September 30th - Goodbye

[arcora]

Originally Posted by Carol

I think we need to look at the facts here and stop making assumptions. One or two of the more assertive insiders were confronting other insiders that led to conflicted hurt feelings between them. That is what happened. Henry told me so himself. I suspect they will all return once things settle down and we have a new "protection" system in place...

That may be what HD told you.

I stand by my statement that I learned his real name. That's not an assumption, that is fact.

I also stand by my statement that if I could find it, any agency interested in learning who HD actually was could find it.

My assumption is that HD will not be back.

[Carol]

Originally Posted by arcora

That may be what HD told you.

I stand by my statement that I learned his real name. That's not an assumption, that is fact.

I also stand by my statement that if I could find it, any agency interested in learning who HD actually was could find it.

My assumption is that HD will not be back.

If what you say is true arcora, then I would like to know how you discovered that information. In addition, do you realize what you just did my posting this. Have you considered you may have put yourself in danger and Henry? Is this what you want?

[arcora]

Originally Posted by Carol

If what you say is true arcora, then I would like to know how you discovered that information. In addition, do you realize what you just did my posting this. Have you considered you may have put yourself in danger and Henry? Is this what you want?

I will not tell you how I learned it because, if I did, his name would become common knowledge. I'm certain nobody here wants that.

I told you all about this in my OP for this topic.

I seriously doubt that I am in danger. A name is just a name and it would be a bad assumption to think that MIB will be arriving at my front door anytime soon because I know it. If I was worried, I would not have said anything. I have never met the man personally and don't think I ever will.

I waited to make the statement until Henry's threads were removed. This way nobody will stumble onto it in the same manner as me. That was out of respect for Henry.

I did PM the Admin (at the time) and suggested that he might want to delete the thread that led me to the info. I spoke cryptically and invited return questions. I never heard from the Admin and the thread was not removed until Henry did so himself.

I reposted my initial statement because I value my integrity and don't like it when some make contradicting statements that could cause others to think that I am a liar.

I know what I know and I know what I don't know. I speak the Truth.

I will let you all know if the MIB appear.

[Carol]

Originally Posted by arcora

That may be what HD told you.

I stand by my statement that I learned his real name. That's not an assumption, that is fact.

I also stand by my statement that if I could find it, any agency interested in learning who HD actually was could find it.

My assumption is that HD will not be back.

It is clear by your posts that your behavior is inappropriate for Avalon. This is the site for the ground crew and in reviewing your recent posts there is little evidence of recent ground crew posts.

Futhermore, I'm sorry that the mods did not respond to your earlier request. If you will let us know who you notified and when, we can check that out.

Next, I seriously doubt you know HDs real name. I'm aware also of the link you referred to. HD is used to dealing with these folks all the time and knows how to take care of himself.

However, your post could be seen as reckless and demonstrates lack of judgment and disrespect toward HD. Is this how you want others to see you?




Kerry and I (Bill) are in strong agreement about the following:

There's a 'funneling' function - a directional process - which leads from Camelot to Avalon.

People get their data from Camelot (if they don't have it already). Avalon is then what to do about it.

[Frank Samuel]

I do not know if you notice but this looks like a food fight to me.
For the record I advice Bill and Kerry not to make this an exclusive membership only. Be inclusive of all irregardless of fees or not.
As you can see by the number of viewers on this thread not many happy people. Now I don't want to buy anybody's book, but hey people Bill and Kerry
got to try and live as far as I know they do not have any other source of income and many of us made a money pledge, chuuksss.
Oool Dood I feel your pain since I got to fix my roof. Yes!!! we need a little humour you ol dog
On the serious side hey I thank Bill and Kerry for project avOlOn home of the looney toons

[Sherab]

Originally Posted by kahunamahalo

this is a damn expensive forum then. Perhaps it's a bailout?

lol!

[Shechaiyah]

There are some really kewl and grooovy people here.

I'll stick around.


Shech--

[ramallamamama]

Originally Posted by Kahunamahalo

This is a damn expensive forum then. Perhaps it's a bailout?

It's not a bailout, it's a financial rescue plan.

[Angel of the Mists]

Ummmm.....I'm picking up a few different angles here....

I agree with ramallamamama.....I don't see any proposed subscription as a bailout either...but Bill and Kerry have no source of income....other than the odd donantion to Project Camelot, and it sure must cost plenty to travel the way they travel and gather the information for us to then read and either use to inform our own view points, or to pull to shreds.

Let me also quote unlimited mind:

'after saying all of this, i do hope that whatever we see here on this forum that we really don't approve of, we get the message to find out why that might be an issue within ourselves...before we go out discrediting another divine being's perceptions in their own journey.

we are here to support one another on this journey people, to be of service to others. our minds are forever linked together now, so do me a favor, help me transmute the attitudes that are holding this group mind apart. it will bring unity and oneness.'


It seems to me this is a gift we can give each other...we can learn about ourselves if we look at the reactions others bring up within us....but we need to be open to accepting there may be something we need to change, and only we as individuals can do that for ourselves.

I say again there are many different abilities and attributes represented on this forum.... The Ground Crew needs many different abilities and attributes to suuccessfully complete the job ahead. Let's not lose sight of our purpose.

Angel of the Mists

[Shellie]

Originally Posted by Angel of the Mists

Ummmm.....I'm picking up a few different angles here....

I agree with ramallamamama.....I don't see any proposed subscription as a bailout either...but Bill and Kerry have no source of income....other than the odd donantion to Project Camelot, and it sure must cost plenty to travel the way they travel and gather the information for us to then read and either use to inform our own view points, or to pull to shreds.

Let me also quote unlimited mind:

'after saying all of this, i do hope that whatever we see here on this forum that we really don't approve of, we get the message to find out why that might be an issue within ourselves...before we go out discrediting another divine being's perceptions in their own journey.

we are here to support one another on this journey people, to be of service to others. our minds are forever linked together now, so do me a favor, help me transmute the attitudes that are holding this group mind apart. it will bring unity and oneness.'


It seems to me this is a gift we can give each other...we can learn about ourselves if we look at the reactions others bring up within us....but we need to be open to accepting there may be something we need to change, and only we as individuals can do that for ourselves.

I say again there are many different abilities and attributes represented on this forum.... The Ground Crew needs many different abilities and attributes to suuccessfully complete the job ahead. Let's not lose sight of our purpose.

Angel of the Mists

Right on! Great attitude!

[Myra]

Originally Posted by sfth13

From the link you posted is states $5 per month or a dicount at $30 per year. If all members pay the $30 and there is supposed to be 3314 members, thats $99,420 per year. I have never run a forum but I didn't know it cost this much to run amd maintain.

Wow. What if a person can't even afford the $5 or the $30? I'm sure it happens a lot more often these days than anyone can imagine. Great. Oh well.

[sfth13]

Originally Posted by Myra

Wow. What if a person can't even afford the $5 or the $30? I'm sure it happens a lot more often these days than anyone can imagine. Great. Oh well.

It has nothing to do with the $5. I have it and plan on paying it. I was just saying that I never ran a forum and wasn't aware of the cost involved in running and maintaining a forum. some people here just look for the negative

[Myra]

Originally Posted by sfth13

It has nothing to do with the $5. I have it and plan on paying it. I was just saying that I never ran a forum and wasn't aware of the cost involved in running and maintaining a forum. some people here just look for the negative

Don't worry, my post wasn't meant to direct anything at you personally. I was just speaking for myself because I don't have it (the money)

[Jacqui D]

Well i will continue to stay with the site whether subscription or not.
Although we have lost some whistleblowers we can still pop over to the camelot site for any new interviews etc.
I guess it would have been to good to be true to beable to talk to these guys on a daily basis, come on did you really think it would have worked, the Henry Deacon situation just shows that i think was inevitable anyway.
Wecan still discuss certain issues and these times are just in there beginnings, i feel there is so much more to come.

[eurosceptic]

bawrin!!

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

its not the money that bothers me. its the class system that will be set up once the subscription starts. KEEP THE WHOLE SITE OPEN TO EVERYONE.

[Love is the way]

Where to start?

Most importatly for me here is the argument of the cost of having a forum like this......We do not pay for just keeping the forum maintained , we ( the majority of us i dare assume) also want them to do interviews.
And how do u maintain a forum and travel the globe for just above 10$ a month? Just cos Bill and Kerry have good connections doesn`t mean they have access to stargates
I do sort of like the idea of keeping it free and open to everyone , and we pay what we wish to pay. If there is enough truely englightened people here it could work , and maybe be even more financially beneficial. But my gut feeling tells me that`s easier said then done.

It`s is not relevant at all , but since the moderator can`t help herself i jump in also
I never found Arcora`s posts in any way rude , i might be over the top easy going but in this case i feel i`m not. The post he refers to is deleted and even though im sure there is a lot of brilliant minds here , i doubt too many have photographic memory of every post and in that case no harm is done.
I wouldn`t wanna play chess with HD , so never feel too sure about any "proof" regarding who he is. I`m confident Arcora genuinly feels he got it , but i`m equally confident he did`t.


I Love this part :

"I came here to find the answer to one succinct question. I did not get a direct answer - but I did find some clues to continue in my quest. I also discovered two more questions that I need answered. Thank you all for that."

This is the main reason why i`m here too , and this is why i urge u and other doubters to stay on...... There WILL be more clues and questions for those who hang around.....and frankly they might be priceless.....
Just like everything else in life , this site is not perfect and it never will be. But if it gives u something of value and if there is a tiny chance you might get some englightment here.... Then STAY.

I miss the camelot part also , but totally agree and understand it`s closed for a while.... It`s a crazy amount of threads compared to moderators and that a good enough reason for me...... Hopefully it will be back soon.

According to Dan Burisch`s timeline 1 variant 83 the camelot part will be back up on the 4th of October!!!!


I`m a little undecied on this yet , but also feel there might be abit too much "Love and light" .... For me , the true Love and light is between the lines anyway.

[Theresa]

Zeus's butthole?? Priceless...

[Racsouran]

Carol, acora, flame yourselves in private. :P

[sfth13]

Originally Posted by Myra

Don't worry, my post wasn't meant to direct anything at you personally. I was just speaking for myself because I don't have it (the money)

I was just trying to explain my original quote that I think may have been taken the wrong way. I hope not

[Myra]

Originally Posted by sfth13

I was just trying to explain my original quote that I think may have been taken the wrong way. I hope not

No it's okay I didn't take you wrong, no worries!

[Tamarie]

How about a monthly donation of your choice, but AT LEAST $2.00 or more, or an annual donation of at least $15.00 or more? I can certainly afford .50c a week... Others may be able to afford double that, or triple, or more, and I'm sure it would feel great being able to choose the donation/subscription amount that feels right to you.

I must admit that I was unsure about whether I would subscribe, given the option, and until I reached the end here at Page 4, I was still uncertain, however, putting a monetary value of less than a dollar a week towards information that I read and look forward to reading on a daily basis (I'm referring really to the Project Camelot site) seems reasonably fair to me.

Whilst I might not agree with some opinons here at Avalon, nor on some points such the one Bill made about Miriam's interview being of utmost importance, I do respect and appreciate Bill and Kerry dedicating their time for US. Over 3,000 of us wouldn't be here today debating this point if it wasn't for them. Not to mention the number (over 2 million, wasn't it?) of unique visitors that Camelot has seen to date.

I do also patiently wait for more input from Bill and Kerry regarding the huge number of opposing views on Miriam's interview, and perhaps further discussion on topics (as they appear) such as this one that seemed to grow quickly and needs settling, but it's more important to me that they spend their time wisely.

And perhaps my .50c a week might help them to do that.

[Tamarie]

On another note, I would like to make a suggestion going forward that the Moderators not argue or disagree with another members comments in full view of everyone else. Please save us all from embarrassment and use the PM function next time...

Moderators should be trustworthy, un-sided 'members of authority', who speak on behalf of Bill and Kerry, and whose role should be to silently moderate, yet still participate in the forum by providing members with information and links of relevance where available.

I've seen it done like this successfully in other forums and I'm sure it can be pulled off here as well.

Thanks for taking this into consideration.

I have and can run a forum for $12.95 a month from Yahoo. It's a great deal. It's a whole lot less than $99,000.00 a year.

But there are many free forums out there that you can go to.

Peace.

Originally Posted by Colin L Falcon

***Listen Up Guys***

As far as I'm aware the forum will not be going subscription only on 1st October!

I have no idea where this came from, but will check with Bill as soon as he is available

Thanks for the info Colin. Always a Cool Head!

Because if it does go to Subscription Only and the Camelot Section stays like it is now then I will not stick around either.

I am not totally sold on everything crashing like St Clair states.

EDIT: Plus, Mrs Dood just told me how much we need a ROOF. Yes, an ACTUAL Roof over our heads and I am out of work. (Damn it)
That alone is going to cost at least $5K. (Did I say DAMN IT? hehe)

Also if I may be so bold...This forum needs a bit more HUMOR! Too much Gloom & Doom.
Life is meant to Effin ENJOY for Crying Out Loud.