What Will It Take to Defeat the "New World Order"? - Page 4

Seashore · 05-19-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Paramartasaya

"Whistleblower dies in suspicious circumstances
On Stage at UFO Conference"

This is a good article but I'm unclear how it relates to the thread title...

Barron · 05-20-2009, 09:08 AM

Stop or limit their funding. How? By putting pressure on your local politicians to say NO when their countries representatives attend the big Copenhagen meeting in December whereby the One World Govt cronies are gonna try and pass the carbon taxes.

Seashore · 05-20-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Barron

Stop or limit their funding. How? By putting pressure on your local politicians to say NO when their countries representatives attend the big Copenhagen meeting in December whereby the One World Govt cronies are gonna try and pass the carbon taxes.

You know, the importance of local government has come up on the US Constitution thread. I have been used to thinking only in terms of the federal government. But it's easier to get involved in local government, it's a good place to "learn the ropes," and I understand that local governments are rubber stamping United Nations mandates!

Tango · 05-21-2009, 12:14 AM

The absolute power IS your SHERIFF... Ya'll should call a meeting with

Your Sheriff can throw, IRS, FBI, AFT, NSA, DEA, CIA IN JAIL legally... That's where the

true power is.... Here Watch:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/622.html

Now, Do you believe your lying eyes.

But, if your Sheriff is corrupt..... Well.......

Trooly,

Tango

Seashore · 05-21-2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tango

true power is.... Here Watch:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/622.html

"The President of the United States cannot tell your Sheriff what to do!"

Great find, Tango!!

Seashore · 06-03-2009, 01:30 PM

The following is commentary by Chris of informationliberation.com:

Things are bad: What do we do about it?

Analysis posted Jan 10 2009

There are many different paths people can take, but what they all have in common is this: Avoidance.

Everybody knows things are bad in the world. Everything is not peachy. The problems are innumerable, the economy, our freedoms, our happiness, our quality of life, we are suffering in all aspects of life and though we hope for a better future we feel as though the things which are outside of our control will only get worse. The situation we are in is overwhelming, we feel like there is something we can do but we don't know what to do! Whenever anyone is faced with this overwhelming situation, the question always becomes "what do we do about it?"

Do we run out on the streets? Do we protest and go on strike? People do not really know what to do, they just do nothing or else they go and look for an out to it all. They join some political party or they become religious or they start drinking or taking drugs. They try to make money or work their way out of it, or they try to pleasure their way out of it with food or sex.

When a person says "what do we do about it" they are looking for an out. They want a savior to come and save them from it all, or they want to find some distant world where they escape it all. This is totally normal and perfectly reasonable. There is nothing wrong with people for feeling this way, I am as guilty of it as anyone else and I am not above it.

The problem we are in is not one of our making. Once again: the problem we are in is not one of our making. History is filled with butchery and murder, tyranny and theocratic oppression is the norm. We've all been born into a nightmare and we're just now waking up to how terrifying and all encompassing it all is. We are searching for outs but there are none, we are hoping to one day wake up and find it was all a bad dream. This is why it's not uncommon to hear the question "what do we do about it?"

There are endless people who say they have found the outs.

"It's the economic system!" they say,
"It's the government!" they say,
"It's the religions!" they say.

None of these things are at the root of the problem. How do I know this? Because none of these things are actually real. History has been dominated by these three systems but what do they all have in common... ?

They are all faith-based belief systems.

Economics is not actually a science, the entire system is based on faith. If no one believed the money they or anyone else had was worth anything, it would not be worth anything. Are you starting to get the picture? It's a belief system, it's based on faith and nothing more. Many people realize this, what most do not realize is that "government" is the same thing. There is no such thing as a "government." Government is an idea, to quote GHWB on the New World Order, "It is a big idea." People think that the government is something real, they see the huge buildings and pillars and statues and they feel like it is a separate entity unto itself which rules over things. This is an illusion. And this is where we start to get to the root of the problem.

Let me introduce you to a word which is in almost no ones vocabulary. The word is hypostatized. As I type it right now my Firefox spell check says it's not a word.

hypostatized
hy⋅pos⋅ta⋅tize
–verb (used with object), -tized, -tiz⋅ing.
to treat or regard (a concept, idea, etc.) as a distinct substance or reality.
Also, especially British, hy⋅pos⋅ta⋅tise.

Origin:
1820–30; < Gk hypostat(ós) (see hypostatic ) + -ize

This word describes the exact problem which is at the root of all other problems people believe they suffer from. We live in a faith based system, we live in a belief system, we think it is real and a distinct substance but it is not, we are only regarding it as such.

Just as the power of money would cease to exist if people did not believe in it, the power of government would cease to exist if no one believed in it. And I say that knowing what I'm talking about is a nonexistent entity which does not exist outside of peoples minds.

You see, when you understand this the problem is not what do we do about it, the problem is why have people ceased for thousands of years to realize this extremely basic fact of life? Why do people believe this nonsense and let it run their lives?

Because at the root of everything is the most basic human condition and the most basic and all pervasive of human problems, the avoidance of the obvious. Everybody knows what is wrong with the world and themselves, the problems are not complex, but people avoid the basic solutions which are staring them right in the face. They do not want to face up to the truth, they do not want the responsibility which it implies, they are afraid of life and of actually living.

This is the real problem with the world, it's blatant and it's staring you in the face. When you look at a puppy or a child they are free, they don't recognize the false belief systems and fake systems of control which we "civilized" adults all believe are basic and real, all they recognize is life, their feelings, their soul, their spirit, these things are the essence of life.

People believe themselves to be their beliefs, they say things like "I'm a Christian,"
"I'm a Democrat,"
"I'm a Philosopher,"
"I'm a Salesman,"

No. That is what you believe yourself to be. What you really are is your spirit, you are your mind, your soul, you are your feelings, you are your yearnings and your hopes and dreams. You are the spirit you had in you as a child and the spirit that is in a gallant puppy dog at the park.

You've been tricked into hypostatizing so many beliefs to the point where you actually think that they are what you are. I am here to tell you that you are not your beliefs, you need to wake up to this, this is the only thing keeping you from being truly free. Everyone needs to realize this, stop believing in the system and realize there is no system. Stop believing and start living!

Once you realize all this the question becomes how do you regain life? When you really look at life you see how all life is spontaneous in origin, it happens of itself. There is nothing to "do" there is just something to "be." We need to reinvent the term "be yourself" to literally mean "be" yourself. Nowadays it means much more "do" yourself IE "be the best lawyer or salesman or businessman you can be through doing lots of work!"

The regaining of life is a process, it's a process where you get back in touch with the spirit and spontaneity which is inside you and begin to liberate your suppressed feelings and expressions. Whereas if you were dead inside you would suppress all your spontaneity, if you are alive inside you express all your spontaneous feelings and just be yourself in the literal sense! It is both fun and liberating, you will feel good as a result of it, and you will free yourself and the world with it! Don't worry if it all doesn't happen at once, it took years to brainwash you and suppress your spirit and it will take time to deprogram yourself and refresh your spirit, but with every little victory you, and the world, will become more free!

"Trust the quiet inner voice that tells you what to do. You hold your life in your hands, don't entrust it to anyone else, least of all to your chosen leaders. BE YOURSELF! Any number of great men have told you that." - Wilhelm Reich

246 · 06-04-2009, 02:47 AM

Go out and do something different and special for yourselves as long as it doesnt hurt anyone. That means not buying negative magazines of the paparazzi that feed on the lives of celebrities. It may mean go running naked through a forest if that's what you've always wanted to do. The rule is take responsibility and dont do anything that would hurt others. But as long as that rule is followed, go do something you've always wanted to do. Go do something special for yourselves. It could be small, it could be huge, just go do it and celebrate your uniqueness. Celebrate your differences. The common ground between us all is the need to grow. That search for meaning. And the search leads right back to ourselves! Those gnawing little things you've always wanted to do. Just go do them! This is the most positive and subversive thing I can put out there. It gets everyone thinking outside of their brainwashed boxes. It makes them think about what they've always wanted to do for themselves. Getting people to do something special for themselves gets them to feel better about themselves. It's a nightmare for the controllers of the world because everyone is suddenly out there doing those unique things that are special to them, instead of just watching TV. Maybe for some people the things they've always wanted to do is go help others help themselves. So it's all positive.

Seashore · 06-04-2009, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 246

It's a nightmare for the controllers of the world because everyone is suddenly out there doing those unique things that are special to them, instead of just watching TV.

Thank you!

Seashore · 06-25-2009, 01:44 PM

For newbies to this question around the world, here are some suggestions:

1. Turn the TV off and leave it off. Reason? You're being programmed by it. And the programming is not for your best interests. (I make one exception: "Sunrise Earth." There's no talking; it's all nature.)

2. Learn what "victim mentality" is and how it relates to this thread. Here's a thread entitled "Victim Mentality." It's housed on the Spirituality sub-forum.

3. Focus on your personal spirituality, in your own way. Allow yourself time to do this.

4. Ask yourself, "How can I use my unique abilities to spread the word?"

Tango · 06-25-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by seashore

"The President of the United States cannot tell your Sheriff what to do!"

Great find, Tango!!

All feds are to get " permission " of the Man [Sheriff] upon opening
an investigation in their county... Its always been that way...! Even
those ' Old Cow Poks ' knew the Power was with the Man. The U.S.
Marshals office always see's the Man, first...

Our Sheriff has a " tent city " for the Bad Guys. They stay outside...
day N' nite... THEY ARE CRIMMALS...

No ' Cook County ' lock up out here. It's get the stripes on, pink underware,
Even " Pink Cuffs "... So, other cops do not 'steal' the cuffs...

Look up: Maricopa County Sheriff...

I'll leave the rest for you to find....

Hell, everyone out here, carries at least one weapon. Hard to conceal out
here thoo. When it gets 116 degrees. vented holsters... N' don't leave it
in the car... You'll never be able to touch it... When you need it... I stand
outside when I start the truck, wait the A/C to cool it down.

Yeah, our Sheriff has asked feds to leave the county. If what they are
doing he feels is NOT lawful. Questionable !!!

Trooly,

Tango

Jnana · 06-25-2009, 05:27 PM

Don't fight something that doesn't even exist yet. The fact is that the current world order is corrupt and disfunctional. Preserving the status quo is certainly not a good idea. Instead of focusing on what you don't want, focus on what you do want. Imagine it. Be it.

Seashore · 06-25-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jnana

Don't fight something that doesn't even exist yet. The fact is that the current world order is corrupt and disfunctional. Preserving the status quo it is certainly not a good idea. Instead of focusing on what you don't want, focus on what you do want. Imagine it. Be it.

KathyT · 06-25-2009, 08:08 PM

[QUOTE=seashore;131362]This thread is for members who are unhappy with what is going on in the world regarding the change-over to the "New World Order," meaning bringing an end to national sovereignty and replacing it with one central government and one central bank for the planet.

What do you think it will take to defeat the New World Order?

QUOTE]

I think you are premature to even think there is going to be a 'New World Order'. At this current time, I see no chance of 1)different nationalities jumping on a bandwagon to become one nation, or 2) all governments giving up their individual sovereignty. It is not happening now, and I don't think it will.

Seashore · 06-25-2009, 08:17 PM

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I think you are premature to even think there is going to be a 'New World Order'. At this current time, I see no chance of 1)different nationalities jumping on a bandwagon to become one nation, or 2) all governments giving up their individual sovereignty. It is not happening now, and I don't think it will.

It's happening via. the "totalitarian tiptoe."

orthodoxymoron · 06-26-2009, 12:09 AM

[quote=KathyT;147898]

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Originally Posted by seashore

This thread is for members who are unhappy with what is going on in the world regarding the change-over to the "New World Order," meaning bringing an end to national sovereignty and replacing it with one central government and one central bank for the planet.

What do you think it will take to defeat the New World Order?

QUOTE]

I think you are premature to even think there is going to be a 'New World Order'. At this current time, I see no chance of 1)different nationalities jumping on a bandwagon to become one nation, or 2) all governments giving up their individual sovereignty. It is not happening now, and I don't think it will.

Some have suggested that the New World Order has existed for a long time...as 'rule by secrecy'. National soveriegnty has been an illusion...to keep the peasants happy. Now the NWO is coming out of the closet...so to speak. Jim Marr's book 'Rule by Secrecy' really opened my eyes. I am currently reading 'Rise of the Fourth Reich' by Jim Marrs...and I highly recommend it. Another good one is 'Behold a Pale Horse' by Bill Cooper. See 'UFO's-The Secret Government' on YouTube. If just 10% of this stuff is true...we're in very deep trouble. Also...check out Alex Jones on prisonplanet.com...if you don't mind ranting and raving.

My answer...is to get informed without getting mad...and focus on the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...in a non-nationalistic and non-protectionistic manner. A silver-based global currency issued by non-private national banks might not be a bad idea...as long as we don't go cashless. We the People of Earth should cooperate and peacefully interact...but we should not be RFID chipped slaves in a global dictatorship...which some say would be an Alien-Nation...or One Nation Under Satan.

If it were up to me...the solar system would be based on the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...and would apply to humans, greys, and reptilians.
I know I'm crazy...but it's more fun that way! How 'bout it Lucifer? You can make it happen...

Seashore · 06-26-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

...My answer to all of this...is to get informed without getting mad...

I am of the opinion that this is our duty and responsibility and we must put in the time and effort to do it.

I think it's healthy to get somewhat mad. Perhaps indignant is the word.

Indignant enough to do something.

orthodoxymoron · 06-26-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by seashore

I am of the opinion that this is our duty and responsibility and we must put in the time and effort to do it.

I think it's healthy to get somewhat mad. Perhaps indignant is the word.

Indignant enough to do something.

I worry about civil unrest...resulting in martial-law...suspension of the Constitution...people being herded into FEMA camps, etc, etc. It may take a huge amount of discipline not to lose it when we really find out what is really going on...and when things really heat up. Obviously, I'm not a 'Shotgun in my Truck Constitutionalist'.
I guess I'm a 'United Nations Constitutionalist'. That makes everyone mad. That's why I call myself 'orthodoxymoron'.

Seashore · 06-26-2009, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

I worry about civil unrest...resulting in martial-law...suspension of the Constitution...people being herded into FEMA camps, etc, etc....

I don't think civil unrest will result from people being informed.

Hopefully people being informed and then doing their part to restore our Constitution and our way of life will help to prevent the bad stuff from taking place...

There are people working on this. See this thread.

orthodoxymoron · 06-26-2009, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by seashore

I don't think civil unrest will result from people being informed.

Hopefully people being informed and then doing their part to restore our Constitution and our way of life will help to prevent the bad stuff from taking place...

There are people working on this. See this thread.

Upsetting information shouted by a rebel rouser(CIA?) can make people stampede...and turn them into rebels without a clue. If people research upsetting subjects quietly and privately over a reasonable length of time...they are better able to respond responsibly...rather than reacting irresponsibly.
Wait till you see the whites of their lies. Then expose them. Nicely.

Seashore · 06-26-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Upsetting information shouted by a rebel rouser(CIA?) can make people stampede...

You're talking about a provocateur in a crowd.

Let us all focus on doing the work of educating ourselves using the internet, the radio, and talking to people. It takes time, and it takes effort. And it takes an open mind.

People have to be willing to unlearn what they've assumed to be true and then piece together a new picture, using their own common sense.

Seashore · 06-26-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Upsetting information shouted by a rebel rouser(CIA?) can make people stampede...

You're talking about a provocateur in a crowd.

People doing the work of educating themselves on the internet aren't standing in a crowd.

I think people should expect some indignation at the reality of what's going on. This is healthy, just like fear is a healthy reaction to danger. It's part of living. And it's nature protecting itself.

Humble Janitor · 06-26-2009, 09:33 AM

Absolutely nothing.

They've defeated themselves. We're just getting the last laugh.

Seashore · 06-26-2009, 09:43 AM

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Absolutely nothing.

They've defeated themselves...

Not quite.

Jnana · 06-26-2009, 02:12 PM

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rebel rouser

Interesting variation of the standard idiom "rabble rouser". Turning the rabble into rebels. I like it.

Seashore · 06-26-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jnana

Interesting variation of the standard idiom "rabble rouser". Turning the rabble into rebels. I like it.

What do you think of this?

05-20-2009, 09:08 AM	#77
Barron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 358	Re: What Will It Take to Defeat the "New World Order"? Stop or limit their funding. How? By putting pressure on your local politicians to say NO when their countries representatives attend the big Copenhagen meeting in December whereby the One World Govt cronies are gonna try and pass the carbon taxes.

05-21-2009, 12:14 AM	#79
Tango Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: eating dessert in the desert of Arizona Posts: 1,554	Re: What Will It Take to Defeat the "New World Order"? The absolute power IS your SHERIFF... Ya'll should call a meeting with Your Sheriff can throw, IRS, FBI, AFT, NSA, DEA, CIA IN JAIL legally... That's where the true power is.... Here Watch: http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/622.html Now, Do you believe your lying eyes. But, if your Sheriff is corrupt..... Well....... Trooly, Tango Last edited by Tango; 06-25-2009 at 04:37 PM.

06-03-2009, 01:30 PM	#81
Seashore Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,564	Re: What Will It Take to Defeat the "New World Order"? The following is commentary by Chris of informationliberation.com: Things are bad: What do we do about it? Analysis posted Jan 10 2009 There are many different paths people can take, but what they all have in common is this: Avoidance. Everybody knows things are bad in the world. Everything is not peachy. The problems are innumerable, the economy, our freedoms, our happiness, our quality of life, we are suffering in all aspects of life and though we hope for a better future we feel as though the things which are outside of our control will only get worse. The situation we are in is overwhelming, we feel like there is something we can do but we don't know what to do! Whenever anyone is faced with this overwhelming situation, the question always becomes "what do we do about it?" Do we run out on the streets? Do we protest and go on strike? People do not really know what to do, they just do nothing or else they go and look for an out to it all. They join some political party or they become religious or they start drinking or taking drugs. They try to make money or work their way out of it, or they try to pleasure their way out of it with food or sex. When a person says "what do we do about it" they are looking for an out. They want a savior to come and save them from it all, or they want to find some distant world where they escape it all. This is totally normal and perfectly reasonable. There is nothing wrong with people for feeling this way, I am as guilty of it as anyone else and I am not above it. The problem we are in is not one of our making. Once again: the problem we are in is not one of our making. History is filled with butchery and murder, tyranny and theocratic oppression is the norm. We've all been born into a nightmare and we're just now waking up to how terrifying and all encompassing it all is. We are searching for outs but there are none, we are hoping to one day wake up and find it was all a bad dream. This is why it's not uncommon to hear the question "what do we do about it?" There are endless people who say they have found the outs. "It's the economic system!" they say, "It's the government!" they say, "It's the religions!" they say. None of these things are at the root of the problem. How do I know this? Because none of these things are actually real. History has been dominated by these three systems but what do they all have in common... ? They are all faith-based belief systems. Economics is not actually a science, the entire system is based on faith. If no one believed the money they or anyone else had was worth anything, it would not be worth anything. Are you starting to get the picture? It's a belief system, it's based on faith and nothing more. Many people realize this, what most do not realize is that "government" is the same thing. There is no such thing as a "government." Government is an idea, to quote GHWB on the New World Order, "It is a big idea." People think that the government is something real, they see the huge buildings and pillars and statues and they feel like it is a separate entity unto itself which rules over things. This is an illusion. And this is where we start to get to the root of the problem. Let me introduce you to a word which is in almost no ones vocabulary. The word is hypostatized. As I type it right now my Firefox spell check says it's not a word. hypostatized hy⋅pos⋅ta⋅tize –verb (used with object), -tized, -tiz⋅ing. to treat or regard (a concept, idea, etc.) as a distinct substance or reality. Also, especially British, hy⋅pos⋅ta⋅tise. Origin: 1820–30; < Gk hypostat(ós) (see hypostatic ) + -ize This word describes the exact problem which is at the root of all other problems people believe they suffer from. We live in a faith based system, we live in a belief system, we think it is real and a distinct substance but it is not, we are only regarding it as such. Just as the power of money would cease to exist if people did not believe in it, the power of government would cease to exist if no one believed in it. And I say that knowing what I'm talking about is a nonexistent entity which does not exist outside of peoples minds. You see, when you understand this the problem is not what do we do about it, the problem is why have people ceased for thousands of years to realize this extremely basic fact of life? Why do people believe this nonsense and let it run their lives? Because at the root of everything is the most basic human condition and the most basic and all pervasive of human problems, the avoidance of the obvious. Everybody knows what is wrong with the world and themselves, the problems are not complex, but people avoid the basic solutions which are staring them right in the face. They do not want to face up to the truth, they do not want the responsibility which it implies, they are afraid of life and of actually living. This is the real problem with the world, it's blatant and it's staring you in the face. When you look at a puppy or a child they are free, they don't recognize the false belief systems and fake systems of control which we "civilized" adults all believe are basic and real, all they recognize is life, their feelings, their soul, their spirit, these things are the essence of life. People believe themselves to be their beliefs, they say things like "I'm a Christian," "I'm a Democrat," "I'm a Philosopher," "I'm a Salesman," No. That is what you believe yourself to be. What you really are is your spirit, you are your mind, your soul, you are your feelings, you are your yearnings and your hopes and dreams. You are the spirit you had in you as a child and the spirit that is in a gallant puppy dog at the park. You've been tricked into hypostatizing so many beliefs to the point where you actually think that they are what you are. I am here to tell you that you are not your beliefs, you need to wake up to this, this is the only thing keeping you from being truly free. Everyone needs to realize this, stop believing in the system and realize there is no system. Stop believing and start living! Once you realize all this the question becomes how do you regain life? When you really look at life you see how all life is spontaneous in origin, it happens of itself. There is nothing to "do" there is just something to "be." We need to reinvent the term "be yourself" to literally mean "be" yourself. Nowadays it means much more "do" yourself IE "be the best lawyer or salesman or businessman you can be through doing lots of work!" The regaining of life is a process, it's a process where you get back in touch with the spirit and spontaneity which is inside you and begin to liberate your suppressed feelings and expressions. Whereas if you were dead inside you would suppress all your spontaneity, if you are alive inside you express all your spontaneous feelings and just be yourself in the literal sense! It is both fun and liberating, you will feel good as a result of it, and you will free yourself and the world with it! Don't worry if it all doesn't happen at once, it took years to brainwash you and suppress your spirit and it will take time to deprogram yourself and refresh your spirit, but with every little victory you, and the world, will become more free! "Trust the quiet inner voice that tells you what to do. You hold your life in your hands, don't entrust it to anyone else, least of all to your chosen leaders. BE YOURSELF! Any number of great men have told you that." - Wilhelm Reich

06-04-2009, 02:47 AM	#82
246 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: near Toronto Posts: 81	Re: What Will It Take to Defeat the "New World Order"? Go out and do something different and special for yourselves as long as it doesnt hurt anyone. That means not buying negative magazines of the paparazzi that feed on the lives of celebrities. It may mean go running naked through a forest if that's what you've always wanted to do. The rule is take responsibility and dont do anything that would hurt others. But as long as that rule is followed, go do something you've always wanted to do. Go do something special for yourselves. It could be small, it could be huge, just go do it and celebrate your uniqueness. Celebrate your differences. The common ground between us all is the need to grow. That search for meaning. And the search leads right back to ourselves! Those gnawing little things you've always wanted to do. Just go do them! This is the most positive and subversive thing I can put out there. It gets everyone thinking outside of their brainwashed boxes. It makes them think about what they've always wanted to do for themselves. Getting people to do something special for themselves gets them to feel better about themselves. It's a nightmare for the controllers of the world because everyone is suddenly out there doing those unique things that are special to them, instead of just watching TV. Maybe for some people the things they've always wanted to do is go help others help themselves. So it's all positive.

06-25-2009, 01:44 PM	#84
Seashore Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,564	Re: What Will It Take to Defeat the "New World Order"? For newbies to this question around the world, here are some suggestions: 1. Turn the TV off and leave it off. Reason? You're being programmed by it. And the programming is not for your best interests. (I make one exception: "Sunrise Earth." There's no talking; it's all nature.) 2. Learn what "victim mentality" is and how it relates to this thread. Here's a thread entitled "Victim Mentality." It's housed on the Spirituality sub-forum. 3. Focus on your personal spirituality, in your own way. Allow yourself time to do this. 4. Ask yourself, "How can I use my unique abilities to spread the word?"

06-25-2009, 05:27 PM	#86
Jnana Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 653	Re: What Will It Take to Defeat the "New World Order"? Don't fight something that doesn't even exist yet. The fact is that the current world order is corrupt and disfunctional. Preserving the status quo is certainly not a good idea. Instead of focusing on what you don't want, focus on what you do want. Imagine it. Be it. Last edited by Jnana; 06-25-2009 at 05:44 PM.

06-25-2009, 08:08 PM	#88
KathyT Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: America Posts: 427	Re: What Will It Take to Defeat the "New World Order"? [QUOTE=seashore;131362]This thread is for members who are unhappy with what is going on in the world regarding the change-over to the "New World Order," meaning bringing an end to national sovereignty and replacing it with one central government and one central bank for the planet. What do you think it will take to defeat the New World Order? QUOTE] I think you are premature to even think there is going to be a 'New World Order'. At this current time, I see no chance of 1)different nationalities jumping on a bandwagon to become one nation, or 2) all governments giving up their individual sovereignty. It is not happening now, and I don't think it will.

06-26-2009, 09:33 AM	#97
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: What Will It Take to Defeat the "New World Order"? Absolutely nothing. They've defeated themselves. We're just getting the last laugh.