vibrating at a high frequency (not saying that "all" musicians and artists are at high frequencies) and you are thus contributing to the positive energy around you, but you don't give your time to others (let's say volunteering for an organization, for ex.) in a more general way...is just doing what makes you at a high frequency considered also to be "service to others"??...

[dolphin]

...or is that "service to self" orientation????

[micjer]

Originally Posted by dolphin

upon reading the Ra, and hidden hand, and operation terra, i'm confused to what ra and hidden hand say about 51% service to others. in the terra material, it says that it is not by your deeds but by your frequency which determines one moving on to 4th density positive terra.

can anyone clarify this?

also on the Solfeggio frequencies, i've tried downloading on sanat's website but to no avail! does anyone have another site they can suggest to download? thanks!!!

http://www.astrovera.com/philosophy/...equencies.html

try this link.

[iainl140285]

Holy Harmony - free mp3 download

http://www.getpastit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5916


Iain

[recallone]

Originally Posted by Sanat

The 51% thing comes from Ra and also Hidden Hand. I have measured that this amounts to a calibration of around 330 on Hawkins scale (which is well within 4th density vibration). The majority is still below 200. Most people that will "make it" are already from higher densities. They are Wanderers. But some "humans" will also make it. But the number is low.

So, we're being measured as a means of deciding who is harvestable and who is not? I'm sorry, but this doesn't vibe for me.
It sounds a little too much like the sheep and the goats judgment from the Bible.

Originally Posted by Sanat

recallone:

No source is beyond anything. No source has "all the answers" (except Source perhaps), I agree totally. But every source or "piece of information" has its place somewhere on Hawkins scale, as does anything vibrating in Creation. There are no "lies" as opposed to Truth. Truth is all there is, it includes everything. But with various levels of distortions according to the Scale. In the below 200 stratum Truth is turned upside/down and inside/out (black=white etc). Above 200 the perspective of Truth is progressivly more and more "restored" until it is set completly right again in the top of the scale.

Can you explain to me what, exactly does the above highlighted text mean? When spirituality double-speak is employed, I've got to ask myself - What is the message they're trying to get across? In this case, I feel like its a case of the emperor's clothes. It's slippery enough to prevent anyone from getting a really solid grasp on it, yet lofty-sounding enough along the yin and yang lines to give it credibility - especially in the minds of people who are looking for the answers to come from someone else. To say that everything fits within this scale that Hawkins developed is presumptuous in nature as it assumes his theory is without its' flaws, and short-sighted as it only takes into consideration one perspective. What's more, I have a hard time resonating with the idea that our spirituality can be measured at all. Feels almost like a contest of sorts.

Originally Posted by Sanat

It's easy to "discredit" any source by picking out a simple quote from its rightful context. I don't see the Op Terra material as a "threat" to personal responsability. That impression only comes from that quote in isolation which renders it meaningless to discuss it further as it has nothing to do with the totality of their message.

As I said, I don't automatically 'discredit' an offering in its' entirety simply because I've found something that doesn't jive with my current definition of truth. But I'm also not going to allow that one thing of incongruousness to insert itself into my beliefs as fact. In convincing people that a Federation ship will show up to evacuate the chosen ones, there is definitely an element of personal responsibility being excused. It's all been decided before this incarnation sounds too much like predestination to me. What everyone needs to appreciate is the manner in which disinformation is issued. The majority of the information issued from a disinformation source is spot on with what is accepted in these types of forums. However, slight deviations are issued (once the trust of the reader has been established) to misdirect. Anything that labels one group as superior or inferior, in my eyes - is misleading. Please understand that I'm not labeling any of these sources as knowing disinformation agents. I don't know any of them. However, sensitives who channel information don't necessarily know who exactly they're getting their information from. They can relay only what is being told to them, the source of which - again - is reported as it's told. It's like picking up the telephone when it rings...only there's no caller ID. You don't know who you're talking to. There have been enough whistle-blowers shedding light on psy-ops and alien alliances for all of us to know better than to simply trust information that is channeled merely because it is channeled.

Originally Posted by Sanat

What you do not quote is this:

All those (humans and Wanderers) who incarnated with a goal of making graduation must work on themselves and go through a very difficult process of transmuting lower level vibration into higher level. This is taking personal responsability. What happens in the end (if it is a "lift off" or another kind of transport does not matter).

I don't have any doubts that we are going through a major change and that another JOLT is most certainly on the horizon. In this manner, the text is aligning itself with a commonly accepted truth. However, I don't feel its a matter of You were either chosen, or you weren't - but one of recognizing the illusory nature of this paradigm and distancing yourself from everything that seeks to attach you (and your ego) to it.

The ego wants to hold onto the past and the future, but wants nothing to do with the NOW. The ego is what will cause so many so much pain when that moment of shift is upon us. The ego deals with the false definition of self as determined by the individual's success and possessions. The ego is attached to the means in which it manipulates energy from others through control dramas. For those of you unfamiliar with Control Dramas..

1. “Poor me” control drama: People play the victim and appealing for sympathy. We give energy to this drama by feeling bad for the person and taking the person’s side. It’s the opposite of positive thinking.

2. “Aloof” control drama: It’s like having an air of mystery about oneself and using that “mystery” to get the attention, wonder, curiosity of people around them. It’s a certain snobbishness which seems to say “I am above you all.”

3. “Interrogator” control drama: People ask a lot of questions and pronounce judgements on others. They are critical, self righteous, questioning all the time, sarcastic, sceptical and even undermining.

4. “Intimidator” control drama: People threaten and instill fear to get energy. Violence is often accompanied by this drama.

These control dramas are used by the ego to enforce the Maya, the cosmic delusion. Transcending them is essential in the ascension process. When that moment of clarity presents itself, and there are no more lies to hold up the illusion - there will be a terrific tug-of-war happening within every one of us. For those overly attached to the drama and the ego - they will likely go mad. For those who are aware of it and have been doing the work to rise above it and are expecting this cleansing, will understand what is happening and make the shift. The fourth dimension, I should add - is a temporary new residence. Just as many other alien beings have the ability to navigate various dimensions, so shall we. 5th dimension will become par for the course for those that understand what is to come and are less about the individual as they are about the whole. There is no one person on this earth who has more or less of an advantage. We're all here right now because we all chose to be here right now.

Enforcing the idea that some are meant to be saved and others are meant to die doesn't gel with me. I fully embrace that there is no true death, so pursuing that line is unnecessary, but I refuse to believe that I am subject to some cosmic game of roulette whereas my fate has already been determined. I am a God. So are all of you. We are all one in the same. Conduct yourself accordingly and stop waiting for a God outside of yourself to save you.

Originally Posted by Sanat

This being said, I understand the sincerity in your post, and it is appreciated as a reminder that we cannot put our trust into anything but ourselves. Thanks a lot!

Thank you for receiving this with the energy that it was intended. I was kind of holding my breath about it a little bit, but ultimately - I decided that I would want a different perspective if I was operating from only one, and so I felt compelled to write. This is all about discovering what we already know - we're merely uncovering the truth. Without attaching to any of it, we're free to discard all of it when clearer, more complete truth presents itself. Look to no one for answers, look within. Just as many of us have come to realize that our old religions weren't necessarily inaccurate so much as they were incomplete, so too must we look upon the offerings of today as having the potential to be tainted, whether knowingly or not. Trust your own vibration to lead you. If something doesn't resonate with you, don't just fall in line with others that are stamping it as TRUE - allow the messiah inside of you to make that determination.

Peace and light
recallone

[recallone]

There are some really good solfeggios offered from JezebelDecibel on youtube.
Sedona1111 is another good one. There's a link on his page to his site where you can download some freqs too.

Here's a playlist of some various solfeggios and warm fuzzies.
Good feeling stuff, for sure.

Peace

[Sanat]

Thank you for stating your opinion with regards to certain issues, recallone. And thereby adding value to this thread. Nice nick btw. Re(C)allone.

I remind you that I have no interest in convincing you or anyone of anything. If asked, I will respond to questions. I will avoid engaging in "discussion" where the implicit "understanding" is that of trying to convince (each other). That only creates conflict and drains energy. I am not asking anyone to "belive". I try to stimulate people towards investigating for themselves and thinkin for themselves. Providing "(thought)provoking" info is one way of doing just that. It is perfectly OK with me that you or other people see things differently.

I don't have a "rigid" idea of Hawkins scale. It is just my understanding that there is, in fact, a scale corresponding to levels of Consciousness. And I imagine that scale being from 1 to 1000 in such a way that everything in Existence fits somewhere on that scale (in the human sphere at least. meaning what a human can experience). To learn more about this scale etc. I suggest you visit my website which to a large degree is dedicated to it.

If you are in fact, as you say, "a God", than you must be very happy. There should be very little trouble for you in your existence, and you should be able to understand everything, no? A seed/seedling is not yet a fullblown flower, although it contains that possibility inside itself as a potential.

What I mean by truth being "upside/down" and "inside/out" in the lower part of the scale? Most people serve their ego (i.e. sense of being an isolated I) first, and care little about anyone else. That is upside down since everyone else is also you. If everyone served others first there would be great excess and abundance (both of material things and of Love in Harmony/Balance) as is the natural state of Creation itself. The whole of nature is selfless service to the totality. Only man wants to own Creation.

If something resonate as true for a person it will be true for that person at that time of development. That is all that matters. External sources like channled messages are just confirming what many already know inside themselves, and thus they "resonate" with it. This "resonating" is all the "confirmation" many people need. They are using their discernment. It's not about believing "blindly", but rather about being open for perspectives like you say.

Level of Consciousness is simply a Scale of Happiness. In the lower end you are not very happy (below 200 many are so unhappy that they delude themselves into believing that "this is how it is" and that they are, in fact; "very happy" and "successful". They can smile and act cheerful, but below the surface they are "cooking" and they refuse to look there). In the middle stratum happiness is more evident, but still attached to outside conditions, achievements etc. In the upper stratum Happiness comes from Source itself like a constant stream of Joy up the spine. There you are in the playful moment, no future/past worries. No ambitions and attachments to outside things for happiness is revealed as true identity of Being.

Just look at us. Everything is backwards. Everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information, and religion destroys spirituality. - Michael Ellner

Ps. Thanks for those Solfeggio links! Great stuff!

[towhatend]

Hi Sanat, many thanks for putting this together. More reading necessary!!
Something of interest. I recently had a short session with a SCIO machine and as part of the information that came from my body at that particular moment my aura colour was light blue. The operator of the machine had compiled some notes from different sources on the meaning of the different colours. Light blue indicated service to others(her words). It was nice to get some feedback on changes that I'd been making to my output. For others who may seek to see "how they're doing" I'm happy to pass on the details.

As a signing off, this is a wonderful time to be incarnate

regards, towhatend

[Sanat]

Hi Towhatend!

I get some questions about this "service to others (StO)" vs. "service to self (StS)" thing. I am not familiar with the "machine" you mention. But I will use this opportunity to adress the issue in general.

It is important not to think that doing what you like is somehow "egoistic" or StS. Developing talents and doing what you like is natural. Following your highest Joy is probably the best Service to Others you can provide. StO is not so much about "outer behavior" as it is about inner attitude. Eating a good meal in gratitude is StO as you need food to be of any use/service at all. Detaching from the fruit of ones actions is a great way of practicing StO. Simply do things because you feel Joy and Excitement by doing it. StO is not about what people "think of you" (Oh, everybody says I am so generous. I donate half my pay to charity etc.) It is not about that at all. Not expecting anything from anyone is great StO polarization. It grinds down the ego if it can be practised with "success" over time. Simply working on oneself and cleansing oneself (both mind and body) is not "egoistical", but highly polarzing towards StO. You cannot be a good mirror to others if you are full of dirt. First clean your own mirror, and then certain people will want to look in that clean mirror to see who they really are and clean themselves.

Most people are in the "indifferent zone" so to speak. They are not using their free will to polarize towards neither StS or StO. They have enough with simply getting by in the struggle of everyday life.

StS polarization is about power over others. It is about control and not allowing free will in others. It's simply cultivating one's ego and sense of being an isolated separate "I" in a very hostile world. Everyone has this ego inside them in various degrees. Free will can be used to "wear it down" or to cultivate it. The ego projects blame on to others (the world etc.) always. Taking self-responsality is a great way of wearing it down. The battle between Light and darkness is in everything, but it can only be "won" inside each individual.

To further understand the two "main paths" of StO and StS I suggest looking at RA's material here (where you can Browse by Category): http://www.lawofone.info/

Thanks!

Love/Light,

Sanat

[LiquidSwordz]

Sorry to tell you Sanat, but your friend Ra is a TOTAL joke, when it comes to the building of the pyramids. Im not sure why you believe all this stuff to be true. Heres a link of PROOF, on how the pyramids were built!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lasCXujNPfs


I'll read your others sources, but your friend Ra is a fluke! Ra clearly states in this response, that THEY built the pyramids! These guys are nuts!


III. RA MADE CONTACT WITH EARTH PEOPLES

A. RA WAS AT THE 6TH DIMENSION WHEN EARTH WAS VISITED

RA: I am part of the social memory complex that voyaged outward from a planet in your solar system, the one you call Venus. We are a race old in your measures. When we were at the 6th dimension our physical beings were what you call golden. We were tall and somewhat delicate. The covering of our physical body complex had a golden luster. In this form we decided to come among your peoples. Your peoples were much unlike us in physical appearance. Thus we did not mix well with the population and were obviously other than they. Our visit was relatively short. This was when we built the pyramids.

[Sanat]

Thanks for stating your opinion! You don't have to be sorry for that at all. Your opinion is as valuable as anyone elses, but it has little to do with me or anyone else, and much more to do with yourself. What you choose to regard as proof is up to you. I am sure many others would see things diffrently. Feel free to check out any sources you wish. Again, that is your business.

Thanks!

- Sanat

[recallone]

Some more balance...

Did Aliens build the Pyramids? Part one
Did Aliens build the Pyramids? Part two
Did Aliens build the Pyramids? Part three

Personally, I don't think man alone could have done it. Even today, with our current technology - we still aren't able to duplicate the great Pyramid of Giza, or any others for that matter. Too many unanswered questions - failed theories. I don't give the Law of One too much credit for reasons stated previously, but I don't think this was done by humans. Where are the records of this monumental undertaking? Where is all the debris? How could they have used logs to roll the great stones in a land that only has a handful of palm trees? If you do the math concerning all of the theories, you'll likely reach the same conclusions, especially when you consider the pyramids on Mars and their placement.

Peace.
recallone

[towhatend]

Hi Sanat, thanks for your reply to my post. In understanding STO, ego(physicality) is eschewed, sometimes!! and all the time!! that's the tricky part, sometimes!!! Anyways, thanks for writing what I'm feeling. Its great to share!! Have a good one.

[micjer]

Originally Posted by recallone

Some more balance...


Personally, I don't think man alone could have done it. Even today, with our current technology - we still aren't able to duplicate the great Pyramid of Giza, or any others for that matter. Too many unanswered questions - failed theories. I don't give the Law of One too much credit for reasons stated previously, but I don't think this was done by humans. Where are the records of this monumental undertaking? Where is all the debris? How could they have used logs to roll the great stones in a land that only has a handful of palm trees? If you do the math concerning all of the theories, you'll likely reach the same conclusions, especially when you consider the pyramids on Mars and their placement.

Peace.
recallone

I agree. The theory of an inside ramp might prove how they got the stones up to the top (though I doubt it) but it does not explain how the rocks were so accurately placed together or how they moved them so far over stone roads.

[Sanat]

Hi all! Thanks for making this thread interesting and valuable! I have tried to sort of sum up the essence in one article/message on my website. I will post the beginning of it here, and those that wish can read the rest on the site:

2012 and the Great Harvest

There is so much speculation about what 2012 is all about, and what will “happen”. In this report I will try to present a brief overview based on my research and intuitive understanding. Let’s start out with a quote from Terrence McKenna:

We all feel the growing sense of “urgency” as “time/events/karma” is condensed more and more up against the looming “deadline” of the Continuum - the eternal Present/Now. All accumulated past must be played/cleansed out in a shorter and shorter span of time. The “future” is a projection of the past, and both are subject to change from the eternal Now. Thus, cleansing out the “past” also automatically rids us from a corresponding amount of “future”. We are indeed moving headlong into the playful peak of the eternal Moment, where past/future worries don’t exist. Forgiveness, let go and Acceptance of Self/Others is key in this process.

Everyone benefits from participating in the ending of this cycle. Lessons are learned at a much greater speed than usual. Karma is being balanced out at record rate. Some call it “instant karma”. The potential for rapid growth is huge as polarization is amplified in everyone and everything. Timelines are being untangled from each other, and so are people. All darkness/unconsciousness/negativity is being brought to the Light of Awareness to be processed out of the system. But where are we going with all this? What will be the peak of the experience?

http://www.wakeupcall2012.com/messages.html

Hope you enjoy! And questions/comments are always welcome...

Thanks a lot!

Light/Love,

Sanat

[micjer]

Sanat,

I was reading some of your material. Thanks for that.

In reading some of the LawOfOne material, I read one statement that stood out. Session17:33. Ra states that it is as hard to achieve 51% service to others as it is to achieve 5% service to self for those going to 4th density negative.

Ra says not many will qualify for 4th density negative, so does this imply that not many are going to be eligible for harvest to the positive?

Also what things do you feel are services to others?David Wilcock says this does not mean going and helping out at soup kitchens.

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by micjer

Sanat,

I was reading some of your material. Thanks for that.

In reading some of the LawOfOne material, I read one statement that stood out. Session17:33. Ra states that it is as hard to achieve 51% service to others as it is to achieve 5% service to self for those going to 4th density negative.

Ra says not many will qualify for 4th density negative, so does this imply that not many are going to be eligible for harvest to the positive?

Also what things do you feel are services to others?David Wilcock says this does not mean going and helping out at soup kitchens.

If you read the whole article/message (my last post above with link) it will perhaps clarify some of these things you ask about. Very few "Earthlings" (i.e. the “indigenous population” so to speak) have a realistic chance of making positive harvest into 4th density. The vast majority fall in between positive and negative harvest. This being said; 40-45% (according to my research) of the current population are not of the “indigenous population”, but what Ra refers to as "Wanderers" (Star kids/seeds). Many of these Wanderers are already way above the limit. Many have no idea they are Wanderers (and that is the way it is supposed to be). Most of this is adressed in my latest message/article...

Service to others is an "orientation", and not so much what you do "outside". Being dedicated to spiritual growth is the best service to others there is. This is adressed in a post above.

Love,

Sanat

[micjer]

"The vast numbers of Wanderers ( around 40-45% of the current population) are here to both increase the positive Harvest, and to ensure that the process of “birthing” this 3rd density plane into a 4th density plane will go as smoothly as possible. Only a small percentage of these Wanderers (and the Earthlings that do qualify) will go to the new 4th density positive"


You wrote this in your message for Nov 30 08. My math would say that there are approx 3B wanderers. Ra states that there are approximately 60 million.

Maybe you meant 40-45 % of the wanderers are here to ensure the birthing process. Just confused!

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by micjer

"The vast numbers of Wanderers ( around 40-45% of the current population) are here to both increase the positive Harvest, and to ensure that the process of “birthing” this 3rd density plane into a 4th density plane will go as smoothly as possible. Only a small percentage of these Wanderers (and the Earthlings that do qualify) will go to the new 4th density positive"


You wrote this in your message for Nov 30 08. My math would say that there are approx 3B wanderers. Ra states that there are approxiametly 60 million.

Maybe you meant 40-45 % of the wanderers are here to ensure the birthing process. Just confused!

Remember that the RA material came out in the early 80's (80-83). He said that at that time there was around 60 million Wanderers on the planet. However he also said that they were coming in at a record rate at that time (and this probably have been continuing) due to the enourmous demand for Light.

[pontfx]

just watched some of the videos...with bill deagle. and david willcock ...the common denominator?....go to http://people.tribe.net/pontfx333 for info and pics...from a witness...

[pontfx]

Originally Posted by Allie

I'm certainly no expert on this but might your 'service to others' attitude in turn affect your frequency? So it's less a case of focusing on how to increase a personal frequency and more a case of focusing on a personal attitude/spirituality?

In our hearts and actions, we do know the difference between 'right' and 'wrong'. I think our problem sometimes lies in the fact that we experience a negative event or person, we place a blame on them for creating that feeling. Where in truth, no one can make us feel something that isn't already within us. I think it was Eleanor Roosevelt who said "No one can make you feel inferior without your permission'. For 'inferior', substitute any other emotion. My own view is that once you begin addressing these things, perhaps your frequency (whatever that may mean!) will rise accordingly?

With regard to the Solfeggion frequencies, you could try 'Googling' 'Holy Harmony' by Jonathan Goldman or alternatively, go to YouTube as there are many different Solfeggio frequencies on there. 'Holy Harmony', I believe, might have them all.

http://people.tribe.net/pontfx333 see info

[islandman]

Hi Sanat,

Thanks for this post, it is a welcome relief from the mad swirl of information/disinformation out there.

If its not to personal, How would you classify yourself? Wanderer, positive 3rd density ect and how did you find out. While Im sure the answer will come with much work on the self, I am wondering if there are any tell tale signs.

Keep up the good work.

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by islandman

Hi Sanat,

Thanks for this post, it is a welcome relief from the mad swirl of information/disinformation out there.

If its not to personal, How would you classify yourself? Wanderer, positive 3rd density ect and how did you find out. While Im sure the answer will come with much work on the self, I am wondering if there are any tell tale signs.

Keep up the good work.

Hi Islandman! Thanks! You too!

I am a Wanderer that came in from 5th density (i.e. my incarnation level was around 390 on the scale). I took in a lot of "darkness" and thus spent most of my life in the lower end of the scale (several years as low as 50 with heavy drinking, hopelessness and depression etc.). Yoga and a friend (another Wanderer) became my "wakeupcall". When I got the taste of "the real" I became very dedicated towards the seeking of Heart/Self. I became almost obsessed with cleansing myself (first more physical, and later more spiritual). It was some pretty rough years of transmuting all the darkness I had taken in and throwing off the conditioning (I was very ill physically for a year or so with rashes all over my body etc.) Eventually I got all cleaned up. Most of my "friends" was stripped away in that process.

The seeking/healing process eventually lead me to a group of dedicated seekers (r)evolving around a highly evolved Being/Master/Wanderer (top of the scale). Being in that Presence increased my healing process very much, and I was able to transmute all the darkness I had taken in into Light, and thus abide in the peace of the Present moment at all times.

The answers come from inner knowing. Darkness/ignorance transmuted into Light of Awareness. Not knowing is a great catalyst for search. And searching is the only way to get anywhere. Searching implies being able to admit "I do not know" at this time. That humbleness opens the heart and allows for true searching. Most people project their doubts and all darkness onto others and the world instead of searching. You have "found" when you no longer care what you are (wanderer or no wanderer. Positive harvest or no positive harvest). You are happy as things are right now. All else is just a game to make people realize it's all a game

[micjer]

Sanat,

Your old friends may have been stripped away, but you have certainly found new ones here.

My wife and I were talking the other night how our immediate friends have changed lately. It seems that the more negative people in our lives have been left behind. Seems we don't have much in common anymore. Our current group of friends are very "alive" and loving people. The type that would help out in a time of crisis. Some of them are not as "awake" as we might like but on the other hand are certainly service to others type.

It is amazing how you recognize the negative energies so much quicker now adays. The type that you prefer not to talk to long because they are bringing your emotions down to their level.